The main reason the atomic bombs were dropped was to save lives. It was estimated that it would cost over 100,000 American lives to conquer Japan. The Japanese had convinced their citizens that the Americans were coming to commit all kinds of atrocities, including rape and killing of children. It would have meant fighting for every inch of ground and killing an untold number of Japanese soldiers and civilians. As for the U.S.S.R. joining the fight, Japan is an island country like Great Britain, and that means boats. To my understanding, any Navy the U.S.S.R. and Great Britain had was in the Atlantic and would have taken a significant period of time to rebuild and get the Pacific thus prolonging the war and costing many more lives in the process. Also, given what the U.S.S.R. did to Germany and their own people, Japan can be glad the U.S.A. brought an end to the war as quickly as they did
100K was the LOW US casualty estimate. And yes, hundreds of thousands of Japanese military and civilians would have been killed. Carpet bombing was not convincing the Japanese High Command to surrender.
The estimates were much higher actually. They estimated, based on Okinawa and iwo jima, that it would take 2-5 million lives to conquer the Japanese home islands. Of course, that's the combined estimate for US, Japanese, UK, and Russian soldiers. I don't know about you, but if you are faced the choice of a long, months long ground campaign that will have a near guaranteed cost of 2 million lives, or to drop two bombs killing 200,000 but ending the war now; I hope everyone would choose the bombs.
Conventional (non-nuclear) bombing of Tokyo on March 9, 1945 destroyed 90% of the buildings and killed 100,000 people. The nuclear bomb dropped on Nagasaki destroyed 90% of its buildings, and killed 60,000-80,000 people. Not even factoring in what the losses would have been from a ground invasion, but nuclear bombs killed FEWER people than conventional bombs, and ended the war.
To put into perspective how many men it would take to invade mainland Japan, every Purple Heart given out until a couple years ago was made in anticipation of the invasion of Japan.
We have not exhausted them yet. My best friend was KIA and she was given one posthumous. And they still have more in storage. We anticipated over 100,000 American soldiers to be killed in a invasion of mainland Japan. It's crazy how many lives were ACTUALLY saved by dropping the bombs in Japan. Not just American soldiers but also Japanese civilians. Simply because all the civilians were told Americans were going to do to them what the USSR did to the German people when they got into Germany (rape and Kill) so every step on the mainland, the civilians would have been fighting as hard as they could, as they would 100% that they would be better off dead than allow Americans to take over. They would rather kill their families than let Americans do to them what the USSR did to Germany.
@@elizabethannedavis5176 Based on evidence of how the war was faught out in the Pacific it was estimated up to 10m casualties on the Allies side and the complete destruction of the Japanese people.
You're damn right we didn't have to drop the bomb on Japan. We could have slogged it out on the beaches and fought for every inch of the home islands. We avoided that. Commanders have the responsibility to spend the lives of their troops with frugality. Anything else is a betrayal. If nuking all of Japan was the price for saving one US soldier, it would have been worth the price. I'm not saying that it would not have been a tragedy; it certainly would have been and the stain on our souls would remain forever. What is worse, though, is the stain that would not even be noticed; the stain from letting Pvt. John Doe of Podunk city die on the beach to overcome the foe that could be overcome without his loss of life. People have this idea that death is somehow worse if it involved the emission of neutrons and ionizing radiation. It is merely death. It is ugly; it is sad; it is a waste in virtually all cases. If such wastage is mandated, however, I am fully willing to let it fall on the shoulders of the enemy. Better still would be to not have the waste of so much slaughter at all. The expected casualties from the invasion of the home islands was staggering. The Pentagon is still using up the stockpile of purple hearts that was accumulated in the expectation of those casualties. We have not had to manufacture any since 1945. I pray we will never have to have another production run.
That's what bushido gets you. The Japanese made the finest blades, in all of history. You'd think they would have understood, that a thing that does not bend, will surely break.
Correct. The Allies could have resorted to the very ugly option of blockading the islands to eliminate the civilians through starvation. The dying could have dragged on for a very long time. The atomic bombs gave the emperor an out, a way to say that Japan was up against an almost supernatural force which could destroy whole cities and he had to end the war. When it got out that that was his intent there was an unsuccessful coup to prevent the announcement, as significant forces still wanted to fight on, but that is another story.
@@LillithPlaysSims I never made that claim. I claimed that the responsibility of our military leadership is to expend OUR lives as frugally as possible. (The responsibility of foreign leadership would usually be diametrically opposed to this). Better yet, avoid war when possible. When it is thrust upon you by an intolerable alternative, fight to win as quickly and overwhelmingly as possible. To do other wise is to realize the stalemate of history that cost more lives than most battles.
Top 5 war movies well here’s 5 great war movies. 1. Hamburger Hill 2. Heartbreak Ridge 3. Casualties of War 4. Full Metal Jacket And for a little humor 5. Good Morning Vietnam All great movies definitely worth watching
Ernie Pyle was a famous war correspondent during WWII, he was a well known reporter and because of his age he was assigned to the 77th when he was drafted in 1941, so he was not actually supposed to be doing any of the combat, his job was supposed to be to report to the American people how things were progressing in the war in the Pacific, this was usually small clips that were played in the movie theaters before the movie started, his loss was known about and felt across the country.
I went through RTC (Navy boot camp) at 30. I was in the best shape of my life, 5'7" 117lbs and 12% body fat. Some of the girls in my div were afraid they would fail out on push-ups, so I helped them learn a progression to do every day. I like to think I earned it whenever someone called me "mom." Best bad time I've ever had!
On Nov 10th, 1775 in Tun Tavern in Philadelphia, the Continental Marines were created to serve aboard US Naval ships as their fighting force on the sea and on land as the circumstances warranted. The Marine Corps is also the smallest branch of the US armed services because it is part of the Navy. Really enjoying these videos! Semper Fi!
Band of Brothers. It is MUCH closer than other WWII movies I have seen. Well worth 10 episodes plus extras. Saving Private Ryan. The story line isn't historically correct, but DAMN! The D-Day landing scene had grown men SOBBING in the theater. It's correct. May God bless all our veterans, but especially those who lived through such horrific events.
Don’t underestimate yourself my friend…. It’s went through Basic at age 27 and continued through 15 years in the Army with two tours in Iraq… age truly is a number… it’s amazing what your body can do when you give it no choice!! Mad love from a long time sub!!
Short and sweet, a Japanese mainland invasion was projected to cost 1 million casualties on the allied side bare minimum. Japanese casualties would have numbered in the 10’s of millions. 500,000 or so by comparison via atomic weapons was much less. To anyone griping about said atomic bombs, more people died in the Tokyo firebombings than both Hiroshima and Nagasaki COMBINED. Not saying either was a good thing, but a bit of perspective is important.
That is true about the bomb. Just look at how bad it was landing in Okinawa. How many died during that landing. If anyone would have landed in Japan it would have been a bloodbath
I bothers me how much people gloss over this to make a bad faith argument deriding the US. They wanted to expedite the end of the war and minimize the loss of life on both sides, and made the decision to use their new technology to achieve that goal. The annoying part of this discussion is that if we had not dropped the bombs, and taken the mainland d-day style, the same bad faith argument would be made for not dropping them and increasing the civilian casualties. Some folks just like to be mad and will latch onto whatever reason justifies that sentiment.
I agree with you on the Navy at the top, I then follow that with the Marine corps, then the Army, and then the coast guard and Air Farce at the bottom, our military truly DOES NOT need the Chair Force to fight a war with.
In the Pacific front the Soviets had border disputes with Japan until August of 1945 when they declared war. The US didn't want them to eBay snipe the last hit since the Soviets waited to see who was winning.
Ok.... my top 5 favorite war movies. Number 1: Kelly's Heroes. Number 2: The dirty dozen. Number 3: The green berets. Number 4: Bridge over the river Quai. Number 5: Full metal jacket. For a movie that you should watch/react to , it would be my number one.... Kelly's Heroes , it's a great flick. This movie has several BIG stars in it. Telly Savalis , Don Rickles , Gavin McCloud , Donald Sutherland , Carol O'Connor , and many others. Including the main character's roll of Kelly....played by non other than , CLINT EASTWOOD ! This movie is one of THE greatest war movies of all time and my personal favorite. Many thanks for all the videos. Jim , Seattle Washington.
My late father enlisted in the army in 1943 at the age of 28 and served until 1946. He was the second fastest runner in his company and survived, barely the European battlefields.
1. Full Metal Jacket 2. We were Soldiers 3. Saving Private Ryan 4. A Bridge too Far 5. The Dirty Dozen In no particular order but these are a few great War movies that are truly great not the best 5 of all time but all worth a watch. 2, 4 and 5 I believe are based off true stories and the rest show the military in a very accurate light. Try them out you probably won't be disappointed
my favorite military movies are Full medal jacket, saving private ryan, hacksaw ridge, lone survivor, and flags of our father. Im sure there are others that i missed but this is what i like
My grandpa was 14 when the Japanese invaded Cebu. He was beaten by a Japanese soldier for refusing to salute him. The kids of the island used to “play” around the Japanese encampments, steal their documents, and smuggle them to the Americans.
Couldn't resist giving you a top 5 war films as a film historian. These are just my opinion. 1. Apocalypse Now 2. Come and See 3. Saving Private Ryan 4. Full Metal Jacket 5. Platoon
I got to meet a man that won the medal of honor recipient of Okinawa. He was a flamethrower operator named Herschel "Woody" Williams. He was a great man. He just passed two years ago at the age of 98.
Fury, Hacksaw Ridge, we were boys once and young, and Band of Brothers. Saving Private Ryan’s also pretty good, most accurate D-day landing ever put to film.
I know I’m late to commenting my top five but band of Brothers directed by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg is hands-down, my favorite and one of the best war movies/series ever!!!’
My top 5 list is "Saving Private Ryan", "Hacksaw Ridge", "Glory", "Fury", and (I'll reserve the last spot for a show because it's just too good not to mention) "Band of Brothers ".
In no particular order: Hacksaw Ridge, We Were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, Fury. Bonus Movies: All Quiet on the Western Front (Netflix), Letters from Iwo Jima, Lone Survivor. As far as America dropping the nukes. Absolutely correct. The US just fought the battle of Okinawa and it was one of the bloodiest battles in the war. They knew that if they invaded Japan it would take Millions of America soldiers to do it. Hundreds of thousands would be killed or wounded. And millions of Japanese military and civilians would be killed. On top of that, the USSR was using the continuation of the war to capture as much land as they possibly could to absorb into their "Union" and turn all of Asia Communist. This would have been disastrous for the Western Allies AS WELL AS all of those Asian Countries. America need to end the war quickly so that way it would save live AND stop the USSR from scooping up more land. People have argued the justification of the nukes since they were dropped but the reality is that 120,000-220,000 died from both atomic bombs. In the battle of Okinawa (the one I mentioned earlier) 90,000 Japanese Soldiers and 150,000 Okinawan civilians died. In one battle. So even the HIGHEST estimated of deaths from the Atomic Bombs was less than the battle for that one island. And that doesn't take into account the American casualties. If America invaded Japan it would have been an absolute meat-grinder. They were training their women and children to charge with bamboo spears. NOT invading would have likely resulted in a Conditional Surrender with no Occupation and Japan likely would have built back up over the next couple of decades in the same way Germany did after WWI. They needed to be defeated completely and wholly. Could it have been done without the Nukes? Unlikely. And even if they did, there is NO WAY that the Atomic Bombs would have been developed and NEVER used. It's just not in human nature to sit on that without using it. There needed to be a real-world application to understand its incredible and terrible power. The best time for that to have happened was when the Americans were the only one to have it. I doubt the USSR would have shown the same restraint.
1.Saving private Ryan. 2. Midway (2019). 3. Blackhawk down. 4. We were soldiers. 5. Fury. And Band of brothers is a must watch and The pacific is also pretty good but not as good as band of brothers.
I don’t understand why people recommend midway because even though it was based off of the battle of midway it’s cgi and terrible screenplay doesn’t do what actually happened any sort of justice
Love Nick (the fat electrician), and this was a great reaction. Absolutely loved that you actually listened to and reacted to his sponsor as well. I don't watch tons of reaction videos but man you are putting in work and I can't understand for the life of me why reaction creators sometimes get a negative rap when you are literally giving even the sponsors a shout out. Great freaking work and and insightful comments and questions. You asked for our favorite 5 war movies...so here goes: 1. Das Boot (1982; however, if you have the option either the 1984 300 minute BBC miniseries version or the 2004 293 minute Original Uncut Version are both superior to the original 149 minute version. 2. Band of Brothers (2001 miniseries) 3. The Great Escape (1963) 4. 2 way tie for movies that show the effects of war on children...the first somehow handles the subject matter with quite a bit of humor but then gives you moments that just absolutely kick you in the nuts...Jojo Rabbit (2019) and the much, much more sober and horrendous version depicted in 1985's Come and See. 5. Glory (1989) There are so, so many more that I would recommend and even some that are better than the ones I listed. But I chose these specifically to show different depictions of war. The first is from a German U-boat perspective of WWII, the second is the US's Easy Company's complete story in from the beginning to end of WWII, the third is about allied forces POWs in WWII, the fourth as stated before is about the effects of war on children and the fifth is about one of the first African-American regiments in the American "Civil" war (the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment which was led by a white colonel, Robert Gould Shaw played by Matthew Broderick and has Denzel Washington co-staring as Private Silas Trip).
Personal list of top 5 war movies in no particular order. 1: Hacksaw Ridge 2: We Were Soldiers 3: Saving Private Ryan (obviously) 4: Red Tails 5: Full Metal Jacket I missed a lot of great ones but I gave you a condensed list.
The japanese held the soviets off for 2 weeks before America dropped "big boy" and "little boy". Yes the Japanese were a ferocious force and many Americans would have died taking inland japan, we had to use a power move we only planned on using once, but immediately after the first bomb, japan announced they would continue the war... so we dropped the second one.
I'm U.S. Army, retired in 2017. In my experience we don't complain about training because it's time we know we're not deployed. That's a W. Take it and drive on.
You did not listen, or at least understand what he said. He was making the point that marines Excell at only a few things....if he wanted something " Dead , broken or pregnant" they are the first pick, compliments and playing nice with others...not so much. He was highlighting what a complement to your fighting ability it for a marine to count you as one of them.
yeah i went through boot camp (Navy) at 18, been there done that. BUT i had NO real fight experience and became a PROFESSIONAL MMA fighter at 31. yeah i started fighting when most guys retired, so i know the sentiment
my top 5 war movies not in any particular order 1. Saving private Ryan 2.black hawk down 3.full metal jacket 4. hurt locker 5. lone survivor gonna add a 6th cause i cant not include it 6. 13 hours; the secret soldiers of Benghazi
Hamburger hill if you want to knowwhat Vietnam was like, Wind Talkers, Hacksaw Rigde. And of course saving private ryan. Thats all i got, but I'd like to see a reaction of David Ball "Private Malone"
6:30 You're mostly right, actually. Plan B in case the atomic bombings failed to force Japan into surrender was called Operation Downfall and the plan was to simply make landfall at the southern tip of Japan, using Okinawa as a staging ground, and then work our way north. And we knew that trying to take Japan through conventional warfare would mean essentially, if not literally, exterminating the Japanese population, because we knew that every man and many women old enough to fight would, and they'd do it to death. The military minted 500,000 Purple Hearts in preparation for this operation, and to put that into perspective, we haven't had to make any more since. In fact, we still have about 100,000 left. That's how many casualties the planners expected us to take. And it probably would have been worse than that, because Japan's defensive strategy hinged on anticipating where we would land our troops, and based on declassified document, they had guessed perfectly. Now factor in the people planning this invasion didn't know about the atomic bomb. They thought this ground invasion was plan A, and when we dropped the bombs we were already massing troops in Okinawa. This was the best plan that our greatest strategists could come up with to end the war as quickly and with as little further loss of life as possible. We had tried propaganda and extensive bombing campaigns. We had firebombed Tokyo so throughly that there was nothing left to destroy. Bombadiers were being instructed to hit targets of opportunity because everything worth destroying had already been annihilated and the Japanese showed no sign of weakening their resistance. If we had had to go through with that invasion, there's a very real possibility that the only Japanese people left in the world would be almost entirely made up of ethnic Japanese living abroad. We also anticipated that once Germany and Japan were dealt with, the USSR was going to be the next big problem. We didn't ally with them because they were our friends but because we had a common enemy. In fact, after Germany capitulated, General Patton wanted to keep rolling the tanks east to nip that problem in the bud before it became another major war, but was held back by allied leadership. So another reason for using the atom bomb on Japan was to make sure that the USSR or anyone else who might be thinking about fucking around knew that if they tried it, they were gonna find out. 17:53 lol that dude Alpha in your chat wouldn't survive his first night in a combat zone because he'd light a fire, not considering that it can be seen from virtually any distance away as long as there's a clear line of sight, and he'd get either captured or have his throat slit by the enemy while slept all cozy and warm by his fire. Fire usually keeps you alive. In war it gets you killed. It's a target. It's an easy target too. Easy to spot and sight on from all angles, it illuminates the area, and in the modern day it even provides a heat signature for heat seeking weapons to home in on. They weren't allowed to make fires in Louisiana because of they make one in France they'll get their entire unit wiped out.
WOW.......One thing the History Books Quietly Leaves in the Back ground Regarding the Dropping of the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima. The Boots on ground Invasion of any Japan Held island would need to be first softened with Naval Bombardment for several days prior to amphibious landing of Troops. Air Force Colonel Lamay was in charge of the assault on JAPAN who had previously found that Incendiary Bomb's had more of an affect on the cities of Japan than conventional Bombs. Creating Fire Storms within the Cities Wooden Structures and reducing the Loss of US Aircraft during air strikes. Lamey was given given complete authority and command of the available resources of the Aircraft assigned from the Europe Theater since Germany had just Surrendered. Some 70,000 Additional Aircraft were now Available for Colonel Lamey to Unleash His Fire Storm Assault Prior to the Boots on Ground Invasion of Japan. Lamey's Strategy was more wide scoped then just the Island of Japan. His Approach to save as many American Lives as possible was to Fire Storming Roughly a Third of the Continent of ASIA Prior to US Soldiers Assaulting the Island Of JAPAN. This part is Not in the History Books. Newly President Truman had thought or was advised that how is this going to look 50yrs from now that the USA had Fire Stormed a Third of the Continent of ASIA. The Lesser of Two Evils was to Drop The Bomb. Two Decades Later......General Lamey, under the command of President John F. Kennedy, would play a Pivotal Roll in the Naval Blockade of the Island of Cuba in 1962 after the USSR had place Intercontinental Atomic Ballistic Missiles in CUBA Bringing the world on the brink of world war three. Since we are all still here to talk about it............That can be considered a Major Win. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOUR HIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRUMP 2024 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FLUSH THE BIDEN FILTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is no time for Fake Leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And another thing... Waiting for the USSR would have been evil as well. They would have had a say in the final results. We were allies of convenience and yes, against the Germans, the Russian casualties made all the others pale in comparison. That doesn't stop the fact that, compared to the communists, the Nazis or the Imperial Japanese were only amateurs and didn't take slaughter seriously. I have not doubt that a higher proportion of Soviet participation in the Pacific would have resulted in far more deaths ultimately... and, mostly, they would have been much more ghastly than just dying of radiation poisoning.
Haclsaw ridge, Dirty dozen, Fury Anything with Audie Murphy bc idk the movie names And Kellies heroes just for the flavor. A sixth and seventh is top gun and top gun maverick.
It’s an old movie. But if you want to KNOW about DDAY, the Invasion of Normandy by the Allies to liberate France and Europe, watch THE LONGEST DAY. To learn about Pearl Harbor, watch TORA TORA TORA. Watch Midway…the 70s movie not the modern trash.
Hacksaw Ridge, Saving Private Ryan, Dunkirk, Red Tails, and Midway are a few WW2 movies I'd recommend. Also recommend 1917 for WW1. Would also recommend Monuments Men, but only b/c I love Art History (college wouldn't let me double-major to include said subject due to schedule conflicts😑).
They can't have tents and fire because they're playing war games. So they have to act like they're in war, and you can't usually use tents and fires will give away position. Also, the atomic bombs were dropped to prevent a war in Japan, as it would cost WAY more lives than the nuclear bombs. And the rhing about Russians and not wanting them to have influence in Japan is true. We wanted to have Japan be friendly and working with the US, so we would have a strong ally with bases in the country in Asia. So, if we ever had to, we could have a forward advanced base to start our fight from.
The usually accepted order of best to worse fighting force is, Marines, Army, Navy as am easy 1,2,3. Then Coast Guard and the Air Force are close in comparison.
Great list, except you did not include the greatest war movie of all time. You have Pearl Harbor in there when you should have had Full Metal Jacket. Hell I would put Stripes in there before that horrible tripe that is Pearl Harbor.
The truth is that "Operation Downfall" the invasion of Japan was scheduled to begin in March or April of 1946, and there was several reasons for this, not the least of which was that with the defense that Japan had made very public the estimates were that in order to SUCCESSFULLY Invade and conquer Japan home islands, it was likely to cost up to 10,000,000 American Soldiers, Sailors and Marines, as well as 6,000,000 British, 2,000,000 Canadians, 2,000,000 Australians, and 10,000,000 Russians to gain the victory, and then add up to 30,000,000 Japanese military and civilians, and the war would likely not end till late 1947 possibly mid 1948, it was worth the attempt to scare the Japanese enough to get a surrender BEFORE an invasion, in order to save up to 60,000,000 combined people, MAYBE displaying such a terrible weapon could cause PAUSE in the Japanese Military minds, so YES while the total deaths of people from those 2 bombs over the course of 50 years turned out to be about 1,300,000 people, so yes they did in fact take a lot of lives, but saved a LOT more lives than they took, President Truman's decision had ZERO to do with concern of "SHARING" Japan with Russia and our allies, that was not going to happen one way or the other, because the U.S. DID defeat the Japanese ALL BY OURSELVES, we did receive some support from the Australians, but we mostly handled Japan alone. we dropped those bombs hoping to save lives instead of taking them!
Before he watches it, he should see the story about Percy "Hobo" Hobart. That story gives a little historical background on those invasions and why they went the way that they did.
Top five war movies are pretty easy Midway 2019(this movie is so accurate the history channel uses scenes for documentaries) Hacksaw. Ridge, Fury, 12 Strong, Dirty Dozen
Yes we could have done it the really bloody way in a proper Invasion but that would have been stupid. Despite the horrible aftermath of the atomic bomb drops far more people would have died if we had done it the conventional way. Also the USSR was not necessarily our Ally by that point. Things where already going into the freezer for the Cold War. Most importantly the war is already over. The soldiers have died. Yhe survivors carried on, and the best we can do is remember. Unfortunately our generation has forgotten the lessons that were hard won. Don't try rewriting history, just learn from it, and don't make the same mistakes. Second-guessing of the decisions made before we were even born as simply spitting on their graves. If you don't agree with something don't do it.
We never wanted any part of world war two. But there were those countries who wanted to mess around and find out and they found out. Not only could we fight If you provoke us. You get what you get.
America took out japan pretty much alone which also being the sole reason d-day's operation could even happen due to supplies of men and equipment. I'm not American but they kicked alot of ass in ww2.
The Soviets kept all the territory they took in WWII. If they had invaded Japan it would have made Japan communist. So yes, it was essential that the Soviets didn't invade and it was good for Japan in the long term. If you don't believe me just go look at the former soviet bloc countries.
12:17 life expectancy has always been foggy, people have always lived to be 70-80-even 90. Infants just never made it, if you made it past 5 years old your life expectancy went up CRAZY amounts. so take 6 people, died at 2, 1, 4, 2 months, 76, 1 = so the “average” age with those numbers is 14 years old, see what I mean?
The main reason the atomic bombs were dropped was to save lives. It was estimated that it would cost over 100,000 American lives to conquer Japan. The Japanese had convinced their citizens that the Americans were coming to commit all kinds of atrocities, including rape and killing of children. It would have meant fighting for every inch of ground and killing an untold number of Japanese soldiers and civilians. As for the U.S.S.R. joining the fight, Japan is an island country like Great Britain, and that means boats. To my understanding, any Navy the U.S.S.R. and Great Britain had was in the Atlantic and would have taken a significant period of time to rebuild and get the Pacific thus prolonging the war and costing many more lives in the process. Also, given what the U.S.S.R. did to Germany and their own people, Japan can be glad the U.S.A. brought an end to the war as quickly as they did
100K was the LOW US casualty estimate. And yes, hundreds of thousands of Japanese military and civilians would have been killed. Carpet bombing was not convincing the Japanese High Command to surrender.
The estimates were much higher actually. They estimated, based on Okinawa and iwo jima, that it would take 2-5 million lives to conquer the Japanese home islands. Of course, that's the combined estimate for US, Japanese, UK, and Russian soldiers.
I don't know about you, but if you are faced the choice of a long, months long ground campaign that will have a near guaranteed cost of 2 million lives, or to drop two bombs killing 200,000 but ending the war now; I hope everyone would choose the bombs.
Conventional (non-nuclear) bombing of Tokyo on March 9, 1945 destroyed 90% of the buildings and killed 100,000 people.
The nuclear bomb dropped on Nagasaki destroyed 90% of its buildings, and killed 60,000-80,000 people.
Not even factoring in what the losses would have been from a ground invasion, but nuclear bombs killed FEWER people than conventional bombs, and ended the war.
Actually, around 1 million U.S military and around 5 million japanese civilians. So, what would people preffer: 200k japanese casualties or 6 million?
@@brazilianluke5798not to mention what the ussr would have done to them as well, they were brutal
To put into perspective how many men it would take to invade mainland Japan, every Purple Heart given out until a couple years ago was made in anticipation of the invasion of Japan.
We have not exhausted them yet. My best friend was KIA and she was given one posthumous. And they still have more in storage. We anticipated over 100,000 American soldiers to be killed in a invasion of mainland Japan. It's crazy how many lives were ACTUALLY saved by dropping the bombs in Japan. Not just American soldiers but also Japanese civilians. Simply because all the civilians were told Americans were going to do to them what the USSR did to the German people when they got into Germany (rape and Kill) so every step on the mainland, the civilians would have been fighting as hard as they could, as they would 100% that they would be better off dead than allow Americans to take over. They would rather kill their families than let Americans do to them what the USSR did to Germany.
@@elizabethannedavis5176 Based on evidence of how the war was faught out in the Pacific it was estimated up to 10m casualties on the Allies side and the complete destruction of the Japanese people.
You're damn right we didn't have to drop the bomb on Japan. We could have slogged it out on the beaches and fought for every inch of the home islands. We avoided that.
Commanders have the responsibility to spend the lives of their troops with frugality. Anything else is a betrayal. If nuking all of Japan was the price for saving one US soldier, it would have been worth the price. I'm not saying that it would not have been a tragedy; it certainly would have been and the stain on our souls would remain forever. What is worse, though, is the stain that would not even be noticed; the stain from letting Pvt. John Doe of Podunk city die on the beach to overcome the foe that could be overcome without his loss of life.
People have this idea that death is somehow worse if it involved the emission of neutrons and ionizing radiation. It is merely death. It is ugly; it is sad; it is a waste in virtually all cases. If such wastage is mandated, however, I am fully willing to let it fall on the shoulders of the enemy. Better still would be to not have the waste of so much slaughter at all.
The expected casualties from the invasion of the home islands was staggering. The Pentagon is still using up the stockpile of purple hearts that was accumulated in the expectation of those casualties. We have not had to manufacture any since 1945. I pray we will never have to have another production run.
That's what bushido gets you.
The Japanese made the finest blades, in all of history.
You'd think they would have understood, that a thing that does not bend, will surely break.
Correct. The Allies could have resorted to the very ugly option of blockading the islands to eliminate the civilians through starvation. The dying could have dragged on for a very long time. The atomic bombs gave the emperor an out, a way to say that Japan was up against an almost supernatural force which could destroy whole cities and he had to end the war. When it got out that that was his intent there was an unsuccessful coup to prevent the announcement, as significant forces still wanted to fight on, but that is another story.
Wild take here buddy, but American lives are not a single bit more valuable than Japanese lives or any other countries.
@@LillithPlaysSims I never made that claim. I claimed that the responsibility of our military leadership is to expend OUR lives as frugally as possible. (The responsibility of foreign leadership would usually be diametrically opposed to this). Better yet, avoid war when possible. When it is thrust upon you by an intolerable alternative, fight to win as quickly and overwhelmingly as possible. To do other wise is to realize the stalemate of history that cost more lives than most battles.
My father was a marine in WWII. He would have gone in with the invasion. I might not be here today without the Atomic bombs.
My grandpa was a freshly drafted soldier. I'm in the same boat as you if we hadn't dropped those bombs.
Top 5 war movies well here’s 5 great war movies.
1. Hamburger Hill
2. Heartbreak Ridge
3. Casualties of War
4. Full Metal Jacket
And for a little humor
5. Good Morning Vietnam
All great movies definitely worth watching
Ernie Pyle was a famous war correspondent during WWII, he was a well known reporter and because of his age he was assigned to the 77th when he was drafted in 1941, so he was not actually supposed to be doing any of the combat, his job was supposed to be to report to the American people how things were progressing in the war in the Pacific, this was usually small clips that were played in the movie theaters before the movie started, his loss was known about and felt across the country.
I went through RTC (Navy boot camp) at 30. I was in the best shape of my life, 5'7" 117lbs and 12% body fat. Some of the girls in my div were afraid they would fail out on push-ups, so I helped them learn a progression to do every day. I like to think I earned it whenever someone called me "mom." Best bad time I've ever had!
Technically, the US Marine Corp is also part of the US Navy. Look at their flag. It actually says "Department of the Navy" on it.
Exactly. The Marines were called The Continental Marines during the American Revolution
On Nov 10th, 1775 in Tun Tavern in Philadelphia, the Continental Marines were created to serve aboard US Naval ships as their fighting force on the sea and on land as the circumstances warranted. The Marine Corps is also the smallest branch of the US armed services because it is part of the Navy. Really enjoying these videos! Semper Fi!
Sometimes Dead, Broke or Pregnant is exactly what you need.
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"Making my head look like the back of a crunch bar" 😂 that is the most unexpectedly accurate description I've heard in a while. Fantastic.
Not a movie, but Band of Brothers stands at the top of that list. 10 episodes and a short documentary.
The Pacific, Black Hawk Down, Saving Private Ryan, Greyhound...
The battle on Okinawa is what sealed the deal for the need to use the atomic bomb
Saving Private Ryan, we were soldiers, Midway, hacksaw ridge, Platoon
Dont forget Band of Brothers, Master of Air, The Pacific, The Outport and American Sniper. All really good movies
Black hawk down, technically not a war movie but I think it fits this list
My Staff Sergeant in Germany was a Doss. Never asked if he was related but he was an OUTstanding leader
Band of Brothers. It is MUCH closer than other WWII movies I have seen. Well worth 10 episodes plus extras.
Saving Private Ryan. The story line isn't historically correct, but DAMN! The D-Day landing scene had grown men SOBBING in the theater. It's correct.
May God bless all our veterans, but especially those who lived through such horrific events.
Don’t underestimate yourself my friend…. It’s went through Basic at age 27 and continued through 15 years in the Army with two tours in Iraq… age truly is a number… it’s amazing what your body can do when you give it no choice!! Mad love from a long time sub!!
Hacksaw ridge, We were soldiers, Black hawk down, Saving Private Ryan, Flags of our fathers
enemy at the gates, saving private ryan, we were soldiers, black hawk down, danger close
Letters from Iwo Jima
Saving Private Ryan
1917
Glory
Flags of our Fathers
Liked because no one says 1917
48:20 that’s badass, taking a picture with bullet holes in his helmet which is no doubt his.
Short and sweet, a Japanese mainland invasion was projected to cost 1 million casualties on the allied side bare minimum. Japanese casualties would have numbered in the 10’s of millions. 500,000 or so by comparison via atomic weapons was much less. To anyone griping about said atomic bombs, more people died in the Tokyo firebombings than both Hiroshima and Nagasaki COMBINED. Not saying either was a good thing, but a bit of perspective is important.
That is true about the bomb. Just look at how bad it was landing in Okinawa. How many died during that landing. If anyone would have landed in Japan it would have been a bloodbath
I bothers me how much people gloss over this to make a bad faith argument deriding the US. They wanted to expedite the end of the war and minimize the loss of life on both sides, and made the decision to use their new technology to achieve that goal. The annoying part of this discussion is that if we had not dropped the bombs, and taken the mainland d-day style, the same bad faith argument would be made for not dropping them and increasing the civilian casualties. Some folks just like to be mad and will latch onto whatever reason justifies that sentiment.
I agree with you on the Navy at the top, I then follow that with the Marine corps, then the Army, and then the coast guard and Air Farce at the bottom, our military truly DOES NOT need the Chair Force to fight a war with.
In the Pacific front the Soviets had border disputes with Japan until August of 1945 when they declared war. The US didn't want them to eBay snipe the last hit since the Soviets waited to see who was winning.
There are still islands that the Russians say are theirs. They just don't fight about it now.
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This dude said he's got the navy on top with the chair force in 2nd! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dunkirk and The Longest Hour. The longest hour is more so about Winston Churchill during WW2, but it’s a great movie.
Edit: Also the movie “Fury”
Ok.... my top 5 favorite war movies. Number 1: Kelly's Heroes. Number 2: The dirty dozen. Number 3: The green berets. Number 4: Bridge over the river Quai. Number 5: Full metal jacket. For a movie that you should watch/react to , it would be my number one.... Kelly's Heroes , it's a great flick. This movie has several BIG stars in it. Telly Savalis , Don Rickles , Gavin McCloud , Donald Sutherland , Carol O'Connor , and many others. Including the main character's roll of Kelly....played by non other than , CLINT EASTWOOD ! This movie is one of THE greatest war movies of all time and my personal favorite. Many thanks for all the videos. Jim , Seattle Washington.
1. Saving private Ryan
2. Blackhawk down,
3. 1917
4. Fury
5. Platoon
I'm hoping for a video on the 761st tank battalion. Better known as the Black Panthers.
My late father enlisted in the army in 1943 at the age of 28 and served until 1946. He was the second fastest runner in his company and survived, barely the European battlefields.
Saving private ryan, we were soldiers, windtalkers, hacksaw ridge, and fury.
1. Full Metal Jacket
2. We were Soldiers
3. Saving Private Ryan
4. A Bridge too Far
5. The Dirty Dozen
In no particular order but these are a few great War movies that are truly great not the best 5 of all time but all worth a watch. 2, 4 and 5 I believe are based off true stories and the rest show the military in a very accurate light. Try them out you probably won't be disappointed
A bridge to far, black hawk down, lone survivor, Platoon, saving private ryan
I joined the National Guard at 44 (almost 45), went to AIT at 46, went to Iraq (as a 68W) at 47.
My top 5 is band of brothers, hacksaw ridge, we where soldiers, full metal jacket and apocalypse now and Schindler's list are tied for the #1 pick.
My top 3 shows
1. Band of Brothers
2. Masters of the Air
3. The Pacific
My top 5 war movies: 1. Black hawk down 2. Saving private Ryan 3. Hacksaw ridge 4. Lone survivor 5. Midway
there's been some good ones recently, Hacksaw Ridge, 1917, Dunkirk are all solid. Fury is great too and he did a video about the guy it's based on
my favorite military movies are Full medal jacket, saving private ryan, hacksaw ridge, lone survivor, and flags of our father. Im sure there are others that i missed but this is what i like
My grandpa was 14 when the Japanese invaded Cebu. He was beaten by a Japanese soldier for refusing to salute him. The kids of the island used to “play” around the Japanese encampments, steal their documents, and smuggle them to the Americans.
Couldn't resist giving you a top 5 war films as a film historian. These are just my opinion.
1. Apocalypse Now
2. Come and See
3. Saving Private Ryan
4. Full Metal Jacket
5. Platoon
I got to meet a man that won the medal of honor recipient of Okinawa. He was a flamethrower operator named Herschel "Woody" Williams. He was a great man. He just passed two years ago at the age of 98.
Fury, Hacksaw Ridge, we were boys once and young, and Band of Brothers. Saving Private Ryan’s also pretty good, most accurate D-day landing ever put to film.
I know I’m late to commenting my top five but band of Brothers directed by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg is hands-down, my favorite and one of the best war movies/series ever!!!’
My top 5 list is "Saving Private Ryan", "Hacksaw Ridge", "Glory", "Fury", and (I'll reserve the last spot for a show because it's just too good not to mention) "Band of Brothers ".
Top 5 war movies/series
1. Band of Brothers
2. Hacksaw Ridge
3. Platoon
4. Midway
5. Saving Private Ryan
In no particular order: Hacksaw Ridge, We Were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, Fury.
Bonus Movies: All Quiet on the Western Front (Netflix), Letters from Iwo Jima, Lone Survivor.
As far as America dropping the nukes. Absolutely correct. The US just fought the battle of Okinawa and it was one of the bloodiest battles in the war. They knew that if they invaded Japan it would take Millions of America soldiers to do it. Hundreds of thousands would be killed or wounded. And millions of Japanese military and civilians would be killed.
On top of that, the USSR was using the continuation of the war to capture as much land as they possibly could to absorb into their "Union" and turn all of Asia Communist. This would have been disastrous for the Western Allies AS WELL AS all of those Asian Countries. America need to end the war quickly so that way it would save live AND stop the USSR from scooping up more land.
People have argued the justification of the nukes since they were dropped but the reality is that 120,000-220,000 died from both atomic bombs. In the battle of Okinawa (the one I mentioned earlier) 90,000 Japanese Soldiers and 150,000 Okinawan civilians died. In one battle. So even the HIGHEST estimated of deaths from the Atomic Bombs was less than the battle for that one island. And that doesn't take into account the American casualties. If America invaded Japan it would have been an absolute meat-grinder. They were training their women and children to charge with bamboo spears. NOT invading would have likely resulted in a Conditional Surrender with no Occupation and Japan likely would have built back up over the next couple of decades in the same way Germany did after WWI. They needed to be defeated completely and wholly. Could it have been done without the Nukes? Unlikely. And even if they did, there is NO WAY that the Atomic Bombs would have been developed and NEVER used. It's just not in human nature to sit on that without using it. There needed to be a real-world application to understand its incredible and terrible power. The best time for that to have happened was when the Americans were the only one to have it. I doubt the USSR would have shown the same restraint.
Fat Man and Little Boy, IMHO, gives the viewer a better high-level overview of the development of the nuclear solution to end the war.
1.Saving private Ryan. 2. Midway (2019). 3. Blackhawk down. 4. We were soldiers. 5. Fury. And Band of brothers is a must watch and The pacific is also pretty good but not as good as band of brothers.
I don’t understand why people recommend midway because even though it was based off of the battle of midway it’s cgi and terrible screenplay doesn’t do what actually happened any sort of justice
Love Nick (the fat electrician), and this was a great reaction. Absolutely loved that you actually listened to and reacted to his sponsor as well. I don't watch tons of reaction videos but man you are putting in work and I can't understand for the life of me why reaction creators sometimes get a negative rap when you are literally giving even the sponsors a shout out. Great freaking work and and insightful comments and questions.
You asked for our favorite 5 war movies...so here goes:
1. Das Boot (1982; however, if you have the option either the 1984 300 minute BBC miniseries version or the 2004 293 minute Original Uncut Version are both superior to the original 149 minute version.
2. Band of Brothers (2001 miniseries)
3. The Great Escape (1963)
4. 2 way tie for movies that show the effects of war on children...the first somehow handles the subject matter with quite a bit of humor but then gives you moments that just absolutely kick you in the nuts...Jojo Rabbit (2019) and the much, much more sober and horrendous version depicted in 1985's Come and See.
5. Glory (1989)
There are so, so many more that I would recommend and even some that are better than the ones I listed. But I chose these specifically to show different depictions of war. The first is from a German U-boat perspective of WWII, the second is the US's Easy Company's complete story in from the beginning to end of WWII, the third is about allied forces POWs in WWII, the fourth as stated before is about the effects of war on children and the fifth is about one of the first African-American regiments in the American "Civil" war (the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment which was led by a white colonel, Robert Gould Shaw played by Matthew Broderick and has Denzel Washington co-staring as Private Silas Trip).
Personal list of top 5 war movies in no particular order.
1: Hacksaw Ridge
2: We Were Soldiers
3: Saving Private Ryan (obviously)
4: Red Tails
5: Full Metal Jacket
I missed a lot of great ones but I gave you a condensed list.
Hooey! You REALLY need to watch Fat Electrician's bit on the Marine Corps Birthday and the one about Toys For Tots!
"the Dirty Dozen" "Hacksaw Ridge" "heart break ridge" "Where Eagles Dare" "Inglorious Bastards" and I want to see "Fury"
The japanese held the soviets off for 2 weeks before America dropped "big boy" and "little boy".
Yes the Japanese were a ferocious force and many Americans would have died taking inland japan, we had to use a power move we only planned on using once, but immediately after the first bomb, japan announced they would continue the war... so we dropped the second one.
We were soldiers, saving Private Ryan, Hacksaw ridge, USS Indianapolis men of courage., Gettysburg. There’s a whole lot more but there’s 5 for you.
I'm U.S. Army, retired in 2017. In my experience we don't complain about training because it's time we know we're not deployed. That's a W. Take it and drive on.
You did not listen, or at least understand what he said. He was making the point that marines Excell at only a few things....if he wanted something " Dead , broken or pregnant" they are the first pick, compliments and playing nice with others...not so much. He was highlighting what a complement to your fighting ability it for a marine to count you as one of them.
dude, you are amusing. subbed.
Because the USSR did such a great job helping with Korea.
yeah i went through boot camp (Navy) at 18, been there done that. BUT i had NO real fight experience and became a PROFESSIONAL MMA fighter at 31. yeah i started fighting when most guys retired, so i know the sentiment
my top 5 war movies not in any particular order
1. Saving private Ryan
2.black hawk down
3.full metal jacket
4. hurt locker
5. lone survivor
gonna add a 6th cause i cant not include it
6. 13 hours; the secret soldiers of Benghazi
13 hours: The patriots
Obama and Clinton left to die alone
My top Documentaries
1. Battlefront (2001)
2. Battlefield 360
3. Victory At Sea
Hamburger hill if you want to knowwhat Vietnam was like, Wind Talkers, Hacksaw Rigde. And of course saving private ryan.
Thats all i got, but I'd like to see a reaction of David Ball "Private Malone"
6:30 You're mostly right, actually.
Plan B in case the atomic bombings failed to force Japan into surrender was called Operation Downfall and the plan was to simply make landfall at the southern tip of Japan, using Okinawa as a staging ground, and then work our way north. And we knew that trying to take Japan through conventional warfare would mean essentially, if not literally, exterminating the Japanese population, because we knew that every man and many women old enough to fight would, and they'd do it to death.
The military minted 500,000 Purple Hearts in preparation for this operation, and to put that into perspective, we haven't had to make any more since. In fact, we still have about 100,000 left. That's how many casualties the planners expected us to take. And it probably would have been worse than that, because Japan's defensive strategy hinged on anticipating where we would land our troops, and based on declassified document, they had guessed perfectly.
Now factor in the people planning this invasion didn't know about the atomic bomb. They thought this ground invasion was plan A, and when we dropped the bombs we were already massing troops in Okinawa. This was the best plan that our greatest strategists could come up with to end the war as quickly and with as little further loss of life as possible.
We had tried propaganda and extensive bombing campaigns. We had firebombed Tokyo so throughly that there was nothing left to destroy. Bombadiers were being instructed to hit targets of opportunity because everything worth destroying had already been annihilated and the Japanese showed no sign of weakening their resistance.
If we had had to go through with that invasion, there's a very real possibility that the only Japanese people left in the world would be almost entirely made up of ethnic Japanese living abroad.
We also anticipated that once Germany and Japan were dealt with, the USSR was going to be the next big problem. We didn't ally with them because they were our friends but because we had a common enemy. In fact, after Germany capitulated, General Patton wanted to keep rolling the tanks east to nip that problem in the bud before it became another major war, but was held back by allied leadership. So another reason for using the atom bomb on Japan was to make sure that the USSR or anyone else who might be thinking about fucking around knew that if they tried it, they were gonna find out.
17:53 lol that dude Alpha in your chat wouldn't survive his first night in a combat zone because he'd light a fire, not considering that it can be seen from virtually any distance away as long as there's a clear line of sight, and he'd get either captured or have his throat slit by the enemy while slept all cozy and warm by his fire.
Fire usually keeps you alive. In war it gets you killed. It's a target. It's an easy target too. Easy to spot and sight on from all angles, it illuminates the area, and in the modern day it even provides a heat signature for heat seeking weapons to home in on.
They weren't allowed to make fires in Louisiana because of they make one in France they'll get their entire unit wiped out.
WOW.......One thing the History Books Quietly Leaves in the Back ground Regarding the Dropping of the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima.
The Boots on ground Invasion of any Japan Held island would need to be first softened with Naval Bombardment for several days prior to amphibious landing of Troops.
Air Force Colonel Lamay was in charge of the assault on JAPAN who had previously found that Incendiary Bomb's had more of an affect on the cities of Japan than conventional Bombs.
Creating Fire Storms within the Cities Wooden Structures and reducing the Loss of US Aircraft during air strikes.
Lamey was given given complete authority and command of the available resources of the Aircraft assigned from the Europe Theater since Germany had just Surrendered.
Some 70,000 Additional Aircraft were now Available for Colonel Lamey to Unleash His Fire Storm Assault Prior to the Boots on Ground Invasion of Japan.
Lamey's Strategy was more wide scoped then just the Island of Japan.
His Approach to save as many American Lives as possible was to Fire Storming Roughly a Third of the Continent of ASIA Prior to US Soldiers Assaulting the Island Of JAPAN.
This part is Not in the History Books.
Newly President Truman had thought or was advised that how is this going to look 50yrs from now that the USA had Fire Stormed a Third of the Continent of ASIA.
The Lesser of Two Evils was to Drop The Bomb.
Two Decades Later......General Lamey, under the command of President John F. Kennedy, would play a Pivotal Roll in the Naval Blockade of the Island of Cuba in 1962 after the USSR had place Intercontinental Atomic Ballistic Missiles in CUBA Bringing the world on the brink of world war three.
Since we are all still here to talk about it............That can be considered a Major Win.
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Waiting for the USSR would have been evil as well. They would have had a say in the final results. We were allies of convenience and yes, against the Germans, the Russian casualties made all the others pale in comparison. That doesn't stop the fact that, compared to the communists, the Nazis or the Imperial Japanese were only amateurs and didn't take slaughter seriously. I have not doubt that a higher proportion of Soviet participation in the Pacific would have resulted in far more deaths ultimately... and, mostly, they would have been much more ghastly than just dying of radiation poisoning.
Haclsaw ridge,
Dirty dozen,
Fury
Anything with Audie Murphy bc idk the movie names
And Kellies heroes just for the flavor.
A sixth and seventh is top gun and top gun maverick.
0:37 oh brother. Watch Band of Brothers. That’s the only war series you’ll ever need
War Movies? Okay
Will update as I remember
Glory (2009 I think), Hacksaw Ridge like he mentioned, A Bridge Too Far (its black and white but enjoyable)
It’s an old movie. But if you want to KNOW about DDAY, the Invasion of Normandy by the Allies to liberate France and Europe, watch THE LONGEST DAY. To learn about Pearl Harbor, watch TORA TORA TORA. Watch Midway…the 70s movie not the modern trash.
Very true about the bomb why lose soldiers if you don't need to
Hacksaw Ridge, Saving Private Ryan, Dunkirk, Red Tails, and Midway are a few WW2 movies I'd recommend. Also recommend 1917 for WW1.
Would also recommend Monuments Men, but only b/c I love Art History (college wouldn't let me double-major to include said subject due to schedule conflicts😑).
They can't have tents and fire because they're playing war games. So they have to act like they're in war, and you can't usually use tents and fires will give away position.
Also, the atomic bombs were dropped to prevent a war in Japan, as it would cost WAY more lives than the nuclear bombs. And the rhing about Russians and not wanting them to have influence in Japan is true. We wanted to have Japan be friendly and working with the US, so we would have a strong ally with bases in the country in Asia. So, if we ever had to, we could have a forward advanced base to start our fight from.
The usually accepted order of best to worse fighting force is, Marines, Army, Navy as am easy 1,2,3. Then Coast Guard and the Air Force are close in comparison.
Top5: saving private ryan, platoon, fury, hacksaw ridge, (pearl harbor- enemy at the gates)
Great list, except you did not include the greatest war movie of all time. You have Pearl Harbor in there when you should have had Full Metal Jacket. Hell I would put Stripes in there before that horrible tripe that is Pearl Harbor.
I can give you the greatest war movie of all time, Full Metal Jacket.
Top 5 personally
1 saving Private Ryan
2 hacksaw ridge
3 1917
4 dunkirk
5 lone survivor
I have no idea why 1917 isn’t in anyone’s top 5
The truth is that "Operation Downfall" the invasion of Japan was scheduled to begin in March or April of 1946, and there was several reasons for this, not the least of which was that with the defense that Japan had made very public the estimates were that in order to SUCCESSFULLY Invade and conquer Japan home islands, it was likely to cost up to 10,000,000 American Soldiers, Sailors and Marines, as well as 6,000,000 British, 2,000,000 Canadians, 2,000,000 Australians, and 10,000,000 Russians to gain the victory, and then add up to 30,000,000 Japanese military and civilians, and the war would likely not end till late 1947 possibly mid 1948, it was worth the attempt to scare the Japanese enough to get a surrender BEFORE an invasion, in order to save up to 60,000,000 combined people, MAYBE displaying such a terrible weapon could cause PAUSE in the Japanese Military minds, so YES while the total deaths of people from those 2 bombs over the course of 50 years turned out to be about 1,300,000 people, so yes they did in fact take a lot of lives, but saved a LOT more lives than they took, President Truman's decision had ZERO to do with concern of "SHARING" Japan with Russia and our allies, that was not going to happen one way or the other, because the U.S. DID defeat the Japanese ALL BY OURSELVES, we did receive some support from the Australians, but we mostly handled Japan alone. we dropped those bombs hoping to save lives instead of taking them!
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Campfires would give away your position
Saving private ryan is the must watch, and hopefully react to as well
Before he watches it, he should see the story about Percy "Hobo" Hobart. That story gives a little historical background on those invasions and why they went the way that they did.
Top five war movies are pretty easy
Midway 2019(this movie is so accurate the history channel uses scenes for documentaries) Hacksaw. Ridge, Fury, 12 Strong, Dirty Dozen
Yes we could have done it the really bloody way in a proper Invasion but that would have been stupid.
Despite the horrible aftermath of the atomic bomb drops far more people would have died if we had done it the conventional way.
Also the USSR was not necessarily our Ally by that point.
Things where already going into the freezer for the Cold War.
Most importantly the war is already over.
The soldiers have died.
Yhe survivors carried on, and the best we can do is remember.
Unfortunately our generation has forgotten the lessons that were hard won.
Don't try rewriting history, just learn from it, and don't make the same mistakes.
Second-guessing of the decisions made before we were even born as simply spitting on their graves.
If you don't agree with something don't do it.
1:31 How to get on Nic’s bad side 101
The Japanese had referred to it as having 2 suns dropped them
Love the ff7 reference 😂❤
Band of brothers
Full metal jacket
Saving private Ryan
Apocalypse now
Stripes
Einstein had nothing to do with the making of the nuclear bomb.
We never wanted any part of world war two. But there were those countries who wanted to mess around and find out and they found out. Not only could we fight If you provoke us.
You get what you get.
Dad just got home from work lol
America took out japan pretty much alone which also being the sole reason d-day's operation could even happen due to supplies of men and equipment. I'm not American but they kicked alot of ass in ww2.
Look up Sergeant York him and seven other guys captured 137 German soldiers
Top war movie for me is the band of Brothers series
My top 5 movies:
Fury
The Covenant
Hacksaw Ridge
1917
Saving Private Ryan
The Soviets kept all the territory they took in WWII. If they had invaded Japan it would have made Japan communist. So yes, it was essential that the Soviets didn't invade and it was good for Japan in the long term. If you don't believe me just go look at the former soviet bloc countries.
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12:17 life expectancy has always been foggy, people have always lived to be 70-80-even 90. Infants just never made it, if you made it past 5 years old your life expectancy went up CRAZY amounts. so take 6 people, died at
2, 1, 4, 2 months, 76, 1 = so the “average” age with those numbers is 14 years old, see what I mean?
Kind of like what is happening now but younger people can’t see this
There was more than one war going on at the time.
Kelly's Heros, Operation Petticoat, The Great Escape, The Dirty Dozen, Enemy at the Gates.
In harm's way, The longest day, we were expendable, devils brigade, The Bridge on the River Kwai
Dirty dozen is literally just jake mcnasty shenanigans