people are spoiled.. 100/mo for a 12 yo is nuts, plus birthday+christmas. What is a 12yo going to do with that money lmao spend it on random junk? Besides a custom PC
@dman8988 I think $100 is the upper end of where I'm at. $60-100 is perfect. At LEAST give em enough to not have to save more than a month of allowance to buy a new video game for Christ's sake lol.
Y'all he ain't lying, having an allowance at 12 might've let me have a social life as messed up as that sounds. The first time I actually had money of my own that I could spend and not save was when I started working in high school and that plus a little confidence was a game changer.
Yeah I grew up with older brothers who had a good allowance in their teens. When I got old enough the family went through hard times and I didn't get an allowance till I was 15. RIP my social life, I didn't even want to pretend.
I’ve now watched the allowance bit twice and it’s so real to me. I played two sports in high school and in the off-season I worked about 16 hours a week. I worked a lil bit in school, got good grades, and had a social life because my parents were generally lenient with helping me out with money to hangout with my friends.
How is it possible that I chose to click on this video but I still felt like I was being held against my will as he went on a 20 min rant and didn’t play the game 😂 😂 😂
People stayed in their rooms because the steam from the engine room was so loud it was deafening. Also, they didn't even know the Titanic actually hit something. There was a record of a passenger who said you could hold a glass full of water and it wouldn't have spilled. So, to say they "saw it coming" isn't exactly true.
26:40 I'm sorta an expert in this field, and actually both shit and piss can be modeled as digital signals, let me explain. Intuitively when you shit or piss, you're not modulating sphincter diameter, you're either fully open or fully closed (unless you're a weirdo). Thus the anal and urethral sphincters can be modeled as sample and hold circuits. At each time step, the output of each sphincter is sampled (i.e. how much shit/piss is coming out), then held open or closed for the duration of that time step (e.g. zero order hold). Assume the small and large intestines are modeled as continuous time transfer functions G(s) and H(s), the sampling operation modulates each by an impulse train, producing G*(s) and H*(s). The hold operation defines the inter-sample behavior by effectively applying a low pass filter to G*(s) and H*(s), producing the final discrete time transfer functions G(z) and H(z). For more info I'll refer you to the preprint of my new paper, "modelling shit and piss dynamics in discrete time".
It's a hard topic money and kids... I give my daughters (9 and 7) money per chore done. Work more, save more. BUT! I think that 30/40 a month is PLENTY. Because it makes them think ahead. Save for a few months, after a few months, go get the 60 or 80$ lego set. Or that "dress" you wanted. That way, they learn to work, learn value of money, learn to save, and still have plenty to get cool things once in a while. Or a really big thing once or twice a year. They choose. My 7yo will take 10$ a week and buy 10$ worth of candy... My 9 years old.was offering to give me some money, so we could get some take out hahaha But like I said.... thouchy subject
The shift from defending 100 a month to defending 40 a month is peak NL. I got £3 a week as a kid but if we were going to the movies or something we’d be given 20 to pay for ticket, travel and popcorn. Different ways of getting to the same end
I grew up in the 90s and early 00s, and my allowance as a kid was £2 per fortnight. Which equals about 1 discounted PS2 game every 5 months. It was miserable. Give your damn kids an allowance, lol
Based af. My local Marcus does 5$ tickets for students on tuesdays, 20/month is essentially literally one ticket and two bags of candy for a month. If anyone had to survive an entire month off the recreation of a single movie and some candy, they’d give up everything real fast
never had an allowance myself. I rarely asked for things, so every half a year or so when a game I really wanted came out, I'd just ask for it and get it. They later did try to incentivize me to get better grades with money or games, but I was a kid who always preferred not having to do the thing I didn't want to do over a physical reward. Not studying was easily worth that price to me. Even though I had no other source of money, since having a job in high school was equally not worth it to me
My dad gave me 7$ a week. Growing up in the 10s. I had to save for over 2 months to get a game. I would try to tell him at least raise it to 7.50, and he wouldn't budge (so it was 15 when he got paid every 2 weeks) It sucked and would have been worse if I'd go out with friends instead of staying inside and gaming. Also, as a 10 year old, just keep it in a savings account or smth
When I was a kid it scaled every year to the current grade we were in. Now a days I think a fair price is like 2xGrade per week. (Your in grade 5 = $10/week, grade 10 = $20/week)
20 dollars per month allowance is quite literally 0 money. If your kid wants a video game or something if a similar price they will have to save for at least 90 days, then spend all of their money on it.
Bro 10 dollars a week now is barely anything, imagine what it will be like when she actually gets to that age. The people saying that's too much for a kid are so out of touch it is honestly hilarious
@@neilbrons529 what does that have to do with what I said? Obviously if you can't afford to give out an allowance don't. However that doesn't change how much an allowance is worth. 1 dollar a week doesn't magically become enough for them to do stuff with because that's all you can afford.
@@jeremyhillson9210 no I didn't call any economic class out of touch. I said it is out of touch to think that amount of money for allowance is going to be at all impactful for a teenager. Yall are the ones making it about the status of the family
Ok heres my two cents on allowances, no allowances if my kid needs lunch money done, if my kid wants to go to the movies and dinners done, if my daughter wants to get her hair cut, done. Now if I felt as a parent that my child is trying to take advantage of me then I know that I have not done the best job raising my child. From that point I would try repair the relationship to where my child felt comfortable asking me for whatever they needed and me providing them with whatever I can and if I can't afford what they want just be real and tell them you can't. Giving them a certain amount of money every week doesn't actually teach them that much and it limits them on what they would want to do considering they probably wouldn't feel comfortable asking you for money. Sorry for the long post heres a potato for the road. 🥔
I think it is only fair to scale allowance as you age. These days something like 2xSchool Grade per week seems like a minimum(Grade 5 = $10/week, grade 10 = $20/week).
If I got $100 a month as a kid, our family could not afford to live in the home we did. So I do kinda understand why chat is saying $100 a month is ridiculous.
the fact that nl enjoys queer eye as much as he does speaks volumes about how the show is made with a cishet audience in mind rather than being by & for queers
I still remember when I scammed my each of my parents into giving me allowance so I got double for months, then spent it all on consumables so I effectively got away with it. Good times.
As someone who grew up with 2 siblings in lower-middle class and had no allowance, its not the $50 a month that gets me, It's the fact that he would send his 12yo daughter out the door to take public transportation to a movie theater and be gone 4hr minimum that bothers me. public safety's declining drastically already, by the time she's 12yo she'll need a flak jack on the back to school shopping list.
I never knew anyone who had an allowance growing up. You did odd jobs like shoveling and dog walking for neighbors and extended family if you wanted money
Yeah my parents only gave me money enough to buy 5 lunches per week in school, that was around 10€. Didn't even have money for a damn coca cola or lemonade during the hot months like my friends did, back when a can cost 0.50€ Being poor sucks
....I had to save 3 months for a video game on my allowance back in the 90s and early 2000s. NL's kid could save that long and and buy an entire handheld. I scoured used game stores, and hope for a new game I'd want as a birthday or christmas present. I'd not dream of going to cinema and dinner afterwards TWICE a month, not even once, in my teens. That's not something my family could've made work. Even now, the amount he proposed for a 10 year old(!) is not far below what I'd budget for food & drink for an entire month, pre-pandemic. It's enough to buy an entire premium-level board game per month, or a new Warhammer 40,000 army every half-year. As a 10 year old. If it was for a late teen, I'd understand giving them more leeway to choose their own priorities, but even then it's still going to privilege them beyond most of their peers in public school, I'd wager.
As a poor kid that had no allowance or gifts during holidays living in the edges of a middle class school district, id imagine 100 a month is in line with most her peers in such a district. I remember most kids had a gaming PC that ran Wow comfortably, a Wow subscription, with a recreation budget so he's probably in the moderate range. Wealth inequality sucks, but he's not really out of touch with his area.
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That bison miss made my soul leave my body
My heart 😭
@@Ren_out_of_Ten I LOVED HER
I did the exact same double take as NL when he went back to buy it after the sea lion and it was gone.
Completely forget he couldn't do that
bro got so heated about the allowance he forgot to play the game😂
Remind me in ten years to check how much allowance NL is giving out.
people are spoiled.. 100/mo for a 12 yo is nuts, plus birthday+christmas. What is a 12yo going to do with that money lmao spend it on random junk? Besides a custom PC
@@dman8988 not everyone has the same income. if you can provide that for your child i dont see the issue
I personally never wanted an allowance as a kid, but in hindsight I don't remember why.
Inb4 your ban in chat
Also inb4 he says "in this economy"
@dman8988 I think $100 is the upper end of where I'm at. $60-100 is perfect. At LEAST give em enough to not have to save more than a month of allowance to buy a new video game for Christ's sake lol.
"100 units of standard and poors, hold the poors" bit was genius
I don't know what this means.
Pets: Super Automatic
Komodo: Cranking
Gourd: Pegged
INSANE FULL BEATLE SHOP INTO ANOTHER FULL BEATLE SHOP. STAY PEGGED EVERYONE
I know NL loses viewers and his chat hates him talking finances, but they're genuinely some of his best bits IMO
The problem is that it's kind of an inside joke. If you don't know what he's talking about then they probably fall flat
Y'all he ain't lying, having an allowance at 12 might've let me have a social life as messed up as that sounds. The first time I actually had money of my own that I could spend and not save was when I started working in high school and that plus a little confidence was a game changer.
Can confirm, nothing ruins your street cred as a 12 yo like saying "let me ask my mom before doing X thing"
Yeah I grew up with older brothers who had a good allowance in their teens. When I got old enough the family went through hard times and I didn't get an allowance till I was 15. RIP my social life, I didn't even want to pretend.
@@meursaulty6672 the other 12 year olds know they also depend on and love their mothers. Many wouldn't judge
@@eel9Nah, 12 year olds are judgmental as all hell, dude
@@DotRD12 yes I was 12 years old once, can confirm
I’ve now watched the allowance bit twice and it’s so real to me. I played two sports in high school and in the off-season I worked about 16 hours a week. I worked a lil bit in school, got good grades, and had a social life because my parents were generally lenient with helping me out with money to hangout with my friends.
How is it possible that I chose to click on this video but I still felt like I was being held against my will as he went on a 20 min rant and didn’t play the game 😂 😂 😂
I like how we got rid of the bridge background bc of the water and ended up with the ocean 😂
That ending remark about Fran Drescher was like getting sucker punched after stepping out of a public bathroom
When nl realises that a wombat works for dolphins he’s gonna go sicko mode
People stayed in their rooms because the steam from the engine room was so loud it was deafening. Also, they didn't even know the Titanic actually hit something. There was a record of a passenger who said you could hold a glass full of water and it wouldn't have spilled. So, to say they "saw it coming" isn't exactly true.
what an amazing banter line this ep.
I have no idea how this game works but I watch every video
Play it
Someone get this man a limiter for his mic lol hes got me mashing the volume key like a madman
The more I think about the allowance convo the more I realize how bananas it was
MALF right now: Why the fuck are we friends?!
I would subscribe myself to the Wim Hof method and withstand the cold waters of the Titanic disaster
Just swim to shore
go into my mind palace where it's warm
26:40 I'm sorta an expert in this field, and actually both shit and piss can be modeled as digital signals, let me explain. Intuitively when you shit or piss, you're not modulating sphincter diameter, you're either fully open or fully closed (unless you're a weirdo). Thus the anal and urethral sphincters can be modeled as sample and hold circuits. At each time step, the output of each sphincter is sampled (i.e. how much shit/piss is coming out), then held open or closed for the duration of that time step (e.g. zero order hold). Assume the small and large intestines are modeled as continuous time transfer functions G(s) and H(s), the sampling operation modulates each by an impulse train, producing G*(s) and H*(s). The hold operation defines the inter-sample behavior by effectively applying a low pass filter to G*(s) and H*(s), producing the final discrete time transfer functions G(z) and H(z).
For more info I'll refer you to the preprint of my new paper, "modelling shit and piss dynamics in discrete time".
Chat has to be insane for thinking $100 a month is too much. Like $20 a month is like a drink and a bag of chips per week.
$25 a WEEK?!
_EDIT:_ Oh wait... it's _Canadian_ Dollars. Those are worthless. Yeah, that makes sense now.
The new meta is to trigger NL and reap the Ws
It's a hard topic money and kids...
I give my daughters (9 and 7) money per chore done. Work more, save more.
BUT! I think that 30/40 a month is PLENTY. Because it makes them think ahead. Save for a few months, after a few months, go get the 60 or 80$ lego set. Or that "dress" you wanted.
That way, they learn to work, learn value of money, learn to save, and still have plenty to get cool things once in a while. Or a really big thing once or twice a year. They choose.
My 7yo will take 10$ a week and buy 10$ worth of candy...
My 9 years old.was offering to give me some money, so we could get some take out hahaha
But like I said.... thouchy subject
that bison whiff made me literally poop my pants
The shift from defending 100 a month to defending 40 a month is peak NL.
I got £3 a week as a kid but if we were going to the movies or something we’d be given 20 to pay for ticket, travel and popcorn. Different ways of getting to the same end
This guy’s gotta cool it with the shrimp
"Forcing my kid to get a part time job in high school tanking their gpa and making them get 5 hours of sleep"
There it is, the out of touch.
Don't ever let the komodo go
Fast food prices and service time are now the same pricing and wait time as standard restaurants with none of the effort or food quality.
Did someone really say 5'10 is an advantage for center in volleyball
NL reflects on being a "great friend"
The kendrick lamar reference woke me up from my sleep
Should be getting your kids whole life Inssurance, then you can be your own bank 😂
With how much NL talks about how old he is, you'd think he'd be like 80, not 34.
That second run was some of the worst play i've ever seen
I used to get 20 a week as allowance as long as I didn’t act an ass at school that week
I grew up in the 90s and early 00s, and my allowance as a kid was £2 per fortnight.
Which equals about 1 discounted PS2 game every 5 months.
It was miserable. Give your damn kids an allowance, lol
Based af. My local Marcus does 5$ tickets for students on tuesdays, 20/month is essentially literally one ticket and two bags of candy for a month. If anyone had to survive an entire month off the recreation of a single movie and some candy, they’d give up everything real fast
I would’ve loved to see the peepoTalk this video.
New video title: twitch chat discovers that children are expensive.
Put that in your level 3 and smoke it.
never had an allowance myself. I rarely asked for things, so every half a year or so when a game I really wanted came out, I'd just ask for it and get it. They later did try to incentivize me to get better grades with money or games, but I was a kid who always preferred not having to do the thing I didn't want to do over a physical reward. Not studying was easily worth that price to me. Even though I had no other source of money, since having a job in high school was equally not worth it to me
Northern lion post and i click its that simple
My dad gave me 7$ a week. Growing up in the 10s. I had to save for over 2 months to get a game. I would try to tell him at least raise it to 7.50, and he wouldn't budge (so it was 15 when he got paid every 2 weeks) It sucked and would have been worse if I'd go out with friends instead of staying inside and gaming. Also, as a 10 year old, just keep it in a savings account or smth
When I was a kid it scaled every year to the current grade we were in. Now a days I think a fair price is like 2xGrade per week. (Your in grade 5 = $10/week, grade 10 = $20/week)
5 10 skating and swimming
20 dollars per month allowance is quite literally 0 money. If your kid wants a video game or something if a similar price they will have to save for at least 90 days, then spend all of their money on it.
Eventually he'll remember the new alpaca is trash
Has anyone told NL that Komodo is good?
Bro 10 dollars a week now is barely anything, imagine what it will be like when she actually gets to that age. The people saying that's too much for a kid are so out of touch it is honestly hilarious
not everyone is rich
@@neilbrons529 what does that have to do with what I said? Obviously if you can't afford to give out an allowance don't. However that doesn't change how much an allowance is worth. 1 dollar a week doesn't magically become enough for them to do stuff with because that's all you can afford.
@@ghostytoasty5510it has to do with you calling broke people out of touch
@@jeremyhillson9210 no I didn't call any economic class out of touch. I said it is out of touch to think that amount of money for allowance is going to be at all impactful for a teenager. Yall are the ones making it about the status of the family
He pretty much is, so why should anyone in chat be telling him what he can can can't give to his own child again?
Northerlion, it is CLEAR that you need to endow an allowance fund. That way the cost of a dollar today is the cost of the future dollar. Duh.
Holy brsh, the stunlock is strong in this one
Ok heres my two cents on allowances, no allowances if my kid needs lunch money done, if my kid wants to go to the movies and dinners done, if my daughter wants to get her hair cut, done. Now if I felt as a parent that my child is trying to take advantage of me then I know that I have not done the best job raising my child. From that point I would try repair the relationship to where my child felt comfortable asking me for whatever they needed and me providing them with whatever I can and if I can't afford what they want just be real and tell them you can't. Giving them a certain amount of money every week doesn't actually teach them that much and it limits them on what they would want to do considering they probably wouldn't feel comfortable asking you for money. Sorry for the long post heres a potato for the road. 🥔
@14:00 Just give her Money mesnwhile telling you what she gonna do. Just invest some time so you gonna print Money.
I think it is only fair to scale allowance as you age. These days something like 2xSchool Grade per week seems like a minimum(Grade 5 = $10/week, grade 10 = $20/week).
Honestly thank god for NL being based on allowances. smh 40$ is like 4 subways in my town. Bruh
If I got $100 a month as a kid, our family could not afford to live in the home we did. So I do kinda understand why chat is saying $100 a month is ridiculous.
CAD, not USD keep in mind
in what year?
@@Romanticoutlaw 2008
yeah
"Warthog needs stats" then just buy the bacon?
bacon ain’t good for later rounds
@@flyiscool Doesn't warthog have an ability that's based on its attack?
@@Smol_PCyeah but 2 attack for 3 gold is not worth it at all. if it was a pet like a monkey or food like pear then sure.
@flyiscool Sometimes he didn't have those options
@@Smol_PC better to just roll to find them not get bacon lol. for example skoottie always high rolls for the stuff he wants
the fact that nl enjoys queer eye as much as he does speaks volumes about how the show is made with a cishet audience in mind rather than being by & for queers
You are too fucking online
$1 in 1990 is worth $2.33 today
I still remember when I scammed my each of my parents into giving me allowance so I got double for months, then spent it all on consumables so I effectively got away with it. Good times.
I’m 25 years old for reference when I was 11-14 I got $2 a week in allowance my mom told me if I saved my money all year I would have $100
As someone who grew up with 2 siblings in lower-middle class and had no allowance, its not the $50 a month that gets me, It's the fact that he would send his 12yo daughter out the door to take public transportation to a movie theater and be gone 4hr minimum that bothers me. public safety's declining drastically already, by the time she's 12yo she'll need a flak jack on the back to school shopping list.
In reality what videogames are coming out that you need to buy one every month? Personally i buy a typical $60 game once, maybe twice a year.
I have an 11 year old son. He gets $20 per week, but has to help me in the yard to get it.
Wow, if you watch him at 2X speed, he sounds like Ben Shapiro.
$125 allowance a month? Damn I wish nl was my dad when I was growing up. I got 0 a month.
NL doesn’t know what a 10 year old is like
How much allowance they get should be determined by how many chores they do.
$125 a month can you be my dad?
Big +2 for the being smarter at 15 comment
No I'm not out of touch. Im actually very out of touch!
"thoughts on giving your kids an allowance"
You mean there's parents that doesn't??? Wtf???
classic growing up in poverty moment
Yeah, it's common? Up to a certain point
I never knew anyone who had an allowance growing up. You did odd jobs like shoveling and dog walking for neighbors and extended family if you wanted money
@@Romanticoutlaw same, the idea of an allowance is kind of weird to me still lol.
Yeah my parents only gave me money enough to buy 5 lunches per week in school, that was around 10€. Didn't even have money for a damn coca cola or lemonade during the hot months like my friends did, back when a can cost 0.50€
Being poor sucks
....I had to save 3 months for a video game on my allowance back in the 90s and early 2000s. NL's kid could save that long and and buy an entire handheld. I scoured used game stores, and hope for a new game I'd want as a birthday or christmas present.
I'd not dream of going to cinema and dinner afterwards TWICE a month, not even once, in my teens. That's not something my family could've made work.
Even now, the amount he proposed for a 10 year old(!) is not far below what I'd budget for food & drink for an entire month, pre-pandemic.
It's enough to buy an entire premium-level board game per month, or a new Warhammer 40,000 army every half-year. As a 10 year old.
If it was for a late teen, I'd understand giving them more leeway to choose their own priorities, but even then it's still going to privilege them beyond most of their peers in public school, I'd wager.
As a poor kid that had no allowance or gifts during holidays living in the edges of a middle class school district, id imagine 100 a month is in line with most her peers in such a district.
I remember most kids had a gaming PC that ran Wow comfortably, a Wow subscription, with a recreation budget so he's probably in the moderate range.
Wealth inequality sucks, but he's not really out of touch with his area.
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