Nikon Z6 III vs Canon R6 Mark II vs Sony a7 IV: Which Camera SHOULD You Buy?

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  2 місяці тому +60

    Minor corrections: the Z6 III does 1 second pre-capture up to 120fps in jpg only with the same caveats as C120 (dx/11mp), but can also capture full res jpgs up to 60fps pre-capture with C60. Also, the a7 IV does have a variable shutter, although it's basically unusable with it's electronic shutter.

    • @truthseeker6804
      @truthseeker6804 2 місяці тому +6

      im sure the Nikon doesn't record video to both cards

    • @EhsanBhowanaProduction
      @EhsanBhowanaProduction 2 місяці тому +3

      i am using sony a7iv and still happy with this bad boy

    • @sancza1
      @sancza1 2 місяці тому +4

      A small addition: in the a7iv, slot 1 can also accept UHS-II SD card in addition to CF express. So the A7IV can be used with 2 SD cards or 1CF Express and 1 SD card at the same time

    • @RealThore
      @RealThore 2 місяці тому

      @@froknowsphoto minor correction: the A7iv has a variable shutter as well (which is unuseable with that slow ass sensor)

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  2 місяці тому +2

      @@RealThore thanks, I added that to the list. Forgot it had one since it's unusable like you said.

  • @scottanderson2114
    @scottanderson2114 2 місяці тому +87

    For the checkmarks tally
    Nikon Z6 III: 7.75
    Canon R6 Mark II: 2.5
    Sony a7 IV: -8732.5
    A little low for the Sony but the Z6 III being about 3 times as good as the R6 Mark II seems right.

    • @percloroy
      @percloroy 2 місяці тому +1

      Sony has better image quality. That's all, or almost all!

    • @tourinojacks5844
      @tourinojacks5844 Місяць тому

      Did you say (-8732.5) for Sony? 😅😂🤣Killing me wit that one. 😂😅

    • @paulhopkins1905
      @paulhopkins1905 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@percloroy how do you figure?

    • @denniemullete
      @denniemullete Місяць тому +1

      @@percloroy sorry but u ever use Nikon ? i'm a canon shooter but my opinion from my experience about 15 years using canon, outdoor shoot, Nikon beat all canon and sony. For Studio Shoot, The skin tone and sharpness of Nikor glass is amazing. So why i'm use canon ... ? cuz my need of photo and video, run and gun Canon more versitile ... maybe until Z6iii come out

    • @roadhouse8604
      @roadhouse8604 24 дні тому +2

      @@percloroy Sony easily has the WORST image quality of the three. It's the reason why you'll never find a Sony in the hands of a professional studio photographer. Both Canon and Nikon image quality is far better- always has been.

  • @tstanley01
    @tstanley01 2 місяці тому +54

    I like the Nikon system for an enthusiast. Their 24-120 f4 and the s line of small f1.8 primes, are pretty hard to beat. Their high end stuff is top of the line also. Canon either has dinky cheap stuff or pro grade gear. Nothing in the middle with great optics.

    • @nickwilliams7867
      @nickwilliams7867 2 місяці тому +3

      Nikon lack of s-line 24 35 50 and 85 f1.4 lenses stopped me going Nikon. Yes they have lenses like the excellent 85 f1.2 but that thing is heavy at 1160g compared to both Sigmas excellent 85 f1.4 and Sony new 85 f1.4 both come in the 600-700 g range. Shooting all day with a 1.16KG lens is not my idea of fun. So for me up to 300mm Sony has the best glass but after 300mm I would give it to Nikon. Having said all that the Z8 is amazing value for money compared to Sonys A1 and A9III yes different cameras but they are all at the high end of the camera ranges.

    • @TasteofTaboo
      @TasteofTaboo 2 місяці тому +3

      @@nickwilliams7867 looking sad at my 50mm 1.8s and 24mm 1.8s ...
      the 50 1.8s is really better that anything else from any other manufacturers in 50mm

    • @saibhargavamanda1062
      @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@nickwilliams7867true ! Im a Nikon shooter from past 9yrs n this hurts me everyday. Im neither satisfied with 1.8S because they lack character nor cant afford 1.2S . even if i afford , usability of them because of thier weight hampers my shooting agility. They are hard to balance on gimbal. I want to transform myself into a hybrid shooter becuz i believe thats what the future is but not having pro 1.4S line lenses is suffucating me to switch to sony

    • @nickwilliams7867
      @nickwilliams7867 2 місяці тому

      @@TasteofTaboo I did buy the 50 F1.8S along with the Z8 great lens but no better than my Sony's. I prefer the build of the Sonys with the Aperture ring and to me I much prefer the pop I get from a f1.4. I found the F1.8 to be too close to the look of my f2.8 zooms.

    • @saibhargavamanda1062
      @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому +1

      One thing nikon lacks today is they are making good hybrid bodies but they dont have good set of hybrid lenses.
      1.8S are sharp yet not so satisfactory in charecter
      1.2S are grt but heavy n expensive
      1.4 are not S line which means they aren't good for photographers as they fail in backlight situations.
      There's no pro prime lense yet in the range of 24-35
      I feel Nikon should also make 1.4S line like sony GM as they are a good balance of weight quality character price and grt for hybrid shooters. I belive being hybrid n diverse is the future

  • @StandardYoutuberExcellent
    @StandardYoutuberExcellent 2 місяці тому +53

    Canon should always take a HUGE hit because of it's mount 3rd party prohibition. The consumer is GREATLY disadvantage from the start. It's no small thing.

  • @Juan_Mecha
    @Juan_Mecha 2 місяці тому +45

    Five years ago I was watching these comparisons and I bought my first camera and have not regret it and now here I am once again thanks Jared

    • @tourinojacks5844
      @tourinojacks5844 Місяць тому +1

      And what was that? You never told us within your post.

  • @sojanthomas277
    @sojanthomas277 Місяць тому

    Thanks

  • @yoshimuroi7771
    @yoshimuroi7771 2 місяці тому +22

    Very good review, minor correction at 9:56
    The Z6III does do pre release capture at 120fps

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  2 місяці тому +10

      Thanks for the correction, noted in the pinned comment

  • @shadow479
    @shadow479 2 місяці тому +26

    Nikon Z mount has the largest diameter so you can adapt lenses from multiple other mounts, plus there other third party sellers from China. And then there’s the F mount Nikkor lenses.
    I think the Nikon cameras are pretty interesting, there’s a lot of potential.
    So far I am loving my Z6III that replaced my Z6II.

    • @Ben_Stewart
      @Ben_Stewart 2 місяці тому +3

      @@shadow479 the Z6ii is a gem. Much like its predecessor. I kept mine and modded it for h-alpha wavelengths. ✨

    • @saibhargavamanda1062
      @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому

      One thing nikon lacks today is they are making good hybrid bodies but they dont have good set of hybrid lenses.
      1.8S are sharp yet not so satisfactory in charecter
      1.2S are grt but heavy n expensive
      1.4 are not S line which means they aren't good for photographers as they fail in backlight situations.
      There's no pro prime lense yet in the range of 24-35
      I feel Nikon should also make 1.4S line like sony GM as they are a good balance of weight quality character price and grt for hybrid shooters. I belive being hybrid n diverse is the future

    • @aman681
      @aman681 День тому

      Hows the autofocus speed and accuracy in low light conditions?

  • @kimmimaloney
    @kimmimaloney 2 місяці тому +21

    I want the z6III, I have a z6 and a z9. I love my z9 and I would love to upgrade my z6 for the z6III, seems like it would be the perfect second body for me.

  • @Bruno_fyi
    @Bruno_fyi 2 місяці тому +10

    The Sony A7IV does have 2 UHS-II SD card slots and allows for simultaneous recording to both cards at the same time.

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 2 місяці тому +3

      Yes, cfexpress type A slots are always backwards compatible with SD, and the dual recording was mentioned

  • @chentouchhe3650
    @chentouchhe3650 2 місяці тому +17

    I love Canon AF system but Image quality of Nikon so good

  • @AGoogleUser-h2r
    @AGoogleUser-h2r 3 дні тому

    Hi Jared, I have followed you FOR years. Well, I was ready to upgrade my camera in 2024. For years I been using a Canon 7D mark II. I Shot Sports, Grand Prix Races, concerts, landscapes, through the Alaska territory ICE and frozen conditions and Portraits. It’s still a BEAST! It still serving me well and probably for a backup camera too. For Christmas I pulled the trigger on the R6 mark II. Because of the Full Frame Sensor and the A.I. detection. I have a collection of EF “L” glass. So, with the R-EF adapter. Ken Rockwell reported it works fine.
    Keep up the good work Jared!👍📸📷

  • @tourinojacks5844
    @tourinojacks5844 20 днів тому

    You are DEFINITELY one of my favorite camera body reviewers in the game. Always hitting on the important details that we really need to know. Gratzi muchozo! 💯 📸

  • @johnw.3636
    @johnw.3636 2 місяці тому +96

    Spoiler Alert: The Nikon loses. (It's Jared after all)
    Spoiler Alert: I'm still getting it.

    • @Mark-ds7ug
      @Mark-ds7ug 2 місяці тому +11

      You beat me to it. This is what I was going to say.😂

    • @johnw.3636
      @johnw.3636 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Mark-ds7ug 😂

    • @panzer3279
      @panzer3279 2 місяці тому +7

      For me the Z6iii wins in everything except Dynamic range. Quite unbelievable that Nikon has poor dynamic range than a Canon.

    • @Ben_Stewart
      @Ben_Stewart 2 місяці тому +12

      @@panzer3279I bet you can't even tell the difference.

    • @lelandfitz1762
      @lelandfitz1762 2 місяці тому +5

      The way he claimed he doesn’t know what Nikon calls it’s premium lens line was hilarious.

  • @f800gt76
    @f800gt76 2 місяці тому +12

    I've bought R6MII two years ago in the very first day after release to replace my good-old 6D. Solid upgrade, very nice camera that fits all my EF glass without any problem (I'm also shooting film with EOS3 and don't buy RF glass). If you already have some Canon or Nikon - just buy a new body and stay with the system... they offers almost the same for almost the same money.

    • @AGoogleUser-h2r
      @AGoogleUser-h2r 3 дні тому

      Ken Rockwell, said EF lenses works fine with the R-EF adapter.

  • @3DJunkieDude
    @3DJunkieDude 2 місяці тому +5

    Nikon Z mount with the Fringer EF-Z adapter allows you to mount EF glass from Canon, Sigma, & Tamron onto a Z mount Nikon. Even though I have the Nikkor Z 100-400S for my Z8, I love being able to put my Canon EF 100-400L MkII lens on the Z8. It really is the best of both worlds!
    The longer Canon waits to let 3rd party lens makers design and build for the RF mount, the more people are going to start gravitating to Sony & Nikon.

  • @GG_Wolves
    @GG_Wolves 2 місяці тому +14

    I have recently bought a r6 mark ii as an upgrade from the Rebel t7. And your videos were a great help in make it the right choice of camera❤

    • @crostrummer
      @crostrummer Місяць тому

      You just showed that his videos forced you to make a wrong choice 😂

  • @facu_eze_peralta
    @facu_eze_peralta 2 місяці тому +12

    I have a nikon Z5 and D7200, I'll get for sure the Z6III I need the raw video 10bits. I'd really love to have that video quality.

    • @bigboi36
      @bigboi36 2 місяці тому +1

      It has 14 bit

    • @sottosopra4769
      @sottosopra4769 Місяць тому

      why you need raw video? if you are not a professional raw is just a waste of resource of your pc and memory card

  • @q5rwi1
    @q5rwi1 2 місяці тому +7

    I sold my Z6ii and upgraded to the Zf. The Expeed 7 is light years ahead of dual Expeed 6's. I donr shoot video so the only reason for me to pick the z6iii would be the ergonomics and battery grip.

    • @SUNNY91911
      @SUNNY91911 2 місяці тому

      How is zf performing for you? Do you think r6ii or z6iii much much better?

    • @18yearsoldnot
      @18yearsoldnot 2 місяці тому +1

      Interesting. I just sold my z5 and can’t decide what to get next. Not happy with the dynamic range of the z6iii and not happy with the viewfinder and ergonomics of the zf

    • @SUNNY91911
      @SUNNY91911 2 місяці тому +1

      @18yearsoldnot what is not good with the viewfinder? And how about using zf with extra grip? Actually I am planning to huy one. Or r6ii

    • @18yearsoldnot
      @18yearsoldnot 2 місяці тому

      @@SUNNY91911 I think once you add the grip to a zf it will be as heavy as a Leica sl2-s which used, you can get at the same price as a z6iii. The Leica has the dynamic range, smooth tones and big evf I want. I have like 4 l mount lenses for my fp and tl2 so for me it may be cheaper to go Leica. The thing I will lose is the more modern ibis and manual focus assist stuff the zf and z6iii have.

  • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
    @JasonMorrisphotocinema 2 місяці тому +22

    Been waiting for this 🎉

    • @wh3540
      @wh3540 2 місяці тому

      Damn that was fast

    • @tstanley01
      @tstanley01 2 місяці тому +1

      Not trying to be a jerk, but why? Would you really switch brands for a very marginal (bordering on insignificant) performance gain on an entry level body?

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tstanley01 some cameras have features that suits a particular job. A tool for the right job

    • @jordanmitchell1433
      @jordanmitchell1433 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tstanley01 I switched from Sony A7iv, a7iii and FX3 to Canon when they introduced the R6ii. I run it along an R5C and the Canon cameras kick ass

  • @tourinojacks5844
    @tourinojacks5844 Місяць тому +1

    As a R6ii, a7iii, and Z6 original owner, I am glad to see this review. I have been wanting to upgrade my Sony and Nikon so this helps. I may get a second R6ii as my next body or jump up to the R5, a7v, Z6iii, Z9, or Z8. I want the camera that will give me the best workflow and lens choices. I Love Tamron and Sigma Art series. I also Love Nikon glass as well. Less time is spent editing your photos when you get the shot right in the beginning.

  • @dmfinpa
    @dmfinpa 2 місяці тому +3

    I always learn something from the fro videos. I have the R6ii coming up on a year now. Have had mixed results, probably because I do not have it set up optimally. Mostly I am using the 100-500 RF zoom lens. I seem to have the most problem with anything in flight, even aircraft, getting the combination to lock in on sharp focus. I miss too many shots. I need a training class on this camera specifically. I came out of a 7Dii w/ 100-400 Canon zoom.

  • @yesmanhk
    @yesmanhk 2 місяці тому +2

    i'm still using D750 with all nikon F-mount glass, what feature will i lost if i put the adaptor and use the z6iii ? thanks all

  • @TheTrailDancer
    @TheTrailDancer 18 днів тому

    Nice Vid...
    How does Fuji compare ?

  • @iu1191
    @iu1191 28 днів тому

    Sooo good. Nailed it again.
    I am not even in the market, but this video was sooooo informative.
    I am a Z6II shooter and I love it. I have no idea what would make me ever upgrade at this point.
    Great vid.
    Got me eyeing the Z6iii but not even tempted to buy - just looking at it and thinking about what KI can do with the Z6II that I have.

  • @ashiish4739
    @ashiish4739 2 місяці тому +1

    Why you keep Panasonic lumix S5iix out of your list ?

    • @Democratiser
      @Democratiser Місяць тому +1

      Yeah I think the S5IIX is the best of the lot! Especially for video.

  • @priyankardas2668
    @priyankardas2668 2 місяці тому +1

    Will R6 M2 be still a good option considering R6 M3 is going to be announced soon?

  • @aaronwlkr
    @aaronwlkr 2 місяці тому +6

    how come no Panasonic Lumix S5 II

  • @LiveMusicVideos
    @LiveMusicVideos 2 місяці тому +4

    Great video, can't believe I watch it all even if I'm not going to buy one of those having the Z7ii already however is good to see how the Z6iii improved the Nikon line

  • @FGGiskard
    @FGGiskard 14 днів тому

    18:52 at the same time, tbh I dont really see the point of shooting wide open at f/1.2 in daylight, I always consider it a great resource for low-light situation though

  • @amolsharma6270
    @amolsharma6270 2 місяці тому +2

    Finally after waiting for weeks my confusion is clear ❤️ thanks Jared👍

  • @justindalme9472
    @justindalme9472 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for the segment on using the viewfinder! So many crooked photos from people using the flip out screens.

  • @David-k4i
    @David-k4i Місяць тому

    I'd easily go with the R6II also I love using the EVF. I plan on getting the R50 as my first camera I'd love to hear your thoughts!

  • @115chandler1
    @115chandler1 2 місяці тому +2

    can you do a video about the pros and cons of 12 vs 14 bit? I have the r6mii and shoot in the electronic shutter 99% of the time. is there a significant difference?
    and does it automatically change from 12 bit to 14 bit when you change it to mechanical shutter?
    thanks

    • @williambuford6136
      @williambuford6136 2 місяці тому

      You can notice the difference in certain settings for video. If you have lots of a single color family in your Video or stills you will notice.

  • @DieHardEddieEdwards
    @DieHardEddieEdwards 2 місяці тому +25

    I don’t get the bit about how a new Canon will threaten the Z6 III. We’ve reached a point of maturity with all three systems that there’s not really a big jump to be made until there’s some huge technological breakthrough. Especially given what most people use this range of cameras for.

    • @entphotoentphoto-pn5me
      @entphotoentphoto-pn5me 2 місяці тому +4

      Canon released R5 m2 to beat Nikon Z8, but it was unseccessful attempt.

    • @DieHardEddieEdwards
      @DieHardEddieEdwards 2 місяці тому +9

      @@entphotoentphoto-pn5me Jared strongly prefers Canon, but there isn’t a big gap between any of the three brands anymore. We should stop acting like someone is going to come in and blow everyone else away. That’s over.

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 2 місяці тому

      @entphotoentphoto-pn5me not sure what aspects Z8 is better than R5mkII ?

    • @DieHardEddieEdwards
      @DieHardEddieEdwards 2 місяці тому +7

      @@gourami7 Video. It has oversampled 4K/60 and the R5 II doesn't. But this is the issue with this view of cameras. To "beat" the next camera these days, they just increase the FPS by 10 and then people on UA-cam will go nuts.

    • @entphotoentphoto-pn5me
      @entphotoentphoto-pn5me 2 місяці тому +3

      @@gourami7 In reality they are essentially almost the same cameras. But! There's always but. But the fact that Z8 has better sensor read out speed is the advantage of nikon. This readout speed affects video footage as well (less rolling shutter).

  • @framed-tales
    @framed-tales 2 місяці тому +2

    Hi @Jared, Nikon Z8 (fully stacked sensor) is selling for $3496, does it have lower scan rate than Nikon Z6III under $4000?

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 2 місяці тому +6

      Nikon’s official wording when z6 III came out, because MSRP of z8 is $4k, not including sale price. Z8 is much faster around 4ms

    • @framed-tales
      @framed-tales 2 місяці тому

      @@stepheneckert4006 thanks for the info

    • @marqman05
      @marqman05 2 місяці тому

      Technically yes, maybe they should switch it to under $3000

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 2 місяці тому

      ​@@stepheneckert4006 4 miliseconds is very good, a full frame mirrorless shutter takes 6 miliseconds from when the curtains start exposing the sensor to when they finish the traveling (not adding the obnoxious long time where they close, move down before exposure, and close again and open after exposure which is roughly 10-20 miliseconds)

    • @lsaideOK
      @lsaideOK 2 місяці тому +3

      Which allows for blackout free shooting with the z8. In my brief handling of both, the z8s AF is faster, surer, and stickier particularly with off-brand lenses.

  • @UsmanSultan
    @UsmanSultan Місяць тому

    Why Lumix S5IIX not o the list ? It has on same price range

  • @marcusbeasley3212
    @marcusbeasley3212 2 місяці тому +5

    I'm entrenched in Nikon, I'd be getting a Z6III to pair with my Z9 (shooting events on two 45mp cameras is ooh boy a nightmare). I'm also on Fuji X and G mount. If I still liked Sony I'd get an A7IV. It's getting to the point where the answer is "get the system that has the glass you want." All of these camera manufacturers are making capable cameras.

    • @kevinrtres
      @kevinrtres 2 місяці тому

      Fully agree. So I'm just waiting for the A7V - skipped the A7IV because it had too many things lacking that just irked me. With CaNikon coming out with great new cameras ( versions III ) Sony will be forced to really up the game and bring out rational improvements.

    • @marcusbeasley3212
      @marcusbeasley3212 2 місяці тому

      @@kevinrtres Or not. I kind of think current Sony is hitting the trajectory of old school Canon.

  • @lesgregory4469
    @lesgregory4469 2 місяці тому +15

    Been shooting Nikon for a long time, love their files, I still have a D850 and quite a bit of F mount glass, I also use a Z 7ll and for my work the autofocus is fine. I bought the Z 6lll on its release and I can safely say although less resolution than I normally been using last few years I am in no way disappointed with the Z 6lll. Autofocus is great and image quality is fantastic as I have always expected from Nikon

    • @johnw.3636
      @johnw.3636 2 місяці тому

      @@lesgregory4469 I can't wait to get mine.

    • @saibhargavamanda1062
      @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому

      Im a nikon shooter too but Lack 1.4 S line pro lenses bugs me being a hybrid shooter

  • @trezegol2007
    @trezegol2007 2 місяці тому +2

    As someone who was seriously considering and thinking of buying the 7A4 before the end of the year, this clip has stirred up a lot of things in my mind and making me reconsidering big time 🤔🤨🤔... I actually came from Canon (APS-C) before switching to Sony for my 1st full frame camera mainly because Sony was getting lots of positive reviews and also a plus factor (still) being the fact there are way more lens options for the Sony mount, hence you have more options for every budget. Now I'd still not go to Nikon mainly because I don't like the fact you have so little lens options unless you stick with Nikon obviously, but I like to have the choice between native and 3rd party lenses. Jared briefly mentioned a prossible 7A5 which could come out, or not, there's no info at all about that I believe. Still I keep in mind, it was somewhat an unfair comparison though one can say, it was obvious from the start the Sony would be thrashed by the other 2. If you don't have any of these 3 brands or are new to full-frame I get the outcome of the tests, but in my case, I should not have watched the video 🤣 ...

  • @1dareu2mov3
    @1dareu2mov3 2 місяці тому +96

    Unfortunately none of them because I can’t afford any of them 😭

    • @Ehbraham
      @Ehbraham 2 місяці тому +11

      I bought an R8 for $1199, it 90% the same as R6II

    • @endowpictures22
      @endowpictures22 2 місяці тому +5

      I will rather invest on lens than body

    • @1dareu2mov3
      @1dareu2mov3 2 місяці тому +4

      @@endowpictures22 Well, I’m kinda due for an upgrade. My current camera is a Nikon D7100. The problem is I don’t do enough photography to justify buying a new camera

    • @endowpictures22
      @endowpictures22 2 місяці тому

      @@1dareu2mov3 if u get d7200 with good lens....it is wow....that Camera is one of my dream gear....I shoot canon though

    • @VishwasRavindran92
      @VishwasRavindran92 2 місяці тому

      Why so ? Are you banned to purchase by all these three brands ?

  • @saibhargavamanda1062
    @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому +4

    Im a nikon shooter thinking of switching to sony when they launch a7v. Even though i like nikon image quality. The lack 1.4 S line pro lenses is the big main reason. Hope sony dosent dissapoint with a7v skintones

    • @saibhargavamanda1062
      @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому

      Hybrid shooters need them as they are a good balance of quality, charecter, weight n price .
      Sony fortunately or unfortunately stuck n make good set of well balanced GM 1.4 lenses whchis good for hybrid shooters
      If not GM , sony has an amazing support from sigma n zeiss

    • @michaelf7742
      @michaelf7742 2 місяці тому

      I went from Nikon to Canon, because the AF of the z6 was langging. I still think I had most fun with the Nikon System. I think that is something that is also quite important besides lenses and everything else…

    • @kevinrtres
      @kevinrtres 2 місяці тому

      @@michaelf7742 Can get expensive real fast hopping from one system to the other....even if able to sell the old gear....

    • @Democratiser
      @Democratiser Місяць тому

      LUMIX S5IIX?

  • @HagaishiSama
    @HagaishiSama 2 місяці тому +1

    Have you ever done a comparison video like this but for apsc cameras?

  • @kais295
    @kais295 2 місяці тому +21

    I had a z6ii for a while. I got a r6 ii last December. I'm glad i made the switch

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 2 місяці тому +4

      What made you switch systems?

  • @SpencerTech
    @SpencerTech 2 місяці тому +1

    i have the canon r6mkii and its been my alltime favorite camera, your review was one of the reasons i got one two years ago

  • @paulyeung6608
    @paulyeung6608 2 місяці тому +3

    It may be important to note the a7 iv can fit an sd card in its cfe type a bay. Thank you ☺️

  • @radimpalus
    @radimpalus 2 місяці тому +4

    Why did You omit the Lumix S5II in the comparison?

    • @pawelmod3292
      @pawelmod3292 2 місяці тому +1

      He is comparing the most popular cameras ;-)

  • @DebbieChristopher-t9v
    @DebbieChristopher-t9v 2 місяці тому +1

    Bought the Nikon z6iii a couple of months ago, use it with some of my old Nikon lenses and the adapter. Very happy with the speed, pre capture and autofocus and I do a lot of sports under floodlights or low light.

  • @MrHectorsm
    @MrHectorsm 2 місяці тому +14

    I got the Z6iii. Mostly because I already had Nikon lenses and flashes, but R6ii was tempting because of the price.

  • @jamiefeldman3979
    @jamiefeldman3979 2 місяці тому +1

    Went with the Canon R6MII, love it. Often use C-RAW and avoid buffer issues.

  • @TRobBrownPhotography
    @TRobBrownPhotography 2 місяці тому +1

    Mechanical shutters haven't always topped out at 1/8000. Have you looked at the Nikon D1, D1h and Canon EOS 1d? All three were 1/16000th with mechanical shutter. They also had a 1/500 flash sync.

    • @VishwasRavindran92
      @VishwasRavindran92 2 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely correct

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  2 місяці тому +4

      I’m referring to full frame cameras from the main digital era that top out at 1/8000 mechanical

    • @TRobBrownPhotography
      @TRobBrownPhotography 2 місяці тому

      @froknowsphoto Yeah, that works. I had a similar issue with our course textbook for the intro course listing the incorrect top shutter speed and flash sync for mechanical focal plane (vertical travel) shutters.

  • @RealThore
    @RealThore 2 місяці тому +4

    I ordered my first A7iv right when it launched and got one of the first in Europe. Bought a second one in June last year to have to same bodies when shooting concert. Had awesome 2 1/2 years and about 100k shots on my first body, right at the 100k mark the shutter died. My other cam is at about 70k shots.
    I think the A7iv is a great value, when you can get a good deal or even buy it used from a hobbyist with like 5k shots on it and have a solid camera for the next 5-10 years but for professional work it shows it’s age. 60FPS crop sucks when shooting wide angle, the readout speed is atrocious and shooting e-shutter isn’t an option at all (maybe when shooting landscape on a tripod to avoid shutter shock). The burst speed was bad compared to the R6 mark 1 which released more than a year earlier and it’s frustrating. Broad daylight compressed raw at 10fps is okay but as soon as it’s getting dark and you wanna recover the shadows I always go to the 6-7ish fps in lossless compressed raw.
    Compared to the R6(ii) I prefer the 33mp. I can easily crop from horizontal to vertical in post (pls don’t kill me Jared) and still have 13.5mp (3000x4500px is my default export resolution for clients). And OMG I love full size HDMI. I cannot believe how many of these awful micro HDMI cables got bent in my life and the full size is just awesome. Shame on canon for having it only in the R5ii.
    Yet the failure of a shutter at such a low shutter count and Sonys insanely bad customer support (spotted a dead pixel after 1 1/2 years of use and Sony refused to repair it, violating EU law) I‘m really tempted to switch to the canon R5ii

    • @panzer3279
      @panzer3279 2 місяці тому +1

      Since you're a professional, you should only buy from Canon and Nikon. Sony cameras are of poor quality, designed to fail after a few years and offshored to Thailand.
      Meanwhile, Canon makes their pro bodies and lenses in Japan. Nikon also makes in Thailand, but their quality is far superior than Sony.

    • @RealThore
      @RealThore 2 місяці тому +2

      @@panzer3279 I think with enough bad luck I’d have had the same issue with Nikon or Canon. Saying Sony builds garbage is like saying that all BMWs are bad because they had a fault with one model

  • @Ginkoman2
    @Ginkoman2 2 місяці тому +1

    shot canon for over 15 years, now its time for an upgrade. but i switched to the a 7 iv cause canon still hasent opened up the rf mount for third party lenses.

  • @quadcorei8085gen2
    @quadcorei8085gen2 2 місяці тому

    I found the following lenses for RF mount:
    7artisans(18) AstrHori(8) Canon(49) Great Joy(1) Irix(8) Laowa(38) Lensbaby(3) Meike(12) Mitakon(1) Nisi(8) Samyang(8) Sigma(2) Sirui(12) Tokina(1) TTArtisan(15) Voigtländer(3)
    Am i wrong?

  • @Wolfelliby
    @Wolfelliby 21 день тому

    I decided to go from Z6 to the Z6 III
    Trade in value and rebate made the price enticing to me!

  • @sandrahildebrand4475
    @sandrahildebrand4475 2 місяці тому +1

    What about glass selection???

  • @capturecreations5065
    @capturecreations5065 Місяць тому

    It has been quite a long since we have seen a Nikon get this much check marks from Jared. Being a Nikon shooter feels really happy to know that they have improved a lot. Hope they keep up with time.

  • @TheSeniorGolfMan
    @TheSeniorGolfMan 2 місяці тому +1

    Maybe it is an ingrained habit, but I use my Nikon top LED display a lot, especially when on a tripod. Mainly for Battery life, shutter speed and f-stop. Thank you for the reviews, very interesting.

  • @DerbJd
    @DerbJd 2 місяці тому

    How to shoot motion in low light. Duel base iso 3200. F1.4 lens. Shutter speed appropriate. Job done.

  • @brandonsmith3151
    @brandonsmith3151 2 місяці тому

    Where does the Sony A9 II fit in compared to these cameras? Buying new, it’s obviously much more expensive, but for those of us who only buy used gear, it’s currently going for just a bit more than an A7 IV or an R6 II.

  • @unclebuck5957
    @unclebuck5957 2 місяці тому +10

    Shoot with Canon my whole life started with the F1

  • @aliciapaxton1346
    @aliciapaxton1346 2 місяці тому

    Hi Jared do you do a tutorial of Nikon D780? I can't find it I can find a story about it coming out.

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 2 місяці тому +2

      That camera came out right around when the world shut down from the pandemic (early 2020) so we never reviewed it along with most people. Also, everything was transitioning into the mirrorless world and it was odd for nikon to go backwards 2 years after the z6/z7 were launched. Same reason you wont find many D6 reviews online

    • @aliciapaxton1346
      @aliciapaxton1346 2 місяці тому

      @@stepheneckert4006 I have a pretty badly looked after d3200. I'm only starting, I went to a class last year, teacher really didn't teach me much. This year's teacher seems better.... and wanting to upgrade but not to mirrorless yet. I liked his (Jared) videos. They are easy to understand, there's so much info everywhere yet so many are too hard to understand lol. Thanks for the reply take care 😊

  • @tomekeziowski4293
    @tomekeziowski4293 2 місяці тому

    What about the autofocus in z6III with F-mount lenses. Is it finally working properly or is it still crap. I shoot action quite often.

  • @MrSantaishappy
    @MrSantaishappy 2 місяці тому +1

    Right this time, perhaps not a good idea to choose any of these 3 cameras. Rumours had it that Q1 2025 we'll be expecting new Sony A7V and Canon R6iii, if buyers can just hold on for 3-4 months, then we'll be looking at 3 models of cameras of the same price range, that comes out to the market within 6 months time frame. That, will be very challenging and even more interesting to see which is the best. If it's alright to point out also that these camera will be more or less similar to one and another, perhaps buyers will then look into other factors such as 3rd party lenses, ease of warranty claims, after sales service, camera accessories etc etc. Q1 2025, more new cameras coming in. Good explaination and sharing from Jared. Oh yes, is this episode filmed your new Canon R5 Mark 2 ?

  • @Gabe731
    @Gabe731 2 місяці тому

    Can you do a video on "compact" full frame cameras? Eg. Sony A7CII

  • @_SYDNA_
    @_SYDNA_ 2 місяці тому +5

    Canon, of course, created a pathway to continue using the older, but still great EF lenses. These are, essentially, their version of "3rd party lenses." So glad they did that. There's no way I could afford my excellent long-ish telephoto 2.8 were this not the case.

  • @davep2945
    @davep2945 2 місяці тому +6

    People love to talk and defend or promote what they spent their money on. In the end though on paper specs may seem significant but real world performance is extremely similar among these cameras. You can pretend Nikon has the best image quality of that Sony has terrible colors but if a decently skilled photographer took the same pictures with each and laid them out in front of even serious professionals few would accurately guess which camera captured what if the sample size were large enough to eliminate random guess success. Buy the glass and the features that appeal to you and don't worry about what anyone who is not buying your gear for you thinks about any of it.

  • @D.J.O3
    @D.J.O3 2 місяці тому

    I'm using r6mkii & a7iv.
    Can't really choose between them for photo.
    Sony has the customized buttons. But battery feels really small.
    For me I feel that the sony focus better in the night while using flash. Maybe the lens on canon is the problem.

  • @adude394
    @adude394 Місяць тому

    After 2 decades of DSLR, I finally added a mirrorless to my bag earlier this year, the R6 Mk II. Couldn't be happier with it, and the pairing of that body with the 100-500 RF is really excellent. (I'd love to get the 200-800, if Canon would ever actually produce enough to make them readily available, but that's a rant for another post.)

  • @cjm8160
    @cjm8160 2 місяці тому +29

    R6 Mark III, the ball is now in your court

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer 2 місяці тому +2

      They need to make it a stacked BSI sensor for sure. Full HDMI, and better video options. The fact that they have no All Intra is a head scratcher. I know I’m missing many more other things they can add or change for the price point, but those are what came to mind.

  • @JHuffPhoto
    @JHuffPhoto 2 місяці тому

    When I purchased last spring the Z6III was not yet available. I compared the a7IV and the R6II. For me either one would have gotten the job done. I did like the fact that the Sony has better 3rd party support but I ended up going with the Canon because the ergonomics felt much better to me. The camera's abilities far exceed mine so if I make bad photos it is my fault and not the camera's. I went with the 24-105 F4 L lens which is a good start for general use but I am about to start looking at some faster glass. Not sure I will go with L glass as I am a hobbyist and not making money with my gear but it would be nice to have some faster glass.

  •  2 місяці тому +1

    Jumped from Nikon D5600 to Nikon Z5 and it's like whole different world (in a good direction), so I can only imagine what Z6 III is capable for. I'm wondering why Nikon does not release a Zf specs into ergonomic body, Z5 II or similar

    • @tubularificationed
      @tubularificationed 2 місяці тому

      The Z6 III's dynamic range is ever so slightly worse than your 8 years old D5600 APS-C DSLR, according to PhotonsToPhotos' lab measurements. Let's assume it being roughly the same.
      Also the sensor resolution is the same.
      If these two image quality parameters matter for your type of photography, then the Z6 III doesn't have an advantage over an 8 years old APS-C camera.

    • @saibhargavamanda1062
      @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому

      I do feel ZF is the most relavant camera for the most of the market. ZF in a regular body style as Z5ii is enough to capture a significant market

  • @nuke2you
    @nuke2you 2 місяці тому

    What rescored this video?

  • @Gremlack13
    @Gremlack13 2 місяці тому +1

    When the r6 came out o decided to see what was on the horizon with the a7iv, as the a7iii was long in the tooth. But when it finally came I was disappointed at its speed capabilities, as I was looking for an all around camera to balance speed and quality.
    I held out and the r6ii came out which ticked the boxes, though I wish I could’ve afforded the r5, or now r5ii. But the r6ii has been amazing for me and I really like what the z6iii has to offer.

  • @sveref
    @sveref 2 місяці тому

    «quick question» What Fullformat camera would be a good way to go from my X-t5? I love the length i get with my xf70-300 but the FF Flu has gotten a hold of me, and im dreaming of a FF shooter, unfortunately there is no such thing as a camera rental buisness around here in Norway😢 so i just need to see what i can get of info from the gurus at teh interwebs

  • @TheTransformationBodySwap01
    @TheTransformationBodySwap01 2 місяці тому

    I would go with the Canon R6 Mark II. I have seen used up close and personal at a friend's graduation and it worked pretty excellent.

  • @scotthayesproductions5715
    @scotthayesproductions5715 2 місяці тому +2

    the nikon is fantastic. Used one alongside my Z8 a couple weeks ago for a gig. photo and video quality were top notch. However, it loses because Nikon hasn't allowed any of the Z cameras to record video, even capped, to dual card slots.

  • @scherge
    @scherge 2 місяці тому

    I got the R6mII a little over a year ago and it's the best camera body I've ever had. The RF lenses were the main reason for me to stick with Canon though I was absolutely open to switching to Sony or Nikon at the time. Only being interested in first party glass however, Sony's and Nikon's offerings don't get me excited. But that's only personal preference. I'm sure all modern cameras are very capable and most of the glass is as well. As long as you know what you're doing.

  • @stalbansbiker
    @stalbansbiker 2 місяці тому +3

    I had the Z7ii and will be buying a Z6iii

    • @aidenlee7897
      @aidenlee7897 2 місяці тому

      Should of waited for the Z7III 😉

  • @random_dev
    @random_dev 2 місяці тому +2

    Ok so now, I think a lot of us want to see the same video but with Z8 and R5 II !

    • @jklbd4815
      @jklbd4815 2 місяці тому

      Petapixel recently released a video comparing these two along with the Sony one

  • @dmfinpa
    @dmfinpa 2 місяці тому

    Does anyone know what the most recent 1.4 to 1.5 R6ii firmware update includes?

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 2 місяці тому +1

      Mainly just bug fixes. Per canon’s website: “Firmware Version 1.5.0 incorporates the following enhancements and fixes:
      1. Enables functions to be used without limitation in conjunction with the new Battery Pack LP-E6P.
      This makes it possible to shoot at the same continuous shooting speed as when using LP-E6NH.
      In-camera charging of LP-E6P is also supported.
      2. Adds [Protect Images] and [Rating] during FTP Transfer.
      3. Adds support for the "Peripheral Coordinated Control". Peripheral Coordinated Control is now always performed when a compatible lens is attached (there is no need to set it on the menu screen).
      * Peripheral Coordinated Control is a function that reduces changes in distortion around the periphery of the image caused by camera shake, which tends to occur with wide-angle lenses.
      4. The following issues have been fixed.
       4-1. Fixes an issue, in which when performing continuous shooting using the electronic shutter with both the [High-Frequency Anti-Flicker Shooting] and [OVF sim. view assist] options set to [On], Err 70 may occur.
       4-2. Fixes an issue, in which when Wi-Fi is disconnected, Err 70 occurs.
       4-3. Fixes an issue, in which when performing shooting in high-speed continuous shooting + mode with the [Highlight Tone Priority] option set to [ON], focus may not be achieved when certain ISO speed settings are used.”

    • @dmfinpa
      @dmfinpa 2 місяці тому

      @@stepheneckert4006 Thank you for providing this information.

  • @caferaygun5710
    @caferaygun5710 2 місяці тому

    What is whit Panasonic S5 II ?
    Hello from Germany Berlin !!! 🎉

  • @jasonbennett9777
    @jasonbennett9777 2 місяці тому +10

    I’ll stick with my R8 and my EF 35mm

  • @charlesjames9783
    @charlesjames9783 2 місяці тому

    If these cameras do 60 fps video why can’t you pull 60 stills like you could with Canon MJPEG format?

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 2 місяці тому +3

      You typically shoot video at a slower shutter speed for proper motion blur, much harder to stop any action and grab a decent freeze frame

  • @natedagreat90
    @natedagreat90 Місяць тому

    If your camera caps at 1/8000 just get a variable filter and you can't shoot at f0.5 if you please

  • @TimLucasdesign
    @TimLucasdesign 2 місяці тому +13

    I took advantage of the $1,999 deal and got an R6ii. I couldn't be happier. Great camera. Just curious how you think the Lumix S5ii would stack up against these 3. Similar specs similar money. L MOUNT ALLIANCE!

    • @sumitino
      @sumitino 2 місяці тому +1

      2k for the R62 is a fantastic deal. It took the original R6 forever to get to that price...

    • @Democratiser
      @Democratiser Місяць тому +1

      I reckon LUMIX S5IIX is the best unless you shoot fast action or wildlife etc.

    • @TimLucasdesign
      @TimLucasdesign Місяць тому

      @@Democratiser That's the way I would have gone if I didn't already own Canon lenses.

  • @JohnCederdahl
    @JohnCederdahl 2 місяці тому +3

    Waiting for R6 mark 3...

  • @Man_Cave
    @Man_Cave 22 дні тому

    Love the star of David around your neck!

  • @FORESTSPY
    @FORESTSPY 2 місяці тому

    What about fuji h2S?

  • @nickwilliams7867
    @nickwilliams7867 2 місяці тому +3

    I think there is a space in Sony's line up for a third stacked sensor camera. One to compete in price with Nikon and canon. Will that be the A7V, only time will tell. At the very least I hope the A7V is partially stacked to make electronic shutter more usable. As for AF for wedding and event work the A7IV AF was amazing and never let me down.

    • @tubularificationed
      @tubularificationed 2 місяці тому

      Not sure if the market would appreciate, if now also Sony would start sacrificing
      - resolution,
      - noise and
      - dynamic range
      for less
      - sensor read-out time.
      I'm worried (when looking what happend to the Z6 III), that today new cameras are as if designed specifically to enjoy UA-cam mega influencers (who are very often sports or birding oriented), rather than to enjoy the 99% of non-speedy-action photographers. 99% do stills or just moderately slow people / events and animals. Only 1% do baseball bats or golf clubs in full swing, just to show off nuances in bending there 😉

    • @nickwilliams7867
      @nickwilliams7867 2 місяці тому

      @@tubularificationed I shoot around 60 weddings and 50 corporate events a year. In my 24 years working full time, silent shooting is up there as the biggest game changer improvements . I get shots with my A9 and A1 I would never get with a DSLR or a A7 series cameras. Clients LOVE the silent shooting indoors when a shutter click is most noticeable. Be that durning a wedding service or whilst photographing a keynote speaker on stage at a conference. The silent shooting on the A7IV is almost unusable, so at the very least they need to improve that, not just for stills but also for video. I think your 99-1% is also way off. Birding is huge, I can't walk around my local wildlife park without seeing at least 4-5 people out enjoying their hobby. I am lucky to own a camera like an A1 and A9 but Sony's only stacked options are 6K well out of the reach of most people. Nikon and Canon Both have way cheaper options for those who want to shoot fast or silent. Not sure why you mentioned resolution, Sony is more than capable of making a stacked 33mp sensor, the A1 is 50mp. I know it's not your thing, or mine but Sony do need a cheaper option for fast moving action.

    • @pawelmod3292
      @pawelmod3292 2 місяці тому

      My guess is that a7v will be 33 stacked with almost no penalty on dr.

    • @saibhargavamanda1062
      @saibhargavamanda1062 2 місяці тому

      ​@@pawelmod3292that would awesome.. Upon that if they can calibrate for better skintone processing. I wouldnt hesssitate to switch to sony. Being in Nikon though image quality is grt , lack of 1.4 pro lenses bugs me.

  • @p.c.1346
    @p.c.1346 2 місяці тому +1

    Canon since my Ixus 400😂; now since November 2023 happy with R6MKII, thanks for your videos.

  • @pawelmod3292
    @pawelmod3292 2 місяці тому +3

    Waiting for A7 V in a few months. Hopefully Sony will give as a surprise like with a7 III …

    • @ПазарджикДевет
      @ПазарджикДевет Місяць тому

      Well to be honest, they don't need to reinvent the wheel.. slap a faster sensor, remove the 4k@60 crop, add that AI chip that no one needs, but everybody wants, and they are good to go. I shot A7IV for two years as a wedding videographer and honestly I would've kept it, if it wasn't for that nasty crop at 4k60.

  • @radimpalus
    @radimpalus 2 місяці тому

    Did I miss it or wasn't there any mention about dynamic range? This is actually where the SONY outperforms the competitors by 1 stop, which is a lot. For me this figure is one of the most important, as every time you shoot outdoors on a sunny day You have to deal with pushing the highlights down and the shadows up. And missing 1 stop can mean burnt skies or more baked shadows. I own the A7 IV and wouldn't trade it for any of the two mentioned in the comparison. I shoot events, commercials, documentarie, etc. on it and I'm very happy with the results. Both stills and video are very detailed with great dynamic range. The S-log 3 gamma is great for grading and much better than what the competition offers in the other cameras. Colorists often suffer when they get Nikon footage for grading. I agree that the Sony A7 IV is not ment for sports - You can use it, but the competition will offer You better value there. But SONY has a different camera for this purpose = a9 III, which in the megapixel count and production date would be the best fit for this comparison.

  • @DenDrees
    @DenDrees 2 місяці тому

    My r6 mk2 broke within a year. Canon replaced mainbord. Allmost same period rf 24-105 autofocus issue, making strange noise. Replace autofocus. Used this combi barely, only one holiday and two shoots. Very bad experience. Keeping the r6 with my ef lenses. But switching to Sony due to this experience.😢

  • @juvefc123
    @juvefc123 День тому

    Subscribed within 1sec for the Magen David alone

  • @lukasf5256
    @lukasf5256 2 місяці тому

    Did you maybe forget to mention something about the Sony card slot 1?
    This video does not get a check mark!

  • @breakfastforyousoul
    @breakfastforyousoul Місяць тому

    Z6iii and S5ii, most bang for your dollar and you can get really affordable lenses for both!😊😊

  • @xXxLLIaMaHxXx
    @xXxLLIaMaHxXx 2 місяці тому

    Amzing video as always. Poor Sony lost so many checkmarks😭😄
    As a Canon cultist (not radical lol), I'd say if I were upgrading from a quite old Canon camera, I'd really take Nikon Z6 into consideration. The specs are so enticing.😯
    31:21 Jared's right and wrong at the same time, you gotta learn to you viewfinder, it's more stabilizing, when you shoot, but speaking of getting you composition right it's not that important to my mind. When I started my journey as a photographer my first camera was Canon 600D aka Rebel T3i, it had a flip screen, which really helped me when shooting dancing crowds in clubs and weddings from above with my height of 5' 7".
    Altough I'm not a frequent smartphone shooter I would have used the screens on my 600D and 6D more often if they were at least half as fast as my R6. And I see no difference in composition.
    Looking more professional is, I guess, depends on people around you🤔

  • @johnbunani1341
    @johnbunani1341 2 місяці тому +7

    This is actually incredibly positive towards the z63. You give nikon praise but only when it’s warranted as it should be

    • @marcusbeasley3212
      @marcusbeasley3212 2 місяці тому +2

      Because this isn't 2020. Nikon is a very capable mirrorless platform. I began Z mount by adapting F mount glass on a Z6II, you no longer have to adapt. The system minus some very niche optics is there and worth buying into.

  • @mcmoose64
    @mcmoose64 2 місяці тому

    I am currently weighing up these 3 cameras . It will be the Sony for me because of the availability of 3rd party glass . My dilemma now is whether to go for the A4 , a mint used OG a9 , or hang out for the A5.

    • @benoittissier58
      @benoittissier58 2 місяці тому

      If you shoot sports, don’t consider the A7iv. Subject detection and tracking in the EVF are great but many pictures are out of focus. The best hit rate is at 6 FPS and fixed spot AF, that is very limiting.

    • @mcmoose64
      @mcmoose64 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@benoittissier58. Mainly wildlife and travel/landscape. If I can find the right one , I will probably go the a9. I currently shoot a 5diii and a7dii. Any of they guys will be a big improvement in terms of auto focus performance.