1. Gen 1;27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Gen 1;29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed, was the food of that man in Gen 1;27 2. Gen 2;7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Gen 2;9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;…, was the food of the man in Gen 2;7 3. So there was difference food of that man in Gen. 1:27 with the man in Gen. 2;7. This means they are 2 different humans.
"Adam and Eve" seems to be a purely philosophico scientific concept just like purusa and prakrti in the ancient Samkhya philosophy. These two entities also seem to be microcosmic, being situated within the human body, as in the Puranas. Wonder why some people pursue it so literally.
I understand what you are saying in a short paragraph. The book of Genesis covers a whole lot of concepts on a few pages that get interpreted all the time. Let me say this as best i can ,in short. I would love to tell you the story of my life but i really don't remember being born . lol
I like the effort to try and stay in two lanes so to speak. I'll remind everyone that Paul says to Timothy all scripture is God breathed and good for teaching, correction etc... Unless someone added that line into the bible other then God I'm inclined to believe scripture as it stands . The man who penned these words was killing Christians, though they weren't called Christians at that time. His total transformation is as epic as the parting of the red sea ‼️🛐✝️🤟🙏🔥
The King James version in Genesis 1:27. God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Then the King James version says in Genesis 2:5. And there was not a man to till the ground. Then Genesis 2:7 says and the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. So that leaves me believing that before God formed Adam he created male and female so that leaves me to believe there were living creatures outside of Eden. And Adam and Eve were formed not created especially for Eden????
Is Joshua Swamidass view Adam and Eve suddenly popped up into being in the garden of Eden, at the same time as the rest of mankind evovled from primates? How do we make sense of that? 🤔
Why add something that has not been mentioned in the Bible…. There is nothing stating that there were other people outside of the garden. Supposedly, Adam and Eve were the only people on earth. It’s enough confusion as of now, so adding stories just makes it more confusing. If you believe in the Bible, it says not to add anything to the word and do not take nothing away….,
You're largely arguing from silence. If the text truly is silent, then all we can do is refuse to be dogmatic in either direction, maintaining neither that X must be true nor that X must be false. The Bible does not directly mention the Americas. Does that mean that the Americas cannot exist? "If you believe in the Bible, it says not to add anything to the word and do not take nothing away….," I'm not aware of any biblical text that says this about the Bible in general. You can find very restricted versions of this sort of command (e.g., Rev 22:18-19, which deals specifically with the book of Revelation, not the Bible as a whole), but not about the Bible in general. Think about it: If such a prohibition occurs in the OT, then the NT must be illegitimate. So your view will cause the Bible to self-destruct.
@@cynthiaharvey6155 Then how is it that I can tell where the Bible says these things, while you apparently cannot? It is true that if you take a verse here and another there, they will say many amazing things that they never say if left where God put them. I keep getting this same kind of argument from atheists who tell me that the Bible says something silly, when they're really just proclaiming that they don't know how to read.
Creationists and biblical literalists will be the fall of the faith. Christianity and science aren't enemies, and the more you hold onto literal interpretations, the more ignorant you make the rest of us christians look. Go ahead and tell me im wrong ill wait
He's not saying the Bible is wrong. He's saying *you* are wrong from reading an ancient text from 1200 BC at the latest in your post-1700 modernist literal fashion.
Such a poor presentation. Nothing here is novel. He never talked about talking snake, magic tree, mystical punishment, and rather silly myth borrowed or rather stolen from surrounding nations,. Was excited to listen to this gentleman but rather poor presentation left me weary. Stick to medicine and leave theology alone.
@@tuckerbugeaterSure! Born fully Mexican and then raised in Mexico and the US. Very white supremacist. Hispanics are actually supreme. Whites are dying out.
1. Gen 1;27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1;29
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed, was the food of that man in Gen 1;27
2. Gen 2;7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2;9
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;…, was the food of the man in Gen 2;7
3. So there was difference food of that man in Gen. 1:27 with the man in Gen. 2;7. This means they are 2 different humans.
The ONLY thing that stumps me scientifically about the universe is time.😻😽
The universe doesn't use time, only man does.
The sun is not a gas, agree?
This guy obviously doesn’t know scripture
Scripture says Adam is the first man. Big problem to his theory.
@@estimatingonediscoveringthree The first man in the image of God?
I get it 🙌🏽
"Adam and Eve" seems to be a purely philosophico scientific concept just like purusa and prakrti in the ancient Samkhya philosophy. These two entities also seem to be microcosmic, being situated within the human body, as in the Puranas. Wonder why some people pursue it so literally.
I understand what you are saying in a short paragraph. The book of Genesis covers a whole lot of concepts on a few pages that get interpreted all the time. Let me say this as best i can ,in short. I would love to tell you the story of my life but i really don't remember being born . lol
I like this ..very helpful
Adam and Eve are real. It is written by God and is from the word of God, the Bible!
I personally think the complexity here expoused of a new recreation that fell so soon..would not make the recreation a viabol proposition.
I like the effort to try and stay in two lanes so to speak. I'll remind everyone that Paul says to Timothy all scripture is God breathed and good for teaching, correction etc... Unless someone added that line into the bible other then God I'm inclined to believe scripture as it stands . The man who penned these words was killing Christians, though they weren't called Christians at that time. His total transformation is as epic as the parting of the red sea ‼️🛐✝️🤟🙏🔥
You still have to understand context and genre to understand scripture.
No research required,
God with Adam, Eve and Seth
Genesis 3,
1. explains the reason for the fall
2. the chat between God, Satan, and Eve
The King James version in Genesis 1:27. God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Then the King James version says in Genesis 2:5. And there was not a man to till the ground. Then Genesis 2:7 says and the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. So that leaves me believing that before God formed Adam he created male and female so that leaves me to believe there were living creatures outside of Eden. And Adam and Eve were formed not created especially for Eden????
Bingo. 😎👉🏻👉🏻
Is Joshua Swamidass view Adam and Eve suddenly popped up into being in the garden of Eden, at the same time as the rest of mankind evovled from primates? How do we make sense of that? 🤔
No.
Why add something that has not been mentioned in the Bible…. There is nothing stating that there were other people outside of the garden. Supposedly, Adam and Eve were the only people on earth. It’s enough confusion as of now, so adding stories just makes it more confusing. If you believe in the Bible, it says not to add anything to the word and do not take nothing away….,
Actually it directly implies there were people outside. Gen 4:14-17.
You're largely arguing from silence. If the text truly is silent, then all we can do is refuse to be dogmatic in either direction, maintaining neither that X must be true nor that X must be false. The Bible does not directly mention the Americas. Does that mean that the Americas cannot exist?
"If you believe in the Bible, it says not to add anything to the word and do not take nothing away….," I'm not aware of any biblical text that says this about the Bible in general. You can find very restricted versions of this sort of command (e.g., Rev 22:18-19, which deals specifically with the book of Revelation, not the Bible as a whole), but not about the Bible in general. Think about it: If such a prohibition occurs in the OT, then the NT must be illegitimate. So your view will cause the Bible to self-destruct.
@@stephenrice2063 that's your opinion. From my studying of the Bible what I said was what I've learned.
@@cynthiaharvey6155 Then how is it that I can tell where the Bible says these things, while you apparently cannot? It is true that if you take a verse here and another there, they will say many amazing things that they never say if left where God put them.
I keep getting this same kind of argument from atheists who tell me that the Bible says something silly, when they're really just proclaiming that they don't know how to read.
@@stephenrice2063 it's so sad that you all can't read.
Creationists and biblical literalists will be the fall of the faith. Christianity and science aren't enemies, and the more you hold onto literal interpretations, the more ignorant you make the rest of us christians look. Go ahead and tell me im wrong ill wait
I agree so much.
You're wrong!
(Not about this, but I'm sure I'll find something you're wrong about!)
No can’t go with this, where do we stand with original sin? We are presented with different time lines?
One day soon you will find out you are wrong and the Bible is right period
He's not saying the Bible is wrong. He's saying *you* are wrong from reading an ancient text from 1200 BC at the latest in your post-1700 modernist literal fashion.
What’s it called???? Square per - round hole? This is contrived
Such a poor presentation. Nothing here is novel. He never talked about talking snake, magic tree, mystical punishment, and rather silly myth borrowed or rather stolen from surrounding nations,. Was excited to listen to this gentleman but rather poor presentation left me weary. Stick to medicine and leave theology alone.
No talking snake..that is a description of his curse
Decent speech from Swampass, the Hindu. But it seems well researched
He says he is Christian and raised as such.
I'm sure the original poster Alberto Martinez is a white supremacist LOL
@@tuckerbugeaterSure! Born fully Mexican and then raised in Mexico and the US. Very white supremacist. Hispanics are actually supreme. Whites are dying out.