0:44 Reception as a Mitigating Condition 2:57 Definition of Reception 3:29 Signs of the Zodiac as Homes 6:15 Ideal Planets for Each Sign 7:51 Firmicus Maternus on the Signs as Home 10:23 Basic Gist of Reception 12:17 Aspects and Aversion 16:06 Earliest Reference to Reception 17:53 Textual Origins of Reception 22:11 Two Different Levels of Reception 26:10 Mutual Reception and Exchanging Signs 31:50 Reception as Familiarity 35:23 Reception as Hospitality 37:27 Quotes on Reception as a Mitigating Factor 44:53 Prerequisites to Understanding Reception Examples (Sect, Overcoming, Bonification/Maltreatment 57:38 Example - Maltreatment without Reception 01:02:17 Che Guevara 01:05:00 Maltreatment by Mars without Reception 01:08:29 Caroline Kennedy 01:08:40 Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis 01:09:00 Ted Kennedy - 3rd & 8th Houses Exchange Signs 01:12:48 Maurizio Gucci - 2nd & 4th Houses Exchange Signs 01:16:45 Carrie Fisher - Bonification Enhanced by Reception 01:22:52 Robin Williams - Bonification and Reception 01:29:14 Aretha Franklin - Reception Mitigating Difficulties 01:36:35 Reception with Benefic Ruler of the 8th House 01:42:24 Marilyn Manson 01:45:10 Dr. Dre - Bonification with Reception 01:51:27 Queen Elizabeth II - Maltreatment Mitigated 01:56:57 Kurt Cobain - Bonification with Reception 02:05:28 Concluding Remarks
15:15 "Host can only support guest if it can see them." It seems like a sensibly concise description of how this configuration can work. So much about coherence in communication relies on subtleties of context. Thanks for sharing your insights, Chris!
I always love your solo shows! (And all of your podcasts) I really appreciate the deep dive into reception. Been tangling with this one for some years now!
You are both a brilliant and ingenious astrology teacher! And even though I am very visual learner sometimes only just by listening I grasp what you are talking about. I am impressed! Thank you sooooooo much!
Sometimes The Stars say, No. However, rest assured that this is sometimes an extremely good thing. Like when a parent says no to a child. Conversely, when a child always gets their way with a parent and ends up being a horrible person. There are so many levels to this shit, it's unreal. AWESOME Episode! Thank you, Chris!
My chart has sun in Capricorn (12th house) square mars in libra (9th house) and Saturn in Aries (3rd house). Thinking about it objectively is intimidating but I feel like it gives me more energy than I would’ve had otherwise, with sun in the 12th house.
OMG this episode gave me so much hope and insight about my own chart. I'm an Aries rising with Mars in Aquarius 11th house applying to a square within 3 degrees with Saturn rx in Taurus in the 2nd, then reception happens again because Venus rules Taurus and it's applying within 9 degrees to an opposition with Saturn, and of course that means that Venus is in her exile but has reception beacuse also applies to a square within 6 degrees with Mars, domicile Lord of Venus' sign! This T-square always intrigued me so much over the course of the past years, and I did noticed at some point that the planets had reception but never went to search about it, didn't know it was that relevant! Thank you!
Yah thanks! Been looking forward to a new episode and this is a topic I’m particularly interested in as I have a Venus Saturn square in mutual reception. Venus in Aquarius and Saturn in Taurus
Omg me too! And they are within a 5 degree orb being Venus at 7 degrees Aqua and Saturn is in Taurus at 11 degrees. So not that tight but still it’s pretty close!
Woah, now my chart makes so much more sense! I was wondering why my Saturn conjunct my Sun in Sagittarius in a night chart has never felt like as much of a downer as everyone says it should. Mutual reception to Jupiter in Aquarius by sign. And I've got Mars in Libra and Venus in Scorpio. Lower levels of reception, but I'll take it! Thanks Chris :)
I’m so in love with the complexity of this technique and it’s so insightful. This year I’m in my 11th house profection . Sagittarius is there and I am having a Jupiter return . Saturn and Uranus are being aspected by Jupiter in Aries nataly and will also aspect these planets in transit hopefully during this profection yr… watching heavily this yr .
Thank you for this lecture it is greatly appreciated. I’m coupling it with my studies through your class which is proving to be greatly beneficial. Mitigating factors give me ease of mind because sometimes reading charts depresses me. While I know some things really are sad or bad from my perspective, I’m trying to train my mind to not jump to negative assumptions when looking at a chart. I’m constantly telling myself there are mitigating factors and it isn’t wise for me to make assumptions be they positive or negative about what I’m seeing. Since charts like people are complicated I greatly appreciate your lectures making things less complicated. - Renata Nicole
Wow, what a great episode, packed full of helpful information. There’s way too much in it to absorb in just one viewing. I’ll be referring back to it multiple times, particularly while I study that section in your book
Wow. Game changing indeed. My most malefic (Mars) and most benethic (Jupiter) have a mutual reception with an almost exact trine. So now Mercury is promoted to my most malefic planet, being besieged Saturn and Mars in Pisces. But thank you for this !
I believe Mercury is actually besieging Mars. Saturn is hurting Mars and Mercury but Mars is hurting Saturn as well. Mercury is giving it's power to Saturn and helping Saturn put in exchange for its own life.
Thank you so much Chris. I have watched your two previous videos on Sect and on Reception and understood but didn't quite get to the point where I could apply it in my chart. Viewing this has enabled it to sink in. It's extra challenging with benefic & malefic conjunction in malefic's home and with 2nd malefic opposition to that original benefic. (essentially Jup + Sat with mars opp Jup. It's been a difficult one to untangle but now I see Jupiter is being hammered by the two malefics (thank goodness Pluto trine is there to come to the rescue)....Many blessings Chris. Vx
I have the ruler of my ascendant, Mercury, in a sign based trine to its domicile lord ( Jupiter in a day chart) and I’m thick as a brick. So dumb I’ll need to watch this fantastic video 3 or 4 times to catch all this great info :D
Wow l just noticed Robin Williams has a kite pattern. There’s an element of fate or destiny in his life. You did a show about aspect patterns with Carole Taylor. I may have to go rewatch!
This is good news for me!! I thought I was in trouble with my Sun being in the 6th house and in a square to its sign's ruler Saturn. But then I found out rather recently that my Sun is in a good degree and also its own decan, as well as in a trine with MC. Now I found out that the square to its sign ruler is actually a good thing - yay!! :) Thank you Chris, this was very interesting (besides being good news for me).
Omg this video it s so precious....thank you so much is the first video after years following astrology that explain so well things that I wasn’t sure amazing thank you again for your work super valuable this one
Hi Chris, quick question if u wouldn't mind(though it's a bit off topic) do you consider out of sign conjunctions valid? If so, what orb do you use? Thanks!
Awesome video. Thank you Chris! The chart examples were super helpful. Question: in Kurt Cobain’s chart you mentioned that Saturn maltreats Venus. Is your comment based on the degree of the two planets? Thanks again💜🙏
Would Mutual Reception have the same effect in your experience ? I know it’s said to have a mitigating effect and both planets are benefited...but I’m curious about your experience.
Revisited this episode again. Figured I’d comment to say I will be buying your book very soon now that an angle is beginning to form. I was bouncing between this episode and one on the origins of detriment which interestingly goes into my own natal where spirit is ruled by mars in detriment. I was curious on how I’d piece more modern psychological/personality into a Hellenistic view. People who’ve known me most of my life guess the ascendant as scorpio, virgo with Saturn 1st explains that well. No one guesses Leo sun, it’s in 12th. Satisfying answer. They think I’m libra, going Hellenistic had that issue, but maybe using ruler of spirit is a good angle by personality and/or psychological. Interestingly, it isn’t a mars libra type, it’s a Venus type. I know using zodiacal release as a lens is very accurate, personality/psychological development through that lens focused on the ruler configuration may be extremely accurate. Mentioned in a prior comment on the cancer episode.. I’ll allude to it sometimes sarcastically, but there’s a Jungian book on psychological archetypes in relation to ____, it’s turning out useful in terms of looking at Uranus as Prometheus, Neptune as Dionysus that fits what Richard Tarnas described in the Pluto episode related to psychedelic therapy. If I practiced astrology, there’d definitely be a Pluto tone, this is a good example. One thing described that would apply to uranus would be the underneath motivations of its chaotic rebellion which would interact with Saturn, not Jupiter (Zeus) by myth. In the selected version of the myth Prometheus stole fire out of necessity and Necessity (fated) while also holding excessive pride who’s goal was to get caught to test/break down its pride as a martyr complex. Neptune (Dionysus) is similar, they create a somewhat victim mentality through either rebellion in excessive pride, or submission through delusions. Think of conspiracy theories and even tendencies in religion who paint the believer as a victim. Uranus is unappreciative of greatness, Neptune somewhat opposite. Neptune having similarities with Venus in terms of arts and fantasy, there’s an interesting gateway into kind of evolutionary astrology. That “higher octave” starts coming into play. The point of the book by the Jungian analyst was having streams of patients with sexual fantasies that seemed masochistic to the patient which were actually normal behaviors based on the social tip in balance with masculine attitudes over the feminine. This was before the popularity of 50 shades of… which is why the friend made me read the book (knowing Jung was the loop hole), she had to read 50 shades for work. I just said it was too literal of symbolism as a protagonist in bondage with her superficiality and materialism: “I’m not reading that garbage”. Well.. I found the Jungian book fascinating and it may tie into astrology, it just may need a broader interpretation. Mars/Venus/Pluto in conjunction (etc..); I’ll admit just sticking with that angle is tempting. Neptune/Dionysus os what you know, conspiracy theories and religion have a chewy center of truth underneath most of its shell. The outside shell is sugary victimhood. There was a recent study that found people addicted to conspiracy theories have massive dopamine releases when exposed to them, it may actually fall into addiction. The outer planets may have a different significance, Tarnas may be absolutely right with their transformative potentials. My point is: as time goes on I may end up with multiple interpretation layers. I’ll definitely pick up your book in the near future to patch up some holes in astrological understanding soon. Side note: mars rules my 3rd, I had an abusive childhood caused by my brother who’s someone I don’t like and disowned maybe 5 years ago. Zodiacal release, even though I’d say mars isn’t that bad even though it’s in detriment, the releases of spirit in aries and taurus with mars related issues stemmed from “sibling”. My brother was rebellious (uranus in 3rd) which resulted in myself being severely punished because he’d run away escaping punishment. Hellenistic works great in that way. Psychologically, it’d show up by spirit release aspects. Interesting.
I’m actually glad I decided to go ahead and check this episode out because.. whenever anyone who is knowledgeable of astrology looks at my natal they always go right towards mars in libra (day chart) all freaked out and concerned where I think it’s funny because it’s one of my favorite placements. Getting into these shows I’ve very quietly to myself wondered why I don’t think it’s that bad while viewing it as a great potential seeing Saturn as more malefic. Attention usually goes to moon in Aquarius as a “relief” but moon in Aquarius may be why I feel like Saturn is slightly more malefic while not exactly viewing it THAT malefic. I just need to fine tune my view on houses because my Saturn return was very much a 12th where it’s in the 1st in whole sign. It’ll give me something to check out further over the weekend which I’ve done, but not something I really cared about. I did wonder if Pluto had a positive impact which it may, but Venus conjunct fairly tight would explain quite a bit. Separating, I think. 2 degrees. I’m surprised many argue Pluto doesn’t equal wealth when the “wealth” relates to that intense focus where it’s about depth more so than finances or could equal both. If mars is active I’m more likely to introspect on that mars than act which gives depth which is where I think the positive potential is. I’m going to give this episode a song with an explanation related to celebrity charts you mentioned ESPECIALLY with one you didn’t want to dive into where there’s one side of it younger people don’t know. Marilyn Manson.. so, in late 80’s and very early 90’s there was a large underground music scene with one band (skinny puppy) had a massive underground following where there was a bidding war to sign to a large label. It was between interscope and American (Rick Ruben) where Rubin won by promising creative freedom and Rubin fired their 4th member (their producer) then forced them to live in a studio together where said 4th member was mostly there because they couldn’t work together creatively. They quickly split up and one member intentionally OD’ed being barraged by insults by the label. Reznor of NIN added their producer to his label roster to help Manson mimic skinny puppy while he took their image which turned much of the underground scene against Manson and Reznor which later impacted both especially when Manson ripped off David Bowie making Manson an obscure has been also severely damaging NIN’s fanbase. Reznor later described Manson as the most malefic human being that had no bottom to how low he’d go exploiting others even artistically.. The song? Ohgr - cracker. It’s specifically a dis track to Manson for stealing his image, Reznor for ruining the punk/industrial scene and Dr Dre (mostly with Eminem) for taking rap and making it into commercial music teaching misogyny along with racist tropes that seem to come out of a kkk recruitment pamphlet where black Americans actually stopped listening to it where it only appealed to white suburban kids. Very uplifting.. the song is funny though. That may help if you ever look at Marilyn Manson’s chart AWAY from all recent allegations where there is a consistent pattern of stealing either self image and music image from others then taking it, turning it, into a malefic where he exploited those who actually helped his career where no one likes him. I think Kanye West is the only person who defends his actions. Horrible human being and it’s out in the open. Better note, I started wondering for an unknown reason if the “invisible” houses are related to dimensional space which better explains (to me) why the native may not “see” houses as they may not be houses available to the senses which, in context, makes sense with some of what’s said about the 12th. That it was only about “foreign lands” more recently similar to the 9th when it’s actually hidden realms or spiritual realms. Whole sign houses in that context makes sense because the signs in those houses would be hidden. So overlap would be awkward. Enjoyed this episode.
When you speak about which planet is overcoming due to being in an “earlier” sign, which sign is considered earlier? Is Aries is always the earliest and Pisces always the last? In one example you showed a planet in Pisces being superior to a planet in Cancer. Wondered why...
The signs don’t go backwards, it’s a cycle, so Pisces is before Aires, so on and so forth. Don’t think of it as a line, but instead a circle without end or begging for the purpose of sign order
Sometimes family members or friends do great harm to each other though. Maybe that’s when planets are in each other’s fall. I am only 35 min into the video, hope you talk about this. And also when there is mutual reception but with one planet being in the domicile sign and the other in its fall. I have this with my Moon in Libra square my Venus in Capricorn.
Hi Chris, I am a listener from Italy. I wish I could share your content with friends who are astrology enthusiasts as I am, but they can't understand English well enough to follow you -and your hosts - through a full episode. I wish I could subtitle your videos... would you let me, please?
This is amazing, thank you! I'm a bit confused though when it comes to my jupiter/mars, I have pisces rising and jupiter in the 7th at 9 degrees retrograde the mars at 14 degrees in 7th. So, would that mean jupiter over takes mars, or no because jupiter is retrograde? I appreciate all you your work!
Thank you; wildly informative (as per usual). It’s for me throwing all of my chart examples in whole house and leaving out outer planets! Do modern astrologers use an outer planet based reception?
I've got to the point where I think something like Saturn in Cancer opposite Moon in Capricorn actually works out better than Saturn in Capricorn opposite Moon in Cancer.
Chris! Question for you - does a planet being Out of Bounds (declination beyond 23° N or S )ever factor into dignity, or anything else in traditional astrology? Thank you so much! Excellent video, thank you making this topic so much easier to understand.
Love this! Also the thing with Ted Kennedy and his third house of like siblings, yes, but also driving and traffic... the chappaquiddick incident seems foretold, as well.
General question to the audience: What are your experiences applying this technique when using other house systems? How has it compared for you using reception in the same chart trying whole house and (for example,) Placidus? Im curious if it's one of those things where it seems to give you different layers of information or if it only seems to make sense in whole house? Thanks anyone who takes the time to reply
It’s sometimes do difficult but I try and blow it off like he has pms because I have “that” temper 😂 I go straight into nature when he’s a beast master of his universe and that’s most of the time lol
Hey Chris, do you have any episodes about predictive astrology delineations? Any recommended reading or references? I find it's relatively easy to find information and come up with more modern style delineations, ones that are about personality as oposed to more external or predictive stuff.
If there is an opposition but with reception then it would be mitigated, so it would be a softer or more manageable opposition than it might be otherwise.
@@TheAstrologyPodcast Thank you! To elaborate, is there a difference in mitigating power between the different aspect patterns? For example, is a square’s mitigating power greater than an opposition’s? Since the planets are on opposite sides of the chart, does the invisibility of the host to the guest have an influence? Moreover, is the mitigating power of a sextile or trine significantly greater than that of a square? Interested to know your thoughts and appreciate the feedback.
@@michaelhanna4540 It just softens whatever aspect there is between the planets, and makes the relationship between them more favorable. So an opposition becomes a softer opposition, almost more like a square. A square becomes a softer square, almost more like a conjunction (although maybe not quite that far). The easy aspects become more favorable, so that a trine becomes like a super trine, or a sextile becomes almost like a trine. Etc.
A long but informative video. Nice. But let me ask: is there a sort of mutual reception between planetary joys (e.g. Mars in the 11th house and Jupiter in the 6th)?
I also have Venus in Aquarius nataly and Uranus transiting Taurus squaring each other now but Uranus sextile my moon 🌚 I feel so blessed and supported by the universe rn
Hi Chris! Great podcast. I’m relearning/refreshing my knowledge of Hellenistic astrology, using my own chart. I’ve read your book and I was wondering if, in my day chart, Venus in Aries as the exaltation, Triplicity, and bound lord of my Sun in Pisces, helps my Sun because the Sun’s exalted in Aries, even though my Venus is in detriment. Do exaltation lords confer any type of reception, like domicile lords? I guess that’s what my question boils down to. Thanks! Love your book!
Hi Chris, thank you so much, I love your podcasts! I was wondering how reception is interpreted when a planet is ruled by the Sun but under its beams or combust? (Like Leo Sun and Mercury - happens quite often).
My sister has Mercury in Gemini in 12th, ruling her 3rd, AND overcome by mars in pisces in 9th. Yay me. If Jupiter is in the middle in 11th house Taurus, does that mean Mercury is still overcome? Or just jupiter. And can planets in different quadrants be overcome? All examples seem to be the upper quadrants, so I was wondering if mars in 2nd house would overcome say jupiter in 3rd? I've got your book Chris, and have read over and over but can't seem to get it straight in my head. Absolutely love it... so fascinating!! I really recommend everyone buy!!!
Thank you, Chris, I will sleep well tonight knowing that my Moon in Aquarius (8th house of death) is in mutual reception with my combust Saturn in Cancer (my first house) in a day chart. 🤔 Very disturbing...
When u have a night chart and saturn does not have reception. I am absolutely terrified by this planet. It's in my 4th house and I have had close family members pass during the profection year. Probably worst year of my life.
I got lost when you said that venus in Pisces overcomes Mercury in Cancer (53:54). Isn't the "earlier" planet (following the order of the signs starting from Aries) the one who overcomes the "later" one? If so, I'd say that Mercury is overcoming Venus and not the other way around.
The easiest way to visualize an overcoming aspect is to set the faster moving planet's sign as the ascendant. If the slower planet is above the horizon, it's overcoming. If the slower moving planet is below the horizon, then the faster planet is overcoming. So if you have, for example, Moon in Gemini trine Mercury in Libra, the moon would be overcoming in this instance, because Mercury would be below the horizon.
@@cattnat Thanks for the explanation. Now I see why in the video example Venus overcomes Mercury even being in Pisces whilst Mercury in Cancer. Will definitely research about this concept cause I wasn't familiar with it.-
Such an in depth podcast wow 🤩 I am unsure if my chart is day or night. I have Venus in 6th born June 22 at 21:33 so it’s just shy of a night chart. Is it considered the day chart? I should say northern hemisphere too.
Re the aretha Franklin example, what would happen if Venus (most positive planet) had been conjunct Saturn (most negative) in the 7th house. Do they cancel each other out as a conjunction?
@theastrologypodcast Im just getting into this, so maybe you will talk about debilitating reception? when they are in each others signs in detriment (especially for me on the angles retrograde) and my Venus in taurus in 9th while my 2nd house in Libra (I don't know what type of reception that is) or just rulership. I know Alexander Bell had Jupiter/Mercury like me and he was a HUGE PERSON like me lol but he solved the hearing and invented the phone. Further, in a chart demo @nightlightastrology stated that when there is mutual debilitated reception retrograde, you may have to give up something. Jupiter is the ruler of my 4th & 7th ( My dad is a university lecturer lol and my whole family is minimum Masters degree) will I have to give up on a relationship to become the visionary philanthropist I am?
Bummer.....I thought MAYBE having Pluto in Leo in my 2nd house in opposition to my Sun in Aquarius in the 8th could mean I could win a big lottery in my lifetime. Now it looks like I only narrowly avoid bankruptcy ! Unless I am missing something 😕.
If Saturn in a night chart is retrograde, would that maybe make his "no" less firm? And if he is always squaring the 10th from the first and the ruler of the 10th is in the fourth but out of orb from any degree aspect with Saturn...does that mean career is a big red stop sign?
What if Jupiter in Capricorn 6th house was overcoming Saturn in Aries 9th house by a square in a night chart? As saturns the most malefic and in fall would Jupiter overcoming Saturn reduce the malefic effects of Saturn? Or because Jupiter is also in fall would the overcoming be cancelled out?
I am a little lost at 54:16 , the overcoming of superior planets based on sign. How to determine that? I thought Jupiter is overcoming Mercury because Jupiter is in Aries and Aries is the first therefore earlier than cancer. But with the Venus example in Pisces is also overcoming ? Isn’t Pisces the last sign in zodiacal order , therefore cancer precedes it? 😂 I am lost , otherwise thank you for this wealth of knowledge
I’m curious if two planets are harmonious by sign but inharmonious by degree which reception is more important. For example, if the moon is in the 1st house and Mars is in third, they’re sextile by sign but Mars happens to be at 29 degrees of Gemini and the Moon is at 3 degrees Aries, so square by degree.
If a person had a first house sun in Capricorn, and the ruler Saturn is in Aquarius which would fall in the second house - unseen in whole sign house system, would this be a mitigating factor since Saturn is the ruler of both signs?
I’m a Scorpio rising with Mars in sag and in the 2nd. I also have Jupiter in Aires in the 6th. I also have the caves that Saturn is in the 2nd , also with Neptune. What would this mean?
What is extra helpful in taking this in is all of the graphics. I am a big visual learner and all of the images are much appreciated!
So am I without it @Chris Brennan I would not understand at all. Thanks so much.
0:44 Reception as a Mitigating Condition
2:57 Definition of Reception
3:29 Signs of the Zodiac as Homes
6:15 Ideal Planets for Each Sign
7:51 Firmicus Maternus on the Signs as Home
10:23 Basic Gist of Reception
12:17 Aspects and Aversion
16:06 Earliest Reference to Reception
17:53 Textual Origins of Reception
22:11 Two Different Levels of Reception
26:10 Mutual Reception and Exchanging Signs
31:50 Reception as Familiarity
35:23 Reception as Hospitality
37:27 Quotes on Reception as a Mitigating Factor
44:53 Prerequisites to Understanding Reception Examples (Sect, Overcoming, Bonification/Maltreatment
57:38 Example - Maltreatment without Reception
01:02:17 Che Guevara
01:05:00 Maltreatment by Mars without Reception
01:08:29 Caroline Kennedy
01:08:40 Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
01:09:00 Ted Kennedy - 3rd & 8th Houses Exchange Signs
01:12:48 Maurizio Gucci - 2nd & 4th Houses Exchange Signs
01:16:45 Carrie Fisher - Bonification Enhanced by Reception
01:22:52 Robin Williams - Bonification and Reception
01:29:14 Aretha Franklin - Reception Mitigating Difficulties
01:36:35 Reception with Benefic Ruler of the 8th House
01:42:24 Marilyn Manson
01:45:10 Dr. Dre - Bonification with Reception
01:51:27 Queen Elizabeth II - Maltreatment Mitigated
01:56:57 Kurt Cobain - Bonification with Reception
02:05:28 Concluding Remarks
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15:15 "Host can only support guest if it can see them." It seems like a sensibly concise description of how this configuration can work. So much about coherence in communication relies on subtleties of context. Thanks for sharing your insights, Chris!
I always love your solo shows! (And all of your podcasts)
I really appreciate the deep dive into reception. Been tangling with this one for some years now!
You are both a brilliant and ingenious astrology teacher! And even though I am very visual learner sometimes only just by listening I grasp what you are talking about. I am impressed! Thank you sooooooo much!
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Absolutely love your utube channel. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge. We are blessed!
Sometimes The Stars say, No. However, rest assured that this is sometimes an extremely good thing. Like when a parent says no to a child. Conversely, when a child always gets their way with a parent and ends up being a horrible person. There are so many levels to this shit, it's unreal. AWESOME Episode! Thank you, Chris!
A highly informative and clear message in the use and conceptual grounding of reception.
Thank you, Chris, for your continued service.
x HC
My chart has sun in Capricorn (12th house) square mars in libra (9th house) and Saturn in Aries (3rd house). Thinking about it objectively is intimidating but I feel like it gives me more energy than I would’ve had otherwise, with sun in the 12th house.
OMG this episode gave me so much hope and insight about my own chart. I'm an Aries rising with Mars in Aquarius 11th house applying to a square within 3 degrees with Saturn rx in Taurus in the 2nd, then reception happens again because Venus rules Taurus and it's applying within 9 degrees to an opposition with Saturn, and of course that means that Venus is in her exile but has reception beacuse also applies to a square within 6 degrees with Mars, domicile Lord of Venus' sign! This T-square always intrigued me so much over the course of the past years, and I did noticed at some point that the planets had reception but never went to search about it, didn't know it was that relevant! Thank you!
Thank you Chris for this amazing and valued presentation. You are an incredible and aspirational teacher. 🙏🏻
Yah thanks! Been looking forward to a new episode and this is a topic I’m particularly interested in as I have a Venus Saturn square in mutual reception. Venus in Aquarius and Saturn in Taurus
Omg me too! And they are within a 5 degree orb being Venus at 7 degrees Aqua and Saturn is in Taurus at 11 degrees. So not that tight but still it’s pretty close!
Woah, now my chart makes so much more sense! I was wondering why my Saturn conjunct my Sun in Sagittarius in a night chart has never felt like as much of a downer as everyone says it should. Mutual reception to Jupiter in Aquarius by sign. And I've got Mars in Libra and Venus in Scorpio. Lower levels of reception, but I'll take it! Thanks Chris :)
Thanks for this, Chris. I was just learning about this in your Hellenistic course so it's synchronistic you just posted about this on youtube.
I’m so in love with the complexity of this technique and it’s so insightful. This year I’m in my 11th house profection . Sagittarius is there and I am having a Jupiter return . Saturn and Uranus are being aspected by Jupiter in Aries nataly and will also aspect these planets in transit hopefully during this profection yr… watching heavily this yr .
Thank you for this lecture it is greatly appreciated. I’m coupling it with my studies through your class which is proving to be greatly beneficial. Mitigating factors give me ease of mind because sometimes reading charts depresses me. While I know some things really are sad or bad from my perspective, I’m trying to train my mind to not jump to negative assumptions when looking at a chart. I’m constantly telling myself there are mitigating factors and it isn’t wise for me to make assumptions be they positive or negative about what I’m seeing. Since charts like people are complicated I greatly appreciate your lectures making things less complicated. - Renata Nicole
Wow, what a great episode, packed full of helpful information. There’s way too much in it to absorb in just one viewing. I’ll be referring back to it multiple times, particularly while I study that section in your book
My mind is blown! Thank you so much for this episode! ❤
Très bonne leçon sur les réceptions et nombreux exemples. Super intéressant. Merci.
"The 12th is one of the worst houses". It hurts to hear that
Wow. Game changing indeed. My most malefic (Mars) and most benethic (Jupiter) have a mutual reception with an almost exact trine. So now Mercury is promoted to my most malefic planet, being besieged Saturn and Mars in Pisces. But thank you for this !
I believe Mercury is actually besieging Mars. Saturn is hurting Mars and Mercury but Mars is hurting Saturn as well. Mercury is giving it's power to Saturn and helping Saturn put in exchange for its own life.
Thank you so much Chris. I have watched your two previous videos on Sect and on Reception and understood but didn't quite get to the point where I could apply it in my chart. Viewing this has enabled it to sink in. It's extra challenging with benefic & malefic conjunction in malefic's home and with 2nd malefic opposition to that original benefic. (essentially Jup + Sat with mars opp Jup. It's been a difficult one to untangle but now I see Jupiter is being hammered by the two malefics (thank goodness Pluto trine is there to come to the rescue)....Many blessings Chris. Vx
As usual Chris, very succinct, always clearly stated and very well put. Thank you. Stay safe :)
Thank you for sharing your profound knowledge. I follow you for many years and have learned a lot!
I have the ruler of my ascendant, Mercury, in a sign based trine to its domicile lord ( Jupiter in a day chart) and I’m thick as a brick. So dumb I’ll need to watch this fantastic video 3 or 4 times to catch all this great info :D
Wow l just noticed Robin Williams has a kite pattern. There’s an element of fate or destiny in his life. You did a show about aspect patterns with Carole Taylor. I may have to go rewatch!
I know Carole probably wouldn't count this kite since one point of the triangle is the ascendant, and she uses only planets. :)
Hey Chris. Thanks for these great videos. Would you consider to make an episode on Cazimi/Combust please?
This is great - thanks, Chris!
This is good news for me!! I thought I was in trouble with my Sun being in the 6th house and in a square to its sign's ruler Saturn. But then I found out rather recently that my Sun is in a good degree and also its own decan, as well as in a trine with MC. Now I found out that the square to its sign ruler is actually a good thing - yay!! :) Thank you Chris, this was very interesting (besides being good news for me).
Omg this video it s so precious....thank you so much is the first video after years following astrology that explain so well things that I wasn’t sure amazing thank you again for your work super valuable this one
Loved this! I started listening on Spotify but really needed the graphics to understand so I came here. :)
Hi Chris, quick question if u wouldn't mind(though it's a bit off topic) do you consider out of sign conjunctions valid? If so, what orb do you use? Thanks!
He uses 3 degree orb out of sigb
I really love your solo lectures
I love this podcast, but my gpa doesn't lmao. I'm a listen to this instead of studying for french🤪
Try turning the subtitles on in French, then you can do both at the same time 😂
Awesome video. Thank you Chris! The chart examples were super helpful. Question: in Kurt Cobain’s chart you mentioned that Saturn maltreats Venus. Is your comment based on the degree of the two planets? Thanks again💜🙏
Yes, it is applying conjunction within 3 degrees or adherence. Man I know his natal chart almost by heart ; )
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Would Mutual Reception have the same effect in your experience ? I know it’s said to have a mitigating effect and both planets are benefited...but I’m curious about your experience.
This was really great, thank you for explaining everything so well.
Great episode. Nice examples on both ends of the spectrum.
Revisited this episode again. Figured I’d comment to say I will be buying your book very soon now that an angle is beginning to form.
I was bouncing between this episode and one on the origins of detriment which interestingly goes into my own natal where spirit is ruled by mars in detriment. I was curious on how I’d piece more modern psychological/personality into a Hellenistic view. People who’ve known me most of my life guess the ascendant as scorpio, virgo with Saturn 1st explains that well. No one guesses Leo sun, it’s in 12th. Satisfying answer. They think I’m libra, going Hellenistic had that issue, but maybe using ruler of spirit is a good angle by personality and/or psychological. Interestingly, it isn’t a mars libra type, it’s a Venus type. I know using zodiacal release as a lens is very accurate, personality/psychological development through that lens focused on the ruler configuration may be extremely accurate.
Mentioned in a prior comment on the cancer episode.. I’ll allude to it sometimes sarcastically, but there’s a Jungian book on psychological archetypes in relation to ____, it’s turning out useful in terms of looking at Uranus as Prometheus, Neptune as Dionysus that fits what Richard Tarnas described in the Pluto episode related to psychedelic therapy. If I practiced astrology, there’d definitely be a Pluto tone, this is a good example. One thing described that would apply to uranus would be the underneath motivations of its chaotic rebellion which would interact with Saturn, not Jupiter (Zeus) by myth. In the selected version of the myth Prometheus stole fire out of necessity and Necessity (fated) while also holding excessive pride who’s goal was to get caught to test/break down its pride as a martyr complex. Neptune (Dionysus) is similar, they create a somewhat victim mentality through either rebellion in excessive pride, or submission through delusions. Think of conspiracy theories and even tendencies in religion who paint the believer as a victim. Uranus is unappreciative of greatness, Neptune somewhat opposite. Neptune having similarities with Venus in terms of arts and fantasy, there’s an interesting gateway into kind of evolutionary astrology. That “higher octave” starts coming into play. The point of the book by the Jungian analyst was having streams of patients with sexual fantasies that seemed masochistic to the patient which were actually normal behaviors based on the social tip in balance with masculine attitudes over the feminine. This was before the popularity of 50 shades of… which is why the friend made me read the book (knowing Jung was the loop hole), she had to read 50 shades for work. I just said it was too literal of symbolism as a protagonist in bondage with her superficiality and materialism: “I’m not reading that garbage”. Well.. I found the Jungian book fascinating and it may tie into astrology, it just may need a broader interpretation. Mars/Venus/Pluto in conjunction (etc..); I’ll admit just sticking with that angle is tempting. Neptune/Dionysus os what you know, conspiracy theories and religion have a chewy center of truth underneath most of its shell. The outside shell is sugary victimhood. There was a recent study that found people addicted to conspiracy theories have massive dopamine releases when exposed to them, it may actually fall into addiction. The outer planets may have a different significance, Tarnas may be absolutely right with their transformative potentials.
My point is: as time goes on I may end up with multiple interpretation layers. I’ll definitely pick up your book in the near future to patch up some holes in astrological understanding soon.
Side note: mars rules my 3rd, I had an abusive childhood caused by my brother who’s someone I don’t like and disowned maybe 5 years ago. Zodiacal release, even though I’d say mars isn’t that bad even though it’s in detriment, the releases of spirit in aries and taurus with mars related issues stemmed from “sibling”. My brother was rebellious (uranus in 3rd) which resulted in myself being severely punished because he’d run away escaping punishment. Hellenistic works great in that way. Psychologically, it’d show up by spirit release aspects. Interesting.
I’m actually glad I decided to go ahead and check this episode out because.. whenever anyone who is knowledgeable of astrology looks at my natal they always go right towards mars in libra (day chart) all freaked out and concerned where I think it’s funny because it’s one of my favorite placements. Getting into these shows I’ve very quietly to myself wondered why I don’t think it’s that bad while viewing it as a great potential seeing Saturn as more malefic. Attention usually goes to moon in Aquarius as a “relief” but moon in Aquarius may be why I feel like Saturn is slightly more malefic while not exactly viewing it THAT malefic. I just need to fine tune my view on houses because my Saturn return was very much a 12th where it’s in the 1st in whole sign.
It’ll give me something to check out further over the weekend which I’ve done, but not something I really cared about. I did wonder if Pluto had a positive impact which it may, but Venus conjunct fairly tight would explain quite a bit. Separating, I think. 2 degrees.
I’m surprised many argue Pluto doesn’t equal wealth when the “wealth” relates to that intense focus where it’s about depth more so than finances or could equal both. If mars is active I’m more likely to introspect on that mars than act which gives depth which is where I think the positive potential is.
I’m going to give this episode a song with an explanation related to celebrity charts you mentioned ESPECIALLY with one you didn’t want to dive into where there’s one side of it younger people don’t know.
Marilyn Manson.. so, in late 80’s and very early 90’s there was a large underground music scene with one band (skinny puppy) had a massive underground following where there was a bidding war to sign to a large label. It was between interscope and American (Rick Ruben) where Rubin won by promising creative freedom and Rubin fired their 4th member (their producer) then forced them to live in a studio together where said 4th member was mostly there because they couldn’t work together creatively. They quickly split up and one member intentionally OD’ed being barraged by insults by the label. Reznor of NIN added their producer to his label roster to help Manson mimic skinny puppy while he took their image which turned much of the underground scene against Manson and Reznor which later impacted both especially when Manson ripped off David Bowie making Manson an obscure has been also severely damaging NIN’s fanbase. Reznor later described Manson as the most malefic human being that had no bottom to how low he’d go exploiting others even artistically..
The song? Ohgr - cracker. It’s specifically a dis track to Manson for stealing his image, Reznor for ruining the punk/industrial scene and Dr Dre (mostly with Eminem) for taking rap and making it into commercial music teaching misogyny along with racist tropes that seem to come out of a kkk recruitment pamphlet where black Americans actually stopped listening to it where it only appealed to white suburban kids.
Very uplifting.. the song is funny though.
That may help if you ever look at Marilyn Manson’s chart AWAY from all recent allegations where there is a consistent pattern of stealing either self image and music image from others then taking it, turning it, into a malefic where he exploited those who actually helped his career where no one likes him. I think Kanye West is the only person who defends his actions. Horrible human being and it’s out in the open.
Better note, I started wondering for an unknown reason if the “invisible” houses are related to dimensional space which better explains (to me) why the native may not “see” houses as they may not be houses available to the senses which, in context, makes sense with some of what’s said about the 12th. That it was only about “foreign lands” more recently similar to the 9th when it’s actually hidden realms or spiritual realms. Whole sign houses in that context makes sense because the signs in those houses would be hidden. So overlap would be awkward.
Enjoyed this episode.
Thank you Chris, I so enjoy all of your videos!
Thank you for everything you do, Chris. Always. You are such an inspiration!
When you speak about which planet is overcoming due to being in an “earlier” sign, which sign is considered earlier? Is Aries is always the earliest and Pisces always the last? In one example you showed a planet in Pisces being superior to a planet in Cancer. Wondered why...
Same question here. Anyone else know?
The signs don’t go backwards, it’s a cycle, so Pisces is before Aires, so on and so forth. Don’t think of it as a line, but instead a circle without end or begging for the purpose of sign order
Was wondering the same thing! Do we start counting signs at the AC? Or the Mc? Or Aries is the first in traditional
House rulership?
Sometimes family members or friends do great harm to each other though. Maybe that’s when planets are in each other’s fall. I am only 35 min into the video, hope you talk about this. And also when there is mutual reception but with one planet being in the domicile sign and the other in its fall. I have this with my Moon in Libra square my Venus in Capricorn.
Great lecture Chris! I really enjoyed this and learned something new and helpful. Thank you! I hope to take your astrology course this year.
Excellent! More of this kind please!
Thanks for this tutorial.That Honeycomb collective almanac report calculates mitigating factors on their "chart analysis" page doesn't it?
It does, i've found it very useful & helpful in learning mitigation with how they lay it out
Hi Oshr,
I hope you and your family are well.
Hi Chris, I am a listener from Italy. I wish I could share your content with friends who are astrology enthusiasts as I am, but they can't understand English well enough to follow you -and your hosts - through a full episode. I wish I could subtitle your videos... would you let me, please?
My chart includes a great deal of mutual reception in houses averse to the ascendancy. We shall see what happens.
This is amazing, thank you! I'm a bit confused though when it comes to my jupiter/mars, I have pisces rising and jupiter in the 7th at 9 degrees retrograde the mars at 14 degrees in 7th. So, would that mean jupiter over takes mars, or no because jupiter is retrograde? I appreciate all you your work!
jupiter is separating aspect from mars.
Thank you; wildly informative (as per usual). It’s for me throwing all of my chart examples in whole house and leaving out outer planets! Do modern astrologers use an outer planet based reception?
Very helpful material. Thank you!
I've got to the point where I think something like Saturn in Cancer opposite Moon in Capricorn actually works out better than Saturn in Capricorn opposite Moon in Cancer.
Chris! Question for you - does a planet being Out of Bounds (declination beyond 23° N or S )ever factor into dignity, or anything else in traditional astrology? Thank you so much! Excellent video, thank you making this topic so much easier to understand.
1987 Aretha Franklin met her longtime companion. In the secondary progr. Saturn went out of the 7th house in the 8th house.
Love this! Also the thing with Ted Kennedy and his third house of like siblings, yes, but also driving and traffic... the chappaquiddick incident seems foretold, as well.
Thank you, Chris! 🙏
General question to the audience: What are your experiences applying this technique when using other house systems?
How has it compared for you using reception in the same chart trying whole house and (for example,) Placidus?
Im curious if it's one of those things where it seems to give you different layers of information or if it only seems to make sense in whole house?
Thanks anyone who takes the time to reply
Have not even started watching my day has been shit crazy insane my husband is an Aries I’m a Scorpio moon ,Capricorn sun and rising
Crazy! I'm Leo moon Capricorn sun and rising and my boyfriend of 6 years is an Aries sun Libra moon, Taurus rising.
It’s sometimes do difficult but I try and blow it off like he has pms because I have “that” temper 😂 I go straight into nature when he’s a beast master of his universe and that’s most of the time lol
Hey Chris, do you have any episodes about predictive astrology delineations? Any recommended reading or references? I find it's relatively easy to find information and come up with more modern style delineations, ones that are about personality as oposed to more external or predictive stuff.
Really enjoyed this lecture. 🙏🙏
Great lecture! So sign based reception by opposition is not considered a mitigating factor?
If there is an opposition but with reception then it would be mitigated, so it would be a softer or more manageable opposition than it might be otherwise.
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Thank you!
To elaborate, is there a difference in mitigating power between the different aspect patterns?
For example, is a square’s mitigating power greater than an opposition’s? Since the planets are on opposite sides of the chart, does the invisibility of the host to the guest have an influence?
Moreover, is the mitigating power of a sextile or trine significantly greater than that of a square?
Interested to know your thoughts and appreciate the feedback.
@@michaelhanna4540 It just softens whatever aspect there is between the planets, and makes the relationship between them more favorable. So an opposition becomes a softer opposition, almost more like a square. A square becomes a softer square, almost more like a conjunction (although maybe not quite that far). The easy aspects become more favorable, so that a trine becomes like a super trine, or a sextile becomes almost like a trine. Etc.
A long but informative video. Nice.
But let me ask: is there a sort of mutual reception between planetary joys (e.g. Mars in the 11th house and Jupiter in the 6th)?
I also have Venus in Aquarius nataly and Uranus transiting Taurus squaring each other now but Uranus sextile my moon 🌚 I feel so blessed and supported by the universe rn
Really wanting to hear about sole depositor. ❤♎
So many Moons in the 12th and/or chart rulers in the 12th who were murdered...
thank you Chris!
Thank you! It was very helpful!
Hi Chris! Great podcast. I’m relearning/refreshing my knowledge of Hellenistic astrology, using my own chart. I’ve read your book and I was wondering if, in my day chart, Venus in Aries as the exaltation, Triplicity, and bound lord of my Sun in Pisces, helps my Sun because the Sun’s exalted in Aries, even though my Venus is in detriment. Do exaltation lords confer any type of reception, like domicile lords? I guess that’s what my question boils down to. Thanks! Love your book!
This video was so insightful. I was wondering if malefics are in tense aspect and in mutual reception do they still become less malefic?
Hi Chris, thank you so much, I love your podcasts! I was wondering how reception is interpreted when a planet is ruled by the Sun but under its beams or combust? (Like Leo Sun and Mercury - happens quite often).
Here learning
My sister has Mercury in Gemini in 12th, ruling her 3rd, AND overcome by mars in pisces in 9th. Yay me. If Jupiter is in the middle in 11th house Taurus, does that mean Mercury is still overcome? Or just jupiter. And can planets in different quadrants be overcome? All examples seem to be the upper quadrants, so I was wondering if mars in 2nd house would overcome say jupiter in 3rd? I've got your book Chris, and have read over and over but can't seem to get it straight in my head. Absolutely love it... so fascinating!! I really recommend everyone buy!!!
"The Morinus System of House Interpretation", Astrologia Gallica, Book Twenty One, J. B. Morin, Paris 1661.
Thank you, Chris, I will sleep well tonight knowing that my Moon in Aquarius (8th house of death) is in mutual reception with my combust Saturn in Cancer (my first house) in a day chart. 🤔 Very disturbing...
Thank you Chris
When u have a night chart and saturn does not have reception. I am absolutely terrified by this planet. It's in my 4th house and I have had close family members pass during the profection year. Probably worst year of my life.
Oh I’ll have to look out for that. Or go back and research. I have Saturn with no reception in a night chart.
I got lost when you said that venus in Pisces overcomes Mercury in Cancer (53:54). Isn't the "earlier" planet (following the order of the signs starting from Aries) the one who overcomes the "later" one? If so, I'd say that Mercury is overcoming Venus and not the other way around.
The easiest way to visualize an overcoming aspect is to set the faster moving planet's sign as the ascendant. If the slower planet is above the horizon, it's overcoming. If the slower moving planet is below the horizon, then the faster planet is overcoming.
So if you have, for example, Moon in Gemini trine Mercury in Libra, the moon would be overcoming in this instance, because Mercury would be below the horizon.
@@cattnat Thanks for the explanation. Now I see why in the video example Venus overcomes Mercury even being in Pisces whilst Mercury in Cancer. Will definitely research about this concept cause I wasn't familiar with it.-
Hi Chris! Would you consider a semi sextile between Saturn in Capricorn (4 degrees) and Mars (5 degrees) in Aquarius a reception? Thanks!
Is reception a kind of tropical version of D9 Navamsa-chart (takes into account dignity/true influence of the planet)? Thank you so much in advance.
Excellent. Thanks.
Such an in depth podcast wow 🤩
I am unsure if my chart is day or night. I have Venus in 6th born June 22 at 21:33 so it’s just shy of a night chart. Is it considered the day chart? I should say northern hemisphere too.
Re the aretha Franklin example, what would happen if Venus (most positive planet) had been conjunct Saturn (most negative) in the 7th house. Do they cancel each other out as a conjunction?
@theastrologypodcast Im just getting into this, so maybe you will talk about debilitating reception? when they are in each others signs in detriment (especially for me on the angles retrograde) and my Venus in taurus in 9th while my 2nd house in Libra (I don't know what type of reception that is) or just rulership. I know Alexander Bell had Jupiter/Mercury like me and he was a HUGE PERSON like me lol but he solved the hearing and invented the phone. Further, in a chart demo @nightlightastrology stated that when there is mutual debilitated reception retrograde, you may have to give up something. Jupiter is the ruler of my 4th & 7th ( My dad is a university lecturer lol and my whole family is minimum Masters degree) will I have to give up on a relationship to become the visionary philanthropist I am?
Bummer.....I thought MAYBE having Pluto in Leo in my 2nd house in opposition to my Sun in Aquarius in the 8th could mean I could win a big lottery in my lifetime. Now it looks like I only narrowly avoid bankruptcy ! Unless I am missing something 😕.
If Saturn in a night chart is retrograde, would that maybe make his "no" less firm? And if he is always squaring the 10th from the first and the ruler of the 10th is in the fourth but out of orb from any degree aspect with Saturn...does that mean career is a big red stop sign?
What if Jupiter in Capricorn 6th house was overcoming Saturn in Aries 9th house by a square in a night chart?
As saturns the most malefic and in fall would Jupiter overcoming Saturn reduce the malefic effects of Saturn? Or because Jupiter is also in fall would the overcoming be cancelled out?
I am a little lost at 54:16 , the overcoming of superior planets based on sign. How to determine that? I thought Jupiter is overcoming Mercury because Jupiter is in Aries and Aries is the first therefore earlier than cancer. But with the Venus example in Pisces is also overcoming ? Isn’t Pisces the last sign in zodiacal order , therefore cancer precedes it? 😂 I am lost , otherwise thank you for this wealth of knowledge
I’m curious if two planets are harmonious by sign but inharmonious by degree which reception is more important. For example, if the moon is in the 1st house and Mars is in third, they’re sextile by sign but Mars happens to be at 29 degrees of Gemini and the Moon is at 3 degrees Aries, so square by degree.
How does Pisces come before Cancer in zodiacal order? Because it's above the horizon?
I have mercury in Capricorn 11th house and Saturn retrograde in Gemini 3/4th house but with no aspects.
thank you so much
If a person had a first house sun in Capricorn, and the ruler Saturn is in Aquarius which would fall in the second house - unseen in whole sign house system, would this be a mitigating factor since Saturn is the ruler of both signs?
This was so insightful ! I have your book✨and love it!
I have my moon in Capricorn (12house ) and Mars (6thhouse).
In Cancer!
Is that helping me😳!
Bedankt
Thank you for your support, I appreciate it!
I’m a Scorpio rising with Mars in sag and in the 2nd. I also have Jupiter in Aires in the 6th. I also have the caves that Saturn is in the 2nd , also with Neptune. What would this mean?
Was really hoping you'd say something about Inauguration Day. The Sun just entered Detriment. Who picked that time? How do things like that happen?
The inauguration is always in aquarius season.....
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Oh yeah.
Poop.
I just checked the 2021 episode and listened to the Inauguration stuff.
What a mess.
tHANKS cHRIS!!