NA SHALL DESTROY EU | C9 vs FNC | IWD Worlds 2023
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C9 went to Korean 1 month before Worlds just take those Korean vacations and eat Korean BBQ this year. Jack so nice paying yearly vacations for his teams to China,Europe and Korea
Insane actually, Sure one month might not be enought to win worlds, but that should be sich an andvantage vs other Western teams... I cant belive they Look so bad still
@@Linkingx2haha I don't think they care about the game and competitiveness... All they care is compensation and enjoy the country food 😂
@@abhisheklokare7798 I know it has been 13 years now and na eu still are just barely Holding on... how Hard can it be to at least copy the korean way? The orgs have the money no way you can "try" to give your best and fail so bad. I dont even mean the players but rather the orgs
I heard that Fudge doesn't like bootcamping
@@Linkingx2 I mean there are loads of differences in the practice but Korea also just has way way more players.
This series made me realize, NA always performs best in games that don’t matter but the new format makes all the games matter so NA is doomed
On point.
stop with the superstition, they r just awful at league
@@SillanJunior we all are compared to koreans and chinese
@@SillanJunior And every win NA gets vs EU in group stage all come after the NA team is already out
@SillanJunior it's a joke Lil bro
After Baron when dom said “game should end here” I knew for a fact we were going another 15 minutes.
Liked the solo cast. Way more analysis and good commentary. I watched the stream and really appreciated the vod reviews in between rounds too.
yea so much more enjoyable
+1 from me. I can't stand Giliuses verbal diarrhea, it's too much.
Agreed, i liked this way better
Yamato is the only tolerable member of the sack
@@zacknight9137 I also like Jiizuke for the midlane perspective, but beside him, I agree. Dom and Yamato would be perfect!
Tbh, its so refreshing to actually get some analysis from dom instead of too many ppl shouting over each other and no analysis at all
As a Clown 9 fan for the past decade, I miss the days where C9 would put up a fight or find avenues for a comeback
This was a miserable watch, but less dreadful cos Dom is here to suffer with us
gg
Never forget C9 Hai backdoor attempt with Zed. Legendary moment. I wanted C9 to lose so much as an EU fan, but had to support them in that moment.
Im just gona say that when Hai and Sneaky left so did all the clutch/luck gene the team had, it feels like the difference between NA and EU for the last decade is not mechanics or macro, it seems that EU always have talent who excel in getting pidegeon drop (Blue Lock reference) in short in 50/50 situations where luck is the difference EU teams always manages to be in position to get lucky against NA meanwhile the gap in talent to Eastern teams is so large that luck is not enough.
@@theleafsbloodyflash I got to see the C9 and Fnatic players that year
Crazy how it's been ~9 years already
when was that ?
Dom is kinda suffering too much , now he is enjoying the pain
Really appreciate you solo casting, even though it might be more fun for you to vibe out with the boys ❤
Like the solo stream on this one , sometimes the sack gets quite rowdy
I really hope there will be more solo commentary at least for series where the winner isnt completely obvious
Doesn't have to be solo...a couple of interesting guests are fine, just not an entire zoo of screaming monkeys.
@@hpbnjelly esp jizuke man ... that laugh bro
The winner for this series wasn't obvious? The NA nameplate is right there.
this was a good match to watch with the sack EU vs NA
as long as there is no gillius its great
Dom grilling C9 for losing those drakes in the first game ended up being prophetic for how the series would end
Yes! Finally a video with just Dom.
I'm european but having 7 europeans scream "The game is over!" after every single little thing in the game, gets really old fast.
I subscribed for Dom, I want to actually hear Dom speak.
Really liking the dom solo commentary, because it gives so much more insight to these games! I barely understand what should be happening when I watch myself, but this offers so much understanding.
I would appreciate some Solocasts in the future, it was really nice and chill and we can focus on our favorite streamer instead of 6 people crosstalking
definitely preferred solo cast vs the full nutsack - the sweet spot was like 2-3 people total, but with 5+ it's just too much noise (the full squad for the final would probably be hype though)
Was so nice to not hear 5 people shouting “BY THE WAY” for the whole game 🙏🏻
ty for solo commentry. It was really peaceful.
the Zven game 3 paypal gap
fudge will never not give me stage 17 terminal depression
Solo cast was great, so much more insight.
I think this series perfectly exhibits main weakness of each region: NA just do not know how to set up objectives and keep getting into dumb 50/50s or giving free drakes/heralds, while EU cannot give up objecives to catch up properly, we just int for a cloud drake that could give us free 5 mins of scaling.
And we overengange like razork and humanoid have been doing for the past 2 years
NA plays a worse version of korean style league of legends. While with EU, they player closer to chinese style. Alot of the issues Korean league teams have struggled with in recent years are very smilar to the ones afflicting NA. Lack of willingness to pull the trigger and play aggresive on coinflips, etc.
Shoutout C9 nerfing Xayah winrate for all the Xayah main bros 🙌🙌🙌
This solo commentary is why I'm here, I've had to watch highlights elsewhere whenever the other co-streamers are on Dom's cast.
Keep it up dom!!
So happy im not the only one, in depth game analysis is why i fell in love with doms content
46:33 when Dom realizes for a solid minute, that Zven just straight up inted was a Gem I was not prepare for to see XD
Switched to Caedrel a while back cause I just cant stand Gilius and miss the IWD Solocast. Didnt even know he was solo today damn. Hopefully it stays this way more
same. unwatchable when gillius is on
@@Alex-sk1fx 80k ppl seem to disagree my friend
Caedrel and gilius are equally cringe imo
These videos are so much better when Dom is on his own so we can really hear his thoughts, I can't watch the ones where 5 pros are all screaming every play
Man where is the sack for this one. I wanted all the banter that comes with a NA vs EU series it is the absolute best.
finally a video that is listenable and not just a zoo of 7 people shouting
Not gonna lie,the solo cast is much more enjoyable. If I want to hear several people talking at the same time, I can just listen to the voices in my head
Solo cast is superior. I don't really care for friends goofing off while worlds is going on in the background.
I wonder if Dom took the criticism that was on reddit (praising Caedral), where they said that dom and LS no longer do serious commentary, and for dom specially, because there are too many people in the call and it devolves into a mess. I love The Sack for regular season / low level games, but I watch for Dom and not The Sack. In these calls, he’s often the quietest. Anyways, great content Dom!
As sad as this is, I’ve been sadder before. And it was the 2017 worlds with TSM when I legitimately thought we had a show make a deep run. After that worlds I don’t didn’t think we would be able to do anything internationally again until the outlier of C9 in 2018. I want to have hope in NRG but man it’s frustrating to become a wildcard region.
🌎👨🚀Are we a wildcard region? 🔫👨🚀 We always were.
the solo commentary is so much better
I didn't expect much from c9 but I still got depressed watching this
I wondered why I enjoyed this one so much. Then I realised Dom was commentating solo.
You know, the way this tournament has gone, I'm actually glad I don't get to watch it because of the fucked time zone. I never would have wanted to watch this live.
fact. Because Riot doesn't give a shit about America timezones it's a blessing because we don't have to watch the disappointment live. We can just read the spoiler be like "Oh. Sure. Another shit year of NA teams. Move on with our lifes"
@@RomnysGonzalez I mean what do you want them to do? You can't schedule matches at times that are favorable for all regions in the world. And the tournament is being held in Asia so naturally it's going to be at standard hours in Asia..? Are you really that entitled lmao
@@hipposheepwait, don't make sense here. If you make sense, you'll hurt their fragile egos.
Dumbest comment section i have ever read
Did you even know how timezone works?
Asia is having a shit schedule too if worlds plays in NA
@@RomnysGonzalez let's have matches after midnight so American can watch it lol
52:41 that Ali W on Jarvan looks so funky
32:18 Damn Dom spitting FACTS
Fudge thinking he is Bin , Blaber just having fun and not trying to win, Emenes having the biggest ego while being the worst player on every team he joins, Zven running it down for his boys in EU.
I feel so sad for Berserker, hopefully he gets picked by a team that actually wants to win and not have the disgusting teammates C9 provided this year.
I actually want BESERKER to play in LEC he has potential sadly NA will destroy his potential and career if he continue to play there.
As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free
mfs after winning 2-1 and immediately getting eliminated in the next round of the event
g2 will smoke nrg packl@@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
1/10 old joke
@@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS NA malding. Whole region coped saying you're better bc you beat our 7th place Summer team hahah. Have a safe trip to the airport!
@@ovenchipp3475 Whats that? I think i see g2 fnc back on the plane waving to NRG still in korea.
Editor speed is unreal
i really like the sack but i prefer the solo cast.
Solo dom commentary reminds me he's a good analyst and doesn't always just talk sh*t
Imagine not swapping ori and the jax to grant jax a free yone lane ^^.
For the love of fucking god, SOMEONE BUY BLABER A HAT THAT FITS.
Really enjoy the full match format in these kind of "hype" games
C9 need to replace both solo lanes at minimum. The only people who are safe are Berserker and Blaber.
Also loved the throwback solo cast.
the well sht a the end got me
41:48 Famous last words
The most painful thing about this performance is that I expected Zven to level up the most from last year's Worlds. Instead, he decided to go full int in Game 3
More importantly tho, they NEED a new midlaner. Praying for C9 JoJo
"There is some fights where it (Alistar Ult) is mega OP. The Sylas is just unkillable in a certain fight it can win you the game" ~ Foreshadowing at its finest
I appreciate Dom flying solo for this one! One additional person, maybe two, is fine, but the whole squad is now like 6 people which is just way to much auditory input to understand what is happening.
"r worded play" xD love it
Agent Sven sadness found a way to throw the free win away :( that was SOOO painful
there are no winners after watching these matches
no coming back from that throw after 3rd drag
Fudge factor back at with the jax attack
25:34 emenes just jinxed C9 to hell and back LOL
Finally a format where NA can truly shine and doesn't get any free games from dog teams, can't wait for NRG 👍
g2 is the only good team in the west after watching all the other na vs eu and other regions Na is considered below eu so the fact they won games vs eu and c9 coulda won this series but just threw goes to show the gap is not there besides g2 tbh
they won games against Mad not eu. Mad was terrible in regular season, they are probably our 6th best team but some how excel choked out of their minds@@domreto5055
What else can he do? Just casually become the best coach in NA within 1 game of a regular season.
I had a hard believe that FNC could win in game 1, humanoid almost carried that game
Good guy Rekkles, didnt hit nexus,because he knew the future
Best pick into Rumble - if we're talking 1v1 and 2v2 - should be Olaf, right ? Maybe doesn't provide enough later in the game (if your team falls behind and can't play sides, for example) but with Lethal Tempo and going ghost + flash you should have constant kill pressure and be able to zone Rumble quite well from CS.
Chippys, an OCE pro/coach who had Olaf as his pocket pick during his pro career has recently posted an Olaf guide. He thinks Rumble is one of the hardest matchups for Olaf because against ignite it's very hard for Olaf to win an early all in and Rumble pokes him out in lane.
@@Ekik1192001 Hm, interesting, I guess I underestimated Ignite there.
Olaf can’t really run down Rumble until he gets Ragnarok, a good Rumble just plays Phase Rush, Ignite, poke and space the Olaf and he can’t really do anything
I would say the best counters to Rumble are either Range tops, or a neutralizer like Dom mentioned Orn, maybe GP ? Im not sure.
The thing is that with the Rumble changes hes also really good into tanks as well, so most melee matchups are Rumble favored.
Really nice solo commentary tbh
Humanoid just made fun of all of C9 by not base tp-ing at the end
Just finished the video, this series was crazy thanks for the upload :)
damn you watched an hour long video in 3 minutes youre crazy good
lil bro you're not the editor
I like how so much of the video is committed to the game NA won
cause it took them an hour to end a game that should have been 25 mins
Even right after they got baron the first time, Emenes held ult when they dove top tier 2, and if he had used it they would have killed 3 total, and they could have ended.
The syntax of that tweet is suffering. It's basically self referential art. Very meta.
11:07 you can see Zven disconnecting and his champ path back to base. How unlucky. Imagine if he wasn't lagging he could flash on ori and secure the kill or ult or ignite. Very unlucky
Hey, Jack's thrilled. I mean, they made worlds! Isn't that the most important thing?
berserker: we are better then g2 - loses to FNC KEKW LMFAOOOOO SO BAD
MNS giving it the 2-0 hand signs during game 2 draft was also pretty funny
That's what NA does to you...
Thanks for the video glhf
solo iwd is much more fun to watch ngl
Na makes me realize what its like to fell like my dad. Constant disappointment
zven MVP! It could be the most entertaining game this worlds or even the past few worlds lol
Mission Successful: Agent Zven
49:30 yeah i feel like they did swiss to add more entertainment to the event, we all know worlds isnt peak league anyway so why not make it more fun to watch for casuals. Not perfect and not filled with competitive integrity but 100% more enjoyable to watch than past formats for sure, and still fair enough for east to dominate anyway.
- NA is a major region guy, trust, ain't no way their games are that bad (seeth*) .
- NA teams are very professional guy, their gameplay must be the best of the best (seeth*).
- NA could win World, i trust them to play their best ( seeth*).
.From a NA fan few years ago
people never define “major region” when they use it to describe regions
Also can anyone tell me why there's no facecheck during worlds?
Jax E reduces Rumble Q+Ult damage by 25% while it's up
People don't make use of the AOE damage reduction
Great spoilers in the thumbnail gg editors
I'm from NA, there is a reason I don't bother cheering for NA teams anymore. I predicted this exact outcome within minutes of the draw. At this point I only watch the shortest highlights I can find just to see the results and generally don't bother watching much of worlds until it is down to the teams that are actually worth watching. Sorry but NA should have been demoted from major region status years ago. There are teams from "wild card" regions that deserve a guaranteed spot in groups more. Let the top 2 NA seeds fight through play-in's and if they make it then they can be in groups. I tune in to worlds to see the best in the world, not the best in the world + the special olympics pity place.
I really want there to be a commentator to just turn heel and fully embrace the shit that is the NA region.
"Hellen Keller may be immune to flashbangs but that play would make her cringe"
"The Night's Watch has had a bigger impact on people than this organisation...and it's completely made up"
"Required viewing for every NA team should be Tropic Thunder before Worlds...'Never go full retard'."
It's funny how much better G2 is than every other western team, it is like they are not even from the west, in comparison to these performances.
Just gonna say it. Western teams struggle. Eu has had a few exceptions, but different take here. NA in particular gameplay is different. Then they go to Korea every year and change the way they play to adapt to teams who play that way year long. They should try not boot camping to see if their way in na has a chance over a month of adapting. JUST SAYING AINT GONNA CHANGE THE RESULT WE SEE WORST CASE, least it would change something up
Lmao my dude, have you watched NA play league??? Your suggestion is for NA to practice less? I mean yeah sure if they wanna go on vacation even faster that's a great strategy.
NA macro in home region is too bad.
even EU... they only years that EU was good (2018+2019) was when 1. they had a strong line up of players and 2. had a good idea about how to play the game, with decent makro + a different view from what the east was doing. that led to east needing to at least somewhat adapt to what fnc and g2 were doing those years. but they are still the exception. east picked up the good parts of eu those years and are still better in everything else and now its back to east being way too good. g2 has a strong line up so they can at least do some damage, but sadly won't be enough either unless g2 magically finds weird shit that works insanely well.
bro never watched lcs
SPOILER PROTECTION
It's just beautiful.
Give them hope in Game 1, let them start typing and then take it away from them.
EU > NA as per fucking usual!
The only thing NA has destroyed this world's is my mental
Was waiting for this one, dom suffering is amazing. Bad draft by fnc in first game. Putting humanoid on ori is a waste, not banning rumble red side is a fail. Thankfully they pulled it out at end, and nearly tilted c9 in the first game.
C9 rumble blessed by balls
just here to prevent spoilers
wow watching @iwilldominate hopeful and positive is actually a very wholesome fun experience. never thought id think something be more fun than old tilted dom
Dom was so happy in G1 🥺
I thought Taliyah would be good mid for Humanoid that last R5 pick, but maybe I am not seeing something?
NA Zven choking at a key moment? Should be a free-space on a bingo card.
I stopped watching after game 1 thinking it's easy 2-0 lol
I took a break from watching your vids. I miss the awesome commentary
Brother Zven💪💪💪
Clown 9 can only take that bo1s vs EU teams ... they never won bo3+ vs Fnatic
I feel bad for Berserker, please get him some human teammates for next year.