Its really sad (and also, sadly somewhat realistic) that everyone on hypnospace treated the chowdercopter incident like a joke. and in a cruel twist of irony chowderman ends up making one last song that probably would have been his redemption after years of trying to reclaim his fame with a genuine heartfelt song, only to never release it and retire. Something only the player gets to experience.
I love the way this game takes these exaggerated stereotypes of people and actually makes them into human beings instead of just being like “haha funny 90s stereotype”
Yeah this is imo what secured Hypnospace as one of the greatest games ever made for me - the characters. I was genuinely moved, for example, when I realised Sandy had been making "Sandycards" for people on Hypnospace just out of the goodness of her heart, and was sticking up for the Warlock after he was made fun of by The Dumpster. Or discovering the more vulnerable side to The Chowder Man behind his brash exterior. Or that Tim was lashing out in an hormonal, misanthropic teenage way because of his unrequited love for Tiff, his fixation on the morbid, and this being why he creates viruses which eventually kill her. It's rare to see a game capture the profound tragedy that can come from being young, lost and outcast, struggling to find a place in the world - a toxic mix that seems to sometimes fuel acts of violence or vengeance against society such as school shootings. There are so many deep and heavy themes such as these being explored throughout the game, and none feel heavy-handed or forced. Just to give a few examples, there's class commentary on Dylan being a rich kid with meagre coding skills that are made fun of by the grassroots hacking scene. There's a nod to a particular brand of libertarian Trumpism and culture wars with the Gooper stickers becoming an emblem of anti-authoritatian resistance, that runs deep in American society. Hypnospace has so many profound things to say about the world we live in today, and it deals with these themes in brilliant and amusing ways. The game writers set themselves a huge challenge in capturing what the internet feels like, complete as it is with so many different generations/cultures/sub-groups all using it to express their own ideologies, hopes and dreams. But the game manages to succeed in this, creating a real sense of a living internet with real people using it, all in a bounded, navigable game space, with a core narrative that has a more or less linear path, or at least specific plot points that move the gameplay forward in time towards an ending. If the game's strengths were limited to its amazing visuals, it would have been a cool but ultimately superficial game. But where it became a masterpiece for me is in its characters. There are so many stories that were at times genuinely funny and at other times genuinely moving. Characters that could so easily have been one-dimensional, and might only there to capture a nostalgic aesthetic, are in fact given so much more depth than you might at first expect. I like that, as in real life, you can sometimes only discover the deeper aspects of these characters by paying close attention, actively seeking more information about them, and caring enough to ask questions about them and digging deeper into their inner lives. The game is nothing short of extraordinary and as I say, is for me one of the greatest games ever made. I'm beyond excited for future games from these devs, because I've never experienced anything quite like this and it affected me to the degree that I was thinking about it for days and even weeks after my first playthrough. I read a lot and it's mostly only books that have this effect on me. This game felt like a novel.
They seem like exaggerated stereotypes only because we see them from the perspective of internet identities and corporative ads. Even irl people online seem like parodies of themselves.
When it gets to the part where he says "now you must beg", he genuinely sounds choked up over the whole affair. I love the way that part was delivered.
I listened to this, 20 years after it was made, realizing that most of the weird little lives I'd been following were either dead or long gone. I'd basically watched some of them die during the crash. Kids were now probably in college, adults were probably old, and if a single person in Goodtime Valley was still alive I'd be amazed. Absolutely none of what I'd been doing mattered now. It felt like I'd aged fifty years.
I know bro I can't get over it, even when you see all the pages listed out in the hap at the end and know the absolute extent and limits of the illusion it still feels real af.
Had a real shitty day and then found this after listening to Christmas Pain in Christmas town, I've not cried so much since losing a loved one. I really hope Chowder Man was comfortable in his last moments.
I just lost my grandpa a few days ago, and the day after was when I had first heard this song. It made me so sad to see how quickly Chowder Man went from this goofy, egotistical, cool party animal to a calm, moderately depressed old man. It really hurt to see how he mellowed with age and really took the Coolfest ‘99 crash as a reality check. Losing Kuff and his leg made him realize that he wasn’t just some “too cool for school” guy, and his later releases really emphasize how sorry he is to the world. Just knowing how much he went through made me so sad to hear this completely different style of song
I never got to experience this fully in game, found the lyrics not the song. It turned into a poem read again and again. I found myself wishing for an older Tamara to give it the spoken word flair I never could. Hearing it now, feels complete.
While I was playing the game I found the lyrics of this song, but never actually listened it. And now I can safely say... This song is surprisingly emotional. It probably sounds weird, but for me it's like a reminder that behind every silly and goofy artist whom I don't view too seriously, may exist a person with tragic backstory. I'm saying because at first I found it somewhat funny (or rather ironic) that he lost his leg, mostly because he was boasting about his piloting skills, but now I feel really sorry for the guy. Stay strong, Chowder man!
BWL I remember pirating this song off of FLIST, those were the good days. It's a shame Chowder Man never released it, I think it's one of his greatest songs. RIP you absolute legend
what a gut punch. i don't want to come off like gill sanders or anything, but chowder man bargaining for kuff (who i'm sure this is dedicated to) to forgive and come back to him is almost hard to listen to. the pirate line seems outlandish at first, but it's like he's emphasizing that while losing his leg hinders him he's starting to accept it, but he values his best friend kuff johnson like gold, bargaining for him to come back, unwilling to accept his loss.
Its really sad (and also, sadly somewhat realistic) that everyone on hypnospace treated the chowdercopter incident like a joke. and in a cruel twist of irony chowderman ends up making one last song that probably would have been his redemption after years of trying to reclaim his fame with a genuine heartfelt song, only to never release it and retire. Something only the player gets to experience.
the dumpster also discovered it though
it wouldn't be a listed "lost song" if nobody knew about it
The Dumpster didn't make fun of the helicopter incident, they seemed to be respectful about it, but then shat on the rest of the event.
@@Cyann33andaThird it's interesting that the dumpster was respectful about it, but like everyone else treated it as a joke.
@@polocatfan They'd poke fun, but never want to punch down on outright actual tragedy.
I like how he counts 3/4 time before playing a song in 4/4. Very prog.
it's in Walt's time!
Chowder Time
Such a good little in-character joke.
I love the way this game takes these exaggerated stereotypes of people and actually makes them into human beings instead of just being like “haha funny 90s stereotype”
Yeah this is imo what secured Hypnospace as one of the greatest games ever made for me - the characters. I was genuinely moved, for example, when I realised Sandy had been making "Sandycards" for people on Hypnospace just out of the goodness of her heart, and was sticking up for the Warlock after he was made fun of by The Dumpster. Or discovering the more vulnerable side to The Chowder Man behind his brash exterior. Or that Tim was lashing out in an hormonal, misanthropic teenage way because of his unrequited love for Tiff, his fixation on the morbid, and this being why he creates viruses which eventually kill her. It's rare to see a game capture the profound tragedy that can come from being young, lost and outcast, struggling to find a place in the world - a toxic mix that seems to sometimes fuel acts of violence or vengeance against society such as school shootings.
There are so many deep and heavy themes such as these being explored throughout the game, and none feel heavy-handed or forced. Just to give a few examples, there's class commentary on Dylan being a rich kid with meagre coding skills that are made fun of by the grassroots hacking scene. There's a nod to a particular brand of libertarian Trumpism and culture wars with the Gooper stickers becoming an emblem of anti-authoritatian resistance, that runs deep in American society.
Hypnospace has so many profound things to say about the world we live in today, and it deals with these themes in brilliant and amusing ways.
The game writers set themselves a huge challenge in capturing what the internet feels like, complete as it is with so many different generations/cultures/sub-groups all using it to express their own ideologies, hopes and dreams. But the game manages to succeed in this, creating a real sense of a living internet with real people using it, all in a bounded, navigable game space, with a core narrative that has a more or less linear path, or at least specific plot points that move the gameplay forward in time towards an ending.
If the game's strengths were limited to its amazing visuals, it would have been a cool but ultimately superficial game. But where it became a masterpiece for me is in its characters. There are so many stories that were at times genuinely funny and at other times genuinely moving. Characters that could so easily have been one-dimensional, and might only there to capture a nostalgic aesthetic, are in fact given so much more depth than you might at first expect.
I like that, as in real life, you can sometimes only discover the deeper aspects of these characters by paying close attention, actively seeking more information about them, and caring enough to ask questions about them and digging deeper into their inner lives.
The game is nothing short of extraordinary and as I say, is for me one of the greatest games ever made.
I'm beyond excited for future games from these devs, because I've never experienced anything quite like this and it affected me to the degree that I was thinking about it for days and even weeks after my first playthrough.
I read a lot and it's mostly only books that have this effect on me. This game felt like a novel.
They seem like exaggerated stereotypes only because we see them from the perspective of internet identities and corporative ads. Even irl people online seem like parodies of themselves.
@@sam64 Tim didn't create the virus that killed Tiff. Anyway, nice comment!
This is when the tragic-ness of this game got me
I have never been slapped in the face so hard by a narrative 180.
@@p4radoxical
For real
And we'll never know what happened to him and everyone else after Y2K
...Well @@meyes5671, you might get your chance to do just that.
When it gets to the part where he says "now you must beg", he genuinely sounds choked up over the whole affair. I love the way that part was delivered.
And then starts talking about pirates
Chowder Man, partied hard.
He had to sober up the most.
He can rest, thank you Chowder Man.
Listening to this for the first time was probably the biggest gut punch i got in a video game
I listened to this, 20 years after it was made, realizing that most of the weird little lives I'd been following were either dead or long gone. I'd basically watched some of them die during the crash. Kids were now probably in college, adults were probably old, and if a single person in Goodtime Valley was still alive I'd be amazed. Absolutely none of what I'd been doing mattered now.
It felt like I'd aged fifty years.
I know bro I can't get over it, even when you see all the pages listed out in the hap at the end and know the absolute extent and limits of the illusion it still feels real af.
look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair, the lone and level sands stretch far away
Chowder Man is the real main character.
Chowder Man was a side character, but maybe he was the story we all should have followed. Come back Chowder Man.
Had a real shitty day and then found this after listening to Christmas Pain in Christmas town, I've not cried so much since losing a loved one. I really hope Chowder Man was comfortable in his last moments.
I just lost my grandpa a few days ago, and the day after was when I had first heard this song. It made me so sad to see how quickly Chowder Man went from this goofy, egotistical, cool party animal to a calm, moderately depressed old man. It really hurt to see how he mellowed with age and really took the Coolfest ‘99 crash as a reality check. Losing Kuff and his leg made him realize that he wasn’t just some “too cool for school” guy, and his later releases really emphasize how sorry he is to the world. Just knowing how much he went through made me so sad to hear this completely different style of song
chowder man didn't die...
Bird Online He did at some point, just not in the game
@@JSearsFilms27 I'm really sorry to hear what you and Noble Ocelot have been going through lately, my heart goes out to both of you
@@JSearsFilms27 wait did I miss a gigantic piece of lore on my favorite character???
Only the real Chowder Fans will remember this deep cut
the chowder man retiring made me cry
there's no game that has surprised me in the way hypnospace outlaw did
Man Chowder Man... Come back. We need one last ride with the Chowder Man.
I actually really like this
I never got to experience this fully in game, found the lyrics not the song. It turned into a poem read again and again. I found myself wishing for an older Tamara to give it the spoken word flair I never could. Hearing it now, feels complete.
Where are the lyrics
@@JFenixGG on the Chowderman's flist page
@@JFenixGGChowder Mans flist account after the accident. The only things it has is the song file and the lyrics file.
While I was playing the game I found the lyrics of this song, but never actually listened it.
And now I can safely say...
This song is surprisingly emotional.
It probably sounds weird, but for me it's like a reminder that behind every silly and goofy artist whom I don't view too seriously, may exist a person with tragic backstory.
I'm saying because at first I found it somewhat funny (or rather ironic) that he lost his leg, mostly because he was boasting about his piloting skills, but now I feel really sorry for the guy.
Stay strong, Chowder man!
What a gem, the music in this game makes it easily my favorite game of the year
this hit suprisingly hard
man this game is so fucking underated
Hot Dad music never fails to make me feel GOOD.
BWL I remember pirating this song off of FLIST, those were the good days. It's a shame Chowder Man never released it, I think it's one of his greatest songs.
RIP you absolute legend
man... i felt so fucking bad for chowder man at the end of the game
When a man looses everything, what do they become?
I fucking love you Chowder Man, I'm deeply sorry for what happened. I'm really really sorry....
downloading one eleggedman
Chowder man becomes Jeff Mangum
I could have sworn this song was called One-Legged Friend
This is kinda sad
Not gonna lie, I teared up a little on my first listen
Hypnospace Archival Project Same. Chowder Man is such a goofy character, but after the Coolfest ‘99 incident, you can’t help but feel bad for the guy
@@JSearsFilms27 this is why i love hypnospace, its a goofy and funny game but it can get very serious and sad and i like things that can do that
F in the chat for the Chowder Man.
epic
boring, too sad. *turns on fungus scene music*
CAN YOU HEAAAR THAT PLOPPLOPPLOP~
Coolpunk is way better, even if Fre3zer didn't actually sing on Coolfest '99.
Thank you for this comment 😂
~ It's fungus scene now do a mushroom hop ~
*snore* mimimimi *snore* mimimimi *snore* mimimimi
what a gut punch. i don't want to come off like gill sanders or anything, but chowder man bargaining for kuff (who i'm sure this is dedicated to) to forgive and come back to him is almost hard to listen to. the pirate line seems outlandish at first, but it's like he's emphasizing that while losing his leg hinders him he's starting to accept it, but he values his best friend kuff johnson like gold, bargaining for him to come back, unwilling to accept his loss.
fuck, man...