Hello, Thanks for the great video. I wish I had found it sooner: This was the only one that mentions the inflow meter. Sure enough after I had exhausted all the possible causes I changed the meter and the problem was resolved. Thank you
Thanks man.. My machine just needed a good clean of the inflow to the Flowmeter.. now it's working again. I was about to buy a new 800 USD machine.. Saved those money thanks to you and one other YT channel :)
Dude, you're a star! You've just averted the zombie apocalypse. Yes, changing the yellow brew/heater thingy is like having a new engine. Easy to do too, cost €36
Wow, Thank you, you've managed to cram a lot of Information in this video. I was looking for a video to help solve an unrelated problem (an very occasional guttural vibrating sound at the beginning or end of a cycle that seems to be happening more often) but saw your video and decided to watch it. I've learned so much from it and can't thank you enough. It's people like you that make YT the incredible learning portal that it is. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, It's really appreciated.
HELP!!! Thanks for the very informative video! This is exactly (almost) what I was looking for. I only say "almost" as my ESAM4500 units (I think) have the previous version of the generator/boiler with only one heating element. Regardless, your detailed information provided what I needed to make repairs to my two units. Both units were not plugged but were just leaking during espresso making. With one, I replaced the entire generator/boiler as the unit was in very bad shape. I'd done this many years ago and your video, along with some pre-disassembly photos I'd taken, were great refreshers on the R&R procedure. All worked out great! The worst part is getting the nut and washer engaged to the two main mounting bolts at the rear of the generator/boiler. I had success by first attaching the front two mounting bolts to get it into position. Then I laid the machine on its side. This orientation placed the ends of the two rear bolts in a slightly elevated angle. Then, using double-stick tape wrapped around my finger, I first stuck the washer to the tape and guided my finger into the very tight space to install the washer to the tip of the bolt. Then, I repeated by sticking the nut onto the tape and was able to get the nuts threaded onto the rear bolts. I suppose a long and very skinny needle-nose pliers would have worked but I did not have one that would work. On the second unit I rebuilt the generator/boiler as it was in very good shape with no noted blockages. Wow, there are a TON of O-rings in there!!! Anyway, after replacement of the O-rings, all went back together just fine. All works well with one exception . . . While the repaired unit makes great espresso, the streamer/water dispenser is not working. It pumps up, I can tell it is pressurized, but nothing comes out of the spout. The spout is not blocked. I'm like 98% certain the steamer was working prior to my repair. Any insights on testing and corrective action would be appreciated. Regards, Rich
After reviewing your video once more, I understand now that the fitting and tube at the bottom of the generator is the supply source for the hot-water/steamer. As a result, my next step will be to confirm that water flows from this bottom-of-the-generator feed to the solenoid valve. If water does flow then my generator rebuild was successful and the issue might be with a faulty solenoid valve or a plug in the lines to the spout. If water does not flow from the feed line from the generator then there is an issue with my generator rebuild. Will do this when time permits as the machine is at my son's place 300 miles away. Any additional thoughts or corrections to my analysis above would be appreciated.
thanks so much for this! it turns out my problem was, I had put the spring in the infuser back in upside down when I was cleaning it last week. When I seen you pop out the little spring I felt liken idiot haha. But at the same time after having all apart I now I have the confidence to fix the machine in the future no mater what problems come up. great video
@coffeegrump Your videos are the best, thank you. Just replaced the pre filter and pump. Everything working well except the water spout on the delinghi perfecta still saying ground too fine. Any tips for that please ? I’ve run the descale manually by just rinsing via the coffee spouts. 🤔🤔😊😊
Thanks for this video, I've learned so much from this and your other videos. My esam3500 doesn't do anything when switched on other than display a message "Press OK". I press OK,the screen goes blank for a moment and then the message appears again. I power off, the brew unit moves around doing it's thing, no rinse and then switches off. I've serviced the heater block as you described, I even went as far as opening the heater unit and cleaned it as well. I've serviced the infuser and brew unit. I've serviced the transmission. I tested the pump and after all this, when I switch on, only the message appears. When I go into the diagnostics, when I test the pump, it'll stop and the message will appear, I'll power down and go back into diagnostics, try EV1 or EV2 and it'll come on for a moment and then the message appears again. At some point after doing all the servicing, everything worked in diagnostics mode and though my machine would work, but it didn't. Same message appeared. I'm very sad now . Can you please suggest something? Thanks again for your videos. Keep it up.
Thank you for such a thorough video. You covered possible contributors to the dreadful "Grounds to fine, adjust mill" error in order of water flow (from tank to cup). Could you post the suspects in order of probability? It other words, the most likely to be the problem to the least likely. I have the Eletta, 4.5 years old, 7,800 cups; I have descaled every time the machine has said to do so but will increase to every 3 months.
I Have a strange one where my machine has started to make very weak coffee AFTER I have cleaned, replaced the o rings and lubed up the infuser parts including the plunger and spring behind the castle plug. I also replaced the main O ring of the tamper on the generator. Sometimes the puck is whole and wet, sometimes a bit dry and in bits , and sometimes wet and gets scattered all over the machine. The amount of liquid in the cup corresponds to how much the manual says should be in there so I'm not suspecting any blockages of the water flow. I also took apart the tamper part of the generator and didn't find any blockages or signs of water in there. To add I live in a very soft water area and descale when the machine tells me to so limescale is never an issue. Inserting a tab into the door switch so I could watch what was going on with the door open, I noticed occasionally the infuser doesn't come all the way up before the puck extraction lever operates so only about 3/4 of the puck gets knocked into the bin. The infuser then comes up flush and the lever's return stroke flicks the rest all over the insides of the machine. Why the movement of the infuser gets out of sync and kind of stutters and only occasionally I can not tell. I have also greased the metal worm at the back in case the infuser was getting stuck somehow. Annoyingly this only started happening after I thought I'd do the right thing and give everything a good clean but that could be coincidence. I'm really running out of ideas and can't find any info on this particular problem especially as most youtube videos just say to clean and lube the infuser which I have done. In summary there are two problems. 1. Poor coffee extraction which happens all the time and 2.The occasional puck mess Any suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks. ESAM5400 btw.
Hi mate. Thanks so much for this video. Have you ever experienced an ESAM3500 that wasn't producing nice hard pucks, but instead spilling wet coffee all over inside. Mine has been doing this for a while, even after I replaced the infuser and pump. My generator appears all good but may well be the problem, I just want to look at possible problems that are less expensive to fix! Best wishes. Rich
Hi @Coffee Grump, I too am looking for a part number for the generator for an ESAM 5500B. The Encompass site doesn't list the part and the ECS has a couple but they don't ship to the US. Any help or guidance? Thanks for the great video, my generator seems to be leaking as the small part of the tray keeps filling up and overflowing out of the machine. Thanks again, Tony
Wow, you really know your stuff. Thank you for posting this vid. I have a unit which seems to be blowing holes in the heating element. Have you ever encountered this before?
Hi best video I’ve seen so I have a Jenn Air built in coffee guts made my by Delonghi. So I get this message as well have done descale etc interesting part is my hot water feature blows mostly steam a little water afterwards then shuts off and back to the same message what would you say the problem is. Thank you
Great video, thanks! I have this issue intermittently when machine turns on/runs a clean cycle. When that happens, pump sounds a little weird. Changing to steam clears the error and it works fine afterwards. Other time, it finishes the clean cycle without issues/errors. Any thoughts on what could cause it just on start-up?
Thanks for this great video it's really informative. My Delonghi ESAM 5500 is happy making Espresso's but refuses to dispense how water, steam milk or descale. It displays the 'grounds too fine' message. Looking inside the machine everything seems to be clean and tidy so I have no idea where I should focus my attention. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA
Hi Erkan, Thanks for your comment. I would start at the coupling that connects the milk carafe. sometimes these will plug solid for two reasons. 1. milk has completely blocked the port, 2. There was a manufacturing issue where the plastic that the coupling is made of was compromised and peeling. again plugging the port up. part number AS13200286. beyond this it could be the solenoid for the steam. Good luck
@@waynenewman1658 thank you. I put the machine into diagnostic mode and tested the solenoids. EV1 was not clicking when tested EV2 was fine so I’m going to try a new solenoid. Hopefully that’s the issue!
@@coffeegrump I appreciate the response. I looked up my model on Encompass and a majority of the parts appear to be unavailable or not listed at all. The Generator unfortunately doesn't appear to be for sale through them. Am I missing something? If you have a specific part # that I could search that would be great too. Thanks again for your time and help!
Hello, Thanks for the great video. I wish I had found it sooner: This was the only one that mentions the inflow meter. Sure enough after I had exhausted all the possible causes I changed the meter and the problem was resolved. Thank you
Thanks man.. My machine just needed a good clean of the inflow to the Flowmeter.. now it's working again.
I was about to buy a new 800 USD machine.. Saved those money thanks to you and one other YT channel :)
Dude, you're a star! You've just averted the zombie apocalypse. Yes, changing the yellow brew/heater thingy is like having a new engine. Easy to do too, cost €36
Wow, Thank you, you've managed to cram a lot of Information in this video. I was looking for a video to help solve an unrelated problem (an very occasional guttural vibrating sound at the beginning or end of a cycle that seems to be happening more often) but saw your video and decided to watch it. I've learned so much from it and can't thank you enough. It's people like you that make YT the incredible learning portal that it is. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, It's really appreciated.
Thank you Notts
Thank you! A really excellent breakdown of how things work and what to do.
HELP!!!
Thanks for the very informative video! This is exactly (almost) what I was looking for. I only say "almost" as my ESAM4500 units (I think) have the previous version of the generator/boiler with only one heating element. Regardless, your detailed information provided what I needed to make repairs to my two units. Both units were not plugged but were just leaking during espresso making.
With one, I replaced the entire generator/boiler as the unit was in very bad shape. I'd done this many years ago and your video, along with some pre-disassembly photos I'd taken, were great refreshers on the R&R procedure. All worked out great! The worst part is getting the nut and washer engaged to the two main mounting bolts at the rear of the generator/boiler. I had success by first attaching the front two mounting bolts to get it into position. Then I laid the machine on its side. This orientation placed the ends of the two rear bolts in a slightly elevated angle. Then, using double-stick tape wrapped around my finger, I first stuck the washer to the tape and guided my finger into the very tight space to install the washer to the tip of the bolt. Then, I repeated by sticking the nut onto the tape and was able to get the nuts threaded onto the rear bolts. I suppose a long and very skinny needle-nose pliers would have worked but I did not have one that would work.
On the second unit I rebuilt the generator/boiler as it was in very good shape with no noted blockages. Wow, there are a TON of O-rings in there!!! Anyway, after replacement of the O-rings, all went back together just fine. All works well with one exception . . .
While the repaired unit makes great espresso, the streamer/water dispenser is not working. It pumps up, I can tell it is pressurized, but nothing comes out of the spout. The spout is not blocked. I'm like 98% certain the steamer was working prior to my repair.
Any insights on testing and corrective action would be appreciated.
Regards,
Rich
After reviewing your video once more, I understand now that the fitting and tube at the bottom of the generator is the supply source for the hot-water/steamer. As a result, my next step will be to confirm that water flows from this bottom-of-the-generator feed to the solenoid valve. If water does flow then my generator rebuild was successful and the issue might be with a faulty solenoid valve or a plug in the lines to the spout. If water does not flow from the feed line from the generator then there is an issue with my generator rebuild. Will do this when time permits as the machine is at my son's place 300 miles away.
Any additional thoughts or corrections to my analysis above would be appreciated.
Best troubleshoot tutorial out there👍🏽
Thank you, Step 1 descale fixed my issue.
thanks so much for this! it turns out my problem was, I had put the spring in the infuser back in upside down when I was cleaning it last week. When I seen you pop out the little spring I felt liken idiot haha.
But at the same time after having all apart I now I have the confidence to fix the machine in the future no mater what problems come up.
great video
Very good, knowledgeable and concise, thank you
I'm getting the "grounds too fine" error only when using the milk steamer. The brewing side works fine. What should I look at?
@coffeegrump Your videos are the best, thank you. Just replaced the pre filter and pump. Everything working well except the water spout on the delinghi perfecta still saying ground too fine. Any tips for that please ? I’ve run the descale manually by just rinsing via the coffee spouts. 🤔🤔😊😊
Amazing and helpful video! Thank you so much!
Thanks for this video, I've learned so much from this and your other videos.
My esam3500 doesn't do anything when switched on other than display a message "Press OK". I press OK,the screen goes blank for a moment and then the message appears again. I power off, the brew unit moves around doing it's thing, no rinse and then switches off.
I've serviced the heater block as you described, I even went as far as opening the heater unit and cleaned it as well. I've serviced the infuser and brew unit. I've serviced the transmission. I tested the pump and after all this, when I switch on, only the message appears.
When I go into the diagnostics, when I test the pump, it'll stop and the message will appear, I'll power down and go back into diagnostics, try EV1 or EV2 and it'll come on for a moment and then the message appears again.
At some point after doing all the servicing, everything worked in diagnostics mode and though my machine would work, but it didn't. Same message appeared.
I'm very sad now . Can you please suggest something?
Thanks again for your videos. Keep it up.
Thank you for such a thorough video. You covered possible contributors to the dreadful "Grounds to fine, adjust mill" error in order of water flow (from tank to cup). Could you post the suspects in order of probability? It other words, the most likely to be the problem to the least likely. I have the Eletta, 4.5 years old, 7,800 cups; I have descaled every time the machine has said to do so but will increase to every 3 months.
I'm getting that same error only when using the steamer wand. Replaced pump, steamer valve and i'm still getting the error. Any Ideas?
Excellent video…lucky for me I only had to descale….do you know when to get display screen for Perfecta? Display screen dim
My machine still makes perfect coffee but doesn’t purge water on start-up. It does purge on shutdown. What can the problem be please?
I Have a strange one where my machine has started to make very weak coffee AFTER I have cleaned, replaced the o rings and lubed up the infuser parts including the plunger and spring behind the castle plug. I also replaced the main O ring of the tamper on the generator.
Sometimes the puck is whole and wet, sometimes a bit dry and in bits , and sometimes wet and gets scattered all over the machine. The amount of liquid in the cup corresponds to how much the manual says should be in there so I'm not suspecting any blockages of the water flow. I also took apart the tamper part of the generator and didn't find any blockages or signs of water in there. To add I live in a very soft water area and descale when the machine tells me to so limescale is never an issue.
Inserting a tab into the door switch so I could watch what was going on with the door open, I noticed occasionally the infuser doesn't come all the way up before the puck extraction lever operates so only about 3/4 of the puck gets knocked into the bin. The infuser then comes up flush and the lever's return stroke flicks the rest all over the insides of the machine. Why the movement of the infuser gets out of sync and kind of stutters and only occasionally I can not tell. I have also greased the metal worm at the back in case the infuser was getting stuck somehow.
Annoyingly this only started happening after I thought I'd do the right thing and give everything a good clean but that could be coincidence.
I'm really running out of ideas and can't find any info on this particular problem especially as most youtube videos just say to clean and lube the infuser which I have done.
In summary there are two problems. 1. Poor coffee extraction which happens all the time and 2.The occasional puck mess
Any suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks.
ESAM5400 btw.
Hi i got same problem with my coffee machine. Tell me if you got answers with that
Excellent instructions. Thank you.
Hi mate. Thanks so much for this video. Have you ever experienced an ESAM3500 that wasn't producing nice hard pucks, but instead spilling wet coffee all over inside. Mine has been doing this for a while, even after I replaced the infuser and pump. My generator appears all good but may well be the problem, I just want to look at possible problems that are less expensive to fix! Best wishes. Rich
Hello. Is there a way to get more water in your cup?
The My Coffee settings stop before my cup is full enough. Setting is not enough
Hi @Coffee Grump, I too am looking for a part number for the generator for an ESAM 5500B. The Encompass site doesn't list the part and the ECS has a couple but they don't ship to the US. Any help or guidance? Thanks for the great video, my generator seems to be leaking as the small part of the tray keeps filling up and overflowing out of the machine. Thanks again, Tony
Hi I have problems with my machine it is delonghi magnifica 3500S it shows this message while frothing the milk, I don’t really know what can it be.
Wow, you really know your stuff. Thank you for posting this vid. I have a unit which seems to be blowing holes in the heating element. Have you ever encountered this before?
Hi best video I’ve seen so I have a Jenn Air built in coffee guts made my by Delonghi. So I get this message as well have done descale etc interesting part is my hot water feature blows mostly steam a little water afterwards then shuts off and back to the same message what would you say the problem is. Thank you
Great video, thanks! I have this issue intermittently when machine turns on/runs a clean cycle. When that happens, pump sounds a little weird. Changing to steam clears the error and it works fine afterwards. Other time, it finishes the clean cycle without issues/errors. Any thoughts on what could cause it just on start-up?
We até Theo word Champions Very good
Thanks for this great video it's really informative. My Delonghi ESAM 5500 is happy making Espresso's but refuses to dispense how water, steam milk or descale. It displays the 'grounds too fine' message. Looking inside the machine everything seems to be clean and tidy so I have no idea where I should focus my attention. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA
Hi Erkan, Thanks for your comment. I would start at the coupling that connects the milk carafe. sometimes these will plug solid for two reasons. 1. milk has completely blocked the port, 2. There was a manufacturing issue where the plastic that the coupling is made of was compromised and peeling. again plugging the port up. part number AS13200286. beyond this it could be the solenoid for the steam. Good luck
@@waynenewman1658 thank you. I put the machine into diagnostic mode and tested the solenoids. EV1 was not clicking when tested EV2 was fine so I’m going to try a new solenoid. Hopefully that’s the issue!
Mine is just sending this message of water spout I don't know what to do please help
How do I get the filter and flow meter out?
I have this machine, and it won't drain water, and I need a solution for this, thanks
what grease do you use?
I use the Delonghi Grease Part #SER0354
Anyone know where I can buy a Generator? Esam5500B for reference. Thanks!
Hi Josh, North America you can order Encompass.com and in Canada ECSCoffee.com
@@coffeegrump I appreciate the response. I looked up my model on Encompass and a majority of the parts appear to be unavailable or not listed at all. The Generator unfortunately doesn't appear to be for sale through them. Am I missing something? If you have a specific part # that I could search that would be great too. Thanks again for your time and help!
I get this error once in awhile so I made a video that fixes my problem. It's the only video on my channel.