Sorry to spoil the fun, but mackan was forced to nerf the moab by 50% or so. It's just so powerful and hot that it's not possible to pop em. I doubt a dark champion could pop such a bloon
@@kittykat1587 Dang it! I guess there is simply no other way. I will need to learn IFM farming, and use Shinook for perma-stalling every round. That way I can afford a Legend of the Night, and suck up the MOAB using the portal.
@@CommentPositionInformerI regret to bring this info to you, but the round 40 moab is too thiccc to be sucked up by the LoTN portal. The only way to beat it is to perma-stall it with a map full of moab shoves, an icicle impale, and super glue. Even then… it’s so hard to beat that it’s rng.
i was gonna do the same thing LMFAOOOOO but it did get nerfed so i'm not sure it would make a difference at around ~93k (what i can do reasonably with ben)
probably useless, but you had the free upgrades on all your dart monkeys in the tack strat. never used them though. edit: same for the stalling one. didnt even place the free monkeys. perhaps a super monkey fan club instead of the glues would have helped. also would have loved to see a ninja strat.
theres a bug in apopalypse that practically makes you get infinite money just by going back into the menu before a round ends, so you can technically get infinite money on round 40 if you're patient enough though you can get flagged by doing this so i don't recommend trying it at all
this is an awesome concept. one of my favorite videos conceptually. the contents itself are also great, and its one of my favorites, but i cant necessarily say thats for any good reason (low frame of reference since i watched this differently to most videos)
Hi, Mackan. ^^ I belive that Marketplace does better with the midle cross-path (make it 023, instead of 203). Specially if you have the money to pay for it right away. Of course, if you have to build it up, it is better to use the top cross-path.
on the subsequent rounds, you didn't get the free dart monkeys, which I know sounds like a joke but in the first round they got a ton of pops so it might have been worth giving yourself the money to buy them (especially since you had a primary expertise so you would have gotten the first two tiers for free on all of them)
I think it would have been worth it to try a ninja strategy (like the tack strategy with glue storm). Just no Grandmaster obviously as a couple of bloonjitsus give a similar amount of damage for a lot less money. You still need primary mentoring for glue storm but with this strategy you wouldn't need to build camo detection (because of espionage+glue storm) and you will have needed the village for triple discounts anyway. Although it is probably still worse than full on stalls it would have been nice to see if it was any better than the tacks
Here's my idea to add to the challenge: you can choose any round to start farming on (example: start round 60 and end on round 100) that way you have more strategizing on which rounds are the best to start farming based on the money you earn aswell as the money you need to spend on defending the bloons. also incase you plan to start at round 60 you cant farm before wave 60.
6:40 I don't think this is really necessary because all farms tick once at the beginning of the round, meaning that you'll still get the same amount of ticks if you buy the upgrade 1 second later.
Not sure if it would have made a big difference, but you could save a bit of money by starting to build towers before you sell the monkeyopolis so they get the discount
I think the bloon crush would have benefited from overclock more than from expertise. The extra money could have gone to a liquefier to clean up cerams, or maybe the overclock would allow for bottom crosspath on the bloon crush which deals a lot more damage and maybe could clean up itself.
4:53 i don't get the reason? i thought you only go 203/4 in the beginning because you put down 200 farms to start with and upgrade them to 203 but if you have enough money/income, as you did, you just directly put down a 023 as they make more money per round
@MackanRules Could you look into ultra lategame on bloonarius prime (past 100k round)? I'm curious how many prime numbers NK added into the code and if the game breaking round comes any sooner compared to other maps.
Waiting for the sequel using imf loans, at the very least you could just buy a lot at the end and get lent a bunch of money. Also I'd say it's worth giving a shot to flipping it around and using Psy to kill everything but the BADs, and using the 85k on BAD damage with something like a carpet of spikes? Maybe an impale for stalling for Psy?
can't you upgrade the free dart monkeys in range of the village for free? Idk if it would have changed anything but every little helps right? This vid was super cool tho, hope u do one for round 60 next!
I'm upset he didn't spam the free upgrades on the free dart monkeys. (I'm doubtful it would have made a noticable difference, but still it's something)
i think u can farm better than that, however even with the money u had, i believe ninja army should be the best. super buffed master bomber stuns and deletes ddts and also does dmg to bads, i think u can get to 200+ with that setup, if you want to try this again
Video idea: How much money can you make before popping the round 100 BAD? I honestly think it will be a great idea considering the amount of money you can make. Also, can you NOT make this challenge in Logs?
most of these comments are jokes or silly things but ive seen the video where someone got a dart paragon on round 27 if you kept up that farming strat you could probaly get a tsg like in the intro
"Yea we're gonna leak some"
> fucking dies
Well he said 'uhhh we are gonna leak some here, yeah that's it' he never thought he would live 🤷♂🤷♂
Yes, *finally* I will be able to beat the Round 40 MOAB!
yes
Sorry to spoil the fun, but mackan was forced to nerf the moab by 50% or so. It's just so powerful and hot that it's not possible to pop em. I doubt a dark champion could pop such a bloon
@@kittykat1587
Dang it!
I guess there is simply no other way. I will need to learn IFM farming, and use Shinook for perma-stalling every round.
That way I can afford a Legend of the Night, and suck up the MOAB using the portal.
@@CommentPositionInformerI regret to bring this info to you, but the round 40 moab is too thiccc to be sucked up by the LoTN portal. The only way to beat it is to perma-stall it with a map full of moab shoves, an icicle impale, and super glue. Even then… it’s so hard to beat that it’s rng.
@@codenameloser8488
Bro, I'm cooked 😭
Player 3's worst nightmare:
He *is* player 3
@@Emporio_of_Light True
Or best dream
@@hatcher365best nightmare :D
For Me farmer is player 2
Next please do this on round 60 , to see how much 20 rounds of snowballing can do , I would love that
He should do it on medium and hard and see how much the extra rounds/different prices affect it
you can buy paragons at that time bro
But you would need to put it on medium difficulty for that so he still stops placing and upgrading towers in free play.
@@imadudewithissues well still, it would still be interesting how much further those 20 rounds of income can be optimised
Commenting to help this comment so he will see it
Damn I didn’t think 140 would be possible.166 is insane!
I mean, 20k with mk can get you to 120+ soo that's not really surprising
@@PonFromRussia ...and 40k with mk can get you to 138.
Rip free tier ones on the darts lol
ngl i was bout to say that, i may be wrong, but isn't it tier 1 and 2 upgrades?
@@chickenguy8764No tier two upgrade free with primary expertise village
@@chickenguy8764 for stall strat run yeah, for tack strat run only tier 1s... woulda been helpful to speed up the rounds
12:30 I wish I lasted longer is crazyy😂😂
12:25
Waiting for people to start commenting about imfs
i was gonna do the same thing LMFAOOOOO
but it did get nerfed so i'm not sure it would make a difference
at around ~93k (what i can do reasonably with ben)
i feel like ben's bank hack gives you the edge there but without ezili idk if that would even come close
@@chjicken8488 yeah
@@LikelyHexoadine yeah and how far would u get with that? i think not further than the strats in the videos because ur missing ezili
@@baris9031 ezili seems to be crucial. but I'm not sure if i would get close, maybe ben micro
probably useless, but you had the free upgrades on all your dart monkeys in the tack strat. never used them though.
edit: same for the stalling one. didnt even place the free monkeys. perhaps a super monkey fan club instead of the glues would have helped.
also would have loved to see a ninja strat.
8:05 Btw it is possible to get a dart paragon on round 27 so you hade pretty little amount of money
theres a bug in apopalypse that practically makes you get infinite money just by going back into the menu before a round ends, so you can technically get infinite money on round 40 if you're patient enough
though you can get flagged by doing this so i don't recommend trying it at all
I’m not sure about the flagging because I once did the glitch and nothing happened to my account
@@furkannemiryou were not recording though :)
You cannot get flagged 👍
Saw that video from hbomb 7months ago it still works? Wow
All the banana farms and the village make a heart❤ 6:16
Cute
Cute
and then at 6:23 its a skull
Ive been thinking about this idea but with round 100, glad someone else did it so I dont have to!
this is an awesome concept. one of my favorite videos conceptually. the contents itself are also great, and its one of my favorites, but i cant necessarily say thats for any good reason (low frame of reference since i watched this differently to most videos)
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
i really like all the ideas you manage to come up with, keep em up! :D
:D
Hi, Mackan. ^^
I belive that Marketplace does better with the midle cross-path (make it 023, instead of 203). Specially if you have the money to pay for it right away. Of course, if you have to build it up, it is better to use the top cross-path.
Under a monkey city, they give the same amount.
When you did the stall run, you didn't build the free dart monkeys. It probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference because of no ice though
But they couldve all been 2-2-0 darts🤧 potentially lots of damage with the permastall
Ive always thought there should be a gamemode for this, imagine the competition for highest round
Player's 1 worst nightmare:
Player 1 Thinks that he is the best, but he is the worst, Player 4 is the best.
anyone else wish he had done this with chinook farming a few updates ago were you could get millions before round 40 and the thumbnail could be true
Thanks for doing my challenge mackan, really appreciate
6:22 This guy knows so much about farming but still doesn't understand how farms work
🗿
Yeah this was a question I asked myself couple of days ago just in time man
Same
THESR DAILY UPLOADS ARE LIT
on the subsequent rounds, you didn't get the free dart monkeys, which I know sounds like a joke but in the first round they got a ton of pops so it might have been worth giving yourself the money to buy them (especially since you had a primary expertise so you would have gotten the first two tiers for free on all of them)
You know when Mackan scripts his video it's gonna be peak!
The free darts you didn't have them in second test and they could have 2 free upgrades each
yooo thanks for doing my idea!
You successfully made a defense that can relatively easily make it to 163 and then die to it
Now let's make defense to round 263 like that
I think it would have been worth it to try a ninja strategy (like the tack strategy with glue storm). Just no Grandmaster obviously as a couple of bloonjitsus give a similar amount of damage for a lot less money. You still need primary mentoring for glue storm but with this strategy you wouldn't need to build camo detection (because of espionage+glue storm) and you will have needed the village for triple discounts anyway. Although it is probably still worse than full on stalls it would have been nice to see if it was any better than the tacks
Istg it is too funny watching you on 2x speed lmao
This guy makes the money I make on round 60 on round 40. This makes me realize how inefficient I am at farming.
Here's my idea to add to the challenge: you can choose any round to start farming on (example: start round 60 and end on round 100)
that way you have more strategizing on which rounds are the best to start farming based on the money you earn aswell as the money you need to spend on defending the bloons. also incase you plan to start at round 60 you cant farm before wave 60.
8:43 ... Why the hell was the Ray of Doom shooting behind him? Is there some bounce or something?
bloon crush solidified as my favorite tower, amazing
16:17 thats where my highest round ends
6:40 I don't think this is really necessary because all farms tick once at the beginning of the round, meaning that you'll still get the same amount of ticks if you buy the upgrade 1 second later.
Not sure if it would have made a big difference, but you could save a bit of money by starting to build towers before you sell the monkeyopolis so they get the discount
I think the bloon crush would have benefited from overclock more than from expertise. The extra money could have gone to a liquefier to clean up cerams, or maybe the overclock would allow for bottom crosspath on the bloon crush which deals a lot more damage and maybe could clean up itself.
i can’t lie these new videos have actually been so entertaining
Im glad! :)
I also have an idea for a challenge: create a random challenge and go as far as you can
It would be curious to see how many rounds do you get with a monkey of each category
your music taste are really good Mackan
One thing you firgot about in you stall retry was all the free dart monkeys you could have at 202
How far can you get with 1 tower
Not using the monkeyopolis discount hurt me so much
you also could have used the free darts monkey from mokey city, with village you maybe get another round
if you use heli pilot + glue gunner you can stall the rounds and get tons of money
this is like deflation with extra steps if you think about it
Two questions
Couldn't you do the pungy farming strat of Chinocks?
Couldn't you get the anti balloon with the discount of the monkeopolise?
This is just how Ben mains play the game easy mode.
4:53 i don't get the reason? i thought you only go 203/4 in the beginning because you put down 200 farms to start with and upgrade them to 203 but if you have enough money/income, as you did, you just directly put down a 023 as they make more money per round
Gonna just wait for the same thing, but with round 60, 80 and 100
i just realized that mack you didnt upgrade the free dart monkeys with the free upgrades from pmentoring
Punji making 4 million dollars before round 40:
Feel asleep around round 28 - 30
Enjoyed my nap greatly uwu
@MackanRules Could you look into ultra lategame on bloonarius prime (past 100k round)?
I'm curious how many prime numbers NK added into the code and if the game breaking round comes any sooner compared to other maps.
Waiting for the sequel using imf loans, at the very least you could just buy a lot at the end and get lent a bunch of money.
Also I'd say it's worth giving a shot to flipping it around and using Psy to kill everything but the BADs, and using the 85k on BAD damage with something like a carpet of spikes? Maybe an impale for stalling for Psy?
You can make 3m+ on a specific version
what about something like how far could you go with only last targeting or one of the others?
Is miniopolis still worth it?
can't you upgrade the free dart monkeys in range of the village for free? Idk if it would have changed anything but every little helps right? This vid was super cool tho, hope u do one for round 60 next!
The intro music made me think i clicked onto an electroboom video
an actual round 163 death is insane
Lol
isnt heli stalling better, even without the cheese?
My boy forgot the 14 free dart monkeys in the stall strat. Not giving my boy a fair shake, smh
This is the Fat Electrician music!
Player 3 is taking notes
18:52 Literally Round 95 with everything is DDT
23:38 Lol
23:56 Lmao
i think by stalling with the middle path tier 4 heli pilot and spamming abilities you get more money
What about TT5 druids?
I feel like the background music is a fair amount too loud on this one
For the tack strategy, u could’ve bought upgrades on the darts for free
I'm upset he didn't spam the free upgrades on the free dart monkeys.
(I'm doubtful it would have made a noticable difference, but still it's something)
Do this but for round 60, 80, and 100 respectively next! (Medium hard impoppable)
i think u can farm better than that, however even with the money u had, i believe ninja army should be the best. super buffed master bomber stuns and deletes ddts and also does dmg to bads, i think u can get to 200+ with that setup, if you want to try this again
Challenge: get the highest round while the Apache prime has the most pops WITHOUT selling damage towers (you can sell farms and such)
Make a highest chimps run with least towers. For example, 5 towers only.
IMF farming would give you quite a bit more to play with
Glad Midsommar! tekniskt sätt forfarande midsommar eftersom det är midsommardagen.
Can't wait for @Raxzor to get 100+ rounds further!!
Yea, on his oval
@@jezierskioliwier2212 farming with middle path helies
@@psbpsbp ok, so with punji stall
I've tried this challenge myself and I was able to get to round 156 with master bomber + Shinobi army strat
every boss player bruh
isnt IMF farming better for this scenario? u dont have to worry about the debt, so youll have more money for defences
Bro is cooking
This should be called deflation plus
Video idea: How much money can you make before popping the round 100 BAD? I honestly think it will be a great idea considering the amount of money you can make. Also, can you NOT make this challenge in Logs?
Someone asks the right Questions!
I think super glue instead of bloom crush because you can afford more damage
You should have kept the village for the discount
Why you giving wrong crosspath on farms?
Great video!
Thanks! :)
IMF farming could give you a lot more money.
Isnt valuable bananas better on marketplace
Literally player 3
He updated a farm and then sold it without playing any rounds lol
wideo idea:can you get to round 300 starting from round 100 (you get 10 000starting money)
most of these comments are jokes or silly things but ive seen the video where someone got a dart paragon on round 27 if you kept up that farming strat you could probaly get a tsg like in the intro
How?
What strategy?
Punho getting round 300: ☠️☠️
Insta monkeys and infinite cash glitch (not working anymore): am I joke to you?