Yeah that’s kinda true. That’s 16 pulls beyond the guarantee. Even if you only pull for one of the two characters in a given patch, if you lose the 50/50, then you get neither limited character nor either of their signature weapons. Although that is still a minimum of 10 a rank pulls per patch. Even if you kept losing 50/50s, you’d eventually end up with every A rank M6 and at least one of every stable S rank. I think there should be more than 17k, but maybe not necessarily double. Maybe somewhere in the middle like 25k ish. At least then you’d still be incentivized to spend a little bit of money to get what you really want. Even then, the monochrome bundles are pretty damn steep. It should cost half as much as it does but they’d never do that.
For those who are into maths... Statistically, assuming you win the 50/50 50% of the time, it takes an average of 94 pulls to get 1 limited character. 17k polychromes means 106 pulls. On top of that, if you get summons on the dupe shop instead of W-Engines, this number should go up to around 115 pulls or so. Sure, if you assume the worst case scenario, this is still not enough to guarantee a character. So if there is a particular character you really really want, (say, Miyabi) it's probably better to save in advance. However, over time, if they keep this pace, we should be able to get roughtly one limited characters per version as f2p and still have a couple pulls left over. And since the game is pretty easy and there is no PvP or leaderboards, there isn't much pressure to go for W-Engines. As far as Hoyo goes, ZZZ is one of the most f2p friendly games, imo.
It's still sad that there are so many characters and team combinations, but you only want to stick to one or two teams and about six characters. How about more challenging content and more free stuff to experiment with? I should get out of gacha games..
Daily pass + Battlepass giving 124 pulls in polychromes is actually insane for a single patch. Not to mention the actual limited and standard tapes. And i also love how we get so many free boopons that it basically feels like ill never miss out on any new bangboos that come out.
so I had to look up what Canuto is and apparently it's Howl's Spanish name. so it's what you get from the scratch cards from the Newsstand. however, I have no idea how this source calculates 300 here? from what I can see, you can only expect to receive 5 x 20 per month, or 7 x 20 per patch for 140 polychromes. with luck it can be more, but it's silly to calculate with that. please correct me.
@ginpachi1 I enjoy it, yeah. Skipping a whole patch is something you gotta do sometimes if you're not interested in certain characters. I did pull for both burnice and caesar this patch and qingyi before that so its not like I've been hording since day one.
Well if I don't get Yanagi before getting the rest of Billy's cinema which I only need 3 more then I have him at M6 then I'll save for Miyabi and Harumasa. Probably. XD
I currently have 3000 in my account after Burnice. So if I skip 1.3 (one month) I can get this amount, at the least. Currently I don't have enough ways to get more since I maxed out all of the things to do in game. x_X
In total i will have 400+ pulls and i want to get miyabi yanagi and harumasa? (Was that his name), wish me luck (in case your wondering, no, i did not pull for anyone, that is why i have so many).
always make my pull on the start of the new banner and it hasn't failed me too much so far but Yanagi I might have to juice every event possible to get enough pull for her and the wengine
? Ima be real the time investment daily is like 5 minutes. Thats spending energy which you dont need to do so it takes 1 minute to get daily polychrome. For spending energy you can do when you have time.
I know I'm one guy of 10s of millions, but Hoyo lost me as a customer after 5 banner losses in a row, (one of those being a weapon.) There's a 0% chance I'll keep forking over money just to get robbed lol.
How the hell are all of you getting all the polys when im bearly getting like a 3rd or half of what theyre giving us. Where are the rest locked behind ?
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17k polychromes is definitely not enough pulls for those who constantly lose the 50/50.
but it is for those who win ;)
Yeah that’s kinda true. That’s 16 pulls beyond the guarantee. Even if you only pull for one of the two characters in a given patch, if you lose the 50/50, then you get neither limited character nor either of their signature weapons. Although that is still a minimum of 10 a rank pulls per patch. Even if you kept losing 50/50s, you’d eventually end up with every A rank M6 and at least one of every stable S rank. I think there should be more than 17k, but maybe not necessarily double. Maybe somewhere in the middle like 25k ish. At least then you’d still be incentivized to spend a little bit of money to get what you really want. Even then, the monochrome bundles are pretty damn steep. It should cost half as much as it does but they’d never do that.
Womp womp
@@BuddyChy I loose all 50/50 and already have all A rank M6, so no pluses for me, I also dont have any banners signature weapon.
yeah i never win 50/50 tho
For those who are into maths... Statistically, assuming you win the 50/50 50% of the time, it takes an average of 94 pulls to get 1 limited character.
17k polychromes means 106 pulls.
On top of that, if you get summons on the dupe shop instead of W-Engines, this number should go up to around 115 pulls or so.
Sure, if you assume the worst case scenario, this is still not enough to guarantee a character. So if there is a particular character you really really want, (say, Miyabi) it's probably better to save in advance.
However, over time, if they keep this pace, we should be able to get roughtly one limited characters per version as f2p and still have a couple pulls left over. And since the game is pretty easy and there is no PvP or leaderboards, there isn't much pressure to go for W-Engines.
As far as Hoyo goes, ZZZ is one of the most f2p friendly games, imo.
Agree. As long as this game holds off on PvP, the meta shouldn't effect in any kind
It's still sad that there are so many characters and team combinations, but you only want to stick to one or two teams and about six characters.
How about more challenging content and more free stuff to experiment with?
I should get out of gacha games..
Daily pass + Battlepass giving 124 pulls in polychromes is actually insane for a single patch. Not to mention the actual limited and standard tapes. And i also love how we get so many free boopons that it basically feels like ill never miss out on any new bangboos that come out.
THERE IS NEW NEWS ABOUT MIYABI LEGION!!! 🗣️
@@dannyyahiko where?
im so fckin hyped guys! just 4more hours!!!
is it not in 28 hours? ;-; or does the patch drop at a different time than yanagi?
7 more hours for SEA server
Das crazy, that means i can actually go for yanagi and miyabi with all the polychromes ive saved up since jane
🎉 idol fund is stacked
so I had to look up what Canuto is and apparently it's Howl's Spanish name.
so it's what you get from the scratch cards from the Newsstand.
however, I have no idea how this source calculates 300 here?
from what I can see, you can only expect to receive 5 x 20 per month, or 7 x 20 per patch for 140 polychromes.
with luck it can be more, but it's silly to calculate with that.
please correct me.
Guaranteed m6 miyabi on release with 17k poly? 50/50 be like naw.
I had about that many saved for burnice and I still had to spend to get her m0 not even wengine 💀
M6? Bro 17k poly is about 110 pulls. With no guarantee you'd be lucky to get her at all
@@Rafael-n7nI had like 23k polys for Ceasar had to use all of it just for M0 😂 The rng is no lt with us
17k?!?! Perfect for Ellen's (eventual) rerun
Bros gonna be waiting for a while
@@KaosKamiSan I know, it'll probably be 1.4 or after
@@Franklin_Johanessanoeakers "confirmed" miyabi on 1.4 beta so maybe is after 1.4
SAME I NEED ELLENS RERUN!!
@@Skeebster fr bro 😭
Can't wait, lets all get what we want this patch.
Yessss let's 17k let's goooooooooo
I got exactly 0 pulls starting this update, Since imma skip yanagi HARD I'll see how many pulls I can save for lighters and maybe the lil fox lady
Miyabi funds 🔥
I'll be at 37k polychromes by the end of 1.3
Is this game even fun for you? I’m trying to understand the people that pull for “long awaited characters”
@ginpachi1 I enjoy it, yeah. Skipping a whole patch is something you gotta do sometimes if you're not interested in certain characters. I did pull for both burnice and caesar this patch and qingyi before that so its not like I've been hording since day one.
@@ginpachi1 yes it is fun
It’s crazy that 17k still isn’t enough 😭 but I’m still forever grateful thank you hoyo
❌: polychromes
✅: pully-crumbs
Well if I don't get Yanagi before getting the rest of Billy's cinema which I only need 3 more then I have him at M6 then I'll save for Miyabi and Harumasa. Probably. XD
I currently have 3000 in my account after Burnice. So if I skip 1.3 (one month) I can get this amount, at the least. Currently I don't have enough ways to get more since I maxed out all of the things to do in game. x_X
Even mini games ? And hidden commissions?
@@black_sinister DONE game is dry. Trying the acheievements now.
Pull out that credit card or quit the game this ain't know free to play friendly game, well no gasha game is
Pretty much guarantees me Miyabi
What are the total polychromes/pulls per banner? I'm going all in on Yanagi.
Me with 110 pulls rn: 17,000 YOU SAY 😏😏
In total i will have 400+ pulls and i want to get miyabi yanagi and harumasa? (Was that his name), wish me luck (in case your wondering, no, i did not pull for anyone, that is why i have so many).
always make my pull on the start of the new banner and it hasn't failed me too much so far
but Yanagi I might have to juice every event possible to get enough pull for her and the wengine
bruh i cant stop jamming to the beat and it aint even allat
What's Canuto?
17,000 PULLS?!
So yanagi will be last pull for me then I'm gonna skip other until miyabi came out
Not enough for an average player sadly. Maybe for people who play everyday it’s nice
? Ima be real the time investment daily is like 5 minutes. Thats spending energy which you dont need to do so it takes 1 minute to get daily polychrome.
For spending energy you can do when you have time.
5 star Billy funds ❤
I always lose my 5050 at hard pity
but i wanted to swipe tho
I know I'm one guy of 10s of millions, but Hoyo lost me as a customer after 5 banner losses in a row, (one of those being a weapon.) There's a 0% chance I'll keep forking over money just to get robbed lol.
How does one lose 5 banners in a row when pity exists?
50/50 exists mate.
@@whatismylife4106I think he means he didn’t get the character he wanted from the banner cos of 50/50s
@@KaosKamiSan50/50 transfers over to the next banner lol, the dudes lying
Dont think hes couting the guaranteed ones
What’s canuto
That's Naruto's long lost brother
it's Howl's Newsstand. it's the scratch cards.
but I am pretty sure that 300 is wrong here.
should only be 140.
So that is only when are Yanagis and Lighters banners up without Harumasa??
Yes
This will be enough for C0 yanagi for me
How the hell are all of you getting all the polys when im bearly getting like a 3rd or half of what theyre giving us. Where are the rest locked behind ?