How Science Powers Unbiased Microphone Comparison in Harman’s Anechoic Chamber

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024

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  • @Leo9ine
    @Leo9ine Рік тому +1

    You know what joins acoustically? A single full-range driver. If you ask me, that speaker is WAY too close for the *SIX different signals* from the four drivers+two ports to combine into one cohesive wavefront. You are guaranteed massive phase distortion as you sweep from woofer to tweeter. You have even more phase distortion thanks to the 3 crossovers. Plus comb filtering from duplicated woofers. Plus the "transient distortion" of mixing ribbons with conventional cones, AND the immense group delay inherent to a ported speaker. I wouldn't let this monitor in my studio, let alone use it as a reference for 200+ tests. This is insane. You did so much work. It's like building a million dollar racecar and starting with a flat tire.

  • @XRaym
    @XRaym 3 роки тому +4

    Very intersting to see the making of of this! And so much passion, nice! So many mics already done, and so many more to go :P
    A next step for your project could be a VST where we could select a source mic and choose a destination profile, like simple ToneBooster Morphit do for headphones or sonarworks for speakers/headphone!

  • @rogerio.naressi
    @rogerio.naressi 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you so much for putting this together! This is a great resource for audio engineers, educators and students.

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much! Are you in audio education?

    • @rogerio.naressi
      @rogerio.naressi 3 роки тому

      @@AudioTestKitchen Yes! I am an instructor in the Audio Technology program at American University. I'm planning on including Audio Test Kitchen this semester in one of our classes. Cheers,

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому

      @@rogerio.naressi that’s fantastic! Please keep us up-to-date and if you can, post a pic of you and the class using the app. Thanks so much and best luck. -Alex

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому

      @@rogerio.naressi I would love to know how your students respond to the app. Please stay in touch.

  • @generalcontrol
    @generalcontrol Рік тому

    Tremendous work that effectively proves that the microphone choice is virtually irrelevant in studio practice when you process audio in post. When all other variables are equal it all comes down to the frequency response which can be easily emulated digitally. Mic choice becomes a thing only when it is used live.

  • @MikeBroderick33
    @MikeBroderick33 3 роки тому +5

    This is really interesting. And I know people say it's a bit off-putting to be inside an anechoic chamber, but after listening to it for a few minutes, I thought it sounded really nice.

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому +3

      I loved it in there. I took to it instantly like a fish to water. Like a mic to a preamp, lol! Thanks -Alex

    • @MikeBroderick33
      @MikeBroderick33 3 роки тому +1

      @@AudioTestKitchen Hi Alex. You're welcome. Very cool video. I'm just curious. Are those compressed fiberglass panels covered in fabric or are they dust free?

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому +2

      @@MikeBroderick33 compressed fiberglass panels with no covering. Surprisingly little dust after all these years.

    • @MikeBroderick33
      @MikeBroderick33 3 роки тому

      @@AudioTestKitchen Very cool. I could use a couple of those. 😄 I bet they make great bass traps.

    • @5thgearouttahere
      @5thgearouttahere 3 роки тому +1

      I believe any unpleasantness would mostly come from talking or listening to other people, likely in a more relaxed conversational situation.

  •  2 роки тому +1

    I love it! I did some projects in anechoic chambers and it is such an amazing room to have

  • @envisiotube
    @envisiotube 2 роки тому +2

    I appreciate the work which was putted in. But to select this monitor speaker was not a good choice. It would have been better to use a broadband speaker or koncidence koaxial speaker from 100-200 Hz above to avoid positioning problems with the capsule and of course problems of cancellation / comb filter / time alignment / crossover effects. And the choice of music and vocalists was far away from perfect. Many people make their decision for a mic for human voice based an reproduction of sibiliants. So you should youse a text with a lot of sibiliants to make the comparision less time consuming and annoying. The work of different voice over artists which DO NOT SING would have been extremely useful. For me, Audio Test Kitchen is irrelevant because of this, although I think that the test procedure leads to results.

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway 6 місяців тому

    curious how it was decided to use a speaker with so many drivers vs a two way or 1 full range speaker. in question too is how close the mic position is; seems you can back it up a bit to allow for 4 drivers to sum if there’s no reflections.

  • @lucasvieira1805
    @lucasvieira1805 3 роки тому

    Thank you for all the frequency response. Amazing app!!! Sean and Harman target is super cool as well

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому

      Thank you Lucas. The Harman team is indeed amazing and generous. Please help us spread the word!

  • @oscarhuang3768
    @oscarhuang3768 2 роки тому

    That is the best test ever! Thank you to showed us the way to test microphones!

  • @CirclesOfMotion
    @CirclesOfMotion 2 роки тому

    Thank you for good work. But what about mic polar pattern? In anechoic chamber they can sound the same, but in actual rooms they can sound very different because they capture reflected sound from sides, back and top of mic. How you resolved this problem?

  • @user-sz4pl9eq6s
    @user-sz4pl9eq6s Рік тому

    Thank you very hard work

  • @eRONYTUBE
    @eRONYTUBE 3 роки тому +2

    Guys, I love your job so much !!
    Do you hire in Europe ? 😜

  • @CyrilleBoucanogh
    @CyrilleBoucanogh 2 роки тому +1

    Hi! Many thanks fot this great video. Tell me please, how did you define the target point of the ADAM surrogate speaker? According to the laser, it's not between the tweeter and mid woofer, but the laser point was right at the bottom line of the tweeter. Is it the best spot for every horisontal speaker with a ribbon driver? I thought the best point was right at the center of the speaker between the woofers. Was I wrong? Thabk you in advance for the answer.

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  2 роки тому +1

      Great question. We used a robot to locate the ideal position between all the drives. That was a long process, but it paid off! Thanks:)

  • @Lyuze
    @Lyuze Рік тому

    Hi! Im an audio student in university in Texas, and happen to have access to an anechoic chamber and an interesting assortment of mics that werent measured during your tests. I was wondering if there was any way that I could get into contact with you to discuss methodology and considerations in your testing and measurements. I would have sent an email to your business email, but seeing as this isn't exactly 'business', i didnt find it entirely appropriate. Let me know! Thanks!

  • @thedome765
    @thedome765 3 роки тому +2

    Great job guys!

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you! And thanks so much for helping to spread the word:) -Alex

    • @thedome765
      @thedome765 3 роки тому

      @@AudioTestKitchen of course!

    • @thedome765
      @thedome765 3 роки тому

      Will you guys be adding new microphones in the future?

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому +1

      @@thedome765 We are excited to add many more microphones of all types in the future. Please join the newsletter on www.audiotestkitchen.com to find out when we release new gear and content. Thanks for asking:) -Alex

    • @thedome765
      @thedome765 3 роки тому

      @@AudioTestKitchen Awesome, thanks!

  • @Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
    @Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 3 роки тому +4

    What does it smell like in there? And...how is the airflow ? Lol jk I would be enamored to work in there

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому +3

      I was worried about the airflow, as well, but somehow the temperature was really stable and it was quite comfortable all the time. There’s no HVAC coming in or out. Most of the time we are working in The chamber we have the door open and then seal it for capturing recordings. Thanks so much for your comment! -Alex

    • @Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
      @Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 3 роки тому

      @@AudioTestKitchen wonderful wonderful, keep doing great work. Thank YOU

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому +2

      @@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent thank you so much! It’s really nice to chat with you. Stay in touch. And please help us spread the word if you can -Alex

    • @Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
      @Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 3 роки тому

      @@AudioTestKitchen nice chatting with you as well, I’ll spread the word 👍🏽

  • @bradley3238
    @bradley3238 3 роки тому +2

    What's the difference between that room and a recording studio

    • @federruchi6147
      @federruchi6147 2 роки тому +2

      That room is like a super giga recording studio

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  2 роки тому

      The goal of an anechoic chamber is to remove room artifacts from the acoustic device on test. We recorded vocals in there to capture them as cleanly as possible.

  • @oversorrow6031
    @oversorrow6031 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Audio Test Kitchen, thanks for everything you've done. But I just noticed that the SM58, SM57 and SM7B disappeared on the list. I'm wondering why....

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому

      Hi Sorrow Over. That was a temporary glitch. Those sure dynamic mics are back in action. Thanks for noticing!

  • @nxs5184
    @nxs5184 3 роки тому +1

    Good stuff 👍🏼

  • @MusicTeacherClassStuff
    @MusicTeacherClassStuff 3 роки тому

    Nice to hear people under the stairs on the test. Rip double k

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  3 роки тому

      Double K gave us a gift that will keep on giving to many many Musicians. Thank you DK!

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway 6 місяців тому

    dang what happened to this channel? no results on the mics no new videos of anything ? 😢

  • @Altuz
    @Altuz 2 роки тому +2

    In my opinion this is a flawed experiment. I understand that the intention of utilizing a recording played through a modified studio monitor is to avoid the variables that come with live human performance. However, by recording the performance with a microphone and playing it through a studio monitor, you're only recording the information that both the microphone and the studio monitor are capable of producing. Essentially, you're comparing microphones that are recording a series of samples which are inherently limited in their information, whereas a live human voice is not.

    • @migzhaleco
      @migzhaleco 2 роки тому +3

      I disagree. In this experiment, of course they are using the voice as a variable of recording stable information. But what we are talking about here is how we can constantly record a consistent sound, and how the microphone will pick it up. A microphone does not determine what it is recording, whether it is human voice, an instrument or etc.. it only reacts to vibration from the air which is sound. So regardless of what you are recording, it doesn't really matter as long as the recorded information is consistent on all microphones.
      Also, anything beyond the information we recieve on this experiment is also beyond the capabilities of human hearing so the slightest miscalculations would not be audible anyway.. it's just going to be math.

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  2 роки тому +1

      It's a difficult, dilemma, Altuz, it's true. The alternative - every microphone receives a different performance - is far worse. We didn't believe it was possible to replicate the human voice until we spent months perfecting the process. We didn't stop until we couldn't tell the difference between the live vocal and the re-amplified voice.

    • @AudioTestKitchen
      @AudioTestKitchen  2 роки тому

      Thanks, Migz. You've got it - you can't have any variable except the microphone itself.