Sorry to spoil the fun, but mackan was forced to nerf the moab by 50% or so. It's just so powerful and hot that it's not possible to pop em. I doubt a dark champion could pop such a bloon
@@kittykat1587 Dang it! I guess there is simply no other way. I will need to learn IFM farming, and use Shinook for perma-stalling every round. That way I can afford a Legend of the Night, and suck up the MOAB using the portal.
@@CommentPositionInformerI regret to bring this info to you, but the round 40 moab is too thiccc to be sucked up by the LoTN portal. The only way to beat it is to perma-stall it with a map full of moab shoves, an icicle impale, and super glue. Even then… it’s so hard to beat that it’s rng.
theres a bug in apopalypse that practically makes you get infinite money just by going back into the menu before a round ends, so you can technically get infinite money on round 40 if you're patient enough though you can get flagged by doing this so i don't recommend trying it at all
probably useless, but you had the free upgrades on all your dart monkeys in the tack strat. never used them though. edit: same for the stalling one. didnt even place the free monkeys. perhaps a super monkey fan club instead of the glues would have helped. also would have loved to see a ninja strat.
i was gonna do the same thing LMFAOOOOO but it did get nerfed so i'm not sure it would make a difference at around ~93k (what i can do reasonably with ben)
this is an awesome concept. one of my favorite videos conceptually. the contents itself are also great, and its one of my favorites, but i cant necessarily say thats for any good reason (low frame of reference since i watched this differently to most videos)
Hi, Mackan. ^^ I belive that Marketplace does better with the midle cross-path (make it 023, instead of 203). Specially if you have the money to pay for it right away. Of course, if you have to build it up, it is better to use the top cross-path.
Here's my idea to add to the challenge: you can choose any round to start farming on (example: start round 60 and end on round 100) that way you have more strategizing on which rounds are the best to start farming based on the money you earn aswell as the money you need to spend on defending the bloons. also incase you plan to start at round 60 you cant farm before wave 60.
I think it would have been worth it to try a ninja strategy (like the tack strategy with glue storm). Just no Grandmaster obviously as a couple of bloonjitsus give a similar amount of damage for a lot less money. You still need primary mentoring for glue storm but with this strategy you wouldn't need to build camo detection (because of espionage+glue storm) and you will have needed the village for triple discounts anyway. Although it is probably still worse than full on stalls it would have been nice to see if it was any better than the tacks
on the subsequent rounds, you didn't get the free dart monkeys, which I know sounds like a joke but in the first round they got a ton of pops so it might have been worth giving yourself the money to buy them (especially since you had a primary expertise so you would have gotten the first two tiers for free on all of them)
I think the bloon crush would have benefited from overclock more than from expertise. The extra money could have gone to a liquefier to clean up cerams, or maybe the overclock would allow for bottom crosspath on the bloon crush which deals a lot more damage and maybe could clean up itself.
Not sure if it would have made a big difference, but you could save a bit of money by starting to build towers before you sell the monkeyopolis so they get the discount
@MackanRules Could you look into ultra lategame on bloonarius prime (past 100k round)? I'm curious how many prime numbers NK added into the code and if the game breaking round comes any sooner compared to other maps.
Waiting for the sequel using imf loans, at the very least you could just buy a lot at the end and get lent a bunch of money. Also I'd say it's worth giving a shot to flipping it around and using Psy to kill everything but the BADs, and using the 85k on BAD damage with something like a carpet of spikes? Maybe an impale for stalling for Psy?
6:40 I don't think this is really necessary because all farms tick once at the beginning of the round, meaning that you'll still get the same amount of ticks if you buy the upgrade 1 second later.
i think u can farm better than that, however even with the money u had, i believe ninja army should be the best. super buffed master bomber stuns and deletes ddts and also does dmg to bads, i think u can get to 200+ with that setup, if you want to try this again
can't you upgrade the free dart monkeys in range of the village for free? Idk if it would have changed anything but every little helps right? This vid was super cool tho, hope u do one for round 60 next!
Video idea: How much money can you make before popping the round 100 BAD? I honestly think it will be a great idea considering the amount of money you can make. Also, can you NOT make this challenge in Logs?
4:53 i don't get the reason? i thought you only go 203/4 in the beginning because you put down 200 farms to start with and upgrade them to 203 but if you have enough money/income, as you did, you just directly put down a 023 as they make more money per round
"Yea we're gonna leak some"
> fucking dies
Well he said 'uhhh we are gonna leak some here, yeah that's it' he never thought he would live 🤷♂🤷♂
Yes, *finally* I will be able to beat the Round 40 MOAB!
yes
Sorry to spoil the fun, but mackan was forced to nerf the moab by 50% or so. It's just so powerful and hot that it's not possible to pop em. I doubt a dark champion could pop such a bloon
@@kittykat1587
Dang it!
I guess there is simply no other way. I will need to learn IFM farming, and use Shinook for perma-stalling every round.
That way I can afford a Legend of the Night, and suck up the MOAB using the portal.
@@CommentPositionInformerI regret to bring this info to you, but the round 40 moab is too thiccc to be sucked up by the LoTN portal. The only way to beat it is to perma-stall it with a map full of moab shoves, an icicle impale, and super glue. Even then… it’s so hard to beat that it’s rng.
@@codenameloser8488
Bro, I'm cooked 😭
Next please do this on round 60 , to see how much 20 rounds of snowballing can do , I would love that
He should do it on medium and hard and see how much the extra rounds/different prices affect it
you can buy paragons at that time bro
But you would need to put it on medium difficulty for that so he still stops placing and upgrading towers in free play.
@@imadudewithissues well still, it would still be interesting how much further those 20 rounds of income can be optimised
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Player 3's worst nightmare:
He *is* player 3
@@Emporio_of_Light True
Or best dream
@@hatcher365best nightmare :D
For Me farmer is player 2
Rip free tier ones on the darts lol
ngl i was bout to say that, i may be wrong, but isn't it tier 1 and 2 upgrades?
@@chickenguy8764No tier two upgrade free with primary expertise village
Damn I didn’t think 140 would be possible.166 is insane!
I mean, 20k with mk can get you to 120+ soo that's not really surprising
@@PonFromRussia ...and 40k with mk can get you to 138.
12:30 I wish I lasted longer is crazyy😂😂
12:25
theres a bug in apopalypse that practically makes you get infinite money just by going back into the menu before a round ends, so you can technically get infinite money on round 40 if you're patient enough
though you can get flagged by doing this so i don't recommend trying it at all
I’m not sure about the flagging because I once did the glitch and nothing happened to my account
@@furkannemiryou were not recording though :)
You cannot get flagged 👍
Saw that video from hbomb 7months ago it still works? Wow
probably useless, but you had the free upgrades on all your dart monkeys in the tack strat. never used them though.
edit: same for the stalling one. didnt even place the free monkeys. perhaps a super monkey fan club instead of the glues would have helped.
also would have loved to see a ninja strat.
Waiting for people to start commenting about imfs
i was gonna do the same thing LMFAOOOOO
but it did get nerfed so i'm not sure it would make a difference
at around ~93k (what i can do reasonably with ben)
i feel like ben's bank hack gives you the edge there but without ezili idk if that would even come close
@@chjicken8488 yeah
@@LikelyHexoadine yeah and how far would u get with that? i think not further than the strats in the videos because ur missing ezili
@@baris9031 ezili seems to be crucial. but I'm not sure if i would get close, maybe ben micro
Ive been thinking about this idea but with round 100, glad someone else did it so I dont have to!
Ive always thought there should be a gamemode for this, imagine the competition for highest round
this is an awesome concept. one of my favorite videos conceptually. the contents itself are also great, and its one of my favorites, but i cant necessarily say thats for any good reason (low frame of reference since i watched this differently to most videos)
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
All the banana farms and the village make a heart❤ 6:16
Cute
Cute
and then at 6:23 its a skull
anyone else wish he had done this with chinook farming a few updates ago were you could get millions before round 40 and the thumbnail could be true
When you did the stall run, you didn't build the free dart monkeys. It probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference because of no ice though
But they couldve all been 2-2-0 darts🤧 potentially lots of damage with the permastall
Hi, Mackan. ^^
I belive that Marketplace does better with the midle cross-path (make it 023, instead of 203). Specially if you have the money to pay for it right away. Of course, if you have to build it up, it is better to use the top cross-path.
Under a monkey city, they give the same amount.
Here's my idea to add to the challenge: you can choose any round to start farming on (example: start round 60 and end on round 100)
that way you have more strategizing on which rounds are the best to start farming based on the money you earn aswell as the money you need to spend on defending the bloons. also incase you plan to start at round 60 you cant farm before wave 60.
Yeah this was a question I asked myself couple of days ago just in time man
Same
Thanks for doing my challenge mackan, really appreciate
THESR DAILY UPLOADS ARE LIT
i really like all the ideas you manage to come up with, keep em up! :D
:D
I think it would have been worth it to try a ninja strategy (like the tack strategy with glue storm). Just no Grandmaster obviously as a couple of bloonjitsus give a similar amount of damage for a lot less money. You still need primary mentoring for glue storm but with this strategy you wouldn't need to build camo detection (because of espionage+glue storm) and you will have needed the village for triple discounts anyway. Although it is probably still worse than full on stalls it would have been nice to see if it was any better than the tacks
You successfully made a defense that can relatively easily make it to 163 and then die to it
Now let's make defense to round 263 like that
on the subsequent rounds, you didn't get the free dart monkeys, which I know sounds like a joke but in the first round they got a ton of pops so it might have been worth giving yourself the money to buy them (especially since you had a primary expertise so you would have gotten the first two tiers for free on all of them)
Player's 1 worst nightmare:
Player 1 Thinks that he is the best, but he is the worst, Player 4 is the best.
I think the bloon crush would have benefited from overclock more than from expertise. The extra money could have gone to a liquefier to clean up cerams, or maybe the overclock would allow for bottom crosspath on the bloon crush which deals a lot more damage and maybe could clean up itself.
bloon crush solidified as my favorite tower, amazing
Not sure if it would have made a big difference, but you could save a bit of money by starting to build towers before you sell the monkeyopolis so they get the discount
This guy makes the money I make on round 60 on round 40. This makes me realize how inefficient I am at farming.
You know when Mackan scripts his video it's gonna be peak!
The free darts you didn't have them in second test and they could have 2 free upgrades each
Istg it is too funny watching you on 2x speed lmao
8:05 Btw it is possible to get a dart paragon on round 27 so you hade pretty little amount of money
i can’t lie these new videos have actually been so entertaining
Im glad! :)
6:22 This guy knows so much about farming but still doesn't understand how farms work
🗿
16:17 thats where my highest round ends
I also have an idea for a challenge: create a random challenge and go as far as you can
Gonna just wait for the same thing, but with round 60, 80 and 100
Feel asleep around round 28 - 30
Enjoyed my nap greatly uwu
your music taste are really good Mackan
you also could have used the free darts monkey from mokey city, with village you maybe get another round
Challenge: get the highest round while the Apache prime has the most pops WITHOUT selling damage towers (you can sell farms and such)
yooo thanks for doing my idea!
if you use heli pilot + glue gunner you can stall the rounds and get tons of money
One thing you firgot about in you stall retry was all the free dart monkeys you could have at 202
this is like deflation with extra steps if you think about it
Make a highest chimps run with least towers. For example, 5 towers only.
Do this but for round 60, 80, and 100 respectively next! (Medium hard impoppable)
an actual round 163 death is insane
Lol
@MackanRules Could you look into ultra lategame on bloonarius prime (past 100k round)?
I'm curious how many prime numbers NK added into the code and if the game breaking round comes any sooner compared to other maps.
Waiting for the sequel using imf loans, at the very least you could just buy a lot at the end and get lent a bunch of money.
Also I'd say it's worth giving a shot to flipping it around and using Psy to kill everything but the BADs, and using the 85k on BAD damage with something like a carpet of spikes? Maybe an impale for stalling for Psy?
6:40 I don't think this is really necessary because all farms tick once at the beginning of the round, meaning that you'll still get the same amount of ticks if you buy the upgrade 1 second later.
Punji making 4 million dollars before round 40:
i think u can farm better than that, however even with the money u had, i believe ninja army should be the best. super buffed master bomber stuns and deletes ddts and also does dmg to bads, i think u can get to 200+ with that setup, if you want to try this again
This is just how Ben mains play the game easy mode.
Two questions
Couldn't you do the pungy farming strat of Chinocks?
Couldn't you get the anti balloon with the discount of the monkeopolise?
18:52 Literally Round 95 with everything is DDT
23:38 Lol
23:56 Lmao
Player 3 is taking notes
what about something like how far could you go with only last targeting or one of the others?
can't you upgrade the free dart monkeys in range of the village for free? Idk if it would have changed anything but every little helps right? This vid was super cool tho, hope u do one for round 60 next!
i think by stalling with the middle path tier 4 heli pilot and spamming abilities you get more money
The intro music made me think i clicked onto an electroboom video
For the tack strategy, u could’ve bought upgrades on the darts for free
Can't wait for @Raxzor to get 100+ rounds further!!
Yea, on his oval
@@jezierskioliwier2212 farming with middle path helies
@@psbpsbp ok, so with punji stall
IMF farming would give you quite a bit more to play with
It would be curious to see how many rounds do you get with a monkey of each category
Bro is cooking
I've tried this challenge myself and I was able to get to round 156 with master bomber + Shinobi army strat
This is the Fat Electrician music!
Glad Midsommar! tekniskt sätt forfarande midsommar eftersom det är midsommardagen.
IMF farming could give you a lot more money.
i just realized that mack you didnt upgrade the free dart monkeys with the free upgrades from pmentoring
Video idea: How much money can you make before popping the round 100 BAD? I honestly think it will be a great idea considering the amount of money you can make. Also, can you NOT make this challenge in Logs?
How far can you get with 1 tower
My boy forgot the 14 free dart monkeys in the stall strat. Not giving my boy a fair shake, smh
I think super glue instead of bloom crush because you can afford more damage
wideo idea:can you get to round 300 starting from round 100 (you get 10 000starting money)
This should be called deflation plus
Literally player 3
Great video!
Thanks! :)
Nice video for soloing boss's! (No I'm not playing with you player 3)
8:43 ... Why the hell was the Ray of Doom shooting behind him? Is there some bounce or something?
You can make 3m+ on a specific version
every boss player bruh
Someone asks the right Questions!
isnt heli stalling better, even without the cheese?
Woah mackan upload!
"Woah mackan upload!"
* Translate to English *
"Woah sandwich upload!"
Is miniopolis still worth it?
4:53 i don't get the reason? i thought you only go 203/4 in the beginning because you put down 200 farms to start with and upgrade them to 203 but if you have enough money/income, as you did, you just directly put down a 023 as they make more money per round
Punho getting round 300: ☠️☠️
What about TT5 druids?
I love mackanrules
Average boss fight prep:
Spoiler:he farms
isnt IMF farming better for this scenario? u dont have to worry about the debt, so youll have more money for defences
Average Tewbre video (You forgot about dying to round 28)
You should have kept the village for the discount
He updated a farm and then sold it without playing any rounds lol
I feel like the background music is a fair amount too loud on this one