Usually ‘guest commentators’ detract heavily from the games, but Dash and Nillie have been great. It is frankly kind of dumb just how superior the casting is compared to some other games with legions of screaming fans...
Seems like MbL has as many accounts in Hidden Cup as he does on ladder! T90 making the marathon cast look easy again, great job! 100% Pope = Vivi... Hmm. Too polite maybe... Aaaah!
@@elianmontero644 I work at the Health Ministry of my country and still listen to the stream while working 11 I don't watch it, but I hear it like you'd hear a soccer match on the radio.
First two games I thought Lierrey because of the aggression + good macro but the rest of the game as soon as he gets pressured he falls apart and honestly doesn't really choose units with too much micro. I'm thinking Pope might be Nicov or TaToh. Gonzalos might be Barles
I'm almost positive Pope is Nicov, neither of them are MBL idk why the dude is saying that. I've watched an insane amount of MBLs stream and he has a fairly unique micro style and neither of those guys did.
Normally I would insult someone for not checking one of the E-sports wiki's (liquipedia for example) but I have no idea what there German coverage is like. They are called "snipes" and they are after draft bans. The global bans (the ones in red) happen first blind, then the civs are picked, then each player gets a "snipe" to ban one of there opponents picked civ's.
[ TIL ] From Game 2 i learned you should match your armor upgrade of your pikes with the level of attack upgrade the opponents knights have. If the knight are ahead 1 Upgrade level they kill pikes in 1 fewer hit. Otherwise 42:00
On mudflow, I think Pope Leo really need to gather a few more turtle ships before sending them out, you don't need as many as the enemy have galleys, but there were too many galleys for one alone to be effective, if he'd waited just a little he could have traded a lot better I think.
You know what would be awesome for Hidden Cup? Since names are random, you could go with names that fit each player's civs each game. Like, you pick Vikings? You are automatically given a Viking name like Harald Hardraade!
@@saulpizarro4684 No, they do not. They have no bonuses that make them a counter, and the stats are comparable. If you account for the fact that you have to produce samurai from castles, then it's actually champions that counter them, as they can be spammed from barracks.
@@undertyped1 i literally gave you the link of a video, and the time stamp, that shows you samurais do counter champions I agree its not the best counter for the reasons you said, but its still one
@@HaloNeInTheDark27 Samurai can win against champions if the numbers are even. Samurai cost 30 gold 60 food, while champions cost 20 gold 40 food. Champions counter samurai in cost, and can be massed far easier. Champions counter samurai, and not the other way around. You are literally saying that a unit that costs 50% more gold, and 50% more food, and can only win in even fights, and needs castles to produce is a counter? Even if you have enough castles, you will still be outmassed by 50% because of their 50% higher cost. The video assumes that the champions cost 60 food, which is why the samurai won, but supplies exists.
I am disappointed that Pope Leo did not try a monk ball at any point during these games. I feel like you at least have to try. Of course if they don't get to pick civs the odds of getting a good monk civ are pretty small.
Gonzalo Pizarro is 100% DauT. Great macro. Boar never lured with TC. Lots and lots of outposts. Not very focused on micro. No daut in my mind. Wait for the reveal on sunday.
First HC so forgive me if this is the case, but I'd like a UFC table (3 commentators) for the finals. Would like to see some cocasters bouncing off each other
Great series! But: That chat window is annoying and distracting. Why even showing it? Just attention-seeking people typing and spamming way too fast all the time. And at the end they all dump 'GG GG GG GG GG'. Cringy and useless.
Fuck youtube. Only channel where I can't watch at 1080 without it constantly buffering is this one, meaning yt is fucking throttling it. And they have the gall to show that stupid popup "experiencing interrruptions, find out why." Trying to waste my time, making me go through bunch of useless step, when the fault is clearly on their end, since no other channel has that problem. Come to think of it iirc, last years cup had the same problem. I remember downloading some matches to be able to watch them without this damn lag. And youtubes 720 is as blurry or worse as most sites 380. Fuck google. Edit: Lol, for days it has been laggy as fuck, even on this video, but after I posted this, it has had 0 buffering for half an hour now. Maybe I should have cursed at the damn google overlords sooner. Edit teh second: Damn it, should not have edited this post, the lags came back.
MBL is too good to be Templar even though he lamed and went Mongols. Gonzalo can only be MBL, Viper or DauT. I think Daut wouldn't throw a game blantantly just throw off the audience.
To avoid misclicking attack orders I want to increase the zoom-in and -out scroll speed of the mouse wheel but the game won't let me. Should be patched.
T90, regarding color choice: Please do not switch players into red on largely green maps. That is HORRIBLE for people with a red-green vision impairment. For some people getting rid of grey and choosing red actually made the match harder to observe. Yellow would have been a much better choice in this context.
I really like the way Tristan and Dash bounce of each other. Really enjoyable to listen to.
Professional Casters POG
yup, much more than Tristan and Nili
I actually really love Tristan + Nili, though it's definitely a different feel than the Dash combo
Some of the best I've seen.
Can I get a link to Dash's channel?
We had 5 MBLs lose in round 1
And one Mbl win
Of course they lost, they were all against MBL!
That has been the meme of this tourney for sure lol
👨🔬
"This deer has seen some stuff today"
R u calvin
@@benjoenjozero17 no Im not
Deer is MVP of this stream
I absolutely love how involved dash is and how much he actually knows. Gained alot of respect for the dude
Thanks for the upload man. I cant watch it live because of exams so i have to watch it in the little free time i have
Who cares about exams??? Aoe2 >>>>>
Gl with your exams, all the best
@@psvm_ thanks
The deer from game 1 should become a hero in HC5!
Wow did not see this going the distance like this after the first two games Cheers !! to both the players.
Spearmen vs. Galleys. Now Demo's vs. knights. When will we see Rams vs. Fireships?
John The Fearless v Le Loi had Rams galleys champions Woads light cav and DEMOS 11
This was such a great set and brilliant casting/cocasting! Thank you so much
Thumbnail says "Gonzala" lol
This was the best in Hidden Cup.
Excellent set. Both players were fantastic!
@47:36 EXCOMMUNICATED BY A ROCK
GOD'S OWN SLING CONFIRMED
jahaha, that sound "ou!"
Usually ‘guest commentators’ detract heavily from the games, but Dash and Nillie have been great.
It is frankly kind of dumb just how superior the casting is compared to some other games with legions of screaming fans...
I was really nervous about co-casters, they can ruin it. But These two have been great, they've actually increased the casting enjoyment.
because theyre still pro casters not casual casters.
The hero showdown keeps on giving!!
Damn I would never have expected this result! All matches have been so much fun so far!
Woa I knew Dash is great but the way he breaks things down and offers explanations on the way way players use mindgames is mesmerising
Thanks for posting these here, I wanted to watch HC4 live but couldn't so now I get to watch it. Awesome games.
Seems like MbL has as many accounts in Hidden Cup as he does on ladder!
T90 making the marathon cast look easy again, great job!
100% Pope = Vivi... Hmm. Too polite maybe... Aaaah!
Man I'd love to watch these live
Thank you timezones I'm on class during the stream 😭
You don't have internet in class??
@@bsh819 yeah, but it's kinda hard to study and watch a tournament
You kinda en up doing none of them 😂😂
@@elianmontero644 I work at the Health Ministry of my country and still listen to the stream while working 11
I don't watch it, but I hear it like you'd hear a soccer match on the radio.
@@kherossilverlight8400 I guess it isn't that demanding a job or my brain can't handle two complicated things at once then 😂
2:40 "Yeah Dau....definitely a bit of a mess."
Pope was muted all the time - Dave confirmed.
The name: Pope Leo
The way T90 says it: Poplio
Me: who is Puglio?
I was on the edge of finding "bulbapedia Popplio" the whole time.
Best series best casters for ages this tournament is champagne
The real winner of the first game was Deer.
First two games I thought Lierrey because of the aggression + good macro but the rest of the game as soon as he gets pressured he falls apart and honestly doesn't really choose units with too much micro. I'm thinking Pope might be Nicov or TaToh. Gonzalos might be Barles
i think pope is Nicov i saw the John the Fearless v Le loi and Le loi looks more like Tatoh to me
John the Fearless is almost 100% Hera imo
@@samirashur2153 I just watched it and I agree with those predictions
I'm almost positive Pope is Nicov, neither of them are MBL idk why the dude is saying that. I've watched an insane amount of MBLs stream and he has a fairly unique micro style and neither of those guys did.
That was hell of a game!!! Wow!
55:00 What is the meaning if the symbol on top of Chinese and Mayans?
Normally I would insult someone for not checking one of the E-sports wiki's (liquipedia for example) but I have no idea what there German coverage is like. They are called "snipes" and they are after draft bans. The global bans (the ones in red) happen first blind, then the civs are picked, then each player gets a "snipe" to ban one of there opponents picked civ's.
Can we talk about how nice the first round's bases look though? Around 8:06 especially.
Congrats, Lord Daut
Dash is a fantastic co-caster
Underrated, yet so tru comment
God damn that was a good game set.
When was the polling section? Should I check the vods?
to be fair in general the pointi bois do, in fact, counter the horsey-things
Popeeo was just Trolling in 4th game
[ TIL ] From Game 2 i learned you should match your armor upgrade of your pikes with the level of attack upgrade the opponents knights have. If the knight are ahead 1 Upgrade level they kill pikes in 1 fewer hit. Otherwise 42:00
Lmao! I can promise he regretted the "What an idiot " comment as a caster almost instantly, but it was so gut reactionary and SO deserved.
Dash is awesome!
On mudflow, I think Pope Leo really need to gather a few more turtle ships before sending them out, you don't need as many as the enemy have galleys, but there were too many galleys for one alone to be effective, if he'd waited just a little he could have traded a lot better I think.
Game three, the GG is in capitals.
Pope Vivi?
Also don't give me spoilers please cus I'm just watching hc4 slowly on yt
Dash is the man!
I'd love to see Mud Flow end up in the ladder mix
Barles maybe? He did a reverse sweep in his last series
Hidden Cup 4 Playlist please and thank you. I think you can add as you upload the next game?
I created one for my enjoyment.
You can watch it.
ua-cam.com/play/PL_NTwRliO7FTSCACt1p6A2ATymt26taHu.html
32:23 To bring them back on the left hand side he hopped into a house and deleted a palisade for that. Why didn't he delete the burning palisade?
Player color: is grey
T90: VIPER CONFIRMED
Who's here in '24 after watching HCV and getting nostalgia? 😄
You know what would be awesome for Hidden Cup? Since names are random, you could go with names that fit each player's civs each game. Like, you pick Vikings? You are automatically given a Viking name like Harald Hardraade!
ehh, but then you wouldn't keep an identity
rn the players are the heroes
2:21:00 samurai do not counter champion, samurai counter unique units, and champions are not unique units.
Samurai counter champion. It has been demonstrated
ua-cam.com/video/DMyHX6z75bE/v-deo.html at 11:40
@@saulpizarro4684 No, they do not. They have no bonuses that make them a counter, and the stats are comparable.
If you account for the fact that you have to produce samurai from castles, then it's actually champions that counter them, as they can be spammed from barracks.
@@undertyped1 i literally gave you the link of a video, and the time stamp, that shows you samurais do counter champions
I agree its not the best counter for the reasons you said, but its still one
@@HaloNeInTheDark27 Samurai can win against champions if the numbers are even. Samurai cost 30 gold 60 food, while champions cost 20 gold 40 food. Champions counter samurai in cost, and can be massed far easier. Champions counter samurai, and not the other way around.
You are literally saying that a unit that costs 50% more gold, and 50% more food, and can only win in even fights, and needs castles to produce is a counter?
Even if you have enough castles, you will still be outmassed by 50% because of their 50% higher cost.
The video assumes that the champions cost 60 food, which is why the samurai won, but supplies exists.
Ah Pope Leo, the famous Viking, you should have seen him in Ireland in 444, it was off the hook.
That monk wasn’t killed by the treb, he was struck down by god for going against the pope.
(30%)Liereyy x Vivi(75%)
(30%)Tatoh x Daut(15%)
(30%)Tatoh x Villese(10%)
(10%)Tatoh x Bact(10%)
(10%)Nicov x Vivi(90%)
(10%)Nicov x Bact(10%)
Tatoh vs Bact. That Cup game is basically a replay of last year when Tatoh took over the ENTIRE map!!!
the best part of these games are the pope slogans people come up with in the twitch chat
That super forward TC from Pope in game 4, DauT confirmed?
That has to be Daut
Love to see the Turks fully utilized in late game by Pizarro!
We need better access to participants in video description or something. It's so hard to look at participants after the fact without spoilers.
Gonzalo Viper.
Pope Leo - Liereyy vs. Gonzalo Pizarro - Jordan maybe?
man, how many hands does dash have? by commentary he has at least 4
I know they are saying "Pope Leo" but it sounds like Popplio lol.
pope leo hera? the scout micro is so good
Funny how he says “lady’s and ...” yeah that 3 women watching this are thanking you
My girlfriend is listening to this ;)
She says thanks
@@olic7266 lmfaooooo
Nicov versus Daut?
Jordan vs Daut?
Dash da best
pool's closed lol
I am disappointed that Pope Leo did not try a monk ball at any point during these games. I feel like you at least have to try. Of course if they don't get to pick civs the odds of getting a good monk civ are pretty small.
Worwolf is Daut confirmed
Spoiler:
No Pants.
Gonzalo Pizarro is 100% DauT. Great macro. Boar never lured with TC. Lots and lots of outposts. Not very focused on micro.
No daut in my mind. Wait for the reveal on sunday.
Popefully he'll be okay.
Ill show myself out
Red Jordan Blue Bacti
or barles?
Villese vs DauT
I think the AM guys did a deal to pick colour grey to recognize each other.
I doubt it, if they wanted to secretly break the anonymity, they could just message each other on their private discord or whatever.
What does the AM stand for?
@@jeremiahnovember2617 aftermath. It's a AoE2 team.
No top 5's in this one
Pope Leo - Tatoh
Gonzalo - ???? maybe Villese?
With no idea who's who, I've been choosing who to root for arbitrarily. Thought I had the winner this time but I'm 0 for 4
I think pope leo might have been vivi and I'm so sad if that's the case
We want Dave
fighty pope
Nice commentator duo. Add Nilis for the finals. He did great in the first match.
please no nili. i find his voice and sense of humor so annoying
@@shnoogums1 love nili to pieces, but sometimes he doesn't know when to drop a joke
@@shnoogums1 His style is great though. Calls it like a football game at times which was cool.
First HC so forgive me if this is the case, but I'd like a UFC table (3 commentators) for the finals. Would like to see some cocasters bouncing off each other
@@shnoogums1 same here.
Im guessing MBL is the Pope
It's Dout
Me: YAY! Turks are played!
Also Me: WTF?! No Janissaries?
Hera vs tatoh
That's coming a bit later, trust me.
Great series! But: That chat window is annoying and distracting. Why even showing it? Just attention-seeking people typing and spamming way too fast all the time. And at the end they all dump 'GG GG GG GG GG'. Cringy and useless.
for me seeing chat is at least half the fun
Fuck youtube. Only channel where I can't watch at 1080 without it constantly buffering is this one, meaning yt is fucking throttling it. And they have the gall to show that stupid popup "experiencing interrruptions, find out why." Trying to waste my time, making me go through bunch of useless step, when the fault is clearly on their end, since no other channel has that problem. Come to think of it iirc, last years cup had the same problem. I remember downloading some matches to be able to watch them without this damn lag. And youtubes 720 is as blurry or worse as most sites 380. Fuck google.
Edit: Lol, for days it has been laggy as fuck, even on this video, but after I posted this, it has had 0 buffering for half an hour now. Maybe I should have cursed at the damn google overlords sooner.
Edit teh second: Damn it, should not have edited this post, the lags came back.
MBL is too good to be Templar even though he lamed and went Mongols. Gonzalo can only be MBL, Viper or DauT. I think Daut wouldn't throw a game blantantly just throw off the audience.
Gonzala? Gorgonzola?
To avoid misclicking attack orders I want to increase the zoom-in and -out scroll speed of the mouse wheel but the game won't let me. Should be patched.
Adelante Gonzalo Pizarro!
T90, regarding color choice:
Please do not switch players into red on largely green maps. That is HORRIBLE for people with a red-green vision impairment. For some people getting rid of grey and choosing red actually made the match harder to observe. Yellow would have been a much better choice in this context.
Oof
Riot's a good caster, but man, he just talks too damn much. He ends up almost crowding T90 off his own show by sheer quantity of words.
i do reaaly like it actually, im not that experienced in the game, so every bit of information he throws is usefull to me xD
Damn caster, casting too much
About time someone does that😆
I like it, he matches T90 very well and yea new player too so i like all the info teehee
i really dislike the constant chatting about random stuff, turns the focus off of the actual game.
@T90Official: stop spoiling results by putting names in title. Some people need time to consume the content.