Fanny Kelly Faces Death at the Hands of Vengeful Sioux Chiefs for General Sully's Attack ep. 9, 1864

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  • In this episode we read from "Narrative of My Captivity Among the Sioux Indians," by Fanny Kelly
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  • @GenXstacker
    @GenXstacker Рік тому +25

    This account is as raw and honest as it gets. You can tell Fanny both admired and hated the natives. She mocks the naive romanticized notions of Europeans towards the so-called noble savages, yet she also represents certain episodes in which they acted nobly. For instance, she records the chief's defense of her when they wanted to kiII her in revenge for those lost in battle with Sully and the soldiers. He argued for not taking vengeance on the innocent, which is a very civilized reaction to such passions. Most people are a mix of good and evil, of love and hate, vengeance and mercy. Her account rings true to my ears.

    • @angela2726
      @angela2726 10 місяців тому +4

      Except that she said she didn't understand the language. Which means she didn't understand what he was talking about except she was saved!

    • @stevestowell-virtue3781
      @stevestowell-virtue3781 9 місяців тому +1

      I think Fanny's account was acute as viewed through her eyes, as a young white female captive; however, I think she honestly and mistakenly, disrupted Sitting Bulls' efforts to prevent war.

  • @horsewithnoname8795
    @horsewithnoname8795 11 місяців тому +6

    I was touch by the part where Fanny tells about Divine support she received from God during her ordeal: "While my temporal wants were thus poorly supplied I was not wholly denied spiritual food, it was a blessed consolation that no earthly foe could interrupt my communion with the Heavenly World. In my midnight waking hours I was visited with many bright visions: "He walks with thee, that angel kind and gently whispered, be resigned. Bear up, bear on the end shall tell; The dear Lord ordereth all things well." " It warms my heart to hear testimonies of this magnitude proving our Lord is always near to us, that He hears our prayers that He is always ready to sustain and rescue us; Blessed be the name of our God and of his son Jesus Christ.

  • @lindasimons691
    @lindasimons691 Рік тому +42

    The writer's ability to remember such detail and the way she describes what she sees is truly a gift. It disappoints me that we don't use so much of the vocabulary which is available to us.
    Thoroughly enjoy your content.

    • @mauriceclark4870
      @mauriceclark4870 Рік тому +2

      I guess it was. Inevitable. That. The invasion on of their territory would come they the Redman just wanted. Live as they have for. Eo ns hunting fishing. And just living a free life. It's sad that it. Ended in a violent way

    • @nettiewolverinethunderbird8341
      @nettiewolverinethunderbird8341 Рік тому +3

      She is such a descriptive writer!

  • @murrayshanaughan2650
    @murrayshanaughan2650 Рік тому +72

    These stories are shockingly eye opening, considering we often have romanticised views of the wild west. The truth really is stranger than fiction. The truth is riveting because it is the truth. Good value, thanks for sharing it.

    • @nettiewolverinethunderbird8341
      @nettiewolverinethunderbird8341 Рік тому

      Have you read uncle Tom's cabin? It's written with what everyone is thinking. I really think you find it educational. 1800s she writes dear reader I plead to your Christian conscience against slavery. I can't be silent anymore. Is any child more or less precious? I implore you to follow our nations laws

  • @markmiller1760
    @markmiller1760 6 місяців тому +2

    I was blessed to have Fr. Louis Phaller as my history teacher in high school. An awesome big-bear of a man with a very gentle heart. He inspired my interest in history that still persists 60+years later. May God grant him eternal peace.

  • @kenfox22
    @kenfox22 Рік тому +3

    She was a very articulate writer. Chief Ottawa words saved her. Thank God

  • @melidee1479
    @melidee1479 Рік тому +3

    Her faith and testimony are so inspirational. Thank you for sharing these.

  • @vermontnative5676
    @vermontnative5676 Рік тому +30

    It’s absolutely horrific how some people can inflict so much pain on another.

    • @markmcallan973
      @markmcallan973 Рік тому +4

      That's what we do! This is how we got here!

    • @Caperhere
      @Caperhere Рік тому

      Yes, wiping out the buffalo food supply for an entire nation of people, then killing off most of the people of that nation to steal their land is pretty savage. And typical.

    • @josmotherman591
      @josmotherman591 Рік тому +1

      It is Man's inhumanity to Man. Age old.

    • @mineralmerchant00
      @mineralmerchant00 7 місяців тому +2

      The land wasn't "stolen" , it was conquered, a concept the natives fully understood because they did it themselves.

  • @Placard1203
    @Placard1203 Рік тому +21

    If the Missouri river was what she swam across, it is a miracle that anyone survived at all. Libbie Custer wrote that many soldiers and horses have drowned trying to pursue the indians (of different conflicts). The Big Muddy weighs you down. It is insanity to even try, but I've read witness accounts from soldiers that it is true. Riverboats were used to get the cavalry across in groups which is no small feat and time consuming. Very well read by the way. I love your narration and look forward to every story!

  • @Cat-qn1yw
    @Cat-qn1yw Рік тому +16

    Leaves me wanting to know more of Fanny and the Sioux.

  • @nettiewolverinethunderbird8341

    I really appreciate these stories and the excellence of the research in the pictures. Thank you

  • @APHill-ip8qt
    @APHill-ip8qt Рік тому +27

    I always look forward to your new episodes. Great job!

  • @alanmclean6690
    @alanmclean6690 Рік тому +9

    This is facinating history and excellent presentation.

  • @vickilawrence7207
    @vickilawrence7207 Рік тому +15

    I love these stories! How terrifying it must have been & how courageous these ppl were esp women & children that escaped

    • @butterfliesarefreetofly6964
      @butterfliesarefreetofly6964 Рік тому +12

      No, how terrifying it was for the babies, children & women to have been shot by these calvary guys. To have your babies thrown in the air & shot by a gun like a puck. How terrifying it was for children to run for their lives & still get killed. All the little children at Sand Creek who put the smallest children on the bottom and the older children trying to shelter them but the calvary still killed all of them. How terrifying it was for our way of life to be taken from us & put on these desolate reservations. Those are the courageous and terrified people!

    • @creaturecaldwell9858
      @creaturecaldwell9858 Рік тому +1

      ​@@butterfliesarefreetofly6964 . I suppose it was on both sides..though the tribes had it against them more because of the policy to take away

    • @EranRicos
      @EranRicos Рік тому +1

      @@butterfliesarefreetofly6964 self hating is never a solution. I suppose that there has never been a self-hating culture as this.

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 Рік тому +5

      ​@@EranRicos No one is asking for hate. Recognition of why Native Americans fought to keep their culture, their land, indeed their very lives. Wrong was done on both sides, but wouldn't you fight to the bitter end to keep and defend what is yours?

    • @EranRicos
      @EranRicos Рік тому +5

      @@samsmom1491 Goes both ways. Natives also did it to each other. No one alive today can claim all their ancestors were always peaceful and helped humanity. We all have a shoddy history. Some more than others. If we learn to understand our role and what our ancestors have done, especially as we go back in time recognize, we realize no one is innocent. We each have blood on our hands.

  • @shakesalegsometimes9575
    @shakesalegsometimes9575 Рік тому +6

    Thank you, Mr Worthy. 😃😊

  • @darrenmcg97
    @darrenmcg97 Рік тому +10

    Excellent story well read

  • @mitzibutler6415
    @mitzibutler6415 Рік тому +6

    🙏🏻 Loving your reading of this story. Thank you.

  • @keithkennedy2725
    @keithkennedy2725 Рік тому +1

    I just came upon your website and find to be fascinating…

  • @sandy-quimsrus
    @sandy-quimsrus Рік тому +8

    This reminds me of a book I received in 1977 on the history of the briar rabbit and tar baby tales and how they came about. Time to search my many boxes of books!

  • @glyn829
    @glyn829 Рік тому +8

    Really interesting what an amazing piece of history thanks for sharing 👍

  • @drenergy9786
    @drenergy9786 2 місяці тому +1

    Unworthy or not, I love your presentations 👍👍👍

  • @DonaldKDever
    @DonaldKDever 7 місяців тому +1

    Love your narrations! ❤

  • @shannonm.4087
    @shannonm.4087 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love this channel, and this playlist on Fannie is asesome!!

  • @crissylouarch
    @crissylouarch Рік тому +6

    Great reading. Thank you.

  • @randygraf2474
    @randygraf2474 Рік тому +5

    great history stories, thanks.

  • @bobbie1117
    @bobbie1117 Рік тому +4

    I am so
    glad i found your channel.

  • @luztorres4346
    @luztorres4346 Рік тому +4

    Thank you!

  • @anotheryoutubechannel4809
    @anotheryoutubechannel4809 Рік тому +2

    5:19 Crazy that the idea of the use of wheels never occurred to them.

    • @mineralmerchant00
      @mineralmerchant00 7 місяців тому

      Too busy with kidnap, rape, murder, torture and mutilation I guess.

  • @markpalmer6760
    @markpalmer6760 Рік тому +5

    Amazing story!

  • @deadhorse1391
    @deadhorse1391 Рік тому +13

    Curious that the Indians got so worked up over the Army putting two Indian heads on
    Poles considering they enjoyed their scalp dance so much

    • @patriciajrs46
      @patriciajrs46 Рік тому +2

      Perhaps the Natives have the opiniom that one can do wihout hair. The Natives cannot see their happy hunting ground when their head is not attatched. Just saying.

    • @caroljoan3792
      @caroljoan3792 Рік тому

      We were taking their hunting grounds and way of life.

    • @mineralmerchant00
      @mineralmerchant00 7 місяців тому

      ​@@caroljoan3792the way of life that considered kidnap, rape , torture, mutilation and murder of women and children as socially acceptable behavior? That savage way of life? Yes I know, some whites did those things also and the whites considered them criminals and degenerates because they were. The land wasn't "stolen" it was conquered. A concept the natives fully understood because they did it themselves.

    • @candyphillips2642
      @candyphillips2642 24 дні тому

      There was savergy on both sides.

  • @rt3box6tx74
    @rt3box6tx74 Рік тому +19

    I wonder if Chief Ottowa received reciprocal mercy after speaking up to save her?

    • @alrightdave3893
      @alrightdave3893 Рік тому

      He was hung

    • @sandy-quimsrus
      @sandy-quimsrus Рік тому +1

      Doubt it.

    • @davec4224
      @davec4224 Рік тому +5

      Well he is not the one that was kidnapped and had his child murdered. Hmm

    • @Tsonontowan
      @Tsonontowan Рік тому

      Yes

    • @clayrankin8343
      @clayrankin8343 Рік тому

      @@davec4224 But look at all the women and children he DIDN'T kill! He should be praised!

  • @tonyholt90
    @tonyholt90 Рік тому +5

    Brilliant and interesting chanel.thanks 👍

  • @gpp5655
    @gpp5655 Рік тому +4

    My only complaint is that it seems like such a long period between reads. Good narration.

  • @markthomas4083
    @markthomas4083 Рік тому +1

    This video was full of information. Great illustrations. Thank you for creating such a fine video.

  • @Phantom2316
    @Phantom2316 Рік тому +2

    Just found your channel And your videos are very well made thank you !

  • @cierakitty
    @cierakitty Рік тому +6

    If Fanny gave the account..... as this clip implies....she was a most educated young woman to have used such words in her description of what all went on.

    • @unworthyhistory
      @unworthyhistory  Рік тому +5

      I think the overall literacy rate was much higher in those times.

    • @wisconsinfarmer4742
      @wisconsinfarmer4742 Рік тому +2

      Ghost writer from the east. You can tell by the geological and natural history interjections.

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 Рік тому

      In the 1990s I saw my mother-in-law's textbook from high school (in the 1940s) and they were way more advanced than kids in the 90s or after that. I'm also sure she had a ghost writer to liven it up, per se.

    • @clayrankin8343
      @clayrankin8343 Рік тому +2

      Being a history buff, I've read personal letters from explorers or other adventurers writing home to their wives, sweethearts or family from the 18th and 19th century. If they are literate at all, they speak much as Fanny Kelly does. Very eloquent and flowery in their descriptions. It demonstrated their command of the language. They would no doubt be in top form when writing the narrative for a book. Fanny may have elicited help with her editing, but why even imply that the experience was not hers? To what end?

  • @marvinabigby5509
    @marvinabigby5509 Рік тому +3

    My ancestors came from Virginia with a team of oxen.Thry were not immigrants. They had been in this country since 1600s.

  • @uncatila
    @uncatila Рік тому +2

    I would rescue Fanny if i lived back then.

  • @samsmom1491
    @samsmom1491 Рік тому +2

    My great, great, great (you get the point) grandmother and her father were the only ones in their settlement to survive an Indian massacre back in the 1800s.

  • @sheepdog1102
    @sheepdog1102 Рік тому +3

    What a woman!😊

  • @debherr1261
    @debherr1261 Рік тому +1

    So over kill & horrific actions are not so new. Shows how hard it is for us to get this horror out of our actions. Wish it would stop

  • @michaelshapely9886
    @michaelshapely9886 Рік тому +4

    Quality stuff

  • @WhispersFromTheDark
    @WhispersFromTheDark Рік тому +3

    Question: Are you related to any of the Worthy's in Slidell Texas?

  • @wesleyestill7653
    @wesleyestill7653 Рік тому +3

    How many wagon trains were attacked, how many settlers were raped, robbed, murdered... before there was a Trail of Tears?

    • @unworthyhistory
      @unworthyhistory  Рік тому

      Here are a couple of attacks from the 1600s: ua-cam.com/video/H3n_RmDlu5Y/v-deo.html

    • @creaturecaldwell9858
      @creaturecaldwell9858 Рік тому

      Not as much as villages and homes attacked by soldiers and/or volunteers who murdered women and children..only it isn't a contest if that's what you think

    • @clayrankin8343
      @clayrankin8343 Рік тому +1

      @@creaturecaldwell9858 Had the Indians not attacked and murdered the men and tortured, raped and murdered white women and children or dragged them away as slaves or for ransom, robbed and burned trading posts and wagon trains there would have been no need for soldiers coming out west to defend them. You reap what you sow.

  • @joeldm5278
    @joeldm5278 Рік тому +21

    The so called " native " Sioux ..was a cruel..savage enemy..torturing prisoners was normal for them

    • @nicksmith3746
      @nicksmith3746 Рік тому +4

      They all tortured for pleasure before killing....

    • @joeldm5278
      @joeldm5278 Рік тому

      @Harupert Beagleton Nonsense. Get yer facts straight.

    • @JackDiamond21
      @JackDiamond21 Рік тому

      Being a descendant of the Sioux, it makes me proud you white people still fear us like that. Only focusing on the negative only, we weren't totally savage there were some of us that had a level thinking head. If we were so horrible to our captives why did this lady live to tell her tale?? Hahaha I love it when you white people fear us, makes me wish we really did torture every captive we had, wouldn't want you to be a liar.

    • @JackDiamond21
      @JackDiamond21 Рік тому

      You white people actively were committing genocide, sure our way of life was warfare. But like I said not all of us were brutal like this. As you can see from her tale that we weren't as what you say we are. We were honorable, not all of our enemies were mutilated. We honored bravery, so if white people were brave or were known to be good fighters they were left alone. Some of us Sioux even had white relatives and would save them. If we see you as family we will protect you and stand up for you until we die. But sure we are nothing but blood thirsty savages, you keep forgetting the Dakota people had no choice but war. The savages you speak of are the Comanche, they were the most brutal tribe on the plains. Had the Comanche captured her she would have been raped, mutilated, and burned. The Dakota would have only taken a scalp if they killed her. The Cheyenne would have done a little more to her, and like I said the Comanche would have done horrible things to her. They didn't let anyone live, torturing prisoners was sport for the Comanche. Learn your shit before making such comments. Not saying we weren't a brutal people, look at the live we lived if you weren't brutal you died. The price to pay for living a free nomadic life, stupid white people, I really wished they horrifically cut her up and left her to rot. Since we are nothing but blood thirsty savages, I really hope Putin sends a nuke this way, all he needs is to hit the entire eastern side of the United States, where all you white people live hahahaha 200 million of you will die, and I'll have the biggest smile on my face.

    • @skannerdk7268
      @skannerdk7268 Рік тому +4

      @@nicksmith3746 The Comanche did for sure

  • @patriciajrs46
    @patriciajrs46 Рік тому +1

    You didn't tell how she got rescued!
    I still say I might be distantly related. My childhood pictures, I look like her in the picture you show here.

  • @ccl005jn
    @ccl005jn Рік тому +6

    Whatever happened to the little girl Mary?

    • @crissylouarch
      @crissylouarch Рік тому +2

      Yes, what?

    • @shakesalegsometimes9575
      @shakesalegsometimes9575 Рік тому +1

      She got away and when she was found she was murdered. Poor thing

    • @ccl005jn
      @ccl005jn Рік тому

      @@shakesalegsometimes9575 Sad. I missed that somewhere in the story.

    • @unworthyhistory
      @unworthyhistory  Рік тому +2

      The fate of little Mary is told later in the book, so it hasn’t been told in any episode so far. Probably need to get to that soon, since it’s a common question.

    • @ccl005jn
      @ccl005jn Рік тому

      @@unworthyhistory Oh ok. I just thought I'd missed something. Really enjoying your channel.

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 Рік тому +3

    She was in captured hands of the spirit leader Sittingbull hunkpapa Lakota sioux war leader. Sittingbull would never hurt his captives. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.

  • @randygraf2474
    @randygraf2474 Рік тому +1

    any history on Texas battle of San Jacinto?

  • @Cat-qn1yw
    @Cat-qn1yw Рік тому +5

    How does this end?

    • @sandy-quimsrus
      @sandy-quimsrus Рік тому +2

      She lived to tell the tale! : )

    • @okiedokieartichokie772
      @okiedokieartichokie772 Рік тому

      You can actually find the whole audiobook right on UA-cam. I just finished it. Her life had so much more happen after her ordeal. Definetly worth reading!

    • @caroljoan3792
      @caroljoan3792 Рік тому

      Amazing.

  • @tphvictims5101
    @tphvictims5101 Рік тому

    AMAZING CONTENT 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @patriciajrs46
    @patriciajrs46 Рік тому +2

    Does anyone know what happened to Fanny after she got rescued? I keep wondering if I am related to her.
    Fanny was quite pretty.

    • @patriciajrs46
      @patriciajrs46 Рік тому

      @@mycinnamongirl Her name was Fanny Kelly. I am related to the Kelly family, at least in one line.

    • @marthawelch4289
      @marthawelch4289 Рік тому

      @@patriciajrs46 Kelly is an extremely popular last name for the Irish. There are numerous family lines in the United States.
      If you want to pursue the search for your ancestors there are several entities/companies that will perform DNA searches for a fee.

    • @patriciajrs46
      @patriciajrs46 Рік тому +1

      ​@@marthawelch4289That's true, there are many. As I said, one of my childhood pictures looks like Fanny.
      I'm related to David Herndon Kelley. Just wondering.

  • @Nute1985
    @Nute1985 Рік тому

    All humans no matter gender , color, race or creed has owned or used others as slaves . Its a unfortunate thing , but its fact !!

  • @billharrison3569
    @billharrison3569 Рік тому +3

    I would think that Fanny Kelly wrote her memoir from memory as she had nothing to record on at the time. Also, in parts of this episode where she accounting the words of the chiefs, how after approximately a month in captivity would she understand the language the spoke? I would think that much of her recollection was conjecture...assumption ?

    • @clayrankin8343
      @clayrankin8343 Рік тому

      I believe it is obvious that her mind had been sharpened by the intial attack, her senses keened and in narrating the book, the memory of her early abduction and captivity was no doubt bolstered by her friend Sarah Larimer (as some of their narrative in their books is verbatim). She made clear that some of the natives spoke English, so with their assistance ("what did he say?") along with contextual growls grunts and hostile gestures, she could ascertain the meaning of any communication directed at her. I am sure she didn't have the type of distractions we have at our fingertips today to sidetrack her in her efforts to memorialize her strife, should she ever be freed. Your line of questioning is clearly an attempt to discredit her accounts. You are not among like-minded folk here.

    • @angela2726
      @angela2726 10 місяців тому

      ​​@@clayrankin8343I was thinking more along the lines of how she was capable of surviving in such a terrible situation and her sense of direction. Obviously the men in her wagon train were not the only ones who directed their lives. Women had learned to survive on their own. I am waiting to see how she was treated on her libération

  • @nicksmith3746
    @nicksmith3746 Рік тому +1

    Great channel...

  • @andreww1225
    @andreww1225 Рік тому +1

    hard life

  • @wisconsinfarmer4742
    @wisconsinfarmer4742 Рік тому

    she may have missed her chance at the river, to swim downstream at the Missouri

  • @curtwuollet2912
    @curtwuollet2912 Рік тому +1

    I'm curious how she knew what was said.

    • @susanbender2953
      @susanbender2953 Рік тому

      In a previous episode she ssid she was required to sit in while the deliberated.

    • @curtwuollet2912
      @curtwuollet2912 Рік тому +2

      @@susanbender2953 yeah, but I doubt they were deliberating in English.

    • @patriciajrs46
      @patriciajrs46 Рік тому

      After all of the time with them she learned quite a bit of their language.

    • @clayrankin8343
      @clayrankin8343 Рік тому

      In other episodes, she said there were some among her captors that spoke English and conversed with her.

  • @teslagirl1
    @teslagirl1 Рік тому +1

    Awful as some of the things the Sioux did were, the white man was capable of some apalling atrocities ...things so horrible you tube would never allow the comment to stand if I went into detail. Things far worse than you've heard about here, though. I don't think the Sioux cruelty for the most part was anything other than a bi product of escalating hostilities. It started with the first natives that Europeans in this country encountered. Peaceful folks who offered food and assistance ...and were repaid by being kidnapped and sold into slavery. And some of the early colonists in the generations that followed that one weren't poor folk : some had aquired vast sugar plantations in the Caribbean, where the very first contacts had occurred in Columbus' day. Acquisition had been swift and there seemed no limit to it or to human greed. So they took as many natives from those North American tribes as they could pack into ships to islands whose climate they were NOT used to ...where they worked them to death without mercy. This is how peoples who had HELPED the white man could expect to be treated. And worse happened here. The first smallpox blankets were presented to FRIENDLY eastern tribes. " Good Christians" weren't exactly Christian to even the converts who filled the back pews of their churches and lived among them, either -- the exploitation was brutal and many died of it. No wonder the struggle kept escalating for generations.
    But when you look at the sheer number of terrible murders, many involving torture, involving native victims and white and latino killers(and the lack of concern expressed by non native law enforcement) going on in OUR time it seems like the hatred is still alive and well ...at least on one side. The Farmington, New Mexico, torture murders were committed by bored white teenagers who got tired of the time honored local sport of catching inebriated Navajo men alone outside a bar and hitting them with a baseball bat before running away. They wanted more. They did terrible, terrible things to the men they caught after coming to that conclusion. The murders were exceptionally brutal.
    I don't have any quick and easy answers, but I know this much: nothing will change until we human beings learn to treat each other as kindly as we ourselves wish to be treated. When we learn to look at the caliber of a heart rather than the color of skin, when we can put ourselves in the other person's shoes and let ourselves really LEARN about their life ...well, we can start to make some progress. We have the same vulnerabilities and the same strengths. Our differences should be only such differences as we can delight in -- there is much in another's life and culture to delight in. Deep down, we have much more in common with others than most of us will admit ...but admitting that IS the first step into a better world.
    As a person with ancestors both Irish and Cherokee, I say this: we must never forget the past. Not even the darkest stories. Terrible as it is, those constitute a map of all the worst places in the human psyche ...places we MUST not fall into but MUST move past before we can help ourselves and each other throw off the yoke of racial hatred forever. It is going to take a long time. It has already taken a long time. But I see many things which give me hope. Not major things, but like a feather in the wind can show you which way the wind blowing, we shouldn't ignore them.
    Walk your path like you know you are leaving it for someone else to follow.

  • @crystalharris7394
    @crystalharris7394 Рік тому

    💗💗💗

  • @ktloz2246
    @ktloz2246 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if they liked cats?

  • @britzel71
    @britzel71 Рік тому

    Sadly today, few have the grit they had to have now. Easy times create weak men, hard times create strong me. We're living in this nightmare.

  • @healdiseasenow
    @healdiseasenow Рік тому +3

    And remember that innocent victims that were being picked on by the army! They are now victims!

  • @kennithnieman9130
    @kennithnieman9130 Рік тому

    Every one of your videos are scrambled screen , I can't watch them. I don't know why UA-cam does this but it killing your views. Is there any body else that experience this problem ?

  • @Dhrao1943
    @Dhrao1943 Рік тому

    Too much of publicity on this old story to defame native Americans. Pl stop it how many times and centuries we need to listen.

  • @dixiepeach8698
    @dixiepeach8698 Рік тому +2

    It is frightening how much pain is inflicted on each other. The women & children treated so inhumane. I can not imagine being treated this way. We the white man are the intruders. We are invading their land etc.

    • @rosezingleman5007
      @rosezingleman5007 Рік тому +5

      There is no place on earth which wasn’t subject to conquest. The tribes themselves “took land” by conquering those other tribes. They were brutal, even practicing cannibalism and mutilation of the enemy. It’s all very messy. We should remember that the “noble savage” was as much a myth as every other myth employed by historians.

  • @ruthc8407
    @ruthc8407 Рік тому +11

    THANK GOD these tribes were defeated and civilized.

    • @mikeymasters8459
      @mikeymasters8459 Рік тому

      Boomer racist

    • @geothunder1971
      @geothunder1971 Рік тому +5

      We are still proud heathen savages ruth

    • @silviuvisan505
      @silviuvisan505 Рік тому

      Colonizer racist

    • @mikeymasters8459
      @mikeymasters8459 Рік тому +4

      @@silviuvisan505 After browsing through the execrable and discreditable “content” I’m now curious which white nationalist group it’s associated with.💀

    • @arlenestacko3647
      @arlenestacko3647 Рік тому +4

      The natives lived on that land for thousands of years. The government had no right to take their land away from them. Would you have been ok if native Americans went to Europe then forced the people their off their land?

  • @creaturecaldwell9858
    @creaturecaldwell9858 Рік тому +1

    In my relatives case..we just wanted to be left alone yet the soldiers would keep intruding onto our homes..burning them..burning our crops..killing our loved ones..I wish that no innocents were harmed but it was unavoidable when we fought against them. Sometimes the soldiers would have thier wives and family with them at the forts they built so when these forts were attacked the soldiers relatives were harmed..one example was soldiers leaving thier fort and using a steamer boat to escape..well they were ambushed and all were killed. With us few against so many ..as well as against odds that come to our homes instead of us going to thiers for the most part..any target that was close was considered..im sure some farms and homesteads were raided ..though we had some friends who were settlers early on only they were smothered by the masses as we we were..the profiteers were too many

    • @clayrankin8343
      @clayrankin8343 Рік тому +1

      In my relative's case they just wanted to be left alone. But in their travels west, they were set upon by Indians who didn't have any concept of land ownership and anyway, at the time, there was plenty of room for all. The Indians tortured, raped and killed them and stole their stuff, as they had done amongst each other since before recorded history. Much like what befell Fanny Kelly's group. Up here in Canada, the country was first opened up by fur traders and by extention their trading posts. The fur traders were rough men and did not have women and children along during their sojourns, so were hardly ever attacked. Also, the Indians realized to attack trading posts would put an end to their ability to obtain weapons, ammunition, cloth and foodstuffs without travelling great distances. Later, when farmers moved west, they were also attacked by Indians, and were killed and had their stuff stolen. Forts and soldiers were necessary as defensive measures and would not have been necessary except for the Indian attacks. But alas, forts were known to contain a bounty of weapons, horses and foodstuffs and became targets for Indian attacks. Seems to all return to Indian attacks and not "stolen land".

    • @creaturecaldwell9858
      @creaturecaldwell9858 Рік тому

      @@clayrankin8343 . We're all from survivers. What ever anyone considers " stolen " to mean..people of the tribes fought for thier lives and homes like anyone would..like your relatives did..some targeted the closest and easiest .. the common homes of both sides.. for us..in the end it was a combination of our refusal to give up,our homes..the land itself...and the time of change from concerns about the remnants of us to concerns about wars starting with other tribes as territory moved west and the civil war beginning..I personally don't call the land yours or mine ..I tend to think the land owns us in ways..either way..once home..always home..stolen or not. In the time that's now.. it's all of our homes in some form or fashion..we better be careful we don't end up in some giant reservation..

    • @creaturecaldwell9858
      @creaturecaldwell9858 Рік тому

      ​@@clayrankin8343. The one fort I wish lost in any war with a tribe was the buffalo hunters fort ..it wouldn't have changed the loss of the war s for those horse riding tribes but it would have been a great victory.

    • @creaturecaldwell9858
      @creaturecaldwell9858 Рік тому +1

      Damn buffalo hunters

  • @Jimmie567
    @Jimmie567 Рік тому

    This guy is speaking English in these monologues, truly outside the normal lingo i hear ..he neither pauses at points made, or completion of sentence ...he just keeps ranting , way ahead of grandma or most others, terrible narration,,though probably is credit worthy if read correctly

  • @debbiethompson14
    @debbiethompson14 Рік тому

    THEY SHOULDN'T HAVEBEEN THERE!!!!

  • @stephenchristian5739
    @stephenchristian5739 Рік тому

    savages just as they were described, part animal had be be removed as mass migration of a civilization coming in waves.

    • @creaturecaldwell9858
      @creaturecaldwell9858 Рік тому

      I don't think the invaders tried to remove them..they tried to keep them behind fences.. unless you mean murder them while holding them in place is. removing.

    • @mineralmerchant00
      @mineralmerchant00 7 місяців тому

      They were indeed savages of the worse kind.

  • @libertypastor1307
    @libertypastor1307 Рік тому +1

    @18:17 she quotes a portion of Proverbs 13:12.
    To be more authentic in your presentation, you should have at least displayed a quote from the King James Bible, as that would have been what she used in the 1800's.
    Whatever version you displayed did not exist at that time.
    That's a juvenile oversight! And for those of us who are familiar with Satan's plan to undermine the Word of God, a wicked error.

  • @dward8146
    @dward8146 Рік тому +1

    Frankly, it's an embarrassment to be white & listen to these stories of brutality & racism by those in charge. I brought my children up to know about the betrayal by the whites of the indigenous nations. I don't believe there was even one time that the whites ever kept an agreement that was made.
    I am SO sorry that our politicians & forefathers were as unscrupulous then as they are now. God Bless EACH of us & open our hearts to the indignities suffered by what some choose to inflict.
    To listen to these exploits is good for education.

    • @mineralmerchant00
      @mineralmerchant00 7 місяців тому

      So you condone the practice of kidnapping, rape, murder, torture and mutilation? Do you find those actions socially acceptable? Many of the native tribes sure did, hence the label "Savages" because that's exactly what they were. Yes, some whites did these same things and they were considered criminals and degenerates. That behavior was not socially acceptable among the whites. The fact that the natives weren't totally wiped out for their savagery is a true testament to the tolerance the whites had for them. Also, the land wasn't "stolen" like many believe, it was conquered. A concept the natives fully understood because that's how they operated.

  • @hilarybromley3064
    @hilarybromley3064 Рік тому

    Look what we did and still do to the indians

  • @kraanz
    @kraanz Рік тому

    Holt shit is it painful to listen to you read. It's like being read to by a small child.
    On the plus side, you seem to be one of the very few in the English speaking world who doesn't pronounce cavalry as calvary.