How Elon Musk Beat the Mainstream Media | Konstantin Kisin
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2023
- In this clip, John and Konstantin Kisin discuss Elon Musk's recent interview with the BBC. Kisin expresses his disappointment with the interviewer, noting that not only did he ask questions in bad faith, but the interviewer also ran out of questions. Kisin contrasts this with his experience during Bill Maher's interview with Elon Musk, where Maher approached the conversation with genuine curiosity and excitement. Overall, Kisin sees this as an indictment of the state of modern journalism, suggesting that today's journalists are often more focused on virtue signaling to their peers rather than genuinely uncovering important and interesting information.
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Konstantin Kisin is a writer, social commentator, co-host of TRIGGERnometry and comedian. He is a regular on British and American TV and radio shows including Question Time, Good Morning Britain, BBC Breakfast, Daily Politics, LBC Cross Question, Tucker Carlson, the Megyn Kelly Show and many others.
Konstantin has written for publications including the Daily Telegraph, the Spectator, Tablet Magazine, Quillette, Standpoint as well as his first book, An Immigrant’s Love Letter to the West.
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They aren't journalists they are political activists.
and puppets for media owners (and editors)
Quite right, activists. Journalism schools now teach that only activism is ethical, otherwise you're supporting patriarchy, elitism, capitalism, W suprmcy, etc. ("Silence is violence."🤮)
I’m only just beginning to realise this.. I am going to cancel my bbc subscription right now
I don't even really care if they're liberals. I'm happy to hear a left wing perspective. But it's just DRIPPING in propaganda and ideology. Like they can't control themselves. The right isn't any better, but at least they're open to having an argument about it. At least they're willing to have the debate.
Collaborators, as we call them in Ireland
So true. He had a once-in-a-career opportunity to interview one of the most influential men in recent history and he chose to spend that time virtue-signalling to other journalists.
BBC Will regrets that fore ever
I'm not an American. Saw the interview with EM. Was wondering the same thing, about the questions. The BBC is just plain S.... period.
Easy! When your only object is “to get you” it’s easy to run out of questions. Same as always on the BBC.
The reason he ran out of questions is because he had an agenda and not a genuine good faith interview and when Elon pushed back his agenda failed and he wasn’t prepared because his agenda wasn’t backed by facts and that is a dangerous path that these journalists are taking!
In the late 1990's South Africa, before I was 20 years old, I first saw how the mainstream would not just blatantly misrepresent positions they didn't like, but even straight out lie. But I must admit, the overt bias in American media is next level. I'm so glad that I live in a time where the hypocrisy of journalists are exposed.
What is the difference between a politician and a journalist? A politician is honest about having an agenda.
They're globalist owned propagandists , don't you think ?
When someone says mainstream they've outed themselves as right wing.
@@dannysullivan3951 traditional or established broadcasting or publishing outlets. Now let's all be super careful not to use the shorter form of the word.
Totally agree
@@dannysullivan3951 when someone trusts mainstream , they've outed themselves as a pitiful dolt .
Seriously !
“How do you run out of questions?” Sooooo true! This made me laugh at how ridiculous the BBC interviewer was
It is ridiculous and just shows how pathetic these “Journalists” are these days
Read my comment above lol
He didn’t run of questions, he ran out of pre-approved loaded hit-piece questions
“How do run out of questions?”
¿By running very fast…..?
They aren't journalist... They are reporters. They read the script.
They are not reporters.
They are propagandists.
not journalists, socialist propagandists
All journalists are propagandists. What's more, they always have been.
... and there's a writers strike happening
Not even reporters
„Lack of curiosity” is a very good way to describe most of young people of today! In my opinion it starts in school: Before kids start here, the are curious, happy, funny etc. After two weeks of school, a great amount of them feel they don’t want to go there any more, but they have to keep on going because either laws, parents or society oblige them. At the utter most at the age of 12-13 the kids are done.
At a young age you're taught by woked all you need to know and then you're told to "go do the work" to bring down civilization. Mao would've had such a Pride.
I don’t think people have lost their curiosity, they’ve just been made afraid to express it.
I agree. The forced adherence to certain ideas is very much akin to the orthodoxy of a religion or political ideology. It's breeding a very paranoid society, when one never knows what is acceptable speech from one day to the next.
@@JckSwan In the end, the brain shuts down completely and no longer fabricates questions. The worse, the greater the risk of losing something if you accidentally think out loud.
@@JckSwan Divide and conquer is as old as time.
When polled, seven in ten American men say that they feel if they expressed their opinions openly it would hurt their reputations. 70% of us are self censoring.
We've been crowded out by people with multiple accounts and bots to stifle discourse. Bullied
As someone commented, they are not journalists, they are reporters. And if the story is interesting, there's no reason to investigate whether it's true or not. Especially if it matches the political view of their paper/tv/radiocompany.
Remember folks, we only know what we're told. So dig in! Dig deeper!
Thank you mr Anderson!
I don't think they could even be described as reporters, they are really just activists that just happen to have done journalism degrees. They seem to have been specifically hired because their ideology aligns with the owners of the company and nothing more.
In Australia we call them stenographers
@@schrodingerscat1863"Journalism degrees" aren't journalism degrees anymore, either. They now teach things that real journalists, from previous generations, would say are complete anathema to journalism, e.g. that there's no objective truth, that there's no duty to present opposing viewpoints, etc.
@@TuhljinTampergauge Indeed they are not, journalism degrees are just indoctrination courses for activists now. The results of these 'degrees' are just soft headed idiots with no idea how to even gather public domain information let alone do anything investigative, serious or balanced.
actually more propagandists and censors than anything
Love Konstantin Kisin. We desperately need more like him to stem the tide of ignorant wokeism.
Lex Fridman, talks to Elon for a total over 6 hours of interesting, engaging conversation.
The venerated BBC, after 20 minutes, runs out of topics like a 16 year old on his first date.
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No such thing as hate speech. Just swords other people don’t like
Guessing you're white, and not Jewish.
@Baddonkey
The government in Ireland are passing a law in association with hate speech, I am quiet sure that will soften all their coughs 😊
Forbidden speech
Speech they hate. Speech from someone they hate.
they should go to therapy
Great interview clip. Also wonderful to hear people talk about "truth". That word has fallen out of use on, of all things, "news" casts / channels. For those who are ignorant or lazy, or worse, truth is a pesky thing. At one time, accusing some of not telling the truth was akin to throwing down the gauntlet. Almost no one in legacy media reacts when called out for lying. I do not want to be around those people; not because I am afraid that they would defend themselves if called out for lying, but because they wouldn't.
"These pesky Christians are the only ones asking any questions."
I take that as a compliment
Yeah, remember when catholicism dominated europe before the sixties, you weren’t supposed to ask difficult questions either.
"How do you run out of questions"
Well to ask a question that question must first be resident in the reporter's head, the reporters head in this case was clearly empty.
Curiosity was replaced by hate
You are so right about journalists, they don’t bother investigating just grab a side and push that point of view until everyone changes sides then you take that side
Konstantin is RIGHT OH here! Great conversation.
The BBC was the go-to medium for truth and unbias (sorry, senior moment, can't think of the proper word) in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Then they told it like it was.
Now, it just wants to be seen as a bastion of diversity and inclusion. All the reporters think they're latter day Jeremy Paxmans bashing the interviewee with repeated loaded questions. It's become boring
It is not only boring, it gets nauseating when you know what their agenda is.
Balance perhaps? Neutrality?
@@jamesrodgers3132 yup ok, I'll go for neutrality. Looked it up in the Thesaurus.
This guy is good he makes a really good point,it seems politics has literally rotted it's way into Truth. And Reality journalism, the free press was actually formed to call out the bs in the world, we are so f"d
Capitalizing the word truth is a sure sign someone’s selling you a bridge.
@@dannysullivan3951 truth is a public service,everything is capitalised, its called an economy
I often hope that the interviewees would take the list of prepared questions from these reporters, rip them up and say, o.k, let's have a conversation.
Like Joe Rogan and Russell Brand.
Hmmm, I wonder why their viewing figures exclipse the MSM giants!!
Hence the popularity of Joe Rogan's podcast. He has conversations, not interviews.
We have definitely lost curiosity. Curiosity is the corner stone of personal development. Curiosity is the corner stone for novel ideas. Curiosity is the corner stone for sanity!
Thank you for both of you❤
I remember in the TV show West Wing a politician decided to try to outlast a group of journalists on purpose to show he wasn't wrong on a particular issue. He set up a press conference at a location tied to the issue specifically to ensure that was the basis of most questions and never stopped taking them. They were out there for a couple hours I think and he was able to get his symbolic victory when the journalists ran out of questions to ask him, his political opponents even acknowledged it as a victory (privately).
Not quite "all we can do". We can also, and more importantly' tell the Truth.
Truth now is a right wing concept and a conspiracy to Liberals.
That’s a great observation-journalists are only worried of what their peers would think!
Well - Cathy Newman took a shot, and failed miserably!
Exactly what I thought about the Musk interview - "how can you run out of questions?" - I guess the mental space that you can examine with someone in an interview is the intersection of your two minds. If you are extremely small-minded then it doesn't matter how big-minded Elon is - the interview will run out of space to explore...
The lack of curiosity among the young is a terrible problem. I’ve noticed it in my children too. And commented on it. When I was young, there was a series of books called ‘Tell me why’. Now you can read about a pop star or a sportspersons intimate life but there’s no innate curiosity to even learn what causes earthquakes.
Yey first 🎉 love you guys
If only you could get interviews like this on mainstream media ......unfortunately those days seem to be a distant memory.
Many years ago I used to be a supporter of the BBC but its news prorammes are pretty unwatchable now as they are so biased.
Bless🙏🏻
Yeah I never thought it that way. 👍
Excellent men.
2:07 love it
They run out of questions when there's no "gotcha!".
Which interview are they talking about?
@2:45....I mean it was RIGHT there. John could have responded with "well, I'm out of questions...thanks for coming on the show" COME ON. It was RIGHT THERE!! :)
In the last 10 years or more, media venues like NPR do not allow letters anymore from viewers, except for the occasional FB posts. They don't want to be challenged for their dodgy articles, claiming to remove the feedback forum because it's too hard to monitor trolls. Just another effort to shut people up with opposing views and who possess facts that NPR choose to not mention.
NPR is nauseating in their arrogant condescension
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Research is engineered to back their narrative. Since the 1990's research can only be repeated 1 in 9, when this once was 3 in 9.
Todays journalists are activists. Nothing more, nothing less
I would posit the oversaturation of information and stimulus via electronic medium stunt curiosity quite a bit.
Curiosity is affected because its so difficult to know what is truth.
When the only questions you have are leading gotcha questions it limits what you can ask. You can only make up so many “When did you stop beating your wife” questons before you run out. Only so many questions out there are amenable to painting someone as evil.
Musk also trolled the Gimp by asking him if he... likes BBC...leaving out the definite article. Brilliant.
I felt secondhand embarrassment when that reporter started stammering. Even my shlubby non-journalist self would have tons of things to ask private spacefaring man.
Even if the interviewer had specific instances, that would only demonstrate that *PEOPLE* have a hate problem, not Twitter.
two great men debating
Just because your feelings were hurt don't mean you're right!!!!
Or that you've been wronged!
Just because you don't agree with a statement doesn't mean it's hate speech
I like Konstantin but the "ran out of questions" insight was first uttered by Douglas Murray.
Tucker carlson first output 80 million views, its all over for them. people will find truthful output from the independent's keep up the great work
Well one has to admit it's working...on some. We went to the moon when I was 10 years old and by the time I was in high school in the '70's we truly believed we'd be traveling at least throughout our solar system by now. My disappointment in humanity is immeasurable.
@not today yeah I'm not holding my breath
We no longer have journalists, or very few at least. They are now reporters or commentators. The just report what the current agenda is in their companies or state the what they think people want to hear.
I do think a lot of people aren’t curious and don’t ask questions. They just sort of wait to be told what to think by an “authority” figure.
You can measure whether people are curious and if they have ideas, it manifests itself as economic growth.
There is hateful speech on Twitter, but this is not, or at least *should not be* a problem. Grow up, rise above, and ignore it.
They don’t have the questions because that don’t want to hear the answers.
Very true, even if you hate the guy, he is undeniably a very influential and powerful individual at the center of many opposing ideas and debates. 'Running out of questions' essentially means that this so-called journalist had zero intention of exploring ideas or engaging in meaningful questioning, but instead he had the sole objective of pushing some agenda/narrative.
1:40 how indeed, how does only one person have the capitol to create something that all other car companies said no to? Interesting isn't it? How does he make it seem he is doing it all for good but in the end it is a form of control, because he has to align to all sides that ask of him.
When they make a claim, ask them for proof.
Awwww wait is that Constantine?😊
Personally I'm proud to be one of those indefatigablely curious 'pesky Christians' watching this show. More power to ya'.
Elon?❤😊❤
when you go in with a list of questions you didnt write, to talk about subjects that have a narrow scope, with a man that has so much on his plate and under his belt that he could do anything next, no wonder you run out of questions.
Running out of questions is am indication of cowardice. The more you ask, the more your position can be exposed as wrong
One tip I’d give Elon - and it’s not going to transpire, is a moratorium on poisoning the well and using scandalous censor words such as fascist, racist and bigot. If you are compelled to use these phrases in lieu of dialogue, you are not fit to contribute to the public square.
Nice🙏👌Reason and simplicity
In the defence of BBC journalist, that interview was solely about Twitter. So heran out questions because he had nothing more to ask about Twitter. I agree with kisin on the lack of preparation from journalist's side though.
The beatles met elvis in his home. They just sat there and looked at him for 3 or 4 minutes. Then elvis said something to this effect. Do you want to talk or just look. That broke the ice and they started talking.
Curiosity? Why, when you already know it all?
When you know the answer to everything is oppression what questions can you have?
re: playing to the crowd of other journalists. Funny, I am currently reading Art of the deal by Trump. He actually said that about a reviewer of his design for what was essentially his first major building. Afaik, the event happened in the early to mid 80s and Trump was still a democrat then.
It is simple: They did not interview Musk to have an honest conversation. They did it so that they could create a spectacle of them criticizing/ridiculing him to his face. He did not allow them to do this.
If they thought they needed more questions than they did to accomplish that task -- or at bare minimum, it was to be an honest conversation -- there would have been more of them.
People are as curious as they have ever been IMO. If people weren't curious then Joe Rogan would not be the biggest podcast. What has happened is that you have INCURIOUS people in places where people SHOULD be curious particularly journalism. But the problem is that curiosity is being stifled by narrative and cancel culture that don't want you to be curious or to ask questions.
One of the knocks against Asian culture is lack of creativity and wonder how that is. Well it would seem we have found how that happened and living it in real time.
You can't win you should won
Once you are comfortably swimming in the mainstream, sheepishly following the nareqtive, there is no need for curiousity.
People out of the mainstream are much more likely to be curious than sheep who are constantly affirmed by society as being right.
Why should they wuestion anything?
I don't think they are not curious, but if they asked fair questions and allowed him to answer, they are allowing a platform, and that is enough to draw the irritation of their colleagues and fellow activists.
Soon they would be out of a job, if they continued.
Running out of questions is like a truck driver running out of fuel on the highway. duh
Its not a lack of curiosity, he ran out of permited questions
There will ALWAYS be curious people and some that are not.
Elon Musk on Triggernometry when?
Great perspective on Meta-Reporting (aka: The reporting of reporting)! This interviewer was TERRIBLE!
Lets not forget that it was the BBC who started the ominous "Trusted News Initiative"
A good journalist has to have the mind of a barrister, in the old days it was a vocation, a sort of calling, the same as politics should be, passion for a subject is unquenchable and you never run out of questions, unfortunately these jobs are now viewed as "how much can I make as a .." opportunities, and being greedy isnt exclusive to smart people.
The majority of people with common sense don't even tune into lamestream media for news, if they tune in, they tune to see how ludicrous they have gotten.
Totally support what Elon is doing but harping on this “gotcha” moment will backfire because there are many things on Twitter that would embarrass him. But that’s the entire point
"He's guilty of so many crimes".
Ok, name one.
Crickets........
Because he's controlled by the opposition. Remember! If they want heroes, we'll give them heroes.
:\ k.
Most supposed journalists and reporters across MSM come across more as activists with specific ideological views, nothing impartial whatsoever.
Lazy people are not curious.
It was NOT A PROFESSIONAL journalist. He was hired via DEI and did not do the most basic homework about his subject matter. He thought that bringing out the outrage and some tears will make a better interview. _Fantastic university education, folks._
They also refuse to ask the questions. Today we changed the name of Fraser Island. Not 1 journo asked how much is this costing. there are only 6 aboriginals on the island in the 2016 censes . No one is asking the questions?
This is exactly what you two did with Corbyn.
2:01 Dereliction of IQ.
I'm not an "American."
I'm a citizen of the United States of America.
well Musk really didnt want to buy twatter...he had to be sued and forced by a judge to buy it after he attempted to retract his buy offer...
low point of the episode: "have people lost their cusriosity?" A: "some people haven't. You and i haven't, and the people who watch our shows haven't." Pissing in pockets
They aren’t journalists they are activists.