Thank you for doing all this work to make sense of Dawn of Ragnarok! The time for the mythological veil to be lifted completely is long overdue. Or at least start showing much more of a conversion into how things actually looked and functioned with the Isu than what we see in the main game. The longer they refuse to do this, the more overcomplicated and damaging to the integrity of the Isu lore will become.
Ha, thank you for appreciating our work! I also believe it's time to show the actual events, but they're likely not doing it because not a lot of fans are actually interested in the Isu as they actually are (save from the hardcore fans of course) But yeah, like you said, this way of dealing with the Isu narrative is absolutely complicated and damages this side of the lore so much.
I personally think that the Norse mythology wrapping added more flavor to the Isu storyline in the main plot precisely because we had concrete information on some of the elements from the previous games that helped make the cultural filter more believable. This DLC as presented failed to address this point.
I am thinking about which Pantheon and areas of the World could correspond to the 8 Worlds (So excluding Midgard). Asgard: Norse Pantheon in North-Central Europe Jotun: Greco-Roman Pantheon in the Mediterranean (Southern Europe) and North America Muspel: Egyptian Pantheon in Northern Africa And these we can consider certain Svartalfaheimr: The Kingdom of the Dwarves, the map has been identified as Turkey so I would say the whole Middle Eastern area with the Pantheon of those areas (Mesopotamians and Persians for example) Alfheimr: Kingdom of the Elves destroyed by Surtr that for a geographical question with an invasion passing through the Strait of Gibraltar and then going up again, I think we can identify with the regions of European Celtic culture (and relative gods) with Balor the invader and his destroying eye associated with the Eye of Ra (Surtr). Vanaheimr: Kingdom of the Vani homeland of Freiya, I would associate them with the Hindu Pantheon with India and all of South East Asia, perhaps because even in their mythology there was a war between two divine factions (Asura vs Deva). Niflheimr: Here there should be the Ice Giants and not in Jotun, perhaps the exchange is due to geographical proximity with these Isu being of the Central-South American Pantheon and therefore bordering on the Jotuns of North America Hel: Only Japan is missing including China and the Far East with Hela as Izanami. One thing does the Juno of Assassin's Creed not seem to be associated with Isis, the sorceress goddess (So Isu Scientist) who wants to bring her beloved back to life (Osiris / Aita)?
I have a small theory, Reda being Isu and wanting Opal, which is a form of silica makes so much sense. Opal became famous in the Roman era and Reda used drachmae from Bayek to purchase it from them??? Maybe that's how he stays alive by powering his Isu cloak like the one in Syndicate for long. Silica is found majorly as sand, and what if the North African Isu exhausted sandy beaches and were looking for more sandy places? Obviously it makes sense that we find a lot in Egypt. Perhaps they invaded another sandy region, which is not hot or dry so not Middle East, maybe Spain and Portugal. Idk if it makes much sense and maybe I'm high.
That's a pretty good theory Rohit! Don't expect the devs to go into such detail for the MTX character but it'd be pretty cool to see why Reda needs the opals specifically
When Shaun was talking to Layla in elevator about energy used by Isu, I thought that they were using some kind of tectonic energy (maybe via Seismic Temples from Rouge) and then transmit it around world. Something like Tesla's ideas for wireless power transfer. And that's why all pieces of eden works for so long time. But now, after DoR I'm not so sure about this.
>Obviously it makes sense that we find a lot in Egypt Not really. Egypt was a green place in ancient era (and middle east was full of swamps). But it makes this theory even more interesting. In 3900 B.C. there was an aridification event which made North Africa a desert as we know it today and forced the population to migrate into the delta of Nile. So maybe North-African Isu destroyed their ecosystem in pursuit of resources and profit and now conquering their neighbours.
thank you so much for your videos and analysis, i have been very much looking forward for your analysis for this dlc. loved this video! bring on the rest!
You're welcome Brian! It was a labor of love, that's for sure, but I enjoyed prepping the video a lot and so many of you asked for it! The next episodes will come soon! Hopefully a new one end of next week? We'll see...
Theory on Baldur's immunity to everything: He has some sort of genetic immunity and regeneration, but when exposed to mistle-berry, and its unique compounds, the immunity turns itself into a form of cancer that will retroactively harm him
You know... maybe it's just me but I'd find it SO MUCH cooler to play the Isu sections in all their Sci fi badass glory instead of a "Fantasy veil" the Isu have also been a badass part of Assassin's creed & the "Mythical lense" is really ruining them!
I was way off, I thought the dwarves were humans. Also, a little research, I think Svartlheim was the pacific islands. If you think about it, they are made from volcanos and feature a TON of quartz, which is the crystalized form of silica. Obviously, the North African Isu valued this mineral, so invading there would make sense. It would also make sense that they would need flying ships to get to all the islands. This is just my head canon, though.
I completed the DLC two days ago, except for the arena, and I’m very happy you’re already making a video analysis. I could only come up with a couple of ideas, and those aren’t of help. Surtr is probably immortal due to some “elven” technology he obtained at the time of the attack on Alfheim. If Brokkr described it as a light in the end, can Baldr’s light be an effect of a similar technology? Elves were annihilated after the war between Aesir and Vanir, so Bladr was born before their extinction. In nordic mythology there are dark elves and/or dwarves in Svartalfheim, we don’t even know if they are two different species or the same. I believe the idea in the DLC is that elves inhabitated the area in ancient times before leaving (or something else), then the dwarves made it their home. This would explain why there are those kind of artifacts in the region.
And if the salakar is able to retrieve the “soul” of someone already dead, as Odin suggested to Juno, is it possible for Loki to use it to bring his family back together?
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Hello, I just finished this dlc. I likes it. Lots of hidden messages/themes in it. I especially apprecated this norse mythology dive. But I can understand the frustration that the isuparts are difficult to detect.
I had a theory while playing the DLC about vagueness. It really stood out and I think they intentionally did that to provide a Tolkien-esque treatment of the story, that is, incomplete information is provided an answer with another incomplete information, which allows for further world-building while keeping the attention of the receiver. It does have some adverse effects though, especially considering we are trying to draw some parallels. From a storytelling perspective though, it does what it's supposed to do. And considering the connection between Norse mythology to Tolkien's work, it's not very far off.
Yes, I understand what you mean, and it could work for a story of its own, but - in my opinion - not when you're supposed to understand what happened in the actual events behind this mythological facade, especially considering that in the future there might be some more story bits building off of this vagueness.
I agree. The Tolkien feel was strong here. The old english storytelling included. I liked this story rhat went deep into norse mythology. And the message I take from all this. No matter how much you try to escape your fate, you will only male it worse and in that pursuit be responsible for the downfall. This blind pursue of odin/the isu to avoid doom closer it came.
@Access The Animus Good initial analysis. Please familiarize yourself more regarding the poetic edda of the Norse myths. The beginning of the DLC informs players that Dawn of Ragnarok is closely tied to the Poetic edda and lore. Looking forward to watching more of the analysis.
I have an idea about Reda, didn't the staff of Hermes Trismegistus give Cassandra some kind of immortality? I think it could be possible, that Reda wields a similar piece or shard of Eden, granting him immortality and youth. For example the norse godess Idunn was granted eternal youth, I think Reda is using some similar technology. Just think about it.
Maybe Darby has said before that the Egyptian gods are their own faction of ISU while the Romans gods are Canon over the Greek ones(only shown to not fry Kassandras brain) same with the Asgardian ISU
@@craftingranger7552 dunno, I figured it be kinda interesting to tie in all 3 factions in together in the 3rd game. Egyptian, Greek/Roman, and Norse gods together considering that Ra was a fiery sun god and leader of those isu.
Haha! We had the same discussion in our streams and I'm also seeing that in some chats here and there on social media. It's not a bad idea - but the games themselves still have to confirm that the Muspels are actually located in North Africa...
The bracer is just a tech and maybe some of the fire giants that throw fire at you are machines, and so he's taking that tech and using it against them same for the jotuns, as for being a bird, that probably just some air vehicle he summons with the bracer that happens to be bird shaped?
Yeah, it is indeed just tech as everything else and I love your suggestions ❤️ Once I had recorded and started editing I also thought there could be some tech variations to explain this but it's still a little too vague, I'm not even sure that there are any database entries explaining all that.
@@AccessAnimus I think the Dwarves are Humans who were used to mass produce pieces of eden(maybe for the Isu wars?) and that where they live in Vinland. I'm assuming it was once ruled by the same Isu who controlled Eden but abandoned it when the Humans revolution. Also Juno spending her time there as the catastrophe begins would also make sense, she needed to inject herself into the temple and then the gray. Good video haha even for a mythological nerd this was way to much for me.
It took me quite some time, I'll admit! But I had to try and wrap my head around the whole story, now I should slightly faster on all the other episodes! (Keyword being should *cough cough*)
I really think the dwarfs are at some level actually humans, what made me think of this was actually a side quest that showed that a dwarf had befriended a raven and could see through it's eyes, just like the assassins do, i do recognize that the dwarves seem very intelligent by human standards but we have to take notice to the fact that they only do things when the other species, aka the isu, ask them to, so, this could be interpreted as a metaphor for how the isu enslaved the humans and made them build things for them
Great analysis. I can feel the frustration in your voice. I don’t think Ubisoft cares about story driven fans (me) anymore. I’ll probably still keep buying their books, comics, games, etc. though in hopes that they’ll get back to a linear story with a main character (and villain) that is actually someone people can like.
Yep, there is some frustration in here, and there will be some more rants coming, but there is also some ok to good (but still vague) stuff in there, will try to put some spotlight on that too in the future videos!
@@AccessAnimus most vedios that i saw feel same frustration. The story isn't important anymore 😪 the money and how to get it. As for me I think it's a waste of time, and it shows that the developers did a very poor job at writing such a story. No one knows why or who or even when. It's like several stories got mashed up and here we're with such a mess. I've got some point I'd like you to comment on them • odin caused the toba catastrophe • the salakar tides somehow to the previous salvation methods one involving constructing towers the other using the collective conscious of poeple and several peaces of Eden to harness such power to protect the world. • what surtr was trying to do was creating his own method to save his realm. Not trying to steal baldr's power to become stronger that's make no sense he's unkillable before baldr or svartalfhiem invasion. • I'd like to know fenrir real form and where he'd imprisoned if you know any concept art about that or some ideas. • the elves for me are some aliens that populated earth and created the isu. The isu behaved the same way humans do they are no better. Odin residence asgard is a floating city gaint space ship. What lead me to such idea the builder an isu engineer why sent an engineer spy and after it odin talked about the shadow of the builder betrayal as it has sometthing to do with the city's defences. The bifrost is a teleportation method and the only way to get in or out asgard. Just like snmara teleports through lava ponds that's make sense. •reda is not an immortal but rather let's just say product of an experiment like a machine creating a human body, and download a conscious created by isu his job to scout the lands and gather information plus keep an eye on several pieces of Eden. •last I think abstergo is not a templer front, but an isu front controlled and monitored by isu faction that survived the toba and rebuilding there society in secret, reda is an example. Instead of revealing themselves let the humans work for us like the slaves they are and we ripe the fruits of thier labor.
I'm actually of the camp that having a singular overarching Villian holds the developers hostage. Instead of telling the story about the Modern Day assassins trying to learn as much about isu as possible to gain an advantage, the games will devolve into a singular Boogeyman. The Lore is so much better then one singular linear story could ever be
I think the hugr bracer is just a new price if isu tech because like you said I spent hour trying to figure out what it could be and the only thing that came close to it’s power was the tribal drink from the AC3 dlc. It makes sense seeing all the new tech shown throughout Odyssey
So the city of Eitri, where the North African Isu settled, seems to be at the doorstep of the Greco-Roman Isu. Is Eitri located at the site of modern day Istanbul? The Svartalfheim map looks kind of like Turkey as well.
The ending was extremely abrupt. I wish e.g. Odin was rescued in the first scene by rogue jotun, muspels disagreeing with the invasion and collaborating with dwarfes. That woud give the game more reality and avoid this weird scene where Odin is spared. So many missed opportunities
Yep, the ending felt abrupt to almost every fan I've seen commenting on this :P And yeah, there was a visible lack of depth in the interactions, though it's a DLC so there wasn't too much to expect in that department imho
@@AccessAnimus they must continue this, because i see no other way. This is unacceptable. The graphics team made yet another amazing world and the other teams disappointed.
I think the only thing I can add to this analysis is that the elves may not have been isu but another race of beings with an even greater understanding of the spectrums the isu had with even more spectrums to add
Thanks for the amazing videos. just had a question which may sound silly. Where did we get to know that which realm is the counterpart to which isu ? for eg. greco-roman etc ?
@@maeglin9252 Yep, while the "North African" Isu come from a social media comment by Narrative Director Darby McDevitt (which, admittedly, it's not canon in itself, but it'll have to do for now)
now imagine that Reda a tiny peasent managed to avoid Ragnarok and Odin, Juno, Jupiter and the rest of the Isu DIDN'T Who comes up with these ideas at Ubi?????????
U brefely mention that sutur is the comander not only of the musphels, but the jotuns as well, there is dialogues and texts around the game that point the jotuns in svalteheim is more likeli being groups of Mercenaries and thiefs, taking the oportunitie of the war, Rikr for example, the chief of the jotun scouts we seeing the game terrorizing the dwarves, is looking for the Hriedmar amor set, as we can read into some texts in Hriedmar tomb, the armor was orinaly there, but after the Steal atempt, looks like the dwarves move the pieces tô the treasure hiddeout, is good consider this in some Future análise And u guys still calling the musphels as 'noth african isu' even If isnt any evidence in game that suport that, If there is some in the Future novels, ok, but at the time the only texts that sugest that is a tweet And there is a texts in Ac Black flag that sujests the bagdah lantern was a "time cristal" device that Works like a batery based in Isu tecnology, "time cristals" is a real life metamaterial that resseachers point that Cam provide energy, when the game talk about sílica and its reffinament, i think its talking about the " Isu time cristals" and its production Anyway, thanks for the work 🙌🏻
@@orfa4973 yeah, but until Its referênced in game lore, some info must bê treated with a grain of Salt, this was Saided Very early on the game life, before darby get out and back again in Ubisoft, and some históry details could change before apearing in lore for real
Hey Dabota! You are very precise in what you are saying and it's true, I mentioned that Surtr is leading both armies in the context part of the video to give a general idea, as it was said in the marketing campaign (and in the CGI trailer) but it's true that within the DLC there's no direct implication that the Jotnar are also working for Surtr. Surely Suttungr's / Jupiter's spies are not. Also yeah, I agree that calling them "North African Isu" is not properly correct because the game and the DLC never allude to that, so technically they could be located anywhere else, and a confirmation outside of the game is not part of the canon anyway. The reason why I'm calling them that is that I don't want to call them Muspels or any other mythological names, especially when trying to explain the story behind the mythological coating. I know it's not ideal, but I'm trying my best not to use words like "dwarves", "elves", "muspels", "jotnar", "Svartalfheim", magic etc. cause they are not part of the AC story and lore, and sometimes I have to make do :D As for the Baghdad Battery, I intentionally omitted that because I want to add that in another video not connected to DoR - whenever that might come out :P
@@AccessAnimus yeah, i realy want to give properly locations tô these groups based on the norse mithology as well, but the evidences pointing where in the world theses groups have setled is Very scarse, maybe its better call then by names assossiate with theyr leaders, like "Odin faction isu' or " surtur faction isu'", maybe this way, It can avoid some missunderstood in the Future
Actually there was a final dlc planned for valhalla but ubi has changed their mind and will make it a stand-alone game in future with basim as it's lead. This game might have told eivor's fate.
@@capnpeace5988 I think the game is still getting a 4th dlc but it'll either be free(like the crossover) or be accessible if you bought the season pass or Dawn of Ragnorok. We are still in season 5 of the game and the game files mention there being 7 so the game will be supported until atleast October of this year.
@@capnpeace5988 I doubt they will finish Eivor's story. I do not know why.. Another point, they need to finish Hilderan's story and the Tombs of the Fallen.
I’d like to know why Eivor left a literally in open war English Kingdoms to help Francia find some peace… still makes fucking no sense!! Mercia was literally a battle ground, and she’s there like “right Odo, how can I help?”
"I wonder... could it really be what I think it is?" Maybe the tower is the Grand Temple, because there is no other known Isu Tower that suggests a sentence like that.
Why do you think Reda didn’t appear to Kassandra in assassin’s Creed odyssey? And if you think in someway Hermes also survived the catastrophe, because he delivered himself the staff to Pytagoras.
So, what did Loki mentor Reda in? Probably how to reincarnate using the 7th method of salvation. The name Reda is Arabic and it means, "favored by God", of which Loki is one.
On the hugr rip i thought it might be something like an adaptor maybe some of the enemies had some tech to do things similar to the powers i mean we already know the isu had teleportation tech for example the eagle transformation could be as simple as him summoning a small flying vehicle could also say the reason odin is able to disguise himself as jotun or musple is maybe they have some kind of war suits to protect themselves from extreme environments possibly nanotech suits maybe the reason you have the time limit on the powers is cause the "hugr" is basically like the battery to the hugr rip and it is forcefully overriding the tech so odin can use it think like the id locks on guns in mgs4 presumably cause those are piece's of equipment that they specifically made and didn't want to fall into enemy hands the reason they wouldn't need them on stuff like swords of eden is cause everyone had those unlike there specific tech hell another thing maybe the reason for social stealth is maybe some form of holographic tech to disguise as someone or something else maybe could explain some of the powers from unity or multiplayer maybe stuff like the disguise power are based on some isu tech abstergo found (possibly damaged would explain why they don't last as long as the jotun seem to)
Yep, I might have mentioned it somewhere else in the comments, there are indeed some viable "tech options" to explain the bracer (I just didn't think of any of those before locking the dubbing of the video :P). I would have loved to see even just some hints about them but...
Nah, that part with Hyrrokin was mostly to reveal that Odin effectively initiated Ragnarok. The fact that Loki broke free from his imprisonment and had already started getting his family ready for the final conflict during Odin's absence wouldn't give much time for a whole extra chapter. If you recall, the Animus Anomaly message where Loki gets incarcerated and released from Asgardian captivity occurs not too long before the one where the Great Catastrophe hits.
That was my reading as well. I don't recall how they're referred to in AC:Odyssey/Atlantis, but I thought it was something like humans were starting to do their own things instead of following instructions? A group of humans using Isu tech to build things the Isu couldn't dream of (because they have different world views) is my thought.
Love the annoyed and passive aggressive tone. Yea this whole story was just not that developed. It could’ve been so great with basim as a voice to give more context.
Eh, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do 😅 I wanted to express my discontent on the story aspects I disliked, and sometimes I had to rant 😛 And the outline for episode 2 already has more of that so...
@@AccessAnimus rant away bc we should address mediocre choices. The connections to the Isu storyline could’ve been so great in learning more about their society in real time. But no more emphasis on mythological aspects
@@AccessAnimus it’s a little unfair to be mad at Ubisoft for this one. I looked it up to double check, but it seems most experts agree that dark elves and dwarves are the same beings. In the Prose Edda, the sons of Ivaldi are said to be Svartalfr, or the dark elves.
Theory 1. Reda is a Dwarf Isu who might appear in the modern day working with Basim & Aletheia. We kind of saw his scheming side in the DLC. 2. Reda is using an Isu artifact (his scarf probably) to make himself immortal (similar to the Staff of Hermes Tristmisgistus) 3. The Salakar and The Mead are what made Aita a Sage. The Mead allows one reincarnation while the Salakar allows many reincarnations. 4. Odin gave Juno the Salakar because he doesn't know how to use it while Juno does as she is one of the Isu's best scientists. 5. Odin loved Frigg, Baldr, Thor, and Heimdall as his family. He has a good friendship with Freyja and many Aesir. 6. Odin is a good ruler to the point that his Isu and human slaves come to respect him (ex. Ivaldi). The Aesir Isu scientists are willing to die for him. 7. However, Odin is a selfish Isu which led to the Aesir Isu to be hated by other Isu Nations (Greco-Romans, Egyptian, etc. ) 8. The Hindu Isu are actually part of the Greco-Roman Isu sect. There are many similarities with Greco-Roman & Hindu Myths. 9. Nine Realms equals to nine different Isu nations across the world. 10. AC Origins, AC Odyssey, AC Valhalla is a trilogy that focuses on the Isu. The mysterious race both Assassins & Templars sought to learn. 11. AC Valhalla pretty much ended the Isu mystery. Now we can refocus on the Assassin-Templar war as Basim declared.
Good 👍. Here's mine. Reda is a semi sage artificial human that grown in lab and live for certain age , then dies after that another reda takes over with the memories of the previous one. Think of it as a cloning machine with super computer like yggdrasil. 2. Surtr was trying to save his realm alone that's why he built the tower and activated the salakar, these two methods are similar to aura boriales towers that protects earth, and harnessing the collective conscious of a group using a piece of Eden. That's 2 methods surtr was trying to fusing them together to get his favored result. Odin lived in a floating city which only can be reached through teleportation or bifrost. Odin caused ragnarok by sabotaging the mechanism killing surtr and weaked or demenished earth magnatic force temporarily that's make sense with what I said earlier. The elves ancient and older than isu with knowledge even the isu not familiar with. In my opinion they're aliens that settled on earth eons ago and created humanoids who take over the world after their numbers dwindled. The isu similar to human They wasted their lives waging war killing each other and playing God the same way human do they are no better
Ok so the whole entirety of Assassins Creed is supposed to be real I can see where people would get confused but why can’t it all just be all myth and not meant to tie to the real world. It is a video game about assassins and people diving into a supped up Alexa device to travel back into time through memories. It doesn’t have to make sense and it never will cause I believe that’s what the creators are doing. 🤘😁🖤
Shouldn't it make more sense that jotuns were the Norse isu instead of aesir? Because Norse were taller than Greeks-Roman's and they lived in far colder climates than the latter...i mean this makes more sense to me but you know... Ubisoft
They weren’t actual frost giants they were just a group of Isu and as far as I know Jotunheim is in North America so probably the snow in Jotunheim are just what Eivor thinks about it so I don’t think they have anything to do with cold temperatures.
It is stated almost directly that Jotuns are the Greek-Roman gods. There's a scene from AC2 recreated in Jotunheim dlc from POV of the Isu where minerva talks to Desmond/Ezio.
Potentially, yeah. I'm using the naming "North African Isu" because Darby McDevitt hinted at that on social media, but there still isn't a full in-game confirmation for that yet. But yeah, if this is actually the Egyptian "pantheon" or "caste", Surtr could be the same Isu that led humans to the deification of Amon or Ra
First of all I like that silica from Origins is propably Libyan Desert Glass (tektite) or something connected to it. Collecting minerals is one of my hobby so I appreciated this part of lore. And now Ubisoft used it again. This time as important resource that Isu fight for (it reminds me conflicts about oil).
I lol'd a bit. I would say that there are people and devs that care about the games and DLC in general, but sometimes when devs receive a mandate from up high to do a piece of content set in a specific setting... well, they can do their best with what they do. In this case I wouldn't know where the issue lied tho... But the end product is right there in front of everyone.
I’m really not a fan of Reda being an Isu. I much preferred the theory that he was an Egyptian boy who was given a Shroud by Bayek, which enabled him to live a long time. Him as an Isu just raises too many questions.
The dlc is soooo far from an assassin’s creed title, at least the Atlantis dlc in odyssey they directly stated that the characters were isu , I felt like I was playing elden ring the whole time
Thanks for the video. I had the bad feeling that this DLC would not add much to the story of both Eivor and Odin, but apparently is even worse than that also "lore"wise. Yet another more of the same dlc... I am starting to get really REALLY scared by Infinity, if this is what we can expect
Personally I liked this dlc. Eivor sort of know/accept ragnarok. The final days and that it is ok to know fear and live fully each day. Because you can't be sure when you meet your doom/death.
Wow, so even you didn't enjoy this, heck seeing you actually defend the Asgard and Jotunheim arcs makes DoR seem to bad in comparison. Well regardless, thanks for putting in the work for this.
Ha, well, being a hardcore fan doesn't necessarily mean enjoying everything the brand releases. Actually, it can be the opposite at times :P But yeah, in terms of story - not the gameplay, the gameplay is good - in my opinion this is the second worst DLC of the franchise in my opinion. Because nothing. NOTHING. Can beat Legacy of the First Blade.
@@AccessAnimus I'm aware, it is just after seeing most AC fans denounce the Asgard/Jotunheim arcs as "not AC" it was nice to see someone ACTUALLY understand those two arcs. So the fact that even you, someone who defended those two controversial arcs, disliked this so much simply cemented to me that this was botched, lol.
As always, Ubisoft manages to screw up with another story that had the potential to be one of the best in the franchise. 2:03 Was the Raven Clan mantle always like this? or the new mythical category changes the appearance as well? It's looking more golden than usual
Oh really? That is super interesting actually, maybe there is indeed some hint in there (though his name was introduced in 2017 where I don't believe they had plans for him becoming an Isu in 2022 :P)
Reda as Anansi? A trickster, learning all the tricks from a trickster (Loki), using those tricks to safely avoid catastrophe, finds a quiet horde of lesser Isu artifacts (and tattoos, and settlement decor, and ship styles), and rides out every week or so with a cart full of things, pulling strings to ensure his chosen warriors are well supported? Just my late night theory, but I really hope we start to get Reda hints in the next game/dlc/I don't know the AC roadmap.
I once saw an Ac Infinity leak that said its going to have a modern day hub world and if thats true i have a prediction wich i think is pretty likley to come true Im calling it that Reda will return as the mtx store guy and he will be in the modern day hub but this time he will just have modern day clothes
Ha, they were able to find a way to have the same MTX character across time... - I wonder if having a recognizable character can make players more inclined to buy MTX :P
Honestly when it comes to the magical elements it could revolve around technology. You just need to think outside of the box. After all we don't know all the technology that the Isu developed, we only know of a few that can alter the battlefield and control minds not to mention the power sources outside of that we don't really know what else they could possibly do.
Sure you could excuse it, but that doesn't change the fact you have to go out of your way to excuse it. It should be believable in the world if you have to make an excuse to suspend your disbelief that highlights how unbelievable it is. Why do you think they made the mythological veil, to begin with? Because what they wanted was so hard to believe in this world they had to create an excuse to make it somewhat believable and even that doesn't work very well. TL;DR that's a poor excuse for bad writing.
@@65firered I see your point and honestly I agree with that full heartedly. It's just I'm mostly don't care cuz they're only three things I care about in video games. Being op, a good story and character development. Anything outside of that just adds to the experience, besides I think they developers stopped caring about the lore a long time ago.
@@arthurcreatio7798 For me what drew me into Assassin's Creed was the interesting world, the lore, the characters, the stealth-action gameplay. Pretty much all of that is gone. You're supposed to be an OP badass in AC but like Rambo, a one-man army and a ghost, not a demi-God. I don't entirely blame the developers for this though. Reports on the inner workings of Ubisoft show that a few executives are responsible for this and directly interfere with development, going as far as actively restructuring the game to match their personal taste against the developers and creative directors' vision.
@@65firered which makes sense considering recently a lot of the titles that have been going on have been steering more and more away from the lore of the universe and the history that's supposed to be tied to the world of the game which is supposed to be all world but altered in a lot of ways. Here's hoping the current... Paradigm and return form. Hell if they want the spice up things in a different way that doesn't revolve around demigods and such they could literally give us more playing as a Templar or at least seeing things from their side.
@@arthurcreatio7798 Yeah, where's my Haythem game!? Honestly, I don't see a retired to form happening until another Syndicate crashes and burns. I mean they are already fatiguing this new style it's bound to happen.
ATA, thanks for doing this! I just…. Can’t. This game that is just continuously taking a dump on the legacy of AC (btw, go back to Unity and Syndicate; walk around Paris and London, and realise how poor the RPG games are) Between DoR and Elden Ring… I know which one I keep gravitating to
Is it possible that the dwarves represent humans? The biggest clue for me was their enslavement. Also Isu are taller than humans. It could translate. Just a thought.
I've seen a few fans mentioning that. There's also a mention of Odin providing the dwarves with "reason" when they were created and more hints like that. But then again, both the mythological arcs in the main game and the DLC do also mention "Midgard" and the humans that live there. Plus in the Jotunheim arc there are indeed normal sized humans working as slaves for the Jotnar (which mirrors the human working as slaves in the AC2 Truth video), with Odin even commenting on how bad it feels to him that humans are being enslaved. As usual, this is pretty confusing - but I wouldn't expect humans to be able to create Pieces of Eden on their own and being master crafters as the Dwarves are in this DLC
I thought in mythology Freya or "Frigga" only had a Brother called Frigg, not a sister called Frigg.. and Baldr was Odin and Freyas son wasn't he? Not Frigg, who sometimes is said, she is a man. Very confusing I was very confused.. but really loved and enjoyed the dlc
Thank you for doing all this work to make sense of Dawn of Ragnarok! The time for the mythological veil to be lifted completely is long overdue. Or at least start showing much more of a conversion into how things actually looked and functioned with the Isu than what we see in the main game. The longer they refuse to do this, the more overcomplicated and damaging to the integrity of the Isu lore will become.
Ha, thank you for appreciating our work! I also believe it's time to show the actual events, but they're likely not doing it because not a lot of fans are actually interested in the Isu as they actually are (save from the hardcore fans of course)
But yeah, like you said, this way of dealing with the Isu narrative is absolutely complicated and damages this side of the lore so much.
Yes 100%. I want actual Isu lore scenes, what really happened, without the mythological veil.
I personally think that the Norse mythology wrapping added more flavor to the Isu storyline in the main plot precisely because we had concrete information on some of the elements from the previous games that helped make the cultural filter more believable.
This DLC as presented failed to address this point.
I am thinking about which Pantheon and areas of the World could correspond to the 8 Worlds (So excluding Midgard).
Asgard: Norse Pantheon in North-Central Europe
Jotun: Greco-Roman Pantheon in the Mediterranean (Southern Europe) and North America
Muspel: Egyptian Pantheon in Northern Africa
And these we can consider certain
Svartalfaheimr: The Kingdom of the Dwarves, the map has been identified as Turkey so I would say the whole Middle Eastern area with the Pantheon of those areas (Mesopotamians and Persians for example)
Alfheimr: Kingdom of the Elves destroyed by Surtr that for a geographical question with an invasion passing through the Strait of Gibraltar and then going up again, I think we can identify with the regions of European Celtic culture (and relative gods) with Balor the invader and his destroying eye associated with the Eye of Ra (Surtr).
Vanaheimr: Kingdom of the Vani homeland of Freiya, I would associate them with the Hindu Pantheon with India and all of South East Asia, perhaps because even in their mythology there was a war between two divine factions (Asura vs Deva).
Niflheimr: Here there should be the Ice Giants and not in Jotun, perhaps the exchange is due to geographical proximity with these Isu being of the Central-South American Pantheon and therefore bordering on the Jotuns of North America
Hel: Only Japan is missing including China and the Far East with Hela as Izanami.
One thing does the Juno of Assassin's Creed not seem to be associated with Isis, the sorceress goddess (So Isu Scientist) who wants to bring her beloved back to life (Osiris / Aita)?
Ac Mirage is going to be set in the middle east. Maybe there will be some connections between The Dawn of Ragnarok DLC and AC Mirage
I have a small theory, Reda being Isu and wanting Opal, which is a form of silica makes so much sense. Opal became famous in the Roman era and Reda used drachmae from Bayek to purchase it from them??? Maybe that's how he stays alive by powering his Isu cloak like the one in Syndicate for long.
Silica is found majorly as sand, and what if the North African Isu exhausted sandy beaches and were looking for more sandy places? Obviously it makes sense that we find a lot in Egypt.
Perhaps they invaded another sandy region, which is not hot or dry so not Middle East, maybe Spain and Portugal.
Idk if it makes much sense and maybe I'm high.
That's a pretty good theory Rohit! Don't expect the devs to go into such detail for the MTX character but it'd be pretty cool to see why Reda needs the opals specifically
@@AccessAnimus hahaha yeah, gotta make head cannon or it hurts :)
When Shaun was talking to Layla in elevator about energy used by Isu, I thought that they were using some kind of tectonic energy (maybe via Seismic Temples from Rouge) and then transmit it around world. Something like Tesla's ideas for wireless power transfer. And that's why all pieces of eden works for so long time. But now, after DoR I'm not so sure about this.
@@Bufo_Viridis that was a sound theory but yeah now it looks like it's silica
>Obviously it makes sense that we find a lot in Egypt
Not really. Egypt was a green place in ancient era (and middle east was full of swamps). But it makes this theory even more interesting. In 3900 B.C. there was an aridification event which made North Africa a desert as we know it today and forced the population to migrate into the delta of Nile. So maybe North-African Isu destroyed their ecosystem in pursuit of resources and profit and now conquering their neighbours.
It's okay rant away i usually ignore or skip it anyways. This was good and informative video.
Ha! Thank you so much! I will do then!
I swear if reda ends up being the immortal isu I will laugh for days
Loki locked up makes sense now... after mirage
I love assassins creed and love that people like you share the same love for it 🤞🏼 appreciate your work and dedication Brodie
thank you so much for your videos and analysis, i have been very much looking forward for your analysis for this dlc. loved this video! bring on the rest!
You're welcome Brian! It was a labor of love, that's for sure, but I enjoyed prepping the video a lot and so many of you asked for it!
The next episodes will come soon! Hopefully a new one end of next week? We'll see...
I finished the DLC today so hyped to see your analysis to the story 🔥
Hey!
I'm happy we managed to release the first chapter of the analysis right when your finished the DLC!
Theory on Baldur's immunity to everything: He has some sort of genetic immunity and regeneration, but when exposed to mistle-berry, and its unique compounds, the immunity turns itself into a form of cancer that will retroactively harm him
A cancer would be too slow. Maybe some allergy. Allergies can kill you in minutes, depending on how strong they are.
You know... maybe it's just me but I'd find it SO MUCH cooler to play the Isu sections in all their Sci fi badass glory instead of a "Fantasy veil" the Isu have also been a badass part of Assassin's creed & the "Mythical lense" is really ruining them!
I was way off, I thought the dwarves were humans.
Also, a little research, I think Svartlheim was the pacific islands. If you think about it, they are made from volcanos and feature a TON of quartz, which is the crystalized form of silica. Obviously, the North African Isu valued this mineral, so invading there would make sense. It would also make sense that they would need flying ships to get to all the islands. This is just my head canon, though.
I completed the DLC two days ago, except for the arena, and I’m very happy you’re already making a video analysis. I could only come up with a couple of ideas, and those aren’t of help.
Surtr is probably immortal due to some “elven” technology he obtained at the time of the attack on Alfheim. If Brokkr described it as a light in the end, can Baldr’s light be an effect of a similar technology? Elves were annihilated after the war between Aesir and Vanir, so Bladr was born before their extinction.
In nordic mythology there are dark elves and/or dwarves in Svartalfheim, we don’t even know if they are two different species or the same. I believe the idea in the DLC is that elves inhabitated the area in ancient times before leaving (or something else), then the dwarves made it their home. This would explain why there are those kind of artifacts in the region.
And if the salakar is able to retrieve the “soul” of someone already dead, as Odin suggested to Juno, is it possible for Loki to use it to bring his family back together?
Buscando y buscando contenido exactamente como este pero en español y no existe, al menos entiendo un poco el inglés y así disfruto tus vídeos, muy buenos por cierto
Hello, I just finished this dlc. I likes it. Lots of hidden messages/themes in it. I especially apprecated this norse mythology dive. But I can understand the frustration that the isuparts are difficult to detect.
I had a theory while playing the DLC about vagueness. It really stood out and I think they intentionally did that to provide a Tolkien-esque treatment of the story, that is, incomplete information is provided an answer with another incomplete information, which allows for further world-building while keeping the attention of the receiver. It does have some adverse effects though, especially considering we are trying to draw some parallels. From a storytelling perspective though, it does what it's supposed to do. And considering the connection between Norse mythology to Tolkien's work, it's not very far off.
Yes, I understand what you mean, and it could work for a story of its own, but - in my opinion - not when you're supposed to understand what happened in the actual events behind this mythological facade, especially considering that in the future there might be some more story bits building off of this vagueness.
I agree. The Tolkien feel was strong here. The old english storytelling included. I liked this story rhat went deep into norse mythology. And the message I take from all this. No matter how much you try to escape your fate, you will only male it worse and in that pursuit be responsible for the downfall. This blind pursue of odin/the isu to avoid doom closer it came.
@@Max1990Power that was probably the point considering Tolkien was also inspired by Norse myths
Yes, the analysis has arriveth 🙏
It's out at last!!
@Access The Animus Good initial analysis. Please familiarize yourself more regarding the poetic edda of the Norse myths. The beginning of the DLC informs players that Dawn of Ragnarok is closely tied to the Poetic edda and lore.
Looking forward to watching more of the analysis.
I have an idea about Reda, didn't the staff of Hermes Trismegistus give Cassandra some kind of immortality? I think it could be possible, that Reda wields a similar piece or shard of Eden, granting him immortality and youth. For example the norse godess Idunn was granted eternal youth, I think Reda is using some similar technology. Just think about it.
I’m wondering if surtr was Ra in here considering the fact he’s the leader of the North African isu aka the musphels.
Maybe Darby has said before that the Egyptian gods are their own faction of ISU while the Romans gods are Canon over the Greek ones(only shown to not fry Kassandras brain) same with the Asgardian ISU
@@craftingranger7552 dunno, I figured it be kinda interesting to tie in all 3 factions in together in the 3rd game. Egyptian, Greek/Roman, and Norse gods together considering that Ra was a fiery sun god and leader of those isu.
@@jamessmith-hh9wz Minervas explanation of having many names was their way of stating the Greek/Roman gods were exactly the same.
Haha! We had the same discussion in our streams and I'm also seeing that in some chats here and there on social media. It's not a bad idea - but the games themselves still have to confirm that the Muspels are actually located in North Africa...
The bracer is just a tech and maybe some of the fire giants that throw fire at you are machines, and so he's taking that tech and using it against them same for the jotuns, as for being a bird, that probably just some air vehicle he summons with the bracer that happens to be bird shaped?
Yeah, it is indeed just tech as everything else and I love your suggestions ❤️
Once I had recorded and started editing I also thought there could be some tech variations to explain this but it's still a little too vague, I'm not even sure that there are any database entries explaining all that.
@@AccessAnimus I feel the vagueness of it does make it very difficult to understand what is being shown, I was very confused at times while playing
Been waiting for this, so excited!!!
Yaaaassss! Let me know what you think about it when you're done!
@@AccessAnimus I think the Dwarves are Humans who were used to mass produce pieces of eden(maybe for the Isu wars?) and that where they live in Vinland. I'm assuming it was once ruled by the same Isu who controlled Eden but abandoned it when the Humans revolution. Also Juno spending her time there as the catastrophe begins would also make sense, she needed to inject herself into the temple and then the gray. Good video haha even for a mythological nerd this was way to much for me.
Finally...!
It took me quite some time, I'll admit!
But I had to try and wrap my head around the whole story, now I should slightly faster on all the other episodes! (Keyword being should *cough cough*)
I really think the dwarfs are at some level actually humans, what made me think of this was actually a side quest that showed that a dwarf had befriended a raven and could see through it's eyes, just like the assassins do, i do recognize that the dwarves seem very intelligent by human standards but we have to take notice to the fact that they only do things when the other species, aka the isu, ask them to, so, this could be interpreted as a metaphor for how the isu enslaved the humans and made them build things for them
Great analysis. I can feel the frustration in your voice. I don’t think Ubisoft cares about story driven fans (me) anymore. I’ll probably still keep buying their books, comics, games, etc. though in hopes that they’ll get back to a linear story with a main character (and villain) that is actually someone people can like.
Yep, there is some frustration in here, and there will be some more rants coming, but there is also some ok to good (but still vague) stuff in there, will try to put some spotlight on that too in the future videos!
@@AccessAnimus most vedios that i saw feel same frustration. The story isn't important anymore 😪 the money and how to get it. As for me I think it's a waste of time, and it shows that the developers did a very poor job at writing such a story. No one knows why or who or even when. It's like several stories got mashed up and here we're with such a mess. I've got some point I'd like you to comment on them
• odin caused the toba catastrophe
• the salakar tides somehow to the previous salvation methods one involving constructing towers the other using the collective conscious of poeple and several peaces of Eden to harness such power to protect the world.
• what surtr was trying to do was creating his own method to save his realm. Not trying to steal baldr's power to become stronger that's make no sense he's unkillable before baldr or svartalfhiem invasion.
• I'd like to know fenrir real form and where he'd imprisoned if you know any concept art about that or some ideas.
• the elves for me are some aliens that populated earth and created the isu. The isu behaved the same way humans do they are no better.
Odin residence asgard is a floating city gaint space ship. What lead me to such idea the builder an isu engineer why sent an engineer spy and after it odin talked about the shadow of the builder betrayal as it has sometthing to do with the city's defences. The bifrost is a teleportation method and the only way to get in or out asgard. Just like snmara teleports through lava ponds that's make sense.
•reda is not an immortal but rather let's just say product of an experiment like a machine creating a human body, and download a conscious created by isu his job to scout the lands and gather information plus keep an eye on several pieces of Eden.
•last I think abstergo is not a templer front, but an isu front controlled and monitored by isu faction that survived the toba and rebuilding there society in secret, reda is an example. Instead of revealing themselves let the humans work for us like the slaves they are and we ripe the fruits of thier labor.
I'm actually of the camp that having a singular overarching Villian holds the developers hostage. Instead of telling the story about the Modern Day assassins trying to learn as much about isu as possible to gain an advantage, the games will devolve into a singular Boogeyman. The Lore is so much better then one singular linear story could ever be
I think the hugr bracer is just a new price if isu tech because like you said I spent hour trying to figure out what it could be and the only thing that came close to it’s power was the tribal drink from the AC3 dlc. It makes sense seeing all the new tech shown throughout Odyssey
I’ve been waiting for this.
And now it's here at last! Well, at least the first part :D
So the city of Eitri, where the North African Isu settled, seems to be at the doorstep of the Greco-Roman Isu. Is Eitri located at the site of modern day Istanbul? The Svartalfheim map looks kind of like Turkey as well.
I think the Asgardian Tower is a teleportation device, much like the Hermes Towers in Odyssey.
The ending was extremely abrupt. I wish e.g. Odin was rescued in the first scene by rogue jotun, muspels disagreeing with the invasion and collaborating with dwarfes. That woud give the game more reality and avoid this weird scene where Odin is spared. So many missed opportunities
Yep, the ending felt abrupt to almost every fan I've seen commenting on this :P
And yeah, there was a visible lack of depth in the interactions, though it's a DLC so there wasn't too much to expect in that department imho
@@AccessAnimus they must continue this, because i see no other way. This is unacceptable. The graphics team made yet another amazing world and the other teams disappointed.
@@BA-sf4uw i think it will continue. For example now they van focus on basim/loki.
I think the only thing I can add to this analysis is that the elves may not have been isu but another race of beings with an even greater understanding of the spectrums the isu had with even more spectrums to add
Thanks for the amazing videos. just had a question which may sound silly. Where did we get to know that which realm is the counterpart to which isu ? for eg. greco-roman etc ?
Greco-Roman was confirmed in the base game where you hear Ezio’s and Minerva’s conversation.
@@maeglin9252 Yep, while the "North African" Isu come from a social media comment by Narrative Director Darby McDevitt (which, admittedly, it's not canon in itself, but it'll have to do for now)
now imagine that Reda a tiny peasent managed to avoid Ragnarok and Odin, Juno, Jupiter and the rest of the Isu DIDN'T
Who comes up with these ideas at Ubi?????????
Perhaps Reda is being set up as more than a tiny peasant? Maybe he's a surviving Alfheimr resident?
Been waiting for this!
'Tis time at last!
U brefely mention that sutur is the comander not only of the musphels, but the jotuns as well, there is dialogues and texts around the game that point the jotuns in svalteheim is more likeli being groups of Mercenaries and thiefs, taking the oportunitie of the war, Rikr for example, the chief of the jotun scouts we seeing the game terrorizing the dwarves, is looking for the Hriedmar amor set, as we can read into some texts in Hriedmar tomb, the armor was orinaly there, but after the Steal atempt, looks like the dwarves move the pieces tô the treasure hiddeout, is good consider this in some Future análise
And u guys still calling the musphels as 'noth african isu' even If isnt any evidence in game that suport that, If there is some in the Future novels, ok, but at the time the only texts that sugest that is a tweet
And there is a texts in Ac Black flag that sujests the bagdah lantern was a "time cristal" device that Works like a batery based in Isu tecnology, "time cristals" is a real life metamaterial that resseachers point that Cam provide energy, when the game talk about sílica and its reffinament, i think its talking about the " Isu time cristals" and its production
Anyway, thanks for the work 🙌🏻
@@orfa4973 yeah, but until Its referênced in game lore, some info must bê treated with a grain of Salt, this was Saided Very early on the game life, before darby get out and back again in Ubisoft, and some históry details could change before apearing in lore for real
@@orfa4973 yeah, but If the source of what u have is a sentence from a developper in Reddit, Sorry, but u have nothing until stablished in game lore
Hey Dabota!
You are very precise in what you are saying and it's true, I mentioned that Surtr is leading both armies in the context part of the video to give a general idea, as it was said in the marketing campaign (and in the CGI trailer) but it's true that within the DLC there's no direct implication that the Jotnar are also working for Surtr. Surely Suttungr's / Jupiter's spies are not.
Also yeah, I agree that calling them "North African Isu" is not properly correct because the game and the DLC never allude to that, so technically they could be located anywhere else, and a confirmation outside of the game is not part of the canon anyway. The reason why I'm calling them that is that I don't want to call them Muspels or any other mythological names, especially when trying to explain the story behind the mythological coating.
I know it's not ideal, but I'm trying my best not to use words like "dwarves", "elves", "muspels", "jotnar", "Svartalfheim", magic etc. cause they are not part of the AC story and lore, and sometimes I have to make do :D
As for the Baghdad Battery, I intentionally omitted that because I want to add that in another video not connected to DoR - whenever that might come out :P
@@AccessAnimus yeah, i realy want to give properly locations tô these groups based on the norse mithology as well, but the evidences pointing where in the world theses groups have setled is Very scarse, maybe its better call then by names assossiate with theyr leaders, like "Odin faction isu' or " surtur faction isu'", maybe this way, It can avoid some missunderstood in the Future
thanks i was waiting for this
Ah wow, thank you so much for having such expectations!
I would like to know why Eivor was buried in Vinland, if she exiled herself there or not, but Ubi did not did this.
Sorry by bad English
Actually there was a final dlc planned for valhalla but ubi has changed their mind and will make it a stand-alone game in future with basim as it's lead. This game might have told eivor's fate.
@@capnpeace5988 I think the game is still getting a 4th dlc but it'll either be free(like the crossover) or be accessible if you bought the season pass or Dawn of Ragnorok. We are still in season 5 of the game and the game files mention there being 7 so the game will be supported until atleast October of this year.
@@capnpeace5988 I doubt they will finish Eivor's story. I do not know why..
Another point, they need to finish Hilderan's story and the Tombs of the Fallen.
@@orfa4973 Or who knows, an old Eivor.
I would like to play as Odin as an old Eivor with grey hair and everything.
I’d like to know why Eivor left a literally in open war English Kingdoms to help Francia find some peace… still makes fucking no sense!!
Mercia was literally a battle ground, and she’s there like “right Odo, how can I help?”
CI SIAMO! inizia lo spettacolo
Sei veramente troppo buono Mario ❤️
"I wonder... could it really be what I think it is?" Maybe the tower is the Grand Temple, because there is no other known Isu Tower that suggests a sentence like that.
There are the 4 towers from one of the failed methods of salvation mentioned in AC3 and Valhalla though 👀
Why do you think Reda didn’t appear to Kassandra in assassin’s Creed odyssey? And if you think in someway Hermes also survived the catastrophe, because he delivered himself the staff to Pytagoras.
Good work. Put together well.
Thank you so much!
So, what did Loki mentor Reda in?
Probably how to reincarnate using the 7th method of salvation. The name Reda is Arabic and it means, "favored by God", of which Loki is one.
On the hugr rip i thought it might be something like an adaptor maybe some of the enemies had some tech to do things similar to the powers i mean we already know the isu had teleportation tech for example the eagle transformation could be as simple as him summoning a small flying vehicle could also say the reason odin is able to disguise himself as jotun or musple is maybe they have some kind of war suits to protect themselves from extreme environments possibly nanotech suits maybe the reason you have the time limit on the powers is cause the "hugr" is basically like the battery to the hugr rip and it is forcefully overriding the tech so odin can use it think like the id locks on guns in mgs4 presumably cause those are piece's of equipment that they specifically made and didn't want to fall into enemy hands the reason they wouldn't need them on stuff like swords of eden is cause everyone had those unlike there specific tech hell another thing maybe the reason for social stealth is maybe some form of holographic tech to disguise as someone or something else maybe could explain some of the powers from unity or multiplayer maybe stuff like the disguise power are based on some isu tech abstergo found (possibly damaged would explain why they don't last as long as the jotun seem to)
Yep, I might have mentioned it somewhere else in the comments, there are indeed some viable "tech options" to explain the bracer (I just didn't think of any of those before locking the dubbing of the video :P). I would have loved to see even just some hints about them but...
I think Reda’s orange scarf is a Shroud Of Eden like in Syndicate 👀
Eivor becomes Odin right?
21:17 imagine if reda is the last isu boss fight to get some new transactions if we win
.... Can't wait
Wow I wish the game was as good as the explanation
Ah wow, you flatter us too much ❤️
So who are the Isu people? I don't find material from all Isu peoples, I know there are several nations, but how can I distinguish them?
I enjoyed the dlc but despise the Valkyrie arena. The grind for the payoff just isn't worth it.
Will there be a sequel for this DLC? Because the hidden scene with Hyrrokin, tells us important things.
Nah, that part with Hyrrokin was mostly to reveal that Odin effectively initiated Ragnarok. The fact that Loki broke free from his imprisonment and had already started getting his family ready for the final conflict during Odin's absence wouldn't give much time for a whole extra chapter.
If you recall, the Animus Anomaly message where Loki gets incarcerated and released from Asgardian captivity occurs not too long before the one where the Great Catastrophe hits.
I got the vibe actually that the Dwarves were representative of humans rather than Isu.
That was my reading as well. I don't recall how they're referred to in AC:Odyssey/Atlantis, but I thought it was something like humans were starting to do their own things instead of following instructions? A group of humans using Isu tech to build things the Isu couldn't dream of (because they have different world views) is my thought.
Love the annoyed and passive aggressive tone. Yea this whole story was just not that developed. It could’ve been so great with basim as a voice to give more context.
Eh, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do 😅
I wanted to express my discontent on the story aspects I disliked, and sometimes I had to rant 😛
And the outline for episode 2 already has more of that so...
@@AccessAnimus rant away bc we should address mediocre choices. The connections to the Isu storyline could’ve been so great in learning more about their society in real time. But no more emphasis on mythological aspects
@@dennisvelasco6678 I totally agree!
Another theory that I have is that Baldur somehow reincarnated in Jesus Christ. Like odin in eivor and thor in halfdan.
If they spelt everything out, you'd all decry Ubisoft for too much exposition.
There's a lot to be said for nuance.
fun fact svart alf heim simply means black elf home or svart alf hem if spelled in swedish
And there's no black elf in there, nice.
@@AccessAnimus it’s a little unfair to be mad at Ubisoft for this one. I looked it up to double check, but it seems most experts agree that dark elves and dwarves are the same beings. In the Prose Edda, the sons of Ivaldi are said to be Svartalfr, or the dark elves.
Theory
1. Reda is a Dwarf Isu who might appear in the modern day working with Basim & Aletheia. We kind of saw his scheming side in the DLC.
2. Reda is using an Isu artifact (his scarf probably) to make himself immortal (similar to the Staff of Hermes Tristmisgistus)
3. The Salakar and The Mead are what made Aita a Sage. The Mead allows one reincarnation while the Salakar allows many reincarnations.
4. Odin gave Juno the Salakar because he doesn't know how to use it while Juno does as she is one of the Isu's best scientists.
5. Odin loved Frigg, Baldr, Thor, and Heimdall as his family. He has a good friendship with Freyja and many Aesir.
6. Odin is a good ruler to the point that his Isu and human slaves come to respect him (ex. Ivaldi). The Aesir Isu scientists are willing to die for him.
7. However, Odin is a selfish Isu which led to the Aesir Isu to be hated by other Isu Nations (Greco-Romans, Egyptian, etc. )
8. The Hindu Isu are actually part of the Greco-Roman Isu sect. There are many similarities with Greco-Roman & Hindu Myths.
9. Nine Realms equals to nine different Isu nations across the world.
10. AC Origins, AC Odyssey, AC Valhalla is a trilogy that focuses on the Isu. The mysterious race both Assassins & Templars sought to learn.
11. AC Valhalla pretty much ended the Isu mystery. Now we can refocus on the Assassin-Templar war as Basim declared.
Good 👍. Here's mine.
Reda is a semi sage artificial human that grown in lab and live for certain age , then dies after that another reda takes over with the memories of the previous one. Think of it as a cloning machine with super computer like yggdrasil.
2. Surtr was trying to save his realm alone that's why he built the tower and activated the salakar, these two methods are similar to aura boriales towers that protects earth, and harnessing the collective conscious of a group using a piece of Eden. That's 2 methods surtr was trying to fusing them together to get his favored result.
Odin lived in a floating city which only can be reached through teleportation or bifrost.
Odin caused ragnarok by sabotaging the mechanism killing surtr and weaked or demenished earth magnatic force temporarily that's make sense with what I said earlier.
The elves ancient and older than isu with knowledge even the isu not familiar with. In my opinion they're aliens that settled on earth eons ago and created humanoids who take over the world after their numbers dwindled. The isu similar to human They wasted their lives waging war killing each other and playing God the same way human do they are no better
Finally!
YES! Took me some time but it's out!
Ok so the whole entirety of Assassins Creed is supposed to be real I can see where people would get confused but why can’t it all just be all myth and not meant to tie to the real world. It is a video game about assassins and people diving into a supped up Alexa device to travel back into time through memories. It doesn’t have to make sense and it never will cause I believe that’s what the creators are doing. 🤘😁🖤
Shouldn't it make more sense that jotuns were the Norse isu instead of aesir? Because Norse were taller than Greeks-Roman's and they lived in far colder climates than the latter...i mean this makes more sense to me but you know... Ubisoft
They weren’t actual frost giants they were just a group of Isu and as far as I know Jotunheim is in North America so probably the snow in Jotunheim are just what Eivor thinks about it so I don’t think they have anything to do with cold temperatures.
It is stated almost directly that Jotuns are the Greek-Roman gods. There's a scene from AC2 recreated in Jotunheim dlc from POV of the Isu where minerva talks to Desmond/Ezio.
So the muspels might be Egyptian pantheon and surtr might be Ra imo.
Potentially, yeah. I'm using the naming "North African Isu" because Darby McDevitt hinted at that on social media, but there still isn't a full in-game confirmation for that yet.
But yeah, if this is actually the Egyptian "pantheon" or "caste", Surtr could be the same Isu that led humans to the deification of Amon or Ra
@@AccessAnimus then Eden must've been ran by another faction right?
@@orfa4973 But the Greco-Roman Isu must've lived there at some point. We know that because there was statue of Jupiter, Juno and Minerva there.
If it is, then who are the Muspels themselves?
@@mr.midnight23 out of mythological veil muspels might be some type of gods in isu era,just like aesirs are nordic gods,jotuns are greco-roman gods.
Damn, I love silica part xD
Ha! What do you mean? You liked the silica story in the DLC?
First of all I like that silica from Origins is propably Libyan Desert Glass (tektite) or something connected to it. Collecting minerals is one of my hobby so I appreciated this part of lore. And now Ubisoft used it again. This time as important resource that Isu fight for (it reminds me conflicts about oil).
You make it sound like the people behind this DLC actually care about the established AC story.
I lol'd a bit. I would say that there are people and devs that care about the games and DLC in general, but sometimes when devs receive a mandate from up high to do a piece of content set in a specific setting... well, they can do their best with what they do.
In this case I wouldn't know where the issue lied tho... But the end product is right there in front of everyone.
I’m really not a fan of Reda being an Isu. I much preferred the theory that he was an Egyptian boy who was given a Shroud by Bayek, which enabled him to live a long time. Him as an Isu just raises too many questions.
The dlc is soooo far from an assassin’s creed title, at least the Atlantis dlc in odyssey they directly stated that the characters were isu , I felt like I was playing elden ring the whole time
Even in Valhalla they were Isu. But they’re just what eivor thinks about them so stop complaining.
This is a far cry from an Adam and Eve game. Maybe in 2045
Thanks for the video. I had the bad feeling that this DLC would not add much to the story of both Eivor and Odin, but apparently is even worse than that also "lore"wise. Yet another more of the same dlc... I am starting to get really REALLY scared by Infinity, if this is what we can expect
Personally I liked this dlc. Eivor sort of know/accept ragnarok. The final days and that it is ok to know fear and live fully each day. Because you can't be sure when you meet your doom/death.
Honestly it makes sense for AC but i still think ther leanung to much into the Sy fye without telling a good new story
Part 2?
Funny that you're asking, we have JUST released it!
Wow, so even you didn't enjoy this, heck seeing you actually defend the Asgard and Jotunheim arcs makes DoR seem to bad in comparison. Well regardless, thanks for putting in the work for this.
Ha, well, being a hardcore fan doesn't necessarily mean enjoying everything the brand releases. Actually, it can be the opposite at times :P
But yeah, in terms of story - not the gameplay, the gameplay is good - in my opinion this is the second worst DLC of the franchise in my opinion. Because nothing. NOTHING. Can beat Legacy of the First Blade.
@@AccessAnimus I'm aware, it is just after seeing most AC fans denounce the Asgard/Jotunheim arcs as "not AC" it was nice to see someone ACTUALLY understand those two arcs. So the fact that even you, someone who defended those two controversial arcs, disliked this so much simply cemented to me that this was botched, lol.
As always, Ubisoft manages to screw up with another story that had the potential to be one of the best in the franchise.
2:03 Was the Raven Clan mantle always like this? or the new mythical category changes the appearance as well? It's looking more golden than usual
Might Reda's Name have a Clue in it?
THE MEANING OF REDA IS:
'FAVORED BY GOD'
OR 'SATISFACTION'.
It is a gender-neutral name that is of Arabic origin.
Oh really? That is super interesting actually, maybe there is indeed some hint in there (though his name was introduced in 2017 where I don't believe they had plans for him becoming an Isu in 2022 :P)
Reda as Anansi? A trickster, learning all the tricks from a trickster (Loki), using those tricks to safely avoid catastrophe, finds a quiet horde of lesser Isu artifacts (and tattoos, and settlement decor, and ship styles), and rides out every week or so with a cart full of things, pulling strings to ensure his chosen warriors are well supported?
Just my late night theory, but I really hope we start to get Reda hints in the next game/dlc/I don't know the AC roadmap.
I once saw an Ac Infinity leak that said its going to have a modern day hub world and if thats true i have a prediction wich i think is pretty likley to come true
Im calling it that Reda will return as the mtx store guy and he will be in the modern day hub but this time he will just have modern day clothes
Ha, they were able to find a way to have the same MTX character across time... - I wonder if having a recognizable character can make players more inclined to buy MTX :P
Honestly when it comes to the magical elements it could revolve around technology. You just need to think outside of the box. After all we don't know all the technology that the Isu developed, we only know of a few that can alter the battlefield and control minds not to mention the power sources outside of that we don't really know what else they could possibly do.
Sure you could excuse it, but that doesn't change the fact you have to go out of your way to excuse it. It should be believable in the world if you have to make an excuse to suspend your disbelief that highlights how unbelievable it is. Why do you think they made the mythological veil, to begin with? Because what they wanted was so hard to believe in this world they had to create an excuse to make it somewhat believable and even that doesn't work very well. TL;DR that's a poor excuse for bad writing.
@@65firered I see your point and honestly I agree with that full heartedly. It's just I'm mostly don't care cuz they're only three things I care about in video games. Being op, a good story and character development. Anything outside of that just adds to the experience, besides I think they developers stopped caring about the lore a long time ago.
@@arthurcreatio7798 For me what drew me into Assassin's Creed was the interesting world, the lore, the characters, the stealth-action gameplay. Pretty much all of that is gone. You're supposed to be an OP badass in AC but like Rambo, a one-man army and a ghost, not a demi-God. I don't entirely blame the developers for this though. Reports on the inner workings of Ubisoft show that a few executives are responsible for this and directly interfere with development, going as far as actively restructuring the game to match their personal taste against the developers and creative directors' vision.
@@65firered which makes sense considering recently a lot of the titles that have been going on have been steering more and more away from the lore of the universe and the history that's supposed to be tied to the world of the game which is supposed to be all world but altered in a lot of ways. Here's hoping the current... Paradigm and return form. Hell if they want the spice up things in a different way that doesn't revolve around demigods and such they could literally give us more playing as a Templar or at least seeing things from their side.
@@arthurcreatio7798 Yeah, where's my Haythem game!? Honestly, I don't see a retired to form happening until another Syndicate crashes and burns.
I mean they are already fatiguing this new style it's bound to happen.
Why is Reda almost a omnipotent being that never ages?😂
I guess it's the power of the microtransactions that keeps him alive and well 👀
@@AccessAnimus lol that makes sense😂
ATA, thanks for doing this! I just…. Can’t.
This game that is just continuously taking a dump on the legacy of AC (btw, go back to Unity and Syndicate; walk around Paris and London, and realise how poor the RPG games are)
Between DoR and Elden Ring… I know which one I keep gravitating to
Is it possible that the dwarves represent humans? The biggest clue for me was their enslavement. Also Isu are taller than humans. It could translate. Just a thought.
I've seen a few fans mentioning that. There's also a mention of Odin providing the dwarves with "reason" when they were created and more hints like that. But then again, both the mythological arcs in the main game and the DLC do also mention "Midgard" and the humans that live there. Plus in the Jotunheim arc there are indeed normal sized humans working as slaves for the Jotnar (which mirrors the human working as slaves in the AC2 Truth video), with Odin even commenting on how bad it feels to him that humans are being enslaved.
As usual, this is pretty confusing - but I wouldn't expect humans to be able to create Pieces of Eden on their own and being master crafters as the Dwarves are in this DLC
Just finished the expansion and oh boy the story was extremely weak and the entire expansion was the worst of all 3.
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I think odin is the first character who used hidden blade In the assassins creed story
He only has one because Eivor is somewhat projecting herself into the visions.
What Crafty said, there's no proof that the Isu used any kind of tool similar to the Hidden Blade (at least for what I recall?)
Noooo not speed :(
Almost speed though!
I thought in mythology Freya or "Frigga" only had a Brother called Frigg, not a sister called Frigg.. and Baldr was Odin and Freyas son wasn't he? Not Frigg, who sometimes is said, she is a man. Very confusing
I was very confused.. but really loved and enjoyed the dlc
That’s for god of war
There's not enough words to describe my disappointment with this franchise. This DLC was clearly not made for AC fans.