This is the exact kind of video I needed YEARS ago. Great to see someone finally put it out there, albeit after I've already painfully figured out a lot of this on my own haha. I still pulled some great tips from this vid though, great stuff man.
Thank you so much for your amazing work. I must say I've been wanting to bring multitracks in Ableton to our small local church but I was scared to go into something new. Your explanation into details have been helping me alot in understanding and also in making the right decision to dive into it. Can say other words than thank you and God bless for sharing your knowledge.
Great video, Will! Really enjoying these and learning a lot. I watched this whole series and a bunch of other vids just today. Lol. I'm cramming! I actually emailed you earlier about getting the template for live 10. In the meantime I created my own with some of the elements you mentioned and it's working ok. Thanks again for all the info! You've been a massive help!
I'm new to Ableton and found this video while searching for best ways to implement Ableton for live performances. Very great content and presentation! A little overwhelming I must admit as I need to watch the other videos and continue learning the software to get more up to speed. I have what may be a beginner question based on my use case, and figured I would take a shot and pose it here in the comments. You mention configuring arrangement view based on live sets. I am a solo performer that is looking to use Ableton for backing tracks while I play other instruments and sing. My approach will be linear as there are clear parts and really no need to repeat sections. An example is I may want to play acoustic and sing on a song and have drums, electric, keyboards, backing vocals pre-recorded to launch and then another song maybe play keys via the midi controller (Novation Launchkey MK3) while singing and have guitar, drums, bass pre-recorded. My sets vary greatly based on the audience as I do covers in bars/restaurants, so I normally have my entire set list avail out of the gate in Forscore to choose from so if it's slow and a lot of people are eating I'll start more mellow, if people are already into the night or large party I'll get quicker into my upbeat selections. Given this use case, is arrangement view still the best option and how would you recommend dividing projects given my sets are put together on the fly?
Since you’re running tracks I would 100% use arrangement view. But don’t be afraid to repeat and have flexibility, just because it’s linear it doesn’t mean you’re locked in.
@@fromstudiotostage Got it, thank you for the reply! Given my live sets are dynamic in nature, do you have a recommendation for the best way to organize this? I believe you mentioned having too many in a single live set file could negatively impact machine performance. I'assuming having a live set of 50-60 songs would not be stable depending on the computer, but if the cpu is able to handle it, is it feasible to work with that many markers? Thank you again for taking the time to reply and apologies if these questions are premature based on my level of knowledge of Ableton at this time.
Your content has been to helpful in getting me started with using Ableton for backing tracks. Great stuff. I have to say, you are giving away too much for free. This kind of content genuinely should be behind a paywall. Top notch.
Hey thanks so much for this video. My next question is setting up a headphone mix for the band. Obviously, we don't want the click guide going to the main out. Sorry, I'm sure this is pretty obvious stuff still new to Ableton.
I think one key thing you are missing is the vocal cue of the song name for every song. Sometimes the wrong song can be cued, so the person cueing the track has time to kill it. Also maybe a band member gets lost and is unsure of the next song.
I love this video. Showing how to perform in Ableton. I will def check out these other videos you mention about master set. I am truly shocked (and annoyed) at how few videos are on youtube about people using and explaining ableton live for LIVE. haha. such irony. I bought Ableton for performance. Yet, it seems the vast majority of Ableton users who make UA-cam videos all ramble on about how to use ableton live as a traditional DAW. Well, I got news for you, arguably Ableton aint the strongest kid on the block for traditional DAW composing. Its literally made for performance, yet so many UA-camr's do not talk in this context. Thanks for this video, and the other you mention on your channel about performance. I will check them out
Surprisingly- the majority of Ableton users use it to produce music and create music. That shocked me because the majority of my usage has always been for live use.
Thanks for the info, but I did encounter a problem. I made a template as per your previous videos and them imported into this set. However none of my Send settings came over. What am I doing wrong?
Hi Will, thank you for your work! It's helping me a lot in learning ableton. A question about your 3-steps framework: with your method, if I have 25 songs to put in the live set and each song could have 10/15 stems, I will need from 250 to 375 tracks....Isn't it bad for computer performances or system stability?
Very good explanation, thank you! I’ll use it for our band live set. We have enough time signature and tempo changes on the go. Especially I like several your tech, like stop clip, section making in clips, overall idea NOT to use session view as working area on stage, as well as your method of importing sets to final live set. We use behringer XR18 as our summing device. So I have a separate track with all XR automation. That’s why we don’t need separate each song to different return channels. I don’t use in live sets returns ch at all. We have external devices like outboard audio interfaces with iPad software simulation for guitar and bass. As well as guitar sim and MIDI JAM with soft synths inside Ableton. Everything has their own separate automation track. As well all drums come to mix from EZdrummer live drumming via midi from Roland V-set. Main advantage is absence of sound operator person and consistency of the sound picture from stage to stage. Let it be club, fest or rehearsal at home. I use cal mic and “tune” venue before show making EQ curve in XR18. Because we had good enough final mix at home, we have same sound on public side on live show. We keep calmly stage environment, coz in ear monitoring hardwired for absolute minimum delay. Just LR stereo cable to PA. Any PA).
Great video! Didn't see the use of key mapping location markers until you started dragging each song in and using those markers to quickly cut and paste tracks everywhere. One thing I'm super intrigued about now is the possibility to "train" Ableton to recall locators after transferring the song into the set, that's one thing even Clyphx cannot do, so I'm very curious how you do it.
Hello thx for all your videos, have you shoot video which talk of the routing and setting in ableton set live with playback and instrument live? ( monitoring managenent with a mixer of xr18 or 32 for example, it will be very interesting )
This was incredibly informing, you wouldn't happen to have any templates for Live 10? Still running this bad boy into the ground before I upgrade lol, Cheers
Thank you for this great video! If you put for instance 5 songs like that and they each have their own sets of effects and plugins, wouldn't it be very high with cpu consumption ? Or do you automate their activation as the set goes further in time ? Thank you !
hi. Great video. I learned a lot. I am attempting to downsize my home studio to a street busking smaller rig with a controller, a synth, a mic, a mixer and a laptop. I think i need speakers and power. Anything else would you suggest?
@@fromstudiotostage someone mentioned to me that having a ground cover like tarp or colorful rug will not only draw attention to you but also act as a sort of subtle unconscious barrier that tells people stay off, giving you room to breathe and be safe at the same time.
Quick question, what’s the purpose of cutting Click, Tempo, Guide, Markers & Original Track and pasting it at the top? 8:23 I missed the explanation later on in the video.
Amazing! Just a few questions If you are putting your signature arrangement in the song template why do you need to re-do it in the set template? Does tempo changes from the song template paste to the set template - and if you need to move the song a few bars does it move the tempo (automation) with it? Can you paste the song to the same track as the previous song? So that you dont have them stepping down and taking up more tracks? Hope these questions make sense!
Your channel scrolled by today. Very informative. I live loop improv piano. Every performance is slightly different, so prearranging is not part of my setup. A couple of questions; 1. Can I record loops on the fly using the template? I'm sure I would have to create song setups somehow. Thanks for your insights.
Hi Will, with this work method, what if I have,for example, 30 songs in a set and I need to turn of, example, bass? Do I need to get intorno each song group, search for the bass stem and mute it...any solution to this? Thank you!
I just followed all of this video multiple times, and I can’t get everything to be dragged and dropped correctly. All my ProPresenter cues and markers become all wack and it makes it harder to realign everything. It’s not a drag and drop for me. How can I fix this?
Hi Will - your set of videos on using Live for Backing Track is really fantastic. I have been struggling trying to do this on my own for some time and finally found your videos. Thanks a lot for the great work. Question: I'm nervous of having a computer crash during a live show and I have to ask why you haven't considered using a hardware/recorder/mixer for this job? Something like the Zoom Live 12/20 or the Tascam 12/16/24 units? Ableton is such an awesome DAW with all its instruments and effects but its set up and control requires a lot of time and equipment. I have everything I need to use Ableton8, SLMk II controller, X-Touch etc. but it's a lot of "stuff" to set up and connect when a multtitrack recorder can basically do the same job. Thanks
Do I need to set up 2 Click tracks in my template (one for 4/4 and one for 3/4) if I prefer a different balance of 4ths and 8ths on 3/4 and 4/4 times while using foundation? Putting them all on the same click track seems to make me use the same balance on every song which doesn't work when switching from 4 to 3 it sounds weird
Hey Will. A quick question. I have made my own template for running backing tracks inspired by your awsome work. One thing i can't seem to get to work are my returntracks. I've created and saved them in my template, but they don't show up when i drag the template into a new live set. Thanks from Denmark
Wondering if this following set-up below is doable? Currently I play live shows in Session View. I have some pre-programmed drums, bass, etc. but I play and loop record live guitar parts, as well as doing some live piano and of course, live vocal. I like the layout you've set-up above (I've done it before in Apple's Mainstage, though it wasn't stable enough) but I'm wondering if there is a way to still live loop audio tracks while using the above layout you've shown? I have a Novation XL controller which means I can mute, solo, etc. channels live. Thanks :)
Ummm....I haven't been able to upgrade from 10 Suite. Do you have any of your templates for 10? This video is wonderful and exactly what I've been looking for. Heading to your site to peruse some more training & info! Thank you!
What about song structure positional parameter shortcuts for working in session mode only and scene launch dictating verse chorus shortcut tagging working diagonally on the grid with 64 midi only channel strips for live looping from nothing other than form of song and not linearly? Ableton Doesn’t seem to be designed that way. More of an excel spreadsheet where everyone is finishing their tracks as bounced audio only stems with linear motion only on 8 channel strips.
Thanks Will this is great. I understand the benefit of not having to change the master tempo manually with automation, but if I'm using Chain Selectors with Samples tether to my SPDS via midi then I still need to do automation on a set level as opposed to in each song template? Is that correct. Thank you
how do you get the tempo/bpm etc. info for each individual song to automatically copy over to the template? is that something you need to set up in the original song file and if so, how do you do that? (new to ableton live here) thanks!
Thanks you so much Will for all your dope tuto! I just have a question. Is it ok to process like in this video if I want use push 2 and work on the Session mode on live???
I like so much your way to organice the stems and songs, but I have a little question, how do you process the mix of the songs in the projet for the live performance, with all that channels? I mean, when I used stems I always put a compressor for the bass with a sidechain from the kick, my question is, do you have to make a really great mix of the songs before you export the stems really? Thank you
Hey, if I am running playback for live sets as a drummer. is Ableton the best and only option? can I use something like MainStage considering I am super familiar with logic. or is Ableton much much better and reliable for live playback? someone help lol thank you
Ableton by far is the industry standard for playback, so I would encourage you to go that way. There's other software that can playback audio, but Live is the only one that really lets you "perform" with pre-recorded audio.
I’m having issues with the stems properly lining up when I drag them into the set and drag the song into place. I have a lot of parts in some stems “deactivated” for when someone in the band is covering that part. Those seem to never line up. Sometimes the entire song is out of place. Do I need to consolidate all the stems that I have part deactivated? Anyone else have an issue like this?
After rewatching a lot of videos lol I found the problem to be that my stems were not warped properly. Hope this helps anyone in the future who has this problem!
Hey your videos are helping me and my church out a lot! Is there a way to have the click continue after a song is done without starting the next song? In case we want to continue playing before moving into the next song. Thanks again!
Hey, thanks so far, it helped a lot. I have the situation that my band sometimes is not complete on stage. For instance my rhythmguitar is missing on one day. Usually I would mute him in the stems but since our set has 25+ Songs this is hard. Would you find the solution in routing? All the rhythmguitar on the same Output so you can simply mute it and all the bass, leadguitar etc on another output? Sorry if you mentioned this in the video, it was a lot of information and I don't recall it comming up.
I always suggest just leaving the tracks in your set and muting if you don't need it. That way it's always there and if you need it again you can un-mute.
Amazing content. Thanks a Lot. you make solid arguments to use session view for a live performance But how would you use it when performing with a midi controller like apc40 that come with 8 channels, you would lose the visuals on the controller.
If I was performing in a live looping setup I would consider a grid based controller and session view. For arrangement view, Grid Based controllers aren’t a great fit, and I prefer a simpler control setup using 4 buttons only.
Excellent 3 part mini series, really helpful thanks. Can I ask when playing in a live situation with say 8 separate outputs going to the sound guy how would you normally route each output, for example, would it be 2 mono outs for drums and bass then 3 stereo outs for pads, noises etc.
Thanks for watching Dave! I need to do a follow up video on how I typically route. It all depends on the content. but I try to separate content tonally based on what would benefit the sound engineer the most. I'll include this in a future video-thanks for the idea!
Is there a way to preset the loop option for an 8 bar percussion stem, and then do the same for the next three songs Im using loops as my tracks and I want to be able to transition to the next song without having to select what I want to loop in between songs? Can I preset what I want to be looped in each song so I don’t have to do that every time the song changes?
@@fromstudiotostage Let’s say I’m finishing the first song, and I want to start the next loop that’s at a different tempo and time signature. If I hit “2” for song #2, how will it know to loop that second percussive loop as well? Can I preset the loop feature for all three songs, or do I have to select the loop every time I transition a song if I choose to run tracks this way.
your using arrangement view and create a midi track to send midi cues to pro presenter, how do you transfer that midi cue track to session view without it creating a scene for every cue?
If you consolidate you can move the clip to session. If you’re doing automation like this though, I would HIGHLY recommend you use arrangement view though
Great video but the problem with this method is that it won't import the tempo track in the midi clic!!! I tested it and in the song file the tempo has many changes, but when I drag the song set in the live set for the show, the tempo automation does not follow!! Imagine having to rebuild the tempo lines of 15 song, when most of them have many tempo change... It sounded like an amazing technic, but now I dont know how to go about. Dont know if I am just gonna waste my time and should just drag and drop every stems and import the tempo track in a full live set instead so at least I have my tempo tracks? Then I would lose time over routing. Or do this technic and reimport every clic track with the tempo because Ableton Live isn't capable to import the tempo from it's 'own' song files... Disturbing when you're relying on a software that's supposed to be pro, I would have thought they know what the hell they're doing. Another disturbing fact is, when you drag and drop your audio files, it does not copy them, it 'takes' them from the original location. I have never seen anything like that!! Logic copies them leaving intact the original files in their location. We spend so many hours to export stems so they are just right, when then Ableton delete them from their original location, as if we then have no more back up. I did have a back up luckily, but this is unthinkable. Thanks for your input....
You forgot to set tempo track to lead. It is not supposed to follow. It is supposed to lead. I have done this method and it absolutely works. This guy talks fast but make sure you do every step.
i'm that angry guy in my mom's basement and I way prefer session view. LOL just kidding about the angry and the basement BUT I really do prefer session view and have found it much simpler to create a template and drag songs into that. I've been doing this for probably 20 yrs now and I have tremendous flexibility and ease of use in Session view. Just my 2 cents. Appreciate your videos Will!
@@fromstudiotostage OK so after using Session view for 20 yrs I decided to take the plunge and follow your workflow for building a setlist and using Arrangement view. I have to say that both views are not without their issues. In my opinion, Session view is WAY easier on the eyes in terms of simplicity. Arrangement view can look very overwhelming, especially if you add locators for all the sections of all the songs. Copying and pasting sections is WAY easier in Session View. With all that said, I think it's going to be better long term for us to use Arrangement view in terms of flexibility. Thank you Will for pushing me to get out of my comfort zone in trying (and now liking!) this new approach!
Wouldn't buildinng tracks this way quickly max out abletons max tracks count for projects? 256 total so lets say you had a set of 25 songs. but your average tune had 12 stems. you could only get 21 songs in. That make sense?? Am I thinking of this correctly?
Ableton Live 11, like Live 12, does not have a fixed maximum track count in either Arrangement View or Session View. The number of tracks you can use is determined by the performance capabilities of your computer. As you add more tracks, effects, and instruments, the load on your CPU and RAM increases. With sufficient computing power, you can create a large number of tracks, but performance may degrade if your system's resources are exceeded.
Every time I try to download the free template the only option I'm given is to buy the basic template. Am I doing something wrong or is the free template only available with a purchase?
Hi Randy, sorry you’re having issues. If you send support@fromstudiotostage.com an email we can help figure out what issue you’re having and make sure you can download the template.
This is exactly the video that I’ve been searching for on UA-cam for like two years now. Somebody finally did it.
Glad you found the content! Thanks for watching!
This is the exact kind of video I needed YEARS ago. Great to see someone finally put it out there, albeit after I've already painfully figured out a lot of this on my own haha. I still pulled some great tips from this vid though, great stuff man.
Thank you saved me a lot of time trying to browse videos for an actual working one
Glad I could help
It really worked for me after I look and try some tutorials, yours is the one that worked. Owe you a lot.
Thanks for watching!
Say man,. The awesomeness is real here. I am a newer Ableton guy. This really helps Thank you!!
so glad it helped! thanks for watching
i really apreciate your help with dowloanding this software
Thank you so much for your amazing work. I must say I've been wanting to bring multitracks in Ableton to our small local church but I was scared to go into something new. Your explanation into details have been helping me alot in understanding and also in making the right decision to dive into it. Can say other words than thank you and God bless for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, Will! Really enjoying these and learning a lot. I watched this whole series and a bunch of other vids just today. Lol. I'm cramming! I actually emailed you earlier about getting the template for live 10. In the meantime I created my own with some of the elements you mentioned and it's working ok. Thanks again for all the info! You've been a massive help!
Thanks for watching! Happy to help!
I'm new to Ableton and found this video while searching for best ways to implement Ableton for live performances. Very great content and presentation! A little overwhelming I must admit as I need to watch the other videos and continue learning the software to get more up to speed.
I have what may be a beginner question based on my use case, and figured I would take a shot and pose it here in the comments. You mention configuring arrangement view based on live sets. I am a solo performer that is looking to use Ableton for backing tracks while I play other instruments and sing. My approach will be linear as there are clear parts and really no need to repeat sections. An example is I may want to play acoustic and sing on a song and have drums, electric, keyboards, backing vocals pre-recorded to launch and then another song maybe play keys via the midi controller (Novation Launchkey MK3) while singing and have guitar, drums, bass pre-recorded. My sets vary greatly based on the audience as I do covers in bars/restaurants, so I normally have my entire set list avail out of the gate in Forscore to choose from so if it's slow and a lot of people are eating I'll start more mellow, if people are already into the night or large party I'll get quicker into my upbeat selections.
Given this use case, is arrangement view still the best option and how would you recommend dividing projects given my sets are put together on the fly?
Since you’re running tracks I would 100% use arrangement view. But don’t be afraid to repeat and have flexibility, just because it’s linear it doesn’t mean you’re locked in.
@@fromstudiotostage Got it, thank you for the reply! Given my live sets are dynamic in nature, do you have a recommendation for the best way to organize this? I believe you mentioned having too many in a single live set file could negatively impact machine performance. I'assuming having a live set of 50-60 songs would not be stable depending on the computer, but if the cpu is able to handle it, is it feasible to work with that many markers? Thank you again for taking the time to reply and apologies if these questions are premature based on my level of knowledge of Ableton at this time.
Your content has been to helpful in getting me started with using Ableton for backing tracks. Great stuff. I have to say, you are giving away too much for free. This kind of content genuinely should be behind a paywall. Top notch.
thank you so much! Thanks for watching!
Hey thanks so much for this video. My next question is setting up a headphone mix for the band. Obviously, we don't want the click guide going to the main out. Sorry, I'm sure this is pretty obvious stuff still new to Ableton.
check out my sending audio to your soundboard video for a basic intro
I think one key thing you are missing is the vocal cue of the song name for every song. Sometimes the wrong song can be cued, so the person cueing the track has time to kill it. Also maybe a band member gets lost and is unsure of the next song.
that's a great addition if you need it. Not a necessary but a great idea. I cover that in my guide cue video content
Thank you Will!!! great video
I love this video. Showing how to perform in Ableton. I will def check out these other videos you mention about master set.
I am truly shocked (and annoyed) at how few videos are on youtube about people using and explaining ableton live for LIVE. haha. such irony. I bought Ableton for performance. Yet, it seems the vast majority of Ableton users who make UA-cam videos all ramble on about how to use ableton live as a traditional DAW. Well, I got news for you, arguably Ableton aint the strongest kid on the block for traditional DAW composing. Its literally made for performance, yet so many UA-camr's do not talk in this context.
Thanks for this video, and the other you mention on your channel about performance. I will check them out
Surprisingly- the majority of Ableton users use it to produce music and create music. That shocked me because the majority of my usage has always been for live use.
Thanks for the info, but I did encounter a problem. I made a template as per your previous videos and them imported into this set. However none of my Send settings came over. What am I doing wrong?
hey, did you find an answer to that?
Really helpful! You speak and teach very clearly. Thank you :)
Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words :)
Woah, great video mate!
Hi Will, thank you for your work! It's helping me a lot in learning ableton. A question about your 3-steps framework: with your method, if I have 25 songs to put in the live set and each song could have 10/15 stems, I will need from 250 to 375 tracks....Isn't it bad for computer performances or system stability?
BROOO thankyou so much, this really helped and the tutorial was really easy to use as well :)
Thanks for watching! Glad it helped!
awesome video. is there a way to create live loops with this set up though?
Very good explanation, thank you! I’ll use it for our band live set. We have enough time signature and tempo changes on the go. Especially I like several your tech, like stop clip, section making in clips, overall idea NOT to use session view as working area on stage, as well as your method of importing sets to final live set. We use behringer XR18 as our summing device. So I have a separate track with all XR automation. That’s why we don’t need separate each song to different return channels. I don’t use in live sets returns ch at all. We have external devices like outboard audio interfaces with iPad software simulation for guitar and bass. As well as guitar sim and MIDI JAM with soft synths inside Ableton. Everything has their own separate automation track. As well all drums come to mix from EZdrummer live drumming via midi from Roland V-set.
Main advantage is absence of sound operator person and consistency of the sound picture from stage to stage. Let it be club, fest or rehearsal at home. I use cal mic and “tune” venue before show making EQ curve in XR18. Because we had good enough final mix at home, we have same sound on public side on live show. We keep calmly stage environment, coz in ear monitoring hardwired for absolute minimum delay.
Just LR stereo cable to PA. Any PA).
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video!
Wow! it's Amazing I did it well ! Perfect work !
It worked perfectly!!! Thank you so much
Great to hear!
You’re amazing Man! Thanks for all these videos
Thanks so much! And thanks for watching!
Great video! Didn't see the use of key mapping location markers until you started dragging each song in and using those markers to quickly cut and paste tracks everywhere. One thing I'm super intrigued about now is the possibility to "train" Ableton to recall locators after transferring the song into the set, that's one thing even Clyphx cannot do, so I'm very curious how you do it.
Glad it was helpful! That scenario, plus being able to quickly navigate your set live (with or without a MIDI controller) is incredibly helpful
Loved it. Thanks A LOT for sharing!
Hello thx for all your videos, have you shoot video which talk of the routing and setting in ableton set live with playback and instrument live? ( monitoring managenent with a mixer of xr18 or 32 for example, it will be very interesting )
This was incredibly informing, you wouldn't happen to have any templates for Live 10? Still running this bad boy into the ground before I upgrade lol, Cheers
Very soon! Working on a Live 10 update now
@@fromstudiotostage Awesome! thanks for the reply
Thank you for this great video!
If you put for instance 5 songs like that and they each have their own sets of effects and plugins, wouldn't it be very high with cpu consumption ?
Or do you automate their activation as the set goes further in time ?
Thank you !
Liked, subscribed - awesome stuff!
Welcome aboard!
any videos on digital performer for live playback?
hi. Great video. I learned a lot. I am attempting to downsize my home studio to a street busking smaller rig with a controller, a synth, a mic, a mixer and a laptop. I think i need speakers and power. Anything else would you suggest?
Glad it was helpful! Sounds like a great start!
@@fromstudiotostage someone mentioned to me that having a ground cover like tarp or colorful rug will not only draw attention to you but also act as a sort of subtle unconscious barrier that tells people stay off, giving you room to breathe and be safe at the same time.
good work king, love you
Quick question, what’s the purpose of cutting Click, Tempo, Guide, Markers & Original Track and pasting it at the top?
8:23
I missed the explanation later on in the video.
Hey! Thanks so much for this video!
When I do this my lights don't sync up to the tracks? Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Is there anyway to include the locators I have in my song files into my live set?
It worked! Tank you sir.
Amazing! Just a few questions
If you are putting your signature arrangement in the song template why do you need to re-do it in the set template?
Does tempo changes from the song template paste to the set template - and if you need to move the song a few bars does it move the tempo (automation) with it?
Can you paste the song to the same track as the previous song? So that you dont have them stepping down and taking up more tracks?
Hope these questions make sense!
Your channel scrolled by today. Very informative. I live loop improv piano. Every performance is slightly different, so prearranging is not part of my setup. A couple of questions;
1. Can I record loops on the fly using the template?
I'm sure I would have to create song setups somehow.
Thanks for your insights.
Hi Will, with this work method, what if I have,for example, 30 songs in a set and I need to turn of, example, bass? Do I need to get intorno each song group, search for the bass stem and mute it...any solution to this? Thank you!
Your content is incredible, I've been watching your videos and listening to your podcast! Thank you for doing this, I am learning so much!
Thanks for the kind words and glad the content has helped!
I just followed all of this video multiple times, and I can’t get everything to be dragged and dropped correctly. All my ProPresenter cues and markers become all wack and it makes it harder to realign everything. It’s not a drag and drop for me. How can I fix this?
Hi Will - your set of videos on using Live for Backing Track is really fantastic. I have been struggling trying to do this on my own for some time and finally found your videos. Thanks a lot for the great work. Question: I'm nervous of having a computer crash during a live show and I have to ask why you haven't considered using a hardware/recorder/mixer for this job?
Something like the Zoom Live 12/20 or the Tascam 12/16/24 units? Ableton is such an awesome DAW with all its instruments and effects but its set up and control requires a lot of time and equipment. I have everything I need to use Ableton8, SLMk II controller, X-Touch etc. but it's a lot of "stuff" to set up and connect when a multtitrack recorder can basically do the same job. Thanks
Do I need to set up 2 Click tracks in my template (one for 4/4 and one for 3/4) if I prefer a different balance of 4ths and 8ths on 3/4 and 4/4 times while using foundation? Putting them all on the same click track seems to make me use the same balance on every song which doesn't work when switching from 4 to 3 it sounds weird
Excellent video! I am using EboSuite Live as part of my set up. Have you built a Live Set with Video as well as audio?
Say if you had 20 songs, I imagine you would use many many tracks. Would this not cripple the CPU??
Great videos by the way
What’s the name of that small midi controller used for navigating? Having trouble finding it online
Great setup! It could take months to figure all this out from scratch.
I'm on 18 years plus and still tweaking and improving every year :)
I have your temp,ate but when I load it, I don’t see the 4 output sections on the right. Can you. Help?
do you think intro has to less tracks? or why you reccomened standard as minimum?
How would you loop certain section ? Using IAC driver to engage LOOP but how twould you do it to move i.e. slect the bracket or section to loop ?
I don’t use the loop brace on stage , I just use the IAC driver to create loops
@@fromstudiotostage thanks for your answer. Power to the IAC !!!
thank you!!! video liked and u got a well deserved sub from me!!!!
thank you so much for these videos !!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Hey Will.
A quick question.
I have made my own template for running backing tracks inspired by your awsome work.
One thing i can't seem to get to work are my returntracks. I've created and saved them in my template, but they don't show up when i drag the template into a new live set.
Thanks from Denmark
you have to create return tracks the first time you format your song
Wondering if this following set-up below is doable?
Currently I play live shows in Session View. I have some pre-programmed drums, bass, etc. but I play and loop record live guitar parts, as well as doing some live piano and of course, live vocal.
I like the layout you've set-up above (I've done it before in Apple's Mainstage, though it wasn't stable enough) but I'm wondering if there is a way to still live loop audio tracks while using the above layout you've shown?
I have a Novation XL controller which means I can mute, solo, etc. channels live.
Thanks :)
I do multiple loops in arrangement view often. Either pre-planned or in the moment. Check out the channel for videos on how I set that up!
What is the transport control hardware that you use
Ummm....I haven't been able to upgrade from 10 Suite. Do you have any of your templates for 10? This video is wonderful and exactly what I've been looking for. Heading to your site to peruse some more training & info!
Thank you!
The free template is only for 11 at the moment, but I'm working on a template for 10!
Thanks a lot!!!! too many time savings
Are you talking about putting some Karaoke track sets in one project? Can we put some Ableton sets with triggers in one project?
Yes
What about song structure positional parameter shortcuts for working in session mode only and scene launch dictating verse chorus shortcut tagging working diagonally on the grid with 64 midi only channel strips for live looping from nothing other than form of song and not linearly? Ableton Doesn’t seem to be designed that way. More of an excel spreadsheet where everyone is finishing their tracks as bounced audio only stems with linear motion only on 8 channel strips.
Thanks Will this is great. I understand the benefit of not having to change the master tempo manually with automation, but if I'm using Chain Selectors with Samples tether to my SPDS via midi then I still need to do automation on a set level as opposed to in each song template? Is that correct. Thank you
it work on my pc thx bro vеry much
using this and never lagging
how do you get the tempo/bpm etc. info for each individual song to automatically copy over to the template? is that something you need to set up in the original song file and if so, how do you do that? (new to ableton live here) thanks!
great video - are you mainly bringing in .wav files only or midi and devices as well?
All audio files except for click and guide (occasionally)
You are best ;) Thank You !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks you so much Will for all your dope tuto! I just have a question. Is it ok to process like in this video if I want use push 2 and work on the Session mode on live???
I would do a live looping setup and have fun with clips if you’re using push and session. You’ll miss out on a lot running tracks in session
I like so much your way to organice the stems and songs, but I have a little question, how do you process the mix of the songs in the projet for the live performance, with all that channels? I mean, when I used stems I always put a compressor for the bass with a sidechain from the kick, my question is, do you have to make a really great mix of the songs before you export the stems really? Thank you
Hey, if I am running playback for live sets as a drummer. is Ableton the best and only option? can I use something like MainStage considering I am super familiar with logic. or is Ableton much much better and reliable for live playback? someone help lol thank you
Ableton by far is the industry standard for playback, so I would encourage you to go that way. There's other software that can playback audio, but Live is the only one that really lets you "perform" with pre-recorded audio.
Worked, thx
I’m having issues with the stems properly lining up when I drag them into the set and drag the song into place. I have a lot of parts in some stems “deactivated” for when someone in the band is covering that part. Those seem to never line up. Sometimes the entire song is out of place. Do I need to consolidate all the stems that I have part deactivated? Anyone else have an issue like this?
After rewatching a lot of videos lol I found the problem to be that my stems were not warped properly. Hope this helps anyone in the future who has this problem!
Hey your videos are helping me and my church out a lot! Is there a way to have the click continue after a song is done without starting the next song? In case we want to continue playing before moving into the next song. Thanks again!
Hey, thanks so far, it helped a lot. I have the situation that my band sometimes is not complete on stage. For instance my rhythmguitar is missing on one day. Usually I would mute him in the stems but since our set has 25+ Songs this is hard.
Would you find the solution in routing? All the rhythmguitar on the same Output so you can simply mute it and all the bass, leadguitar etc on another output?
Sorry if you mentioned this in the video, it was a lot of information and I don't recall it comming up.
I always suggest just leaving the tracks in your set and muting if you don't need it. That way it's always there and if you need it again you can un-mute.
do i get the tempo changes from the songs with? or do i need to redoo it in the setlist file?
Thanks man
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Awesome job and great video!!! I love this! Do you use Tempo Tracks in all your tracks?
Yes I do! Great question! When I format my songs, I always add a tempo track so I don't have to re-do the tempo when I build my set.
Again, thanks!
Thank you!
Olá, existe algum curso em português????
Amazing content. Thanks a Lot. you make solid arguments to use session view for a live performance But how would you use it when performing with a midi controller like apc40 that come with 8 channels, you would lose the visuals on the controller.
If I was performing in a live looping setup I would consider a grid based controller and session view. For arrangement view, Grid Based controllers aren’t a great fit, and I prefer a simpler control setup using 4 buttons only.
Excellent 3 part mini series, really helpful thanks. Can I ask when playing in a live situation with say 8 separate outputs going to the sound guy how would you normally route each output, for example, would it be 2 mono outs for drums and bass then 3 stereo outs for pads, noises etc.
Thanks for watching Dave! I need to do a follow up video on how I typically route. It all depends on the content. but I try to separate content tonally based on what would benefit the sound engineer the most. I'll include this in a future video-thanks for the idea!
Am i able to do a 4 or 5 song worship set with the lite version?
Literally just answered just as a typed this 😂
btw the tracks for everything loaded but not the actual markers.
Pleaaase help me to map this with template with my apc mini mk2!!!
Is there a way to preset the loop option for an 8 bar percussion stem, and then do the same for the next three songs
Im using loops as my tracks and I want to be able to transition to the next song without having to select what I want to loop in between songs?
Can I preset what I want to be looped in each song so I don’t have to do that every time the song changes?
Yes
@@fromstudiotostage Let’s say I’m finishing the first song, and I want to start the next loop that’s at a different tempo and time signature. If I hit “2” for song #2, how will it know to loop that second percussive loop as well?
Can I preset the loop feature for all three songs, or do I have to select the loop every time I transition a song if I choose to run tracks this way.
your using arrangement view and create a midi track to send midi cues to pro presenter, how do you transfer that midi cue track to session view without it creating a scene for every cue?
If you consolidate you can move the clip to session. If you’re doing automation like this though, I would HIGHLY recommend you use arrangement view though
I get the "404 page not found" when going to download the template?
These will be updated soon, for now:
pages.fromstudiotostage.com/template
Great video but the problem with this method is that it won't import the tempo track in the midi clic!!! I tested it and in the song file the tempo has many changes, but when I drag the song set in the live set for the show, the tempo automation does not follow!! Imagine having to rebuild the tempo lines of 15 song, when most of them have many tempo change... It sounded like an amazing technic, but now I dont know how to go about. Dont know if I am just gonna waste my time and should just drag and drop every stems and import the tempo track in a full live set instead so at least I have my tempo tracks? Then I would lose time over routing. Or do this technic and reimport every clic track with the tempo because Ableton Live isn't capable to import the tempo from it's 'own' song files... Disturbing when you're relying on a software that's supposed to be pro, I would have thought they know what the hell they're doing. Another disturbing fact is, when you drag and drop your audio files, it does not copy them, it 'takes' them from the original location. I have never seen anything like that!! Logic copies them leaving intact the original files in their location. We spend so many hours to export stems so they are just right, when then Ableton delete them from their original location, as if we then have no more back up. I did have a back up luckily, but this is unthinkable. Thanks for your input....
You forgot to set tempo track to lead. It is not supposed to follow. It is supposed to lead. I have done this method and it absolutely works. This guy talks fast but make sure you do every step.
Is there a template for Live 10 aswel?
i'm that angry guy in my mom's basement and I way prefer session view. LOL just kidding about the angry and the basement BUT I really do prefer session view and have found it much simpler to create a template and drag songs into that. I've been doing this for probably 20 yrs now and I have tremendous flexibility and ease of use in Session view. Just my 2 cents. Appreciate your videos Will!
Nah you’re definitely not the angry guy :) thanks for sharing!
@@fromstudiotostage OK so after using Session view for 20 yrs I decided to take the plunge and follow your workflow for building a setlist and using Arrangement view. I have to say that both views are not without their issues. In my opinion, Session view is WAY easier on the eyes in terms of simplicity. Arrangement view can look very overwhelming, especially if you add locators for all the sections of all the songs. Copying and pasting sections is WAY easier in Session View. With all that said, I think it's going to be better long term for us to use Arrangement view in terms of flexibility. Thank you Will for pushing me to get out of my comfort zone in trying (and now liking!) this new approach!
Wouldn't buildinng tracks this way quickly max out abletons max tracks count for projects? 256 total so lets say you had a set of 25 songs. but your average tune had 12 stems. you could only get 21 songs in. That make sense?? Am I thinking of this correctly?
Ableton Live 11, like Live 12, does not have a fixed maximum track count in either Arrangement View or Session View. The number of tracks you can use is determined by the performance capabilities of your computer. As you add more tracks, effects, and instruments, the load on your CPU and RAM increases. With sufficient computing power, you can create a large number of tracks, but performance may degrade if your system's resources are exceeded.
Every time I try to download the free template the only option I'm given is to buy the basic template. Am I doing something wrong or is the free template only available with a purchase?
Hi Paul-the free template gets emailed to you after you submit your info. Let me know if you don’t see it
What about live 10 standard? I have that one
Everything I show here can apply to 10 as well!
ty bruu
tried 3 times to download template, nothing...
Hi Randy, sorry you’re having issues. If you send support@fromstudiotostage.com an email we can help figure out what issue you’re having and make sure you can download the template.
22:23 This is the only appropriate time that I would advise ANYONE, by following this command, that it is okay and acceptable to "TAKE AN L". 😆😆😆
great video, but please cut off the excess strings from your guitar :p
NEVER!!! :) I love that it bugs people, I've always dug it.
For once, the software is actually really useful
What a confusion of a video, but thanks anyway
most of the video is totally redundant...