@@marcelrodriguez2067 yeah the heat is a real issue. I did mount mine in a canopy that was on the rim of the tank, but now rimless is the trend. You will never ever beat the color or growth though. I use kessil now and I miss my halides. The shimmer on kessil is too chaotic. Halide shimmer just looked better. Of course the bulbs needing to constantly be replaced and the heat present real challenges. I hope they improve LEDs someday to make them a serious alternative.
Kessils are probably the best but for the price they need to start including some sort of wifi or Bluetooth scheduling. My 100$ crock pot came with wifi there’s no reason a 400$ light shouldn’t.
I’ve been a Kessil fan since they came out and all my tanks,reef and two freshwater planted are on various models of kessils.I used to snorkel a lot and the first thing that gets your attention on shallow water is the shimmer and Kessil has duplicated that in their lights.
Kessil! No comparison at all in my mind! You want the tank to look good, and nothing comes close to the shimmer of Kessil! The flat look of the radioed is a non starter for me. Kessil, all time favourite lights!
I’ve been running Kessil LEDs on my personal aquariums for over 7 years. I have no issues still to this day. I hope you continue loving them. The x models are pretty cool.
I bought the g4's when they first came out, $4000.00 then over $1000.00 for their mount! A few months later the perfect lighting system was deemed inefficient by its manufacturer and a upgrade was suggested in the form of a over priced diffuser. The g6 will be another iteration of a light system that needs an upgrade in a year lol. The Kessel that I bought 4 years ago is still current suggesting to me that the system was a good buy. Not to mention that the 96" mount that I bought for the radions can't adequately support the light without a very noticeable bow.
I don't do salt water tanks but I love watching others. I have a few freshwater tanks that are 23" deep and I was debating on a few different lights, twinstar, onf, and kessil. All the would do well for my purposes but I really like that shimmer from the kessil. Thank you for sharing this.
First... love the shimmer! It looks so much better... that said just remember that an LED running at 100% will have a much shorter life span than an LED running at 30%. This is due to the fact that the rate of defect formation (also known as electron traps) in a P-N junction (the light emitting boundary of different semiconductor materials in a diode) is proportional to the power per unit area traveling through the P-N junction. The rate of defect formation also accelerates with time for all LEDs as each defect causes more heat in the junction which in turn causes more defects. Running an LED at 30% of it's rated max current will significantly extend the life of that LED compared to running it at full power... So just use enough Kessil's to allow you to turn down the intensity just as you have done with the Radions. Of course that kind of defeats the benefit of the Kessil's small sleek size but that shimmer is definitely worth it! One other note is that the shimmer effect is due simply to the geometry of a "point source" light and the surface agitations acting as a random focusing lens for that point source of light. With the Radion light the larger area of the light source essentially acts as several lower intensity point sources all next to each which causes that shimmer effect to average out into uniform lighting.
Wow, look at the difference in the water shimmer effect. I have heard other youtube channels talk about it, but having side by side comparison makes it very noticeable.
IMO I think kessils are an excellent choice and I like the way the tanks looks like. Although the radions are the Cadillac of lights I think I’d lean on kessil
Tank looks great! Clean water quality and spacious setup. Both lights are great! Me personally, have Kessil (shimmer preference). Radion has powerful, full light. Visual performance ultimately up to the buyer. 😎😃
When I bought my first Kessils probably 8 years ago I was so stunned that since that day I consider kessil as the best light ever. Back then it was bigger, now it is really small. It powers most of my tanks. It brings life with the amazing shimmer and colours. My new build will have kessils because there is nothing better. I was here to see how other lights can play as a potential new light but no shimmer???:) thank you radion I stay with Kessil :)
Are you running the Radions with the diffusers on them? That maybe why your not seeing as much shimmer from them. I'm with others, Kessils have too much shimmer for my taste.
Hi there, great vid. I was wondering your tank length? I’m about to buy kessil sand need to know how many I need. I’m putting them with 2x Reef Brite XHO LED with them. Great content Regards Duzzy🇦🇺
I love my kessils. If you have a deep tank they make a narrow beam reflector that will increase par at the bottom of the tank. But it reduces the spread from 3x3 to 2x2 if I remember correctly. I have one on my tank and they work surprisingly well!
Adding kessil to add more blue tuna shades would be thing to do. They would help to make more growth to SPS and other corals. You could also add a orphek bar to support more blue shades to assist coral growth, its cheaper than kessils. But your tank is too early or needs to be introduced with more corals for that demand. Kessils are way to go they add decisive shimmer but an extra blend to the tank lighting. I would suggest to add them with extensions facing front to back so they give more head on shimmer and also get those shadows under the corals and rocks covered. Great work. Enjoying your tank series.
I ran halides 20 years ago. Kessil is the only light that can Mimic that crisp white/blue light of halides or recreate the shimmer. I'm upgrading my lights currently, going with 2 radion g6 xr30 and 2 kessil a360x.
Love to see the Radion vs Maxspect, Just switched out my Kessil to a Maxspect and still have good shimmer but much more control-ability in the Maxspect jump L165.
I have the T5 hybrid with 2 Kessil A360Xs. I went back and forth with trying to decide which one to get. I'm very happy with my kessils. Small footprint, powerful light. Plus the Echotech app is horrible! It hardly ever works so I know that would've been an issue. But I am happy and my corks are happy with my decision.
That’s a great comparison video. I have a 40gallon breeder build. I was looking into kessil lights. What would you run for a tank that size? Radions are too pricey for me unfortunately. I do love the shimmer effect of the kessil
Well, I was going to get the Kessil but I don’t know if I want constant shimmer like that. I do like that Kessil has knobs to manually set parameters. I don’t need to set lights with my phone. Set the lights and leave them alone!
Wow, you have a shop of new equipment in your house 👏. Really enjoyed seeing the Kessil Vs Radion side by side. I think the fish prefer the Radion side - so that gets my vote 👍
I went from Kessil to radion before I got out of the hobby 2 years ago. Not gonna lie I actually liked the Kessil more. Getting back in the hobby again and Kessil it is for me.
Kessil has more shimmer, but also more shadow. If you are keeping a lot of SPS, then Kessil is a no no. I would love to use Radio for SPS tanks, but a Chinese Black box will also accomplish the same task as the Radion. If you are just keeping LPS and Soft coral, then Kessil is a better choice for your tank.
So glad I went AI Prime as I find the Shimmer of kessil too much, just cant look at it for long and the blandness of the new radion is also a bit much when compared side by side...the Prime visually sits nicely between the two in the goldilocks zone
The test is interesting but you are comparing a 900$ vs a 450$ fixture. To be more realistic you should use Kessil A500X and also a invest in a PAR meter that is very useful. Thanks for sharing you experience with a lot of details.
The shimmer of a Kessil is impressive for sure. But, it's far too much for me. I had 360s and it was not enjoyable for me to look at even with t5s as the fill light. I've got g5's now with diffusers and I love the look of the tank now.
Kessil has that shimmer. Radion looks like trash. Almost like T5. Without that shimmer, why even reef? I can't even imagine using the Radion.. so expensive and looks so bad. Why not just use T5? so much cheaper... It's going to look bad either way. Thanks for this! I used to do MH, and I'm just getting back to the hobby. Now I know not to consider radion at all. This was an awesome video!!!! You shaved me so much time. I'm a diver. There is shimmer in the ocean. That's what I want. The ocean doesn't look like the radion. If you spend time in the ocean and want to bring it home.... you need mh or that kessil. The radion doesn't look like nature. It looks like pure garbage. I can't believe people even like that lighting.
I love the shimmer more but there is something to be said about the ultra still air like quality from the radions...also I think radions are just egotistical with their prices
@@rudra7615 Metal Halides, Kessil, AI, RedSea, and many Chinese led's produce shimmer. Many, people like shimmer. (Also older gen Ecotech produce more shimmer than G5).
I have a Kessil AP9x over my 3' tank. No need for wifi dongles or anything. Can act as a hub for 360x, Refugium lights, etc also. I am 100% satisfied with this option. I am not a fan of the 360x itself, unfortunately.
i have 2 hydras 26s over my sticks dominated tank and its time to upgrade ,was thinking of that same light and i have a 36 tank i always love kessil look and shimmer how you think the shadowing would be more or less than the hydras?
Radions all the way for sure, yes Kessil does have that small foot print but I think it you plan to use the hybrid with reef brite strips then maybe yes but I think Radions alone are good without anything else.
Kessil is the best hands down. You can't beat that shimmer. Just having that realistic ocean effects are awesome!
Sure you can beat it! 400 watt radium metal halide.
@@tookmyhandle2 too much heat and you cant hang fromvthe back of the tank. I dont do hanging from ceiling.
@@marcelrodriguez2067 yeah the heat is a real issue. I did mount mine in a canopy that was on the rim of the tank, but now rimless is the trend. You will never ever beat the color or growth though. I use kessil now and I miss my halides. The shimmer on kessil is too chaotic. Halide shimmer just looked better. Of course the bulbs needing to constantly be replaced and the heat present real challenges. I hope they improve LEDs someday to make them a serious alternative.
I hate that shimmer haha
Unless your prone to seizures!!
Kessils are probably the best but for the price they need to start including some sort of wifi or Bluetooth scheduling. My 100$ crock pot came with wifi there’s no reason a 400$ light shouldn’t.
Kessil is the best light more natural lighting for sure! beautiful!
I’ve been a Kessil fan since they came out and all my tanks,reef and two freshwater planted are on various models of kessils.I used to snorkel a lot and the first thing that gets your attention on shallow water is the shimmer and Kessil has duplicated that in their lights.
BRS did a comparison of the two, Kessil took the win. Also their most recommended light for I believe 3 years straight. I love the shimmer myself
Kessil! No comparison at all in my mind! You want the tank to look good, and nothing comes close to the shimmer of Kessil! The flat look of the radioed is a non starter for me.
Kessil, all time favourite lights!
I run the kessil T5 combo. The T5s softens the shimmer. I love that kessil shimmer!
It is crazy how much area a Kessil can cover.
Added Kessil A360x the other day and I am in love!!
I’ve been running Kessil LEDs on my personal aquariums for over 7 years. I have no issues still to this day. I hope you continue loving them. The x models are pretty cool.
I bought the g4's when they first came out, $4000.00 then over $1000.00 for their mount! A few months later the perfect lighting system was deemed inefficient by its manufacturer and a upgrade was suggested in the form of a over priced diffuser. The g6 will be another iteration of a light system that needs an upgrade in a year lol. The Kessel that I bought 4 years ago is still current suggesting to me that the system was a good buy. Not to mention that the 96" mount that I bought for the radions can't adequately support the light without a very noticeable bow.
I don't do salt water tanks but I love watching others. I have a few freshwater tanks that are 23" deep and I was debating on a few different lights, twinstar, onf, and kessil. All the would do well for my purposes but I really like that shimmer from the kessil. Thank you for sharing this.
First... love the shimmer! It looks so much better... that said just remember that an LED running at 100% will have a much shorter life span than an LED running at 30%. This is due to the fact that the rate of defect formation (also known as electron traps) in a P-N junction (the light emitting boundary of different semiconductor materials in a diode) is proportional to the power per unit area traveling through the P-N junction. The rate of defect formation also accelerates with time for all LEDs as each defect causes more heat in the junction which in turn causes more defects. Running an LED at 30% of it's rated max current will significantly extend the life of that LED compared to running it at full power... So just use enough Kessil's to allow you to turn down the intensity just as you have done with the Radions. Of course that kind of defeats the benefit of the Kessil's small sleek size but that shimmer is definitely worth it! One other note is that the shimmer effect is due simply to the geometry of a "point source" light and the surface agitations acting as a random focusing lens for that point source of light. With the Radion light the larger area of the light source essentially acts as several lower intensity point sources all next to each which causes that shimmer effect to average out into uniform lighting.
I think I understand what you're saying, but, could you explain it one more time.
Would the 500x make a wise choice because you can run it at 40-50% power and get great spread and enough par for a beautiful mixed reef?
definitely more intense shimmer from the kessil as everyone says. thanks for posting this!
Wow, look at the difference in the water shimmer effect. I have heard other youtube channels talk about it, but having side by side comparison makes it very noticeable.
I love the Kessil shimmer. I have a Kessil on my 25 peninsula. 😍
I even have one A360X on my tiny 15 Peninsula. The light costs more than my complete tank. :-)
IMO I think kessils are an excellent choice and I like the way the tanks looks like. Although the radions are the Cadillac of lights I think I’d lean on kessil
I like both lights. Different tools for different scenarios I would say. But it is good to see that the coverage is not exaggerated.
Tank looks great! Clean water quality and spacious setup. Both lights are great! Me personally, have Kessil (shimmer preference). Radion has powerful, full light. Visual performance ultimately up to the buyer. 😎😃
You need to get the Kessil light reflector! Helps a lot with the shimmer on the walls. Also helps concentrate the light.
When I bought my first Kessils probably 8 years ago I was so stunned that since that day I consider kessil as the best light ever. Back then it was bigger, now it is really small. It powers most of my tanks. It brings life with the amazing shimmer and colours. My new build will have kessils because there is nothing better. I was here to see how other lights can play as a potential new light but no shimmer???:) thank you radion I stay with Kessil :)
Are you running the Radions with the diffusers on them? That maybe why your not seeing as much shimmer from them. I'm with others, Kessils have too much shimmer for my taste.
Thanks for the side by side, very informative. Tank looks great!
I think it would be cool to try the 1 Kessil in the middle
Or 2 kessils on the outsides and the Radion in the middle
Maybe I’m mad but I prefer the flatter look of the radions. The shimmer when I look at it for a long time it makes me feel a bit sick.
Look at that Kessil shimmer, beautiful!
Hi there, great vid. I was wondering your tank length? I’m about to buy kessil sand need to know how many I need. I’m putting them with 2x Reef Brite XHO LED with them. Great content
Regards Duzzy🇦🇺
Nice Video - its a G5 Pro or Blue ?
Do u running the AB+ in this Video for the comparison ?
Awesome setup dude. I love that light rake. I would to get more info about it and create one for myself. :)
I love my kessils. If you have a deep tank they make a narrow beam reflector that will increase par at the bottom of the tank. But it reduces the spread from 3x3 to 2x2 if I remember correctly. I have one on my tank and they work surprisingly well!
Adding kessil to add more blue tuna shades would be thing to do. They would help to make more growth to SPS and other corals. You could also add a orphek bar to support more blue shades to assist coral growth, its cheaper than kessils. But your tank is too early or needs to be introduced with more corals for that demand.
Kessils are way to go they add decisive shimmer but an extra blend to the tank lighting. I would suggest to add them with extensions facing front to back so they give more head on shimmer and also get those shadows under the corals and rocks covered.
Great work. Enjoying your tank series.
You may have just changed my mind about radion vs kessil for my build. That shimmer!
I ran halides 20 years ago. Kessil is the only light that can Mimic that crisp white/blue light of halides or recreate the shimmer. I'm upgrading my lights currently, going with 2 radion g6 xr30 and 2 kessil a360x.
Love to see the Radion vs Maxspect, Just switched out my Kessil to a Maxspect and still have good shimmer but much more control-ability in the Maxspect jump L165.
I have the T5 hybrid with 2 Kessil A360Xs. I went back and forth with trying to decide which one to get. I'm very happy with my kessils. Small footprint, powerful light. Plus the Echotech app is horrible! It hardly ever works so I know that would've been an issue. But I am happy and my corks are happy with my decision.
Great video , it took away any questions that I had in making my choice.
That’s a great comparison video. I have a 40gallon breeder build. I was looking into kessil lights. What would you run for a tank that size? Radions are too pricey for me unfortunately.
I do love the shimmer effect of the kessil
Well, I was going to get the Kessil but I don’t know if I want constant shimmer like that. I do like that Kessil has knobs to manually set parameters. I don’t need to set lights with my phone. Set the lights and leave them alone!
You can tame the shimmer down by reducing surface movement, and/or adding T5's.
Kessil + T5 is for many the ultimate combo.
The shimmer in the tank ..yess....all that shimmer on the wall lol...hell no
Thanks 🙏🏾 for showing this!
Wow, you have a shop of new equipment in your house 👏. Really enjoyed seeing the Kessil Vs Radion side by side. I think the fish prefer the Radion side - so that gets my vote 👍
I went from Kessil to radion before I got out of the hobby 2 years ago. Not gonna lie I actually liked the Kessil more. Getting back in the hobby again and Kessil it is for me.
I have the Kessil ap9x and a360x. I am tired of the shimmer which makes me dizzy. Plan to replace with the ecotech XR30 blue.
Did you try the kessil and the Radion together in the same space?
Love the vids and the tank 👌😬
Kessil has more shimmer, but also more shadow. If you are keeping a lot of SPS, then Kessil is a no no. I would love to use Radio for SPS tanks, but a Chinese Black box will also accomplish the same task as the Radion. If you are just keeping LPS and Soft coral, then Kessil is a better choice for your tank.
Do you sell any of your unused equipment. Asking from a reefer looking to upgrade without the biggest budget
I personally run 2 kessil on the corners and radion in the middle 🤙🏻 never been happier 🙏🏻
So glad I went AI Prime as I find the Shimmer of kessil too much, just cant look at it for long and the blandness of the new radion is also a bit much when compared side by side...the Prime visually sits nicely between the two in the goldilocks zone
The trick is to do a kessil with fill light from primes or radions. You get the shimmer without the headaches.
Отличное сравнение 👍, благодарю Вас за обзор.
I think I might be the only one that doesn't like too much shimmer 🙈 I run my radions with a diffuser just to reduce the shimmer 🤣
I agree. I like shimmer but damn the kessil might make me sick if I buy them hahaha. The radion looks so clean.
I’m actually considering kessil for my next light.
I have aiprimes now which I’m not happy with their customers support.
Great video again. Thanks 🙏.
Kessil helping an 8 bulb ati T5 is heaven, shimmer without The dizziness, maybe two kessil and the radion May look similar.
Hi! I can not handle shimmer and thinking of getting radion g6 or neptune sky. Can you tell me if theres any shimmer from radions?
And are you running diffusers? I also get super dizzy from shimmer
You should run two Kessils in between the Radions.
I like where your head is at.
I would do one Kessil A500X in between the two Radions.
What mount is that for the Radions? Can anyone post a link to it? Thanks.
Kessil are banging. I got a A360x over my 15g waterbox it’s 🔥you should switch to all kessil A360x tuna blues. That tank would look incredible
I love the shimmer but don’t no if it will grow sps coral as good as the gen 5 I have the g4 now and would love to get kessil
Many thanks for doing this 🙏 ,but way too much reflection on to the walls would drive me crazy 😜 Like your pink 😃it’s different 👍🏴
Love the video. Need to ask u a few questions.
that will look great!
I would love to see a cost video for your setup. Excluding corals and rock of course
Can’t he’s sponsored
I bought one and love it
The Kessil should be mounted lower. I notice all the light lost on the back wall
Love Kessil shimmer.👍
Best of kessil
Yo where you at bro? No more uploads? Still in the hobby?
My tank uses 3 lights, 2 radions and a Kessil in the center. Nice!
What size tank and which radions?
@@EricAllee Custom tank 4.5ft wide. Two G5 XR15 Blues and a Kessil in the center.
@@StNovaSt how do you like this? I think this is the exact setup I was gonna do. Does the Kessil still shimmer the water?
@@marcelosimon4972 yes. Gives a semi spotlight effect. I don’t have that setup anymore but I loved it personally.
The test is interesting but you are comparing a 900$ vs a 450$ fixture. To be more realistic you should use Kessil A500X and also a invest in a PAR meter that is very useful. Thanks for sharing you experience with a lot of details.
I don't care about the shimmer I like the radion vs the Kassel I really like the video showing the difference. Thanks
thank you
Looks awesome, I love the shimmer of the kessels but I also love my radions.
The shimmer of a Kessil is impressive for sure. But, it's far too much for me. I had 360s and it was not enjoyable for me to look at even with t5s as the fill light. I've got g5's now with diffusers and I love the look of the tank now.
What you use now?
Need the shimmer. G5's have that flat T5 look
So wich better radion then kessil ?
I got 2 kessil a360x on my 54g mixed reef and they growing 2 maxima clams and sps great
What are your power heads?
Kessil has that shimmer. Radion looks like trash. Almost like T5. Without that shimmer, why even reef? I can't even imagine using the Radion.. so expensive and looks so bad. Why not just use T5? so much cheaper... It's going to look bad either way. Thanks for this! I used to do MH, and I'm just getting back to the hobby. Now I know not to consider radion at all. This was an awesome video!!!! You shaved me so much time. I'm a diver. There is shimmer in the ocean. That's what I want. The ocean doesn't look like the radion. If you spend time in the ocean and want to bring it home.... you need mh or that kessil. The radion doesn't look like nature. It looks like pure garbage. I can't believe people even like that lighting.
can you fit 2 kessils in between the radions?
Yes, Kessil, and you don't need 4 kessil just 3 kessil for your tank.
Why would you ever need a 360 for a refuge light the a80 flora is even to much
That shimmer 😃
i’m a shimmer typof guy. lol. kessils were my first light.
Should of waited for the new Kessil A500X high output for SPS and with the changeable reflectors. Come on EAT SLEEP Reef keep up to date LOL!!!
I love the shimmer more but there is something to be said about the ultra still air like quality from the radions...also I think radions are just egotistical with their prices
The remote control is a pain in the ass (wired). The dongle wifi makes this the best. Quality of build is unequaled.
People like shimmer?
It's what you see when snorkling in the ocean, it's natural.
@@Harolddespui which is a small % of total reefers but yeah, I get it. There is a market
@@rudra7615 Metal Halides, Kessil, AI, RedSea, and many Chinese led's produce shimmer. Many, people like shimmer.
(Also older gen Ecotech produce more shimmer than G5).
Go for the Kessil led 100%
I have a Kessil AP9x over my 3' tank. No need for wifi dongles or anything. Can act as a hub for 360x, Refugium lights, etc also. I am 100% satisfied with this option. I am not a fan of the 360x itself, unfortunately.
i have 2 hydras 26s over my sticks dominated tank and its time to upgrade ,was thinking of that same light and i have a 36 tank i always love kessil look and shimmer how you think the shadowing would be more or less than the hydras?
T5 look for me! shimmer just takes your eye of other stuff you like in tank!
Kessil all the way, that shimmer is life...😂😎
He got his hands on. He means they gave him free shit. While we pay outrageous prices because they give smucks like this free shit
Kessil shimmer is way too overpowering. Halide is the best shimmer available and no LED has matched it.
Radions all the way for sure, yes Kessil does have that small foot print but I think it you plan to use the hybrid with reef brite strips then maybe yes but I think Radions alone are good without anything else.
Ya got too much money 🤣🤣
Cant compare an a360x to an xr30. The a360x is more on par with xr15.
Antonio so sorry you have to start fresh!
Wow... the difference in shimmer
Thank you for the comparison. I will never buy Kessil becasse of that shimmer.
3 radions? Your rich!!!
Its reflecting off water to wall