Creepy Shades Being older has nothing to do with becoming the very thing you hate. He hated and mocked these people for decades, made his name off it. Now he's become what he despised. That's called completely selling out and it's a personal failure. Ever listen to stern lately? It's unlistenable, absolutely horrible the past 5 years.
The beginning of the end started with his divorce, then Jackie leaving, then the move to satellite and finally Artie leaving. It was a progressive downfall. Now he’s irrelevant and boring and unfunny
You normally don't get to watch people sell-out right before your eyes. No one I know has kept their subscriptions. We go to UA-cam and listen to the old, OLD shows.
The KROCK days were the best! Even the years on satellite with Art he still had an edge When Howard met and married Yoko Ostrosky it was the beginning of the end.
I've got 1993 -2020 ALL full shows, no commercials, no censorship. Wanna spread it around but my internet is shit and no one I know gives a crap. Early show is so good... i listen daily.... so neat to hear news from back then... unfiltered.
Yes exactly. Did you watch that episode where Artie gets real with Howard because he does the hot girl wants to date a fat guy bit. Then Artie tells him he wants time off to better his life. Howard and Robin attack him for wanting to leave the show. Howard was scared shitless. His show sucks. I'm realizing the only thing I've ever liked about his show is everything but him.
As much as I hate to hear the “behind the scenes” stuff, Howard is successful for a reason. If you think the show was just random conversation every day you’re wrong. There was always a structure. It just sucks to see it because you loose the illusion of what the show used to be. I no longer listen because I’m not into the show structure anymore. But I’m not surprised they meet like this to have a “goal” or common objective as a business
Sadly, the 1988 Howard would likely think, "Oh my god! I finally got the respect from Hollywood I deserve and no longer have to cater to a loser audience!" Make no mistake, Howard always wanted to be a part of the in-crowd. He just didn't have the looks and such to do it that way, so he became a "shock jock" to get attention. Even then, if you really listen to what he said back in the day, it bothered him that mainstream entertainment media and people thought he was a vile creep. But he toughed it out long enough, and made such a big name for himself, that he actually began to get some respect. The start was getting on "America's Got Talent", which introduced him to a new audience and showed his detractors he had more to him than the sex and non-PC skits from his radio show. He also was around long enough that new, rising stars like Jimmy Kimmel, who grew up listening to his show, actually liked him and were in positions to help him get more mainstream recognition. Howard always was the guy he is revealed to be under the Marci Turk era. It's that older persona that was fake, in parts. The parts that were real is the insecure man who railed against the machine because he wanted to really be a part of it. And he used his audience from those years like he used his staff and the mentally deficient Wack Packers: As a means to an end to achieve his goal of getting famous, and eventually respected by the mainstream.
Jesus christ this video gives me nightmares of having to sit in "all hands" meetings while people in departments that dont really need to even exist tell us about how they are the most important department and we all need to help them with their job.
It's crazy how fast he "jumped the shark" once he got his payday. I listened to him religiously and watched his E! Show back in the day but his show nowadays is unbearable. How many cats he has, The Bachelor/ette talk, impressions of his parents, commercials... Rinse and repeat.
I’m a relatively “new” fan who has enjoyed listening to Howard for a couple years. The majority of the show is fine… but the parents impressions shtick is UNBEARABLE. I weirdly feel bad for Robyn sometimes for having to chuckle through the awkwardness. Sheesh!
I was an avid Howard Stern show fan . When he went to satellite radio , I wasn't enthusiastic about it . He was allowed to be outrageous . How rebellious is that ?...
@@firstnamekaty8830 I was a truck driver and was lucky to have listened to that show . My opinion is the show was pretty much done by the time Artie got on the show . Don't get me wrong , I love Artie .
@@santosmadrigal3702 Yeah, I know what you’re saying. I think the show was funnier when they had the FCC regulations and had to go around saying what they were really trying to say. Howard just got more and more PC and now he’s exactly what he used to make fun of. He seemed to change a lot too when he got with the horse-face gold digger, Beth. He should’ve retired a long time ago, he’s ruining his legacy.
What happened is Howard grew up and matured substantially through therapy. Did you expect him to make fart jokes into his 60s? I was a huge fan of the old show too; but time moves on and we all grow older. And don’t forget that he is contracted with a big company that wants to bring in revenue. They did not sign a multi million contract to be entertained.
@@PJxBuchwild because he went from “terrestrial” radio where he had to sell advertising he had to work to keep an audience. And because of his massive audience, he could get guests regardless of how controversial he was. Now, he needs the guests more than they need him. He can’t be a dick to people and still get them to do his show. So, he had to change his show.
@@scottcastro9383 I have to disagree. People like Katie Couric, Dan Rather, and countless other great interviewers in their own right, have expressed that they consider Howard one of the best interviewers in TV/radio. His long-form freedom to a huge audience "moves the needle" for his guests and they know it. If you listen to his interviews, he never acts "like a dick". He's grown up, and he's a major commodity. And stats reveal that the majority of subscribers join because of HIM. There are reasons he gets paid a reported $80 million a year for a part-time job!
This sounds just like an insurance sales training seminar. Bribe people, make up fake endorsements, tell half-truths about your product, just do whatever you have to do to make the sale
Howard spent 35 years cultivating a persona and creating a cutting edge show. You can call it getting older, you can call it evolving. You can call it whatever the heck you want, just don’t expect your longtime fans to take this kind of change in the show direction lightly. People have become personally invested in the show so give them some slack that they don’t jump for joy and fully jump on board for the different changes.
you can literally track the end of the show from this meeting. remember him apologizing to lena dunham, that was within weeks of this meeting. the end of the show was beginning right here.
It was January 2010 for me. Artie’s last show was in December 09 and when they came back from break in January 2010 the show was insanely boring. The audio version of watching paint dry. And it’s somehow only gotten worse.
The crazy thing is, when you stop listening to the show you NEVER hear about Howard or the show. It’s shocking how little traction it has with the public.
Right. I've not heard his name mentioned for years. I'm here only because I looked up Pig Vomit because I'm streaming Private Parts. He sounds like a staff meeting video that's a cross between Starbucks and Scientology. What a panty-waste.
I never thought of it like that. You used to see the Howatd Stern Sirius advertising all over the place around 07 but nowadays you don't hear anything about the Stern Show. I'd be curious what his audience size is nowadays.
I retired from listening to HS in 2018. It had to be done, the show was a retred of itself. I started listening early 90's, im so glad that I got to witness the best show in the world ever! Because now, its become a corporate billboard with Bobo calls. I just wish it ended better. Tho he has fallen, we shall remember what once was... Our King!
That's why you have to hold onto the tapes and MP3s. They're scrubbing the internet of that kind of stuff. I have a few hundred gigs of full shows and best ofs ranging from the 80s to late 2000s, it's insane how funny the older show was.
@@michaelgee8219 He's just cashing out and trying to stay relevant. From time to time they recommend clips of the official show on UA-cam and idk why but it's just sad to see him and Robin in the studio at their age. He was a legend and there's no denying that but he's not the man he was.
Yeah can't ever take that away from the man. Howard, Jackie, Stuttering John, Ralph, the entire Wack Pack, they were all great and Howard is responsible for all of it. He made Scott the Engineer interesting, I was more entertained by Riley Martin and Eric the Midget than I was hearing whatever Hillary Clinton and some aging rock star had to say. I can list 100 names and 1,000 moments, all of it was great. And something today's generation can never comprehend, if something big happened in the news or especially in entertainment, nobody's opinion mattered until 6:00am and Howard gave his take. Fortunately he's left us with an infinite amount of content that we'll probably consume for the rest of our lives.
@@PJxBuchwildthat content will never disappear. I've been saving content since Napster, and there's probably tens of thousands of us who did the same thing.
Just canceled my SiriusXM last week. The show has been unlistenable for a long time. I hung in there for a long time. Just couldn’t take it anymore. You guys are spot on as far as this video goes. How EMBARRASSING and why wouldn’t he have someone else make this presentation
I watched this video not too long ago. It almost seems like Howard was under an immense amount of pressure from Sirius to create buzz and generate income and subscriptions. It’s also apparent he doesn’t have a good relationship with Sirius after suing them.
" he wants structure & cant spell structure "..John is funny af & reminds me of my dad's drinking buddies that used to hang around the bar & knew how to have fun ..🤣
This is why Joe Rogan, Bill Burr and other podcasters are killing him in ratings and relevance. People have moved away from “A list” driven entertainment and have been doing so for some time.
DynastyKit He does have a A-listers, but what I think the person was referring to is the energy and focus that Howard puts on bringing in A-listers. Whereas Joe Rogan has a wide variety of people from various industries. You bet, some of them are A-listers and very important people, but he’ll have other types that are interesting intellectually to Joe but not the emphasis that Howard has on bringing high-quality Hollywood types.
I watched Rogan’s specials on Netflix and the guy was hilarious and I decided to give his podcast a try. The sh*t is unlistenable. He had Segura on and for the life of me I don’t know how two talented people like them could come up with sh*t like that. I especially “loved” Rogan’s never ending long form commercials. Very classy.
The biggest point that's being missed is that even if his staff followed through and they got those A list guests, it wouldn't have mattered or added one new subscriber. Old fans hate the celebrity interviews and potential new subscribers aren't paying $15 a month for content they don't know exists, since it's behind a paywall.
Spencer Nelson I liked the show because of the semi scripted chaos. I never gave af about celebrity interviews, unless they devolved into chaos of course.
That’s so true. Long time listeners from the DC days just appreciate and loved how they fucked with each other. Who the hell was better than Billy West? He was so funny on the show. I think now he hates being associated with the show
This is the best and most clear explanation of how the Stern show changed. Because He decided to take the show in a new direction and focus on celebrities. Howard has always been about accumulating power. Personally I have no interest in celebrity interviews and will not watch them. I liked the old Stern show which focused on the weirdness of non famous people. But you have to give the guy credit. He got mega famous, mega credit with celebrities and if worth like 500 million. The show changed because he willed it to for better or worse.
Can’t believe this is Howard stern! Thank god for all the people that upload the old Howard tv clips on UA-cam ! They’ve edited artie out of clips when they show old clips on the Howard stern show now! Shocking.
This meeting was clearly the beginning of the end. My life use to revolve around the Stern show but last year I had to cancel my Sirius sub and stop listening to the show as Howard became absolutely insufferable.
Yep I replaced Howard (after 25 years listening to him) with Joe Rogan. I don't like listening to music when I first get up and Howards show just make want to vomit now it sad it turned into this. Howard has lost all touch with reality and this is from 2013 and the show has even gotten worse I heard. I wouldn't know I canceled Sirius
Dom Battistone he doesn’t need strippers, I’m just surprised by this video as it shows him being a guy that was everything he hated. It would be like Keith Richards teaching supply chain certification programs...it’s depressing
KhalDrogo76 “Supply chain certifications”.....that’s very funny! I used to work for Boeing and every thing I did was plotted on a fucking metric chart! That’s what this reminds me of.
True statement by Studdering John,,"No one ever says did you hear what happend on the Stern Show anymore"...those days of cuttting edge stern show content are over
He still makes the news every now and then. When the comments about certain things. For example, about those who are unvaccinated, or that tennis player who wast kicked out of Australia because he wasn't vaccinated.
Howard is like Tom Hanks in the movie ‘Big’. He’s now the teenager who grew into the Wall Street guy who people roll their eyes at.. looking at graphs, charts, data, etc... I give Howard all the credit for achieving his goals earlier in his career.. working hard to get to the top. But it’s impossible to stay at the top. And this seminar is all about stubborn desire to be at the top while trying to convince an entire staff that he knows how to get them there based on his own thoughts... No one will question the guy who’s writing their paychecks.. and I’ve heard Howard berate Gary and belittle him by stating such things. I have to agree with missing the older version of Howard, raw and rock star.. now he’s so polished it’s borderline arrogant.
Not really though. Could you not always see that this was the real dude underneath the face he puts on for his show? Nobody ever said: Howard is my favorite on the Stern show. And that was with the whole staff slaving to make him funny and popular. Maybe 1 person helps Robin with the same shit. And they are the most hated people on the show, and always have been
I grew up to Howard. Missed college classes not wanting to get out of my car because i was laughing so hard. Then maybe because i grew up. It seemed like what he is falls into one category. As egotistical and narcissistic as he is. It doesn't touch how bad a "human being" he is. Very unfortunate he was never humbled. His legacy now is great interviewer and terrible human being.
Well said... could not agree with you more. I listened to howard from the time i was 14 until my early 30s. I grew up. I got sick of his bullshit. I loved the old show, with howard, robin, jackie and fred. I loved artie too, but i just couldnt deal with howard anymore. He is older than me, yet i find him soo immature.
Its funny too because you can feel these changes being put into practice. They just had Drew Barrymore on plugging her talk show and it was so vapid. But he's trying to appeal to a new audience. So be books harry stiles, cardi B, etc. Trying to stay relevant. I still like listening to his show though, he has some good guests still. And they did finally get Eddie Vedder and it was cool.
@@jamesross9906 Actually Eric The Midget accused Howards staff of making fake twitter accounts and said a former intern told ETM about it. Howard denied it and laughed it off..looks like the little guy was right.
Basically this is Howard trying to stay relevant in a space with Twitch, UA-cam, Tik Tok, Podcasts and more. He is just noise now in the sea of everybody who has voices. Howard's voice is not one of the few. People don't care.
@@tomfogarty9664 my point is that all the bitter and former Stern show staffers would run back if he asked. I am not defending the new howard, I think his show is a repeat of the same shit 3 days a week. even with that, they all would love the chance to be back on. artie, stuttering john, and most likely shuli in a few months
Also, on 90's Stern this would have been an episode, not a backroom meeting. And instead of powerpoints, it would have been Jackie and Fred feeding the best lines.
I’ve been to several annual company conferences\meetings. Some in a hotel conference room like this. Some in ball rooms in Las Vegas. How is this supposed to be shocking? Of course Howard is egotistical and a little delusional. It’s neither shocking nor interesting. If your surrounded by a bunch of ass kissers who shower you with praise and agree with everything you say then your going to get that way. Hell, Stuttering John was one of these people! The added commentary here is awkwardly sad. There seems to be a lot of pain, jealousy and resentment behind the comments.
yeah its normal in a corp or reg company setting like insurance or sales, but not for david letterman, or colbert theirselves to be browbeating the rank and file staff into doing professional jobs they aren't trained in and the extra workload of another career with no extra pay lol, anyone else on the planet would just hire social media company and publicists
Man, I remember the days when Howard said he'd rather interview Beetlejuice or Gary the Retard than Ellen or Aniston. Now he literally made it company policy to "kiss celebrity asses." The sad part is he didn't need it. Actors take shit jobs in commercials and really bad movies at the start of their careers for publicity. Musicians play in front of 3 people at opn-mics just to be heard. But Howard did this at the end of his career. He already had his fame and fortune. That's the point you should never sell out your principles.
Let’s be honest, though. As great as the show was years ago, Howard deserves this fall from grace. How many former key cogs have been left in the dust and disrespected by him? Jackie, Artie, Scott, John, the whack pack. The list goes on and on.
It’s the Stern show last time I checked. It was a thing before most of the people you listed. We’re they beneficial to the show? Yes. But they got paid, got their moments of fame and honestly Howard doesn’t owe them anything. It’s actually the other way around. You just don’t see it that way because you don’t like the show anymore. Howard is an old man, that’s what many people overlook. He’s a grandpa, he doesn’t want to belittle street hookers younger than his daughters anymore and that upsets you. Those people should thank the earth they were able to be apart of the show. And the show still has a lot of listeners today. They know way more about keeping a radio show alive and relevant way more than you do trust me. It’s insane that Howard has even been able to keep it going this long.
I agree I hate that he's gone this direction but he's getting old I mean really old. And I'm getting old and I know I have changed a lot I don't think the same way I used to. He's getting old and he doesn't want to be rowdy anymore
Why is this ridiculous I’m confused.. he’s a business man and a successful one at that.. it’s called growth .. HS is a brand and Stuttering John is commenting from a location that is not successful obviously. He always had a plan and clearly it’s worked.
large international companies go by data and the data must have shown he was worth it, they're a publicly traded company with a board of directors and stock holders ,the numbers are the numbers ,it's not a mom and pop operation giving away 600 million dollars for a transitory gain
The show has been unlistenable the past 4-5 years. Richard and Sal and a few wack packers are the only good thing left. Howard just wants A list celeb interviews. The show is basically PC now.
this is so bizarre to watch. Granted, I haven't really listened or watched in 20 years or so since his move to XM Sirius and the E! show ended but this just seems to be the complete antithesis of what Howard used to be.
The show has been unlistenable the past 4-5 years. Before that the show was still great. Now it's just interviewing A list celebs and it's PC. Very depressing.
Why is it so bad that someone is trying to evolve their purpose and business? It’s a business. I still like Stern, I think it’s interesting to see someone make an attempt to evolve. But I obviously understand that others might not like the change.
Pelican? Bro that man right there gave you a life, without him you would be absolutely nothing. No tonight show, no record deal, not Sh!t. I’d just keep quite an be happy you had a good career, which you would not have had without that “pelican”
Did someone with a professional background proofread the presentation? There are multiple grammatical, structural, capitalization, consistency issues in the slides. Yikes. Especially with the fact that Stern always tries to correct people’s grammar.
I listened to the show from 1988-2015. When Artie left the show it lost that edge it never recovered from and yes the show was still very good but not like before. It's funny how there was a meeting to find out who leaked the video and they still don't know how it happened. I'm sure we'll find out after the show finally ends.
Why is it ALL about getting the A list celebrities? The interviews go on forever and its just Howard doing his therapist act on them (prob only reason he is in therapy) It also waters down 101 because who wants to hear re runs of those interviews from 10 years ago? His most fascinating guests are not A list..
Siruius Radio may have 23 million listeners, but Howard has about 800,000 daily. But Howard thinks that his show IS Sirius and there are no other stations! I don't know ANYONE who listens to Howard 100.
Wow, *howard TV you've got a job!* He flat out lied. I remember he just dropped them live on the air in late 2013, probably less than 6 months after this weird meeting.
Howard Stern essentially became what he used to make fun of.
Bobbie Tuggboat Bill is just less misogynistic now... it’s called growth.
Like Hanzi said.
@Saul Gewddman I believe it's c u next tuesday.
@@Imnottapinata Kissing up to Hollywood socialites isn't growth. It's called being phony.
Creepy Shades Being older has nothing to do with becoming the very thing you hate. He hated and mocked these people for decades, made his name off it. Now he's become what he despised. That's called completely selling out and it's a personal failure. Ever listen to stern lately? It's unlistenable, absolutely horrible the past 5 years.
This is not a staff meeting, this is Howard Stern giving the eulogy for the show.
This was the beginning of the end.
One hell of a career. We will never see another Howard
The show was already significantly worse than it was just a few years earlier but this is when Howard decided to nuke it.
The beginning of the end started with his divorce, then Jackie leaving, then the move to satellite and finally Artie leaving. It was a progressive downfall. Now he’s irrelevant and boring and unfunny
Sounds exactly like every business meeting I sit in
@@edfa3706 Yes but why didn't he step down before doing this? He had the money, leave as a legend not a has been.
I agree with John. But let's get real; if John was still on the show he'd be there in the front row nodding his head to every word.
I listen to Stern on SiriusXM most days & he’s just hustling that’s all!!
Of course he would, he’s obsessed. How many years later and he’s still consumed with trashing Howard?
Everybody eats shit from their boss not really a good point
I agree stern is no good anymore I only listen to old shows on UA-cam but john is just mad
let’s be honest none of the old employees would have the stomach to go on with woke howwie he sucks now
You normally don't get to watch people sell-out right before your eyes. No one I know has kept their subscriptions. We go to UA-cam and listen to the old, OLD shows.
Exactly the old clips are the BEST. Tons of good channels on UA-cam with old clips now. The modern show is unlistenable. Really sad.
The KROCK days were the best! Even the years on satellite with Art he still had an edge When Howard met and married Yoko Ostrosky it was the beginning of the end.
The old shows are ALL I listen to
right. He just signed a contract for more money than either of us can count. Im sure thats because no one listens
I've got 1993 -2020 ALL full shows, no commercials, no censorship. Wanna spread it around but my internet is shit and no one I know gives a crap. Early show is so good... i listen daily.... so neat to hear news from back then... unfiltered.
The Howard from 25 years ago would've fuckin destroyed and tore this video apart on his show if he came across this. It's so sad.
Damn. I just typed that!
Howard is now Imus
Holy shit this is sad to watch. The show ended when Artie left, let's be honest.
RIP Hampton's Howie.
It was solid for a little while after that. I'll say until late 2010 to early 2011
Yes exactly. Did you watch that episode where Artie gets real with Howard because he does the hot girl wants to date a fat guy bit. Then Artie tells him he wants time off to better his life. Howard and Robin attack him for wanting to leave the show. Howard was scared shitless. His show sucks. I'm realizing the only thing I've ever liked about his show is everything but him.
true
The show ended when he divorced his first wife.
Artie was the embodiment of what this show should be.
I watched this and thought Howard's finally lost it - then I discovered the date. It's 9 years old. The dudes been totally deluded for years.
Wow! I can't believe this is how Howard began running things. This sounds like an Insurance sales course
Never knew Stern would need to do this..your right.looks like some insurance convention presentation in Des Moine Iowa lol
LOL
Or a ponzi scheme pitch
As much as I hate to hear the “behind the scenes” stuff, Howard is successful for a reason. If you think the show was just random conversation every day you’re wrong. There was always a structure. It just sucks to see it because you loose the illusion of what the show used to be.
I no longer listen because I’m not into the show structure anymore. But I’m not surprised they meet like this to have a “goal” or common objective as a business
I wish 1988 Howard could comment on 2013 Howard. 1988 Howard would have fatal douche chills.
Sadly, the 1988 Howard would likely think, "Oh my god! I finally got the respect from Hollywood I deserve and no longer have to cater to a loser audience!" Make no mistake, Howard always wanted to be a part of the in-crowd. He just didn't have the looks and such to do it that way, so he became a "shock jock" to get attention. Even then, if you really listen to what he said back in the day, it bothered him that mainstream entertainment media and people thought he was a vile creep. But he toughed it out long enough, and made such a big name for himself, that he actually began to get some respect. The start was getting on "America's Got Talent", which introduced him to a new audience and showed his detractors he had more to him than the sex and non-PC skits from his radio show. He also was around long enough that new, rising stars like Jimmy Kimmel, who grew up listening to his show, actually liked him and were in positions to help him get more mainstream recognition. Howard always was the guy he is revealed to be under the Marci Turk era. It's that older persona that was fake, in parts. The parts that were real is the insecure man who railed against the machine because he wanted to really be a part of it. And he used his audience from those years like he used his staff and the mentally deficient Wack Packers: As a means to an end to achieve his goal of getting famous, and eventually respected by the mainstream.
1988 Howard would give both nuts to have Howard's millions
@@jimmysmits6255 In a sense, that's just what he did eventually. The "new" Howard certainly doesn't have the balls the old one did.
I agree. This is sad.
There is no “old Howard”……. It was always the same Howard……….😢
I remember my dad driving us to school listening to Howard. This is depressing
Same here. Every morning. I can even remember beating off to the blurred out strippers when the show aired on E! Channel after 1030pm
A circus is never about the ringmaster. It's about all the other attractions going on around him. Stern has truly lost sight of that fact.
Profound, I'm using that.
Wow very well said
What a fall from grace. Unbelievable. I don’t care if it’s Marci Turk or not. Howard reaches sphincter level 10 on the c_nt scale!!!!!
Beth blows him??
That's very cu-ty
The pelican briefing 😂
Jesus christ this video gives me nightmares of having to sit in "all hands" meetings while people in departments that dont really need to even exist tell us about how they are the most important department and we all need to help them with their job.
You either die hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Or even worse, parrot back joker quotes on the internet.
Howard has become Don Imus
I think this whenever i hear 'howard' or 'stern'
He asked 30 people to create fake Twitter accounts to promote his show... now he has 100K people that know that
Howard: *walks up stairs*
John: "Look at how he walks!!"
That's what I was thinking. This guy. Is he kidding ?😂😂😂
It's crazy how fast he "jumped the shark" once he got his payday. I listened to him religiously and watched his E! Show back in the day but his show nowadays is unbearable. How many cats he has, The Bachelor/ette talk, impressions of his parents, commercials... Rinse and repeat.
I’m a relatively “new” fan who has enjoyed listening to Howard for a couple years. The majority of the show is fine… but the parents impressions shtick is UNBEARABLE. I weirdly feel bad for Robyn sometimes for having to chuckle through the awkwardness. Sheesh!
I was an avid Howard Stern show fan . When he went to satellite radio , I wasn't enthusiastic about it . He was allowed to be outrageous . How rebellious is that ?...
@@santosmadrigal3702 Either way the entire show went to shit when Artie left.
@@firstnamekaty8830 I was a truck driver and was lucky to have listened to that show . My opinion is the show was pretty much done by the time Artie got on the show . Don't get me wrong , I love Artie .
@@santosmadrigal3702 Yeah, I know what you’re saying. I think the show was funnier when they had the FCC regulations and had to go around saying what they were really trying to say. Howard just got more and more PC and now he’s exactly what he used to make fun of. He seemed to change a lot too when he got with the horse-face gold digger, Beth. He should’ve retired a long time ago, he’s ruining his legacy.
As sad as this was to watch, it really answered some questions I had about what the heck happened to my favorite show
He basically changed genres, he went from comedy to this Barbara Walter's style interview format.
What happened is Howard grew up and matured substantially through therapy. Did you expect him to make fart jokes into his 60s? I was a huge fan of the old show too; but time moves on and we all grow older. And don’t forget that he is contracted with a big company that wants to bring in revenue. They did not sign a multi million contract to be entertained.
@@PJxBuchwild because he went from “terrestrial” radio where he had to sell advertising he had to work to keep an audience. And because of his massive audience, he could get guests regardless of how controversial he was. Now, he needs the guests more than they need him. He can’t be a dick to people and still get them to do his show. So, he had to change his show.
@@phowell333 he didn't mature. He gave up.
@@scottcastro9383 I have to disagree. People like Katie Couric, Dan Rather, and countless other great interviewers in their own right, have expressed that they consider Howard one of the best interviewers in TV/radio. His long-form freedom to a huge audience "moves the needle" for his guests and they know it. If you listen to his interviews, he never acts "like a dick". He's grown up, and he's a major commodity. And stats reveal that the majority of subscribers join because of HIM. There are reasons he gets paid a reported $80 million a year for a part-time job!
“He’s wearing a fucking scarf”😂🤣
This sounds just like an insurance sales training seminar. Bribe people, make up fake endorsements, tell half-truths about your product, just do whatever you have to do to make the sale
ABC Alway Be Closing !
all this meeting needed was one slide of beetlejuice
Howard spent 35 years cultivating a persona and creating a cutting edge show.
You can call it getting older, you can call it evolving. You can call it whatever the heck you want, just don’t expect your longtime fans to take this kind of change in the show direction lightly.
People have become personally invested in the show so give them some slack that they don’t jump for joy and fully jump on board for the different changes.
you can literally track the end of the show from this meeting. remember him apologizing to lena dunham, that was within weeks of this meeting. the end of the show was beginning right here.
He should have had Eric the Midget do a drive by dildo slap to the face on Dunham. Now that’s a show.
GallowsPole805 😂
on BLAST AGT was just part of it.
It was January 2010 for me. Artie’s last show was in December 09 and when they came back from break in January 2010 the show was insanely boring. The audio version of watching paint dry. And it’s somehow only gotten worse.
@@JustinBlazzzee exactly
The crazy thing is, when you stop listening to the show you NEVER hear about Howard or the show. It’s shocking how little traction it has with the public.
Right. I've not heard his name mentioned for years. I'm here only because I looked up Pig Vomit because I'm streaming Private Parts. He sounds like a staff meeting video that's a cross between Starbucks and Scientology. What a panty-waste.
I never thought of it like that. You used to see the Howatd Stern Sirius advertising all over the place around 07 but nowadays you don't hear anything about the Stern Show. I'd be curious what his audience size is nowadays.
I wonder how many Gen Z'ers have never even heard of him.
It's over johnny, over!
I retired from listening to HS in 2018. It had to be done, the show was a retred of itself. I started listening early 90's, im so glad that I got to witness the best show in the world ever! Because now, its become a corporate billboard with Bobo calls. I just wish it ended better. Tho he has fallen, we shall remember what once was... Our King!
That's why you have to hold onto the tapes and MP3s. They're scrubbing the internet of that kind of stuff. I have a few hundred gigs of full shows and best ofs ranging from the 80s to late 2000s, it's insane how funny the older show was.
@@PJxBuchwild its night & day. The guy helped raise me. Now, I wouldnt talk to him. He is a disgusting science experiment now
@@michaelgee8219 He's just cashing out and trying to stay relevant. From time to time they recommend clips of the official show on UA-cam and idk why but it's just sad to see him and Robin in the studio at their age. He was a legend and there's no denying that but he's not the man he was.
Yeah can't ever take that away from the man. Howard, Jackie, Stuttering John, Ralph, the entire Wack Pack, they were all great and Howard is responsible for all of it.
He made Scott the Engineer interesting, I was more entertained by Riley Martin and Eric the Midget than I was hearing whatever Hillary Clinton and some aging rock star had to say.
I can list 100 names and 1,000 moments, all of it was great. And something today's generation can never comprehend, if something big happened in the news or especially in entertainment, nobody's opinion mattered until 6:00am and Howard gave his take.
Fortunately he's left us with an infinite amount of content that we'll probably consume for the rest of our lives.
@@PJxBuchwildthat content will never disappear. I've been saving content since Napster, and there's probably tens of thousands of us who did the same thing.
I am here because of the new york post article today on stern
Same
His staff must know what a joke this is by now. Can you imagine Sal actually sitting there taking this shit seriously?
Sal is just collecting a paycheck at this point
Just canceled my SiriusXM last week. The show has been unlistenable for a long time. I hung in there for a long time. Just couldn’t take it anymore. You guys are spot on as far as this video goes. How EMBARRASSING and why wouldn’t he have someone else make this presentation
No one cares
Aussie here, so you have to pay in the U.S to listen to radio shows?🇦🇺
Good grief.. he "walks" like the just reanimated Frankenstein.. watch his feet..
Lol he really does...plodding about in his big shoes
Howard is like a band that peaked in the 90s but still insists on recording new music. No. One. Cares.
(Cough cough) coal chamber (cough cough).
I watched this video not too long ago. It almost seems like Howard was under an immense amount of pressure from Sirius to create buzz and generate income and subscriptions. It’s also apparent he doesn’t have a good relationship with Sirius after suing them.
" he wants structure & cant spell structure "..John is funny af & reminds me of my dad's drinking buddies that used to hang around the bar & knew how to have fun ..🤣
This is why Joe Rogan, Bill Burr and other podcasters are killing him in ratings and relevance.
People have moved away from “A list” driven entertainment and have been doing so for some time.
Are you trying to say Joe Rogan doesn't have A-listers on his show because that's a straight up lie.
DynastyKit He does have a A-listers, but what I think the person was referring to is the energy and focus that Howard puts on bringing in A-listers. Whereas Joe Rogan has a wide variety of people from various industries. You bet, some of them are A-listers and very important people, but he’ll have other types that are interesting intellectually to Joe but not the emphasis that Howard has on bringing high-quality Hollywood types.
He's still in the top 10 earners today. On a list with The Rock, Kylie Jenners and a bunch of athletes. Not too bad
This was nearly a decade ago in fairness.
I watched Rogan’s specials on Netflix and the guy was hilarious and I decided to give his podcast a try. The sh*t is unlistenable. He had Segura on and for the life of me I don’t know how two talented people like them could come up with sh*t like that. I especially “loved” Rogan’s never ending long form commercials. Very classy.
What a joy Howard must be to live with. Holly cow what a weirdo he is.
Is that the cows name, holly?
He doesn't wear the pants in his house. Beth does.
Beth only there for that jew money.
The stock Shutterfly pics throughout the slide deck really added some class to the event.
How many people quit after this "summit"? This is the most demotivating meeting I've ever attended.
Your job now is to create content for my show will I play chest or waste time painting.
Well Mike Morales works for Delta now so
Boia chi molla 1922. How do you know that?
Michael McNeff II Type in “Delta Pride” in the search bar and you’ll see the video
Yeah, he sounds pissed off.
14:00 the show used to be about the funny people on staff and callers... Now he wants A list celebs to seem relevant??
"Now *Beth* wants A-List celebs ..." (ftfy)
@Mourning Star Fair point
get off his nuts
Didn't he leave Jon Bon Jovi waiting downstairs twice, and Bon Jovi just ended up leaving and going home.
The biggest point that's being missed is that even if his staff followed through and they got those A list guests, it wouldn't have mattered or added one new subscriber. Old fans hate the celebrity interviews and potential new subscribers aren't paying $15 a month for content they don't know exists, since it's behind a paywall.
Spencer Nelson I liked the show because of the semi scripted chaos. I never gave af about celebrity interviews, unless they devolved into chaos of course.
One of the most accurate takes on his career yet
He's still in the top 10 earners today. On a list with The Rock, Kylie Jenners and a bunch of athletes. Not too bad
@@angelxiii3181 you just copy and paste your comment? Cmon man...
That’s so true. Long time listeners from the DC days just appreciate and loved how they fucked with each other. Who the hell was better than Billy West? He was so funny on the show. I think now he hates being associated with the show
Sad seeing this, I used to think back in the day when his show was in its raw form that he was a man of the people. He sold out.
This is the best and most clear explanation of how the Stern show changed. Because He decided to take the show in a new direction and focus on celebrities. Howard has always been about accumulating power. Personally I have no interest in celebrity interviews and will not watch them. I liked the old Stern show which focused on the weirdness of non famous people. But you have to give the guy credit. He got mega famous, mega credit with celebrities and if worth like 500 million. The show changed because he willed it to for better or worse.
Agreed. The "regular" people he'd bring in were SO much more interesting and appealing than a celebrity interview would typically be.
@@avidlyathena I agree. RIP STERN SHOW. It was a classic never to be repeated.
agree, i have zero interest in hollywierd, howard would always trash celebs years ago, he was just mad because he couldn't hang with em.
This is literally everything he hated Don Imus for doing he had become what he always hated.
What's that line from Dark Knight? You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
@@FortunateJuice so true.
This seminar is Howard teaching his staff how to say WNNNNNNN-BC
My biggest problem with the show is how they did Scott the engineer dirty.
Haven't listened in 3 years. Don't miss it at all.
Couldn't take the celeb interviews.
Also no staff on wrap up show. Then about the time my subscription ran out they moved it to a 1pm start I think.
im in love with this comment section
I finally understand why the show changed int 2012. Before that, it lacked sturcture. After 2012, it had sturcture.
Can’t believe this is Howard stern! Thank god for all the people that upload the old Howard tv clips on UA-cam ! They’ve edited artie out of clips when they show old clips on the Howard stern show now! Shocking.
This meeting was clearly the beginning of the end. My life use to revolve around the Stern show but last year I had to cancel my Sirius sub and stop listening to the show as Howard became absolutely insufferable.
All good things have to come to an end.
@@PJxBuchwild He should have retired.
@@PJxBuchwild not by suicide
Yep I replaced Howard (after 25 years listening to him) with Joe Rogan. I don't like listening to music when I first get up and Howards show just make want to vomit now it sad it turned into this. Howard has lost all touch with reality and this is from 2013 and the show has even gotten worse I heard. I wouldn't know I canceled Sirius
this is sad - Howard used to be rock and roll, now he's Bill Gates....dude, hang it up
He’s in his sixties dude how long do you expect him to be parading strippers around constantly
Dom Battistone he doesn’t need strippers, I’m just surprised by this video as it shows him being a guy that was everything he hated. It would be like Keith Richards teaching supply chain certification programs...it’s depressing
KhalDrogo76 “Supply chain certifications”.....that’s very funny! I used to work for Boeing and every thing I did was plotted on a fucking metric chart! That’s what this reminds me of.
@@dbones8795 thats why he said hang it up.
@@dbones8795 yeah you fuckin hang it up how much money do you fucking need? I guess if your a certain type of person it will never be enough
True statement by Studdering John,,"No one ever says did you hear what happend on the Stern Show anymore"...those days of cuttting edge stern show content are over
That's why he's having this meeting
@@kirkjohnson4569 a whole lotta elitism and snobbery for nothing then
He still makes the news every now and then. When the comments about certain things. For example, about those who are unvaccinated, or that tennis player who wast kicked out of Australia because he wasn't vaccinated.
Guest interviews are the worst part of the show
90% of the time, you’re dead right.
There are some exceptions. But for the most part you're right
💯 Disagree!
@@tonicondra462 You're 100% wrong!
As a long time listener I knew this was going to happen. That move to Sirius pretty much alienated half of his audience.
The first few years were great, the gloves were off free to do whatever
Howard is like Tom Hanks in the movie ‘Big’. He’s now the teenager who grew into the Wall Street guy who people roll their eyes at.. looking at graphs, charts, data, etc...
I give Howard all the credit for achieving his goals earlier in his career.. working hard to get to the top.
But it’s impossible to stay at the top.
And this seminar is all about stubborn desire to be at the top while trying to convince an entire staff that he knows how to get them there based on his own thoughts...
No one will question the guy who’s writing their paychecks.. and I’ve heard Howard berate Gary and belittle him by stating such things.
I have to agree with missing the older version of Howard, raw and rock star.. now he’s so polished it’s borderline arrogant.
He’s always been this guy. You were tricked to make him a billionaire.
I’m old enough to remember when Howard would make fun of celebrities. The show was much funnier then.
Bring back the channel 9 show..i loved that 90-95ish era..
Fred Howland so were you.
Nicholas Valle sik burn dAwg
@@marybetheby5184 The Channel 9 show was the best! That kind of comedy sadly doesn’t exist anymore.
@@manofdef Yeah,,try pulling off a game show with the Grand Wizard of the KKK as the center square nowadays..🤣🤣🤣
This is so weird and bizarre to listen to Howard talk like this! Wow
Not really though. Could you not always see that this was the real dude underneath the face he puts on for his show? Nobody ever said: Howard is my favorite on the Stern show. And that was with the whole staff slaving to make him funny and popular. Maybe 1 person helps Robin with the same shit. And they are the most hated people on the show, and always have been
This is the most entertaining that Howard’s been in years
I grew up to Howard. Missed college classes not wanting to get out of my car because i was laughing so hard. Then maybe because i grew up. It seemed like what he is falls into one category. As egotistical and narcissistic as he is. It doesn't touch how bad a "human being" he is. Very unfortunate he was never humbled. His legacy now is great interviewer and terrible human being.
www.the-sun.com/news/977508/howard-stern-blackface-n-word/
Andrew Clayterman we all know this... stop sharing this link. Nothing new here
Andrew Clayterman uh... that’s when Howard was great and why we loved him
Well said... could not agree with you more. I listened to howard from the time i was 14 until my early 30s. I grew up. I got sick of his bullshit. I loved the old show, with howard, robin, jackie and fred. I loved artie too, but i just couldnt deal with howard anymore. He is older than me, yet i find him soo immature.
What he did to Tim Sabean was inexcusable. Only a disloyal and terrible person would do that.
Funnily enough, this was around the time I tuned out of the show.
Its funny too because you can feel these changes being put into practice. They just had Drew Barrymore on plugging her talk show and it was so vapid. But he's trying to appeal to a new audience. So be books harry stiles, cardi B, etc. Trying to stay relevant. I still like listening to his show though, he has some good guests still. And they did finally get Eddie Vedder and it was cool.
The Howard Stern show is really mediocre nowadays, but its great having UA-cam so I can watch the show when it was at its zenith!
“Show Eddie the lead singer of soundgarden on our show”
How out of touch...
Sounds like at this time Stern felt threatened by the failing popularity of his show.
He stole that from eric the midget with fake Twitter accounts hes been doing that 15 years at least
@@jamesross9906 Actually Eric The Midget accused Howards staff of making fake twitter accounts and said a former intern told ETM about it. Howard denied it and laughed it off..looks like the little guy was right.
and his popularity is still falling and falling I LOVE IT HES DONE!!!
RIP Stern show 91-06
2001 for me when Jackie Left
Guess we can now confirm exactly when Howard jumped the shark. Haha
Long before this
Basically this is Howard trying to stay relevant in a space with Twitch, UA-cam, Tik Tok, Podcasts and more. He is just noise now in the sea of everybody who has voices. Howard's voice is not one of the few. People don't care.
John misses his Daddy tho.
I listened every day for about 10 years… After Artie left the show never felt the same to me.
@Stuttering John
Thanks for all the great laughs from the early Stern years. I miss the "old days, when it was real, funny"
The Pelican Brief 😂 Brilliant
John would give his left arm to be back on that show...
Oh darn right he would. What's his podcast doin ?😂😂😂
And your point? Stern is still a POS
@@tomfogarty9664 my point is that all the bitter and former Stern show staffers would run back if he asked. I am not defending the new howard, I think his show is a repeat of the same shit 3 days a week. even with that, they all would love the chance to be back on. artie, stuttering john, and most likely shuli in a few months
as long as he keeps his cash-checking arm! 🤣👍🏼
The funniest part is Howard thinks he’s fooling people with that wig
Right. Why doesn’t he just take the wig off and be a man
Also, on 90's Stern this would have been an episode, not a backroom meeting. And instead of powerpoints, it would have been Jackie and Fred feeding the best lines.
Well, Jackie anyway
I’ve been to several annual company conferences\meetings. Some in a hotel conference room like this. Some in ball rooms in Las Vegas. How is this supposed to be shocking? Of course Howard is egotistical and a little delusional. It’s neither shocking nor interesting. If your surrounded by a bunch of ass kissers who shower you with praise and agree with everything you say then your going to get that way. Hell, Stuttering John was one of these people! The added commentary here is awkwardly sad. There seems to be a lot of pain, jealousy and resentment behind the comments.
Glad someone else said it. Started to think only I was think that
I wonder if both of these commenters Howard?
yeah its normal in a corp or reg company setting like insurance or sales, but not for david letterman, or colbert theirselves to be browbeating the rank and file staff into doing professional jobs they aren't trained in and the extra workload of another career with no extra pay lol, anyone else on the planet would just hire social media company and publicists
When is the last time you called Gilbert Gottfried, Howie?
Man, I remember the days when Howard said he'd rather interview Beetlejuice or Gary the Retard than Ellen or Aniston. Now he literally made it company policy to "kiss celebrity asses." The sad part is he didn't need it. Actors take shit jobs in commercials and really bad movies at the start of their careers for publicity. Musicians play in front of 3 people at opn-mics just to be heard. But Howard did this at the end of his career. He already had his fame and fortune. That's the point you should never sell out your principles.
Am I the only one that wishes that Artie was in this meeting
My guess is Artie either would have walked out early or not shown up at all.
He'd be snoring in the back, for sure.
Also Billy West, Jackie, and the Jackie Puppet.
Let’s be honest, though. As great as the show was years ago, Howard deserves this fall from grace.
How many former key cogs have been left in the dust and disrespected by him? Jackie, Artie, Scott, John, the whack pack. The list goes on and on.
It’s the Stern show last time I checked. It was a thing before most of the people you listed.
We’re they beneficial to the show? Yes. But they got paid, got their moments of fame and honestly Howard doesn’t owe them anything.
It’s actually the other way around. You just don’t see it that way because you don’t like the show anymore.
Howard is an old man, that’s what many people overlook. He’s a grandpa, he doesn’t want to belittle street hookers younger than his daughters anymore and that upsets you.
Those people should thank the earth they were able to be apart of the show. And the show still has a lot of listeners today.
They know way more about keeping a radio show alive and relevant way more than you do trust me. It’s insane that Howard has even been able to keep it going this long.
@@travman1987 Good one. 🤣
I agree I hate that he's gone this direction but he's getting old I mean really old. And I'm getting old and I know I have changed a lot I don't think the same way I used to. He's getting old and he doesn't want to be rowdy anymore
@@travman1987 that’s interesting because now those people are gone are so are the listeners.
@@007johndog007 although you are correct saying the show has dropped in viewers, it still has 25-30 million subscribers lol.
Why is this ridiculous I’m confused.. he’s a business man and a successful one at that.. it’s called growth .. HS is a brand and Stuttering John is commenting from a location that is not successful obviously. He always had a plan and clearly it’s worked.
@@deepwubbinz7919 Five more years!
Can't convince me otherwise. The new deal was just to make sirus stock jump
large international companies go by data and the data must have shown he was worth it, they're a publicly traded company with a board of directors and stock holders ,the numbers are the numbers ,it's not a mom and pop operation giving away 600 million dollars for a transitory gain
Dopey Stutterer should just let the video play and quit talking over it. The Stern show sucks, we get it.
Create fake Twitter accounts and hound celebrities to go on Howard...Genius 😄
Howard is done..hes not relevant now..but he thinks he is...used to love the show.
The show has been unlistenable the past 4-5 years. Richard and Sal and a few wack packers are the only good thing left. Howard just wants A list celeb interviews. The show is basically PC now.
@@PLsexpicklePL dude the shows been over since 04 when he was constatanly crying about how oppressed he was because of the FCC
this is so bizarre to watch. Granted, I haven't really listened or watched in 20 years or so since his move to XM Sirius and the E! show ended but this just seems to be the complete antithesis of what Howard used to be.
He moved to Sirius in January 2006.
The show has been unlistenable the past 4-5 years. Before that the show was still great. Now it's just interviewing A list celebs and it's PC. Very depressing.
Imagine Richard Simmons trying to convince skinny people to become fat and unhealthy
Why is it so bad that someone is trying to evolve their purpose and business? It’s a business. I still like Stern, I think it’s interesting to see someone make an attempt to evolve. But I obviously understand that others might not like the change.
This is just flat out embarrassing...
Pelican? Bro that man right there gave you a life, without him you would be absolutely nothing. No tonight show, no record deal, not Sh!t. I’d just keep quite an be happy you had a good career, which you would not have had without that “pelican”
got to have "sturcture" if you want to have systems
I dont get what the big deal is. The guy was being paid hundreds of millions of dollars to run that ship, looks like he was trying to earn it.
This staff meeting was actually held on February 3rd, 2013, not 2012.
Did someone with a professional background proofread the presentation? There are multiple grammatical, structural, capitalization, consistency issues in the slides. Yikes.
Especially with the fact that Stern always tries to correct people’s grammar.
You mean “Sturctural”
Celebs walk in and smells Richard because he doesn't shower, see's Jason and vomits looks at Benji and and Ralph then runs for thier life. 😂
7:20 holy shit John is right. "Structure" spelled wrong on Howard's powerpoint. Embarrassing.
This whole meeting could have been about 15 minutes, but he just keeps repeating the same thing
I listened to the show from 1988-2015. When Artie left the show it lost that edge it never recovered from and yes the show was still very good but not like before. It's funny how there was a meeting to find out who leaked the video and they still don't know how it happened. I'm sure we'll find out after the show finally ends.
I expected more from him. Howard’s high school project.
Why is it ALL about getting the A list celebrities? The interviews go on forever and its just Howard doing his therapist act on them (prob only reason he is in therapy)
It also waters down 101 because who wants to hear re runs of those interviews from 10 years ago?
His most fascinating guests are not A list..
Gilbert Gottfried.. best guest ever
Siruius Radio may have 23 million listeners, but Howard has about 800,000 daily. But Howard thinks that his show IS Sirius and there are no other stations! I don't know ANYONE who listens to Howard 100.
bach baroque- how did you get the 800 K listener number?
I only listen to Howard Stern, the rest of Sirius XM Pandora .... is just a waste of time. My Spotify , 8Tracks and SoundCloud do 100 times better
Howard is living in johns head rent-free lol.
AND it's a huge rent free space.....what a loser.
Wow, *howard TV you've got a job!*
He flat out lied. I remember he just dropped them live on the air in late 2013, probably less than 6 months after this weird meeting.
It’s because Depace didn’t get Rush Limbaugh on the show!!! No new Howard TV subscriptions, lol.
what they forgot was the 577 fake facebook accounts who disliked this video XD
I was just listening to old Todd packer clips yesterday of win johns job.