H3VR Devlog - MOAR THERMAL SIGHT SHENANIGANS

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  • Опубліковано 23 жов 2024

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  • @Meep-hm4bg
    @Meep-hm4bg 3 місяці тому +331

    will the IR laser be visible for the hardcore sosigs that have NVG on their model?

    • @spasecofbojx
      @spasecofbojx 3 місяці тому +73

      Based off of Antons love to detail, I'd assume it will. Let's hope xD

    • @NOVAScOoT
      @NOVAScOoT 3 місяці тому +27

      I hope we also get flashlights as counter if so. Imagine being able to take a scorpion with a sawed off because it's dark and you surprise him with a light in the face.

  • @adolfobisi6027
    @adolfobisi6027 3 місяці тому +206

    Anton about weapons heat map: "this is not something that I'm gonna do for all 500 weapons in the game."
    Also Anton on next fridays devlog: "so I got bored and did the heatmap for all 500 weapons"

    • @migueeeelet
      @migueeeelet 3 місяці тому

      I guess that's what happens when you're trying to test the new content and find yourself constantly having to adapt it to every gun you're choosing.

  • @TehSquiddleDiddle
    @TehSquiddleDiddle 3 місяці тому +134

    “That texture repeat is obvious, lazy dev.”
    And Anton took that sosig’s comment personally

  • @silverseth7
    @silverseth7 3 місяці тому +181

    For casing cooling to be based on cartridge type, the special devilrevolver 666 magnum will always be hot.

  • @danwood1121
    @danwood1121 3 місяці тому +133

    That work making empty brass have accurate cool is why I love this game. Absolute labor of love.

  • @yeah8767
    @yeah8767 3 місяці тому +46

    the limited frame rate is such a cool touch. if at all possible, adding thermal as a filter for the spectator cam would be so cool

  • @DeadlyTigers
    @DeadlyTigers 3 місяці тому +30

    Hey, love the new addition, but being someone who's nerded thermals for far too long, here's a few suggestions to them:
    not all thermal sights have the low framerate, the more expensive a thermal, the higher resolution, FOV, Framerate and lower delay. one unique aspect to a lot of thermals, is they have tiny pauses where they "recalibrate". even very expensive models, can have this, where the image pauses for a short period, ranging from .5 seconds to 2 seconds, before it resumes as normal. the interval also increases the more expensive the unit is, meaning less interruptions.
    Additionally, Thermals can see straight through smoke, a feature getting used by certain firefighting departments for search and rescue. Thermals can also not see through any glass you'll realistically find, only capable of seeing through Germanium, a rare metal, and some special Silicone lenses made for the purpose. Mirrors on the other hand, will work with thermals too! Shiny metal, will also work like mirros and reflect the same way as a mirror would.
    All this is based on hundreds of hours of research in to this, as well as my own findings with my own thermal camera, being two units, one the cheapest possible, and one on the high end spectrum.

    • @DeadlyTigers
      @DeadlyTigers 3 місяці тому +11

      Also forgot to add, another idea could be making that cold barrel, make the sosig and enviroment around the barrel, make the thermal pick that up as a dark blue color, indicating it's colder than ambient tempature

    • @Dash62g
      @Dash62g 3 місяці тому +2

      big agree on all of this and would love to see these implemented. especially about visibility of glass and smoke

    • @olefar02
      @olefar02 3 місяці тому +2

      Glass and smoke stuff is already in, mirroring doesn't work since we're not doing raytracing. NUC-ing wasn't implemented because it's kind of annoying, so I'd only want to do it if it's done correctly, and I don't think we can reliably get data on the timings for it for every thermal device we'd implement (my understanding is that the timing would also change over time as the device starts to heat up while in use)

    • @peaceoutbruh7085
      @peaceoutbruh7085 3 місяці тому +1

      wasnt all of this literally in the last devlog?

  • @underscorn
    @underscorn 3 місяці тому +45

    Please don't make it so that sosigs just automatically aggro on your exact location if they see your laser, that would make them extremely lame and bad.
    I think the best course of action to take would be to just make them go on high alert and turn toward the your general direction if they see your laser. That way they still have to look at *you* for at least a half second before they start shooting, but it *will* still be a tradeoff.

    • @LafingAnarkist
      @LafingAnarkist 3 місяці тому +8

      making them enter confused state like when they see sosig chunks should do the job, it's like being alerted but not knowing where the danger is.

    • @Maffia7
      @Maffia7 3 місяці тому +4

      While I agree with you, it would still be interesting if they can aggro on you, as long as the type of sosig is capable of doing so. While civilians or sosigs from the past would be confused, those that are trained in modern combat and possible even have vision enhancing gear could trace back where the laser comes from.
      Of course it would still be good to get a setting for that, since I do like to up the difficulty in take and hold from time to time. Other times I just want to run and gun for fun.

    • @leonhardmollney8638
      @leonhardmollney8638 3 місяці тому

      The spec ops sosigs should also have faster responses

    • @badgermcbadger1968
      @badgermcbadger1968 3 місяці тому

      I think it should depend on exposure time (if they only see the laser for a split second they shouldn't know where you are, but for a longer while they should be able to pin point you)

  • @RIGman0497
    @RIGman0497 3 місяці тому +44

    Hopefully, after all the headache of implementing the NV and IR systems, we get to see the m3 carbine in a future update and it's ridiculously gigantic night vision system!

    • @CobraDBlade
      @CobraDBlade 3 місяці тому +11

      Or the German "Vampir" system for the StG44, battery backpack and all!

    • @garyslayton8340
      @garyslayton8340 3 місяці тому +2

      That is 100 percent what he will do next
      All the wacky stuff involving night vision and early thermals

  • @Schnozinski
    @Schnozinski 3 місяці тому +41

    If we have intentionally awful early NV monocular tech, to balance it out, Sam Fisher borderline-scifi-quality NV/Thermal goggles when?

    • @OperatorVanta
      @OperatorVanta 3 місяці тому +3

      We already saw that in the last video
      We got the ENVG, which is basically night vision, with a thermal overlay that outlines all thermal signatures

  • @CrispyGFX
    @CrispyGFX 3 місяці тому +65

    5:23 biblically accurate sosig

    • @nonideal
      @nonideal 3 місяці тому

      Underrated comment 🤣😂

  • @eimane2u
    @eimane2u 3 місяці тому +17

    12:48 funniest thing I've heard you say. So excited for this update

  • @Ceeed100
    @Ceeed100 3 місяці тому +17

    The Sosig beeing as hot as the glowing red barrels from the minigun is too funny :D

  • @themilkman6969
    @themilkman6969 3 місяці тому +54

    idea: allow the player to scream into their headset microphone to alert sosigs

  • @EvanDaGr8
    @EvanDaGr8 3 місяці тому +40

    That laser nerf is really smart. Always thought getting one was an "automatic win".

  • @BreadBoys
    @BreadBoys 3 місяці тому +3

    Are you gonna add a dark/night TnH map in the future? Being able to shoot out lights in TnH levels would also be really cool to go alongside the NVGs and thermals
    (Adding nvgs to the buy menu for any dark maps would also be swag)

    • @markusmccloud
      @markusmccloud 3 місяці тому +1

      *Blackout Hallways* _- The same map you know and love, but the main power's been cut. You WILL need a reliable light source or some good NVGs._
      It'd be the same layout as Hallways, but almost all map lighting will be gone... well, aside from some new infrequent dim emergency lights, glowing an ominous red.

  • @racer927
    @racer927 3 місяці тому +8

    7:13 Reminds me of my EyeClops Nightvision 2.0 which I still have and yeah it's quite trippy.
    You know what else is trippy? The AN-94 and AEK-971 balanced recoil rifles!

    • @Goodvibes-un9qk
      @Goodvibes-un9qk 3 місяці тому +3

      This unlocked a core memory for me lmao. I had one as a kid. That would be such an amazing skin for the terrible vomit monocular NV goggles.

    • @MKVProcrastinator
      @MKVProcrastinator 3 місяці тому

      Anton is not going to add any Russian guns for as long as the invasion of Ukraine is ongoing, and even after that it's not likely.

  • @Unknown_Comrade_
    @Unknown_Comrade_ 3 місяці тому +44

    Oh man, once I actually buy a pc H3VR and VTOL VR is everything imma play for a good bit
    Also, shoutout to B&S for its 1.0 update

    • @ricardohe1976
      @ricardohe1976 3 місяці тому +9

      Yep, both of these titles let me appreciate the scale of the guns and planes way better than any 2D game

    • @apyr1439
      @apyr1439 3 місяці тому +7

      Yeah, those are basically the only VR games I play, and the best ones I've played

    • @CarpeNoctem135
      @CarpeNoctem135 3 місяці тому +2

      Have both and both are a blast to play. It’s absolutely worth it

    • @bongo6_462
      @bongo6_462 3 місяці тому

      Both games are 100% worth it

    • @CarpeNoctem135
      @CarpeNoctem135 3 місяці тому

      Also have to shout out blade and sorcery since the 1.0 update. Add that one to your list too

  • @anDWAP
    @anDWAP 3 місяці тому +3

    This has probably been thought of, when I saw the laser pistol I was half thinking the battery would also heat up to visible

  • @CobraDBlade
    @CobraDBlade 3 місяці тому +6

    Really going above and beyond on this Anton! Out of curiosity, will you be applying the heating effect you demoed on the minigun to suppressors (since there are significantly fewer of those in game versus the firearms)? I can absolutely understand if you still decide to only apply it to stuff that already has the effect built in. It's probably a huge amount of work as it is.

  • @tacosauce935
    @tacosauce935 3 місяці тому +3

    Anton just keeps coming out with bangers! You single handedly made me keep my VR with this game.

  • @Agent_Matt_6
    @Agent_Matt_6 3 місяці тому +14

    Looking forward to the full implementation of the scopes :D

  • @oof6803
    @oof6803 3 місяці тому +3

    Anton never ceases to amaze me as a dev from the stuff he used to say he couldn’t do

  • @Dash62g
    @Dash62g 3 місяці тому +7

    seeing this progress in real time as a bit of a night vision nerd is so cool.
    think you'll add cheap digital night vision that just casts and sees IR light?

  • @MrMoustaffa
    @MrMoustaffa 3 місяці тому +1

    Watching the casings come out with actual heat was mindblowing. This is the kind of stuff you just never see in a game, thats so cool

  • @Zacho5
    @Zacho5 3 місяці тому +4

    Looks amazing, cant wait to try all this. Only thing missing is IR lights, but i have a feeling those may come at some point too. Thank you so much for all the work!

  • @idkanymore6897
    @idkanymore6897 3 місяці тому +4

    awesome work so far anton, along with the rest of H3VR's team
    and thank you for scheduling the experimental branch drop before the 4th, since h3vr is the perfect game to mess with on the 4th
    cant wait to see the toy that we'll get :)

  • @JettySkeadyVR
    @JettySkeadyVR 3 місяці тому +27

    Anton this is one of the best vr games I’ve ever played thank you

    • @BasedGrandmasKitchen
      @BasedGrandmasKitchen 3 місяці тому +3

      beter then gtag lol

    • @JettySkeadyVR
      @JettySkeadyVR 3 місяці тому +3

      @@BasedGrandmasKitchen yeah dude now that that pride updates out

    • @Ghostrunner-d7u
      @Ghostrunner-d7u 3 місяці тому +8

      @@JettySkeadyVRYou do realize that Anton supports the LGBTQ, right? (that is not a bad thing)

    • @kieks7030
      @kieks7030 3 місяці тому +6

      there was a pride update for h3vr too and there are pride flags in the game

    • @BasedGrandmasKitchen
      @BasedGrandmasKitchen 3 місяці тому

      @@JettySkeadyVR anton suports lgbtq and there is gay flag in game bigot

  • @SirAroace
    @SirAroace 3 місяці тому +6

    4:45 will yo be adding this to the LAPD 2019 Special given it also has heat base mechanics and effects?

  • @vilputea32
    @vilputea32 3 місяці тому +1

    Anton thank you for making this amazing game, really, thank you!

  • @smakkacowtherealone
    @smakkacowtherealone 3 місяці тому +6

    you NEED to add voicelines for the sosigs seeing your laser point on them

  • @Ec360Gaming
    @Ec360Gaming 3 місяці тому +1

    Anton: Im never going to add thermals and night vision to the game, it just isn't possible
    Also Anton: Here, on a whim I created some of the highest fidelity NVGs and thermal optics ever put into a game and they're coming out in a few days
    What a legend

  • @jonathansmithers2763
    @jonathansmithers2763 3 місяці тому +6

    we need actual thermal goggles and flamethrower sosigs so we can recreate a secret alternative intro to The Fury from MGS3
    basically if you have thermal goggles equipped during The Fury's (guy with a flamethrower) intro cutacene, it gets slightly changed

  • @mistercovey
    @mistercovey 3 місяці тому +1

    These casings slowly cooling is the next step to the Metal Gear Solid 2 ice cubes. Great work, as usual!

  • @rsodrealm
    @rsodrealm 3 місяці тому +2

    *gunshots firing off*
    "THANK YOU VOLOUNTEERS!"

  • @x-tothe-k
    @x-tothe-k 3 місяці тому +1

    I can’t wait to finally be able to use this in game! This looks so fantastic, the work the team has been doing is absolutely mind blowing and I’m glad to be such a fan of h3! I hope everyone has a lovely weekend

  • @minebenderj2227
    @minebenderj2227 3 місяці тому +4

    I CANT WAIT FOR TAKE AND HOLD IN THE DARK

  • @ukrainemonkey4770
    @ukrainemonkey4770 3 місяці тому +7

    we're going to need a dark TnH now

  • @mcgibs
    @mcgibs 3 місяці тому +2

    I want to put that dual optic setup on the PEN15 and call it Dr. Peeper

  • @unseenbirb3247
    @unseenbirb3247 3 місяці тому +1

    cant name a more dedicated vr dev tbh

  • @tytactical156
    @tytactical156 3 місяці тому +2

    Now that we have a system in place for optics to be looking through optics I think it would be super cool to have some magnifiers for red dots that can be flipped out of the way

    • @AntonHand
      @AntonHand  3 місяці тому +2

      Already implemented

  • @turianel7818
    @turianel7818 3 місяці тому +1

    The only way to understand, that i spent another week of my life, is Anton's devblogs...

  • @speechruin
    @speechruin 3 місяці тому +1

    god the thermal effect on the casings is so cool!!

  • @luiscarvalho7899
    @luiscarvalho7899 3 місяці тому +1

    Being a fan of this game is just so gratifying

  • @EvanDaGr8
    @EvanDaGr8 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm really impressed with the speed of development recently. Great job man. Keep er' comin'.

  • @SrZunbeX
    @SrZunbeX 3 місяці тому +1

    This game is my personal heaven by all the details ❤

  • @FuriousDevi
    @FuriousDevi 3 місяці тому +1

    Impressive! Love the heatvision and the whole heat simulation! Seriously what are AAA million dollar dev studios doing????
    Looking forward to the full patch release :-)

  • @MrPatatoThe7th
    @MrPatatoThe7th 3 місяці тому +2

    Anton, i love your passion, And i love what you are making. One of my favorive games and it isnt even done yet,❤❤❤

  • @6UnfortunateFlux9
    @6UnfortunateFlux9 3 місяці тому +1

    Sick work dude. Still one of my favorite VR games. So good!

  • @mr_h1tmarker396
    @mr_h1tmarker396 3 місяці тому +1

    had me jumping up and down when you showed the visible and IR lasers

  • @sacobred8400
    @sacobred8400 3 місяці тому +1

    kinda expected the battery of the lasergun to also get hot over time

  • @Fleeku
    @Fleeku 3 місяці тому +3

    hey you know what would be cool
    blackout institution
    (every room is dark)

  • @jensonbrudy9826
    @jensonbrudy9826 3 місяці тому +1

    Maybe you could add a refresh rate override in setting for the thermal sights? Like a playful setting that will keep the refresh rate the same as HMD refresh rate, and a realistic setting that runs at native refresh rates.

  • @applehead6729
    @applehead6729 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the updates you've made for this amazing game!

  • @BlueDavrial
    @BlueDavrial 3 місяці тому +1

    When he said something that starts today, i was surprised he didnt mention the steam summer sale

  • @LafingAnarkist
    @LafingAnarkist 3 місяці тому +1

    No wonder you often say no to these features Anton, when you implement this stuff there are no half measures huh. You absolute madman, I love it. Also best of luck to all the First2Wurst competition entrants, looking forward to seeing those clips.

  • @gabemccrea6220
    @gabemccrea6220 3 місяці тому +1

    Ur leaving ne speechless anton
    I havent played this game in a few years coz i lost access to VR, but you got me lookin at used market for VR gear JUST for this i NEED to be back in its been over 4 years since i last played, old H3VR was childsplay compared to what you have cookin in here now oh my god
    Yall at rust ltd
    Model developers in the modern gamedev scene

  • @franekbudzinski3745
    @franekbudzinski3745 3 місяці тому +2

    Can't wait for the update, great work 👍

  • @tehwhaffle3088
    @tehwhaffle3088 3 місяці тому +1

    you always manage to add the coolest stuff to this game i am always exited to see what you'll add next. like maybe the 30-40 Krag-Jørgensen rifle?

  • @owendavis5420
    @owendavis5420 3 місяці тому +2

    It would be so cool to have a goggle that gives you terminator or robocop vision.

  • @Maffia7
    @Maffia7 3 місяці тому +1

    These are some amazing details you put in!
    However, does the bbq grill turn hot when you cook sausages? Will that show up on Thermals? ;)

  • @implodingmeth2832
    @implodingmeth2832 3 місяці тому +1

    This is a dream come true. You're the man, Antonio!

  • @softy5447
    @softy5447 3 місяці тому

    Special institution only take and hold character
    Night ops nathan(get it, because nathans ho-):
    -starts with a silencer, a compatabile weapon, and thermal sight or face mounted optic
    -there is now a comically oversized light switch labelled "main power" in the start room that shuts off all artificial light sources
    -smokes are always the initial grenade option in shops
    --the music is replaced with the metroid prime phendrana pirate base music-

  • @Dwexy
    @Dwexy 3 місяці тому +4

    Correct me if i'm wrong but shouldn't cold objects be almost black in the thermal image?

    • @AntonHand
      @AntonHand  3 місяці тому +5

      Indeed. I am still tweaking things.

    • @Dwexy
      @Dwexy 3 місяці тому +2

      @@AntonHand Love the work man, best $20 spent

  • @IndieLambda
    @IndieLambda 3 місяці тому +1

    Dope!
    The Blade Runner revolver also glows red if you spam the railgun mode too much, does that show up too?

  • @baconlord9062
    @baconlord9062 3 місяці тому

    I’m going to love/hate being blessed with the monocular NVG in Take And Hold!

  • @greenrryt
    @greenrryt 3 місяці тому

    now imagine what anton can do if he ever gets 100% inspired

  • @krispork
    @krispork 3 місяці тому +1

    The ir laser should have a very dim pink dot when not viewed through night vision :3

  • @weixinlin446
    @weixinlin446 3 місяці тому +1

    This game has to have the best customers - simply due to the amount of consistently added free content.

  • @PugoTheDucko
    @PugoTheDucko 3 місяці тому

    adding the ability to change night/day in sandbox maps would be cool for extra use for nvgs

  • @frankcasella423
    @frankcasella423 3 місяці тому +2

    Omg anton thank you for the biocular night vision 😁😁😁

  • @migueeeelet
    @migueeeelet 3 місяці тому

    With the 3 categories I hope we get a revamp of T&H's accessory spawn system. It already sucks to get non-compatible parts, imagine getting a clip-on night vision for a map with no dark areas or when you don't have any other kind of sight.

  • @gagejohnathan9641
    @gagejohnathan9641 3 місяці тому

    The nvg goggles should be an exception to the perfect realism rule for h3vr

  • @nickosman1556
    @nickosman1556 3 місяці тому +5

    Anton PLS have a nice day

  • @Glenndogamer35
    @Glenndogamer35 3 місяці тому +2

    Do you think we'll be able to blind the sosigs with nvg's if we have a flashlight?

  • @dadkiller4434
    @dadkiller4434 3 місяці тому +1

    you should add a sosig thermal fart to go with the farting voiceline

  • @MKVProcrastinator
    @MKVProcrastinator 3 місяці тому +1

    6:53 jokes on you, I have a Vive with a working camera!

  • @Rin_Nya762
    @Rin_Nya762 3 місяці тому +2

    this is quite impressive mr anton :)

  • @ShadowsodenYT
    @ShadowsodenYT 3 місяці тому +1

    cant wait for more night time maps

  • @tristancourtney5694
    @tristancourtney5694 3 місяці тому

    Hey Anton, love the work! Any plans to make the night vision systems have an optical focus? I use night vision regularly and it really makes weapon manipulation and other tasks close to you very difficult when your goggles are set to optical infinity. I think it would really add a layer of immersion and realism, as well as highlight the importance of red dots for passive aiming since iron sights can't be used.

    • @AntonHand
      @AntonHand  3 місяці тому

      No. Far too expensive to render in vr

  • @NosferatuAlucard24
    @NosferatuAlucard24 3 місяці тому

    Me whos playing H3VR with the Modern Warfighter Remake Optics Mod, which have thermal Scopes (sadly not working correctly at the moment): I would love it to have heat signatures from Sosigs.
    Anton now: Here you go.
    In some time i can use for example the torrey pines logic t10 (1x Thermal Scope)
    What i would also like: (I have a lot of Light/Laser Combos (Modern Warfighter Light and Lasers Mod) and they have the option to toggle stroblight on most of these Light/Laser combos. ) The option to blind and distract Sosigs with Gun mounted Lamps and the Stroblight.

  • @mr.jackstone9256
    @mr.jackstone9256 3 місяці тому +2

    Oh hey anton, since you are doing a lot of scope related stuff lately, i got a question, how likely it is that you could get pistol mounted scopes working?

    • @AntonHand
      @AntonHand  3 місяці тому +1

      I will not be adding RMRs/stuff affixed to slides for performance reasons.

    • @Dash62g
      @Dash62g 3 місяці тому +4

      *this means it will be added in about two years

  • @beanboy887
    @beanboy887 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi anton sorry for the repeated question but will the Jungle Jerky sosigs ever be added to the sosig spawner?

  • @BEEzy408
    @BEEzy408 3 місяці тому

    im gonna pass out...this has to be a dream

  • @3cups920
    @3cups920 3 місяці тому +1

    I love this man

  • @KNIGHTFOX80
    @KNIGHTFOX80 3 місяці тому +1

    Sweet, thermal. Now I can hunt Schwarzeneggers

  • @coltpiecemaker
    @coltpiecemaker 3 місяці тому +1

    Will the IR lasers be visible to sosigs wearing NVG's?

  • @Dudemancom
    @Dudemancom 3 місяці тому +2

    thank you god

  • @ripdoinksinamish
    @ripdoinksinamish 3 місяці тому

    Question: any plans for momentary switches? I think those would be especially helpful for IR lasers.

  • @WwZa7
    @WwZa7 3 місяці тому

    - Anton pls make night maps and night vision!
    - Nah, too much to rework
    Makes night vision, thermal vision, reworks every single item to work with thermals, and even temperature cooling and heating up effects for maximum realism
    Sir, please, take some vacations.

  • @o-manthehuman7867
    @o-manthehuman7867 3 місяці тому +1

    3:20 given that this is possible, would it be possible to make every single hot thing spread a "heat" decal so that hot things spread their heat? (obviously this is comedically impractical for a whole host of reasons but it would be cool to see as a mod)

  • @The_overseer_vault_13
    @The_overseer_vault_13 3 місяці тому +1

    You should make a night map version of the big icy map (forgot the name) for the night vision

  • @TheSpookiestSkeleton
    @TheSpookiestSkeleton 3 місяці тому

    I'm real sorry anton but I gotta ask if you'll be adding eye adjusting to low light environments and also the ruining of said adjustment if you expose your eyes to muzzle flash.

  • @tubetube7025
    @tubetube7025 3 місяці тому +1

    keep on keepin on brotha

  • @isacm4005
    @isacm4005 3 місяці тому +2

    I wonder if i can give myself motion sickness if i wear that nvg

  • @VikOlliver
    @VikOlliver 3 місяці тому +1

    Just a thought: Room on the scoreboard for kilograms of ammo used? :)

  • @3DPleb
    @3DPleb 3 місяці тому +1

    Aw lord it looks SOOoo good

  • @CyanSythe
    @CyanSythe 3 місяці тому +1

    Anton please add a flip-rail attachment, it would be amazing with any type of scope

  • @atlashellwalker9769
    @atlashellwalker9769 3 місяці тому

    Now we need grips with buttons for the IR and flashlight units.
    Edit: we might also need head mounted quads.

  • @boshi_coyo
    @boshi_coyo 3 місяці тому +1

    thermals in VR can be quite nauseating lol