Bassmaster Elite Series Rookie Disqualified For Failing Polygraph Exam…When Will This End?

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  • @davidhawkins6776
    @davidhawkins6776 25 днів тому +19

    Intentionally breaking the rules is not a mistake. It's a choice and not an accident.

  • @BC_Fishing
    @BC_Fishing 25 днів тому +41

    Randy, we are in the age of where information is at the click of a button (purchasing waypoints). Now combine that with an angler that has the monetary means (comes from wealth), has all the time in the world (no familial responsibilities), and you have the greatest leap to the top of the ladder. I know we can’t blame someone for being born under theses amazing circumstances that most of us wish we had, but when you fully know your life advantages and still decide to bend the rules, that’s when the problems start.
    The reality is it takes time on a certain body of water to learn where the fish go at any given time of the year. Now you expect people to believe a 18-21 year old has all that info from every elite series lake from time on the water? Just do the math. This polygraph is only the tip of the iceberg.

    • @johnlee7622
      @johnlee7622 24 дні тому +5

      Born on 3rd and think they hit a triple, what a joke, you’ve never been to a body of water, are 21 years old, and you just hop in your boat and catch 25 pound bags 4 days strait 🙄

    • @BassKat169
      @BassKat169 23 дні тому +2

      The wealth advantage in tournament bass fishing has absolutely destroyed the sport !!
      There’s 16 yr old boys being dropped off at the ramp on tournament mornings every weekend in 130k rigs by their dads. How TF do you expect a kid who has never worked for anything to follow rules that have been in affect for 50 yrs.
      The sport will be fkd until new regulations have been established to stop the wealth advantage on electronics spending…
      Anyone who thinks a 18-21 yr kid is literally out fishing men that have been doing it for 40-50 yrs is delusional….

  • @Lrdhawkeye47
    @Lrdhawkeye47 25 днів тому +16

    Totally spot on ffs should be banned. I remember when Shaw Grigsby accidentally drove too fast in a no wake zone. Was doing very well in the tournament. He turned his own self in and disqualified himself. They don't make honest fisherman like that anymore in the young generation

    • @joshsheldon9338
      @joshsheldon9338 23 дні тому

      All they do now is blame the guy that caught em doin it instead of manning up and saying "yep, I screwed up and it's no one's fault but my own." The most disgusting thing is all the people that say " those old guys won't leave those kids alone" even though they're not kids and they're clearly violating the rules. It's hard to watch really.

  • @josephjohnson8847
    @josephjohnson8847 25 днів тому +25

    You know at first I was I was getting annoyed by the OG complaining about lives cope because they weren’t cashing checks but now I would like to apologize. After watching live on the tournament going on now I would have to say it is so boring I mean seriously I have more enjoyment watching the weights and seeing what place the anglers are in then watching live. Here lately I watch elite tournaments on UA-cam from back in the day and seeing how much entertaining it was and thinking man I wish it was like that now.

    • @Basscater81
      @Basscater81 25 днів тому +2

      It’s become such a spectacle at the top levels now. I still fish local tournaments but I just can’t watch it anymore

    • @johngarst3801
      @johngarst3801 24 дні тому +3

      The sport is going to go the direction of the money. Period. New viewers want to see fish caught. FFS gives you that. It looks like NASCAR on water with all the sponsors plastered all over the boats and jerseys. You’ll never convince people to stop making money.

    • @jaym8257
      @jaym8257 24 дні тому +5

      All deeper water tournaments are boring. Always have been. Not nearly as interesting as frog bites.

    • @NineteenEighty8
      @NineteenEighty8 23 дні тому +1

      Its just the deep water tournys that are boring. Then they go to shallow lakes, it's WAY more fun doing topwater stuff.
      All sonar did was allow more fish to be caught, that's it. I'd say it's less boring now.

    • @brianhoward85
      @brianhoward85 21 день тому

      This shows the difference between doing your best to win and winning at all costs. I always say, if you want to learn a man's character, go fishing with him.

  • @TomKirkman1
    @TomKirkman1 25 днів тому +9

    If the rules say you must pass the polygraph test then that's that. Might not mean he actually "cheated" but if he can't pass the poly test, he should be disqualified.

  • @squonto47
    @squonto47 24 дні тому +12

    McKinney is in 3rd after day three on a body of water he only practiced on for a few hours one evening (in his own words on the Bassmaster website). He is surrounded in the standings by the Johnston’s who have fished the SLR for years.
    Make it make sense.

    • @bobbyswain7049
      @bobbyswain7049 24 дні тому +1

      hes just that good😉

    • @BC_Fishing
      @BC_Fishing 23 дні тому +1

      @@squonto47 if you watch day three rewind, you see a Spro boat cut Trey off as if making a very clear statement “You arent supposed to be here”. I’m 100% convinced there is info leaked to him regarding where the spots are. His roommate is JT for crying out loud.

    • @BassKat169
      @BassKat169 23 дні тому +2

      Look when your daddy buys you everything and you haven’t worked for it. Then buying waypoints with dad’s money is nothing out of the ordinary for these kids.

    • @NineteenEighty8
      @NineteenEighty8 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@BassKat169 Trey will outfish you with zero information and 90% of the pros. He's my neighbor and that kid grew up fishing EVERYDAY. He still fishes in my pond and caught him out there just this spring several times. All the waypoints they are using is just public information, especially among the fishermen. It happens.

    • @DH-tp9oe
      @DH-tp9oe 21 день тому +2

      @@NineteenEighty8not a chance in hell a kid out fishes all the pros all year long without help. You don't "find the juice" at every single tournament. He's not that good that he knows every spot in America

  • @stevefisher2121
    @stevefisher2121 25 днів тому +9

    In my opinion probably 75% or more of the anglers do the same thing!!! It’s the age of technology and information is readily available at the touch of a button.

  • @MrKenrob13
    @MrKenrob13 24 дні тому +4

    Thanks for the insight on this FFS crap Randy much respect. I have been a fan of yours since you first started on the FLW scene brother and I enjoy your commentary 100%.Keep up the great work brother 🎣🏆🎣

  • @paullong8867
    @paullong8867 25 днів тому +9

    Luke Dunkin's most recent podcast his wife Marissa let it slip that a Elite series rookie received waypoints from a MLF boat offical, he siad you were not supposed to say that! then he said i guess there will a polygraph then changed subject!

  • @slantedorbit
    @slantedorbit 24 дні тому +5

    My wife teaches at the college level. Faculty everywhere are contending with unprecedented levels of cheating. This generation doesn’t know where their abilities end and outside benefits via technology start. Integrity is a mysterious abstraction to them. Fishing is not alone in this.

  • @kiknbss14
    @kiknbss14 24 дні тому +7

    Do a tournament with out FFS and see how these guys do. These young guys wouldn't do shit.

    • @BassKat169
      @BassKat169 23 дні тому

      90% of them would be out in a year. These kids haven’t work for their boats cause dad bought it all. They’ve never worked hard for nothing so buying waypoints doesn’t seem out of the ordinary to them. Just give it to me cause I have dads money.

    • @NineteenEighty8
      @NineteenEighty8 23 дні тому

      ​@@BassKat169 Man you are so salty, youre in every comment bashing a 19 year old for making millions. McKinneys didnt buy Trey a boat. He had a pawn trawler then a jon boat build until he bought his OWN BOAT from tournaments. Also he didnt even get sonar equipment until his sponsors hooked him up. He didnt even want to use it until he was forced to keep up.
      Trey is my neighbor, stay salty that a 19 year old kid can outfish you anywhere and any time. He doesnt like FFS himself but thats how he gotta make his money. Cry about it, snowflake.

  • @stevesteve4350
    @stevesteve4350 25 днів тому +11

    Imo he's been doing that all season and did the same thing in the Opens.

    • @brian9670
      @brian9670 25 днів тому

      What has he been doing all season?

    • @stevesteve4350
      @stevesteve4350 25 днів тому

      @@brian9670 Watch the video and take a wild guess man.

    • @Shoreline71
      @Shoreline71 24 дні тому

      @@stevesteve4350 In my opinion, it’s your opinion that he’s been doing something all season. I watched but I don’t have a wild guess to give. You better tell me! Or don’t, either way.

  • @johnparsons4332
    @johnparsons4332 25 днів тому +10

    Randy
    A lot of young folks are doing the same thing in their lives. I see many times where they don't agree with rules so they just do what they think or want. A lot of it is cause by their parents allow them to do what ever while they grew up.
    I got drafted in the 60es and that tough me a lot about rules.

    • @brian9670
      @brian9670 25 днів тому +3

      The 60's? You mean when a lot of hippie youth were laying around, doing drugs and wasting their lives?

    • @herbsteiner1013
      @herbsteiner1013 25 днів тому +2

      @@brian9670 I gave you a thumbs up, even though back in the 60's (I'm now 77) I did lay around, get high, and waste a lot of time. But by the late 60's I did get my shit together and wound up leading a good and prosperous life. So I guess I'm a "HIP-ocrite!"
      About young fishing professionals: they're part of the "entitlement" generation, the ones that feel the rules of life are actually only suggestions to be considered when deciding what to do. I find that type of self-centered rebellion very hard to accept or relate to.

    • @randyemerson8729
      @randyemerson8729 23 дні тому

      @@johnparsons4332 that’s why we need to make America great again. Instead of a secondary where we let anybody do what they wanna do because of Liberal laws and judges.

  • @jwblount7802
    @jwblount7802 25 днів тому +24

    You need to take the results of a polygraph test with a grain of salt. If something that cannot be held up in a court room because of its inconsistency it should result in a disqualification. maybe a penalty but not disqualification. Need to find actual proof before calling someone guilty of something.

    • @cross_fire_
      @cross_fire_ 24 дні тому +12

      He bought the way points from a MLF official! Give me break, they’ve sunk brush, bought way points all year, broken multiple rules, visit each other on the water to help each other catch fish. This is a generational problem when they are raised to be this way. Mom and dad have helped these kids be trained and when they were raised they were trained by local guides, great teachers, etc. There are so many other issues than what’s in the public.

    • @Cshoda321
      @Cshoda321 24 дні тому +2

      For what it's worth, Bassmaster stated that he failed specific questions in regards to specific rules.
      Per Bassmaster: "The truth verification exam was administered during the event Friday, and Thompkins failed to pass exam sections that pertain to Rule C3 ii a and Rule C3 (xiv)."
      My interpretation of this statement leaves no doubt that he passed other questions that were asked on this "exam," but he specifically failed "sections" that pertain to the specific rules listed.
      Objectively speaking, this is exactly what we would expect to see if there was deception. (consistently failing sections pertaining to specific rules)
      If the test wasn't accurate, we would expect to see other questions failed as well, correct?

    • @shane4926
      @shane4926 24 дні тому +2

      I agree bout the polygraph test but I will say this it's NOT supposed to be used in court of law well I'm here to tell you BULLSHIT they will 100 percent look at it and use it not just let you know I was there have had it happen to me personally almost went to prison cuz of it I'll tell everybody I know NEVER EVER TAKE ONE PERIOD!

    • @jodyvess8509
      @jodyvess8509 24 дні тому +4

      He Failed, What More Do You Need! These Kid's Should Not Be There!!!! They Are Just DESERVING RICH Kid's!

    • @johnlee7622
      @johnlee7622 24 дні тому

      @@cross_fire_is this for real?? I am seeing it on other videos too!!!

  • @williamyoung8993
    @williamyoung8993 25 днів тому +20

    Stiffer penalties; First offense-out for a year. 2nd offense- out for 5 years.

    • @WesleyCollett
      @WesleyCollett 24 дні тому +5

      @@williamyoung8993 I think if you fail a polygraph/get caught cheating it should be a lifetime ban.

  • @jimcanon4583
    @jimcanon4583 24 дні тому +4

    Pros have been getting info (not a available to public) since before the wheel was round!

  • @keithpowell2786
    @keithpowell2786 24 дні тому +3

    I agree 100% Randy, 95% of this this rookie group would not be on tour if it was not for FFS and I believe that most of them have had everything handed to them. They did not have to work to get where they’re at like you and a lot of other pros had to, working in bait shops, cutting grass, doing carpenter work just to get to the next tournament and if you did not play in the money, you would worry about how you would get home or get to the next tournament. This group knows nothing about that. They’re just enjoying everything gifted them only silver platter and it shows, it’s a huge black hole fishing scene

    • @BassKat169
      @BassKat169 23 дні тому

      You’re 100% right.
      I see it every weekend when a dad drops his 16-18 yr old son off in a tournament in a 130k rig. This kid didn’t work for that rig.

  • @bobramsey8380
    @bobramsey8380 25 днів тому +3

    Randy, thank you for say this ! It's sad when your veterans are talking about quitting. A couple of them are very disrespectful to the Veterans.

  • @BrianSousa1
    @BrianSousa1 25 днів тому +13

    He’s not the only rookie cheating you can believe that. They need to make an example out of him!!!

    • @wadehobaugh3542
      @wadehobaugh3542 23 дні тому

      If thats the case, there is also 20 year guys cheating too.

    • @BrianSousa1
      @BrianSousa1 22 дні тому

      @@wadehobaugh3542 anything’s possible

  • @philiph1802
    @philiph1802 24 дні тому +3

    Kuddos for Bass for finally doing something. Maybe MLF will follow in their footsteps.

  • @Boethius411
    @Boethius411 25 днів тому +9

    When bassmaster goes all in on protecting the purity of the sport again.

    • @mikeiskric966
      @mikeiskric966 25 днів тому +1

      I bet that info was shared with others he knows,

  • @richwarren2475
    @richwarren2475 21 день тому

    Randy the statement you made here around the 5:50 Mark is one of the best quotes I have heard!
    About the stage these young anglers are on and the amazing and tremendous anglers on this earth we have all looked up to that this new breed need to follow and understand where they are now. Just incredible men that paved our way to what sport we all love. Most of us non professional fisherman actually act and follow these rules and would have loved to had that chance. No one has to like you but they surely need to at least listen and respect what you say as a man who has already seen, heard and done this whole process for alot of years. Truly hope this is not our new direction for the sport of fishing we all love.

  • @RM-gg8nb
    @RM-gg8nb 24 дні тому +4

    Polygraphs are not 100% accurate,really I don't like the polygraph crap..

    • @RM-gg8nb
      @RM-gg8nb 24 дні тому

      I feel like FFS and Live scope should not be allowed in any tournament, I can see maybe in practice.. But, who am I to say what's good,lol

  • @stevencrane9949
    @stevencrane9949 23 дні тому

    Sir Randall very professional and very well said on your view on protecting the sport

  • @AaronS-ml1bh
    @AaronS-ml1bh 25 днів тому +10

    I bet if they gave trey one he fails also

    • @kumaegi
      @kumaegi 23 дні тому

      He is doing one right now

    • @mikefunk1423
      @mikefunk1423 23 дні тому +1

      And he passed it!

  • @WesleyCollett
    @WesleyCollett 24 дні тому +3

    I had said on Facebook that the rookie class would not be doing what they are doing without FFS. A guy literally told me that these young rookies were "mentally and physically in their prime"!?!? It wasn't a week later that Trey forgot what time it was. They are obviously not mentally in their prime.

  • @user-fn9gw5gn7t
    @user-fn9gw5gn7t 25 днів тому +19

    I agree 💯%!!!!! Ban ffs!!! And alot problems go away. Fishing should become great again.

    • @johnemrey9877
      @johnemrey9877 25 днів тому

      Yes. That makes sense, using ffs makes someone a cheater. I guess your wife having Facebook makes her a slut?

  • @joevankilpatrick4010
    @joevankilpatrick4010 24 дні тому +1

    It’s just not the same anymore for me and also for most all my fishing buddies! And I agree 1,000% with what Randy said, take away FFS and we would have never even heard of most all these younger guys!

  • @phillipstarrett8416
    @phillipstarrett8416 25 днів тому +9

    Not admissible in court so how can they kick him out

    • @timroyall6513
      @timroyall6513 24 дні тому +5

      It's their game, so they can do what they want.

    • @bobbyswain7049
      @bobbyswain7049 24 дні тому +5

      He agreed to follow their rules....one of their rules is you must pass a polygragh....so hes dqd. Simple as that

    • @phillipstarrett8416
      @phillipstarrett8416 20 днів тому

      @@bobbyswain7049 yea i understand how it works. Just saying something that the law can’t get you with they should t be able to

  • @PCAPastorTrav
    @PCAPastorTrav 25 днів тому +2

    “No one should be judged by the worst mistake they have made.” Truth.
    Love the idea about a very thorough orientation to be on the Elites.
    In all reality, I don’t know how waypoint sharing can be dealt with as long as we’re using gps on our units.

  • @TheREVIEWGUY1-ip1wm
    @TheREVIEWGUY1-ip1wm 24 дні тому +2

    Glad he out we already got dumb livescope in tournaments and now the guides have livescope and its ruined fishing getting tougher

  • @bill-qv3er
    @bill-qv3er 24 дні тому +3

    He was disqualified for buying waypoints from an MLF official who was there recently from what I hear. Not verified yet, we will have to see what BASS says. I am sure the crap will hit the fan over this whole deal. If that is true it could cost him dearly. Just pure stupidity !!

  • @robertsheppard2338
    @robertsheppard2338 25 днів тому +3

    I agree with you Randy ffs has ruined bass fishing. I no longer watch any tournaments on TV and I have bad feelings for bass and crappie fishing in the coming years.

  • @user-ey2te5vs3z
    @user-ey2te5vs3z 24 дні тому +1

    Well said. You are absolutely correct!

  • @tombates4235
    @tombates4235 25 днів тому +4

    ban FFS from all fishing tournaments including kayaking fish tournaments.

  • @WeekEnd_Bassn
    @WeekEnd_Bassn 25 днів тому +2

    Randy, Great points! I believe expands further out the sport, is a generational issue.

  • @martymooney8099
    @martymooney8099 25 днів тому +5

    I wonder what JT did for a living before fishing? Not exactly sure but I'm going to say probably nothing. If he was born dirt-poor he would not be where he is.

    • @OptimisticFloppyDisc-bz6qi
      @OptimisticFloppyDisc-bz6qi 25 днів тому +3

      His dad is a pro bass fisherman who fished the opens and either qualified for the elites or was runner up for qualifying for elites but his dad is very wealthy and they own a ton of rental property in myrtle beach

    • @jerirush6500
      @jerirush6500 24 дні тому +1

      people who arent spoiled going into the sport and learning everything the hard way and or have to rely on traditional methods as anglers usually have the utmost respect for the sport. Technology as with everything else it touches spoils the journey which carries so much lessons into maturity and that's in everything in life

  • @randyemerson8729
    @randyemerson8729 24 дні тому +1

    here is the problem Randy it’s not even just the anglers. We need to go after Bassmaster and MLF. is there loose interpretation of the rules and or agenda to rake in the cash. They have as much responsibility as the anglers do and based on what I’m seeing and how the positioning themselves they need to correct themselves or they’re going to get corrected in the marketplace.

  • @hunterpratt5899
    @hunterpratt5899 23 дні тому

    This is probably the best video you have ever put out, Randy. Hit several nails right on the head.

  • @darrinsloppieejoefranklin6511
    @darrinsloppieejoefranklin6511 24 дні тому +1

    You make a lot of valid points . Why not get with some of the OG's of fishing and start a new league?

  • @mr.skeptical3071
    @mr.skeptical3071 25 днів тому +12

    Ban livescope

  • @eugenefoster9120
    @eugenefoster9120 23 дні тому

    You did it the right way Randy ! These young guys dont have the respect for the sport they should have.

  • @NINERS8able
    @NINERS8able 23 дні тому +1

    Waiting for your post about the Gee Johnson brothers controversy.

  • @spikymikie
    @spikymikie 25 днів тому +7

    The rookies should be on a probationary period their first year. If they get caught violating the rules, they should be banned for that season. And if they come back the next year and are caught again, lifetime ban. He just got DQ'ed from that tournament. Thats not enough. He needs to spend the year at home thinking about what he has done. Personal Integrity is the most important thing there is in the sport. Without that, the sport is nothing. Just an old timer who spent 5 years on the Board of Directors for the NC BASS Federation in the 90's talking. This is not a video game where you just restart it if you fail, its real life. If you violate the law, you can go to jail for it. Should be the same in the sport. That is the only way to preserve the integrity of the sport. I feel like Ray Scott would agree.

    • @vernonduryii9224
      @vernonduryii9224 25 днів тому

      That’s a big conclusion from very little facts. I think I’d be nervous taking a polygraph especially back when I was young. I will withhold my opinion until facts are shared. I do agree that FFS has changed the game and not for the better but they all have it

    • @spikymikie
      @spikymikie 24 дні тому

      @@vernonduryii9224 With the amount of money at steak nowadays, the temptation to "stretch" the rules is greater than ever. Especially with some of these arrogent young kids. Having very harsh penalties in place discourages that behavior. And forced discipline leads to self discipline. Thats how we do it in the military. Remember when Iocanellli got DQed during the classic? I sure do. He threw a fit about it. But later, he owned up to it and took responsibility.

    • @jodyvess8509
      @jodyvess8509 24 дні тому +2

      I fished the Federation in the 90s and did very well, and Ethics, and Integrity is what we Had! Never Riding Any Gray Area!

  • @thefaithalivechurch
    @thefaithalivechurch 24 дні тому +1

    They should do away with live view. And see how good the anglers are.

  • @markflueckiger6157
    @markflueckiger6157 24 дні тому +3

    So what about the wonderful guys that send in friends to fish after practice is over to help them locate fish...there are many in the 30yr old ranges...when $$ is involved, cheating will follow. I used to love fishing 😔🤦‍♂️

  • @tonystange8603
    @tonystange8603 25 днів тому +3

    I agree 100% Randy.

  • @rogerglasco5941
    @rogerglasco5941 24 дні тому +2

    Randy, I just cancelled my membership with BASS. I am angry with them over FFS. The magazine they put out is not near it was years ago. It is no more than a Badcock furniture flyer. Now they want $18.00 for a year subscription. I am sorry, but these new rookies and their FFS is no more than a computer game at home. They were brought up that way so it is easy for them. I blame BASS for letting this happen. The historic PROs that you mentioned didn't have those electronics. In reality, I believe they can use these things on practice days only and taken off their boats on tournament days. That is my position. Great video.

  • @PaulFerber
    @PaulFerber 25 днів тому +21

    💯 i followed Millikin for years. He didn’t start catching 10 lb bass til he added FFS and moved to texas. His last video he made a comment about how it doesn’t take skill to work a shoreline for bass 🖕🏻🖕🏻

    • @soldierofdirt81
      @soldierofdirt81 25 днів тому

      🖕 Milliken!!

    • @samkeely3729
      @samkeely3729 25 днів тому +15

      How is he supposed to catch 10 pounders in Nebraska

    • @slayerstacker2074
      @slayerstacker2074 25 днів тому +10

      I would say moving to Texas had more to do with him catching 10 lb. Bass than FFS.

    • @PaulFerber
      @PaulFerber 25 днів тому

      @@samkeely3729 im sure theres a couple swimming around.

    • @PaulFerber
      @PaulFerber 25 днів тому +3

      @@slayerstacker2074 he never caught a giant until FFS. Yes texas has giants. Look at Josh Jones. Another FFS user.

  • @slagletoby
    @slagletoby 24 дні тому

    You nailed it, Randy! Perfectly said.

  • @af4od02
    @af4od02 25 днів тому +1

    When I was a High School Fishing team boat captain, I used to asked the anglers if they knew about Ray Scott, Bill Dance, Roland Martin etc. The HS anglers said no. I asked did they want any old back copies of Bassmaster Magazine to read about tournaments and techniques. The HS anglers said no. All they wanted to do was fish and get quick 3 minute snippets of fishing information from their cell phones.

    • @Basscater81
      @Basscater81 25 днів тому +2

      It’s across the board. This youth as a whole doesn’t care about or want to learn history.

  • @MrJohnB-qs6dp
    @MrJohnB-qs6dp 25 днів тому +1

    Agree 100%!!! Stay Safe & God Bless!!!!🤠👍

  • @AaronS-ml1bh
    @AaronS-ml1bh 25 днів тому +3

    What does a way point go for nowadays?

  • @Justsayn6309
    @Justsayn6309 22 дні тому

    This is Randy's "...do you think you just fell out of a coconut tree..." speech

  • @JMFWWorldwide
    @JMFWWorldwide 24 дні тому +1

    This alleged incident about JT will be swept under the rug in a week. The leagues openly tell us how they are not here to hurt anyone’s career. When will an angler actually be held accountable? I know from experience that the only way to get a major fine & be barred from a league is to actually call out the league or its CEO for the BS that is said & call them out for the conflict of interest. You’d be amazed how another big named angler or two got to where they are from shady shit they pulled when coming through the ranks! You’d burn their signature series shit in the parking lot!

  • @TheAirborneYaker
    @TheAirborneYaker 25 днів тому +18

    Randy, l couldn't agree more. FFS and these young privileged anglers are destroying our sport!

    • @brian9670
      @brian9670 25 днів тому +5

      "Young privleged anglers"...you do realize that is what the old guys back in the 80's were calling guys like Randy, right?

    • @Fishingin290
      @Fishingin290 25 днів тому +3

      @@brian9670 Yeah, but now they're armed to the Gills like they're going into combat.. Every electronic known to man, every advantage that PRO FISHERMAN should not have. It's an episode right out of Disney, should be called WALL-E Fishing.

    • @JasonHamilton00
      @JasonHamilton00 25 днів тому +4

      @@brian9670 yea, randy and guys like him in the 80s not even having enough money to sleep in a motel room on tour, living in their trucks going from tourney to tourney were certainly privileged lmao. if you cant catch fish without ffs just say so

    • @brian9670
      @brian9670 25 днів тому +1

      Lmao you don't have to defend Randy's honor. He's already married, pal.

  • @kenrobertson1463
    @kenrobertson1463 21 день тому

    Here is the answer, no practice and the same in the old days, golf course style on lakes. No wave points, only to and from routes. Schedule will be posted as dates only. Lake will be off limits during the season. Your a pro, you don't need a practice day and no sharing information or lures with anyone.

  • @Glock-1
    @Glock-1 24 дні тому

    There are tons of rumors of the rookies that room together and share waypoints lures and even work as a team and split winnings, something should be done

  • @chrisjames3087
    @chrisjames3087 25 днів тому +3

    I won't watch a video that features FFS. Period.

  • @scotthaskins6062
    @scotthaskins6062 23 дні тому +1

    Bassmaster tournaments are going right down the crapper

  • @lgarcia831
    @lgarcia831 24 дні тому +1

    I love the sport and respect the shoulders we all stand on, but if you think that the OGs did not skirt the line like these youngsters (ie. get waypoints, creek locations, cut down trees, place gas tanks along the bank to give a distance advantage) then you’re delusional. Write better updated rules.

  • @ernestcoleman4672
    @ernestcoleman4672 25 днів тому +1

    You are right Randy.

  • @JeromeCooley-us8zl
    @JeromeCooley-us8zl 25 днів тому +1

    Rule violation in a unintentional way is one thing but to do it intentionally knowing its knowing it to be so is completely unexcusable. But I'll also say there's probably not a single solitary sole who has violated a rule sometime or another.

    • @kiknbss14
      @kiknbss14 24 дні тому

      Roland Martin had guys out fishing ahead of him during and finding out patterns on the next body of water from what I have heard.

  • @thefaithalivechurch
    @thefaithalivechurch 24 дні тому +1

    They should get rid of live scope, just like you said. anybody can become a bass angler.

  • @steveglasson2424
    @steveglasson2424 25 днів тому +2

    Totally agree!!

  • @yingyang-hl4tu
    @yingyang-hl4tu 23 дні тому +1

    Imagine being in such a position in life that this is what you're worried about, this is what is important to you. Amazing.

  • @jamesvircik2865
    @jamesvircik2865 25 днів тому +1

    Randy, all someone has to tell you is the hotspots and you show up with the scope. In my opinion they all have scouts. That’s how you win. Somebody was out there right before you got there. He’ll call you later. Tell you where the fish are that’s all you need to know

  • @toddg.2638
    @toddg.2638 22 дні тому

    I enjoyed this sport in the early 2000's, when ESPN hosted the Bassmasters elite series with Jerry McGinnis and Tom Sanders. Today, it seems kind of "corny" with the Boom-shaka-laka weigh-in announcer along with other characters in this sport.

  • @jerirush6500
    @jerirush6500 24 дні тому

    there should be one or two tournament in the circuit where it will just be raw skills solely no sonars just good intuition and compilation of personal experience...hence the BMElite once you qualify to this level in the circuit I think this should just be one that should require raw skills alone. Imagine how much more prestigious it would make it and how much more "worthy" and or well deserving of the title it would be. Like it would set BMElite from and as the best of the best not because of technology but by skills acquired from the days, weeks, years on the water. It would really separate and filter out the best anglers out there cause finding where the bass are at using your senses to feel your environment and narrow down your casts makes for the skilled hunter/angler... how far off the points, or looking for the areal predators to find where the baitfish are, the currents and where in the water have active biodiversity, feeling the bottom composition using your weights alone etc. those things are canceled with forward facing sonar and yet they are so essential as one would find when they don't have technology to do half the battle.

  • @AaronS-ml1bh
    @AaronS-ml1bh 25 днів тому +3

    He shoild be thrown out anyine who fails a polygraph for cheating needs to be black listed for life😊

    • @johnrobison9527
      @johnrobison9527 25 днів тому +2

      Quiet the punishment for a "failed polygraph" something that's not admissible in a court of law, I personally don't like taking polygraph test not that I'm trying to hide something but if it or the one giving the test is wrong you ruin a guy's reputation

    • @AaronS-ml1bh
      @AaronS-ml1bh 23 дні тому

      Sounds like you're a cheater

  • @kevinleary3372
    @kevinleary3372 24 дні тому

    FFS is here to stay regardless if you like it or not. Move on past this all the time. It's a part of the sport and isn't going anywhere until something better comes out in the next few Years and it will.

  • @SpookyRedz
    @SpookyRedz 24 дні тому +1

    Just about the entire field is Cheating with their Video game Cheater Box , getting spots from others is considered cheating but allowing the anglers to use this New Tech is not , well I call BS , ban the cheater box fishing

  • @MarkoMygun
    @MarkoMygun 23 дні тому

    Breaking the rules is a choice not an accident. I think they should either not allow FFS or split the Elite series. One series that allows it and one that doesn't. I love to fish but I love the excitement of looking for structure and not knowing what might happen if I cast to it. But I'm 65 so I'm old school I guess,but I'm not really a techy guy either. I love the suspense of fish blind ,the maybe , the not knowing , what do they want. Even if I had the REDICULOUS amount of money that FFS costs I still wouldn't buy it. Thanks for the video 👋

  • @joetucker63
    @joetucker63 24 дні тому +1

    at the very least, failing to pass truth verification should be a 5 year suspension! and MLF allows the culling of dead bass!!!!

  • @ronaldstewart3400
    @ronaldstewart3400 24 дні тому +1

    Its not just bass fishing with this younger generation,its all works of trade,they are lazy and cry anytime they have to do there job,its sad

  • @buzzwilliams8387
    @buzzwilliams8387 25 днів тому +1

    If you are a young guy on the pro tours, and you rely on electronics, it is not a great leap to think that cheating to get info is A-OK.

  • @wadehobaugh3542
    @wadehobaugh3542 23 дні тому

    You can watch social media, just cant talk with someone about info. logging in to a website means its not public info

  • @rickyreynolds9056
    @rickyreynolds9056 23 дні тому

    Younger generation don’t have the morals of the older guy’s or haven’t been taught that in their upbringing nowadays. That can only change in the homes but I do agree that FFS is ruining the sport and is not fair to the guy’s that have spent most of their lives perfecting their methods of fishing! I think these guys watching these screens should be watching these goats 🐐 and learning instead of playing video games! 💪🏻

  • @michaelmott8972
    @michaelmott8972 24 дні тому +1

    Lawyer friend of mine say those test are wrong half the time

  • @danielw2120
    @danielw2120 22 дні тому

    When you have 9 young anglers qualifying for the Elites for no other reason than their use of FFS, this what you're gonna end up with. They paid no dues whatsoever, and they absolutely didn't earn it. This class of anglers went through the opens fishing 100% of the time throwing to marks on FFS screens. When they knew they qualified they used the time they had to aquire all the info they could. They bought numbers, info and hired guides. It boils down to this as long as you have FFS this is going to continue period. They have literally no foundation of bass fishing skills and if you take FFS away from them they couldn't catch a cold.

  • @waltergurly4040
    @waltergurly4040 24 дні тому +1

    I couldn't tell you any of the young be so-called pro's. That have been in the sport less then 5 years

  • @dawnottman1945
    @dawnottman1945 23 дні тому

    No ethics, integrity or honesty with a few bad apples. Shameful and sad.

  • @ct9737
    @ct9737 24 дні тому

    I was there Marshaling and never heard anything,I watched him launch his boat

  • @stanleychestnut2098
    @stanleychestnut2098 24 дні тому

    I couldn’t agree more. There should be a Bass master rookie league where they have to prove their self without LS before jumping into, say the elites. (Beings LS is not getting band on the tour.)

  • @guitarhiker4449
    @guitarhiker4449 24 дні тому

    Followed bassmaster many years now but never knew about this rule in particular. I knew about polygraphs in different leagues. I can see the slight worry too cause he ran a 100+ miles to another spot which could seem a little sketchy too but... Was he untruthful or not? Polys aren't always right but maybe their was more to this story? I sure hope he was playing fair. I hope they all are. We are def living in the age of technology. Its getting hard to keep up sometimes. Lol.. Just put in the time on the water and it will pay off. Fish on fellas and ladies!

  • @TrueLifeChit
    @TrueLifeChit 23 дні тому

    Take Livescope and Forward Facing Sonar out the Proffesional circut period because its not fishing its catching....!

  • @DanVillars-j3g
    @DanVillars-j3g 22 дні тому

    why is a bassmaster offical selling way points? how is that legal or Ethical? how is the offical still an offical?

  • @davelerner8461
    @davelerner8461 25 днів тому

    I recently saw a video from a young pro angler named Cody Huff and he was talking about how "it's really not that complicated' and he's got his head bent down looking at his Livescope. At one point he says one of his best tactics is to drop an "old school worm" down to the fish, I thought it was SO IRONIC coming from a livescoper.

  • @Juan_Mattos
    @Juan_Mattos 25 днів тому

    We can’t pin the success of the rookie class specifically on Live Scope; we have had this debate since the flasher came out in the 90’s…. But yes, they all need to learn a lot about the rules and the history of the sport.

  • @givemeabreakdoc
    @givemeabreakdoc 24 дні тому

    Fished a tournament yesterday. Small river, nobody uses electronics. Now, one guy just got a cheater box. Middle of the road, every now and then, he does good. First tournament with the cheat box? Wins the tournament, with big fish.

  • @rmillerlima
    @rmillerlima 23 дні тому

    I guess JT just wasn't good enough buddies with the boss To get it overlooked

  • @user-sq4dh9ni2z
    @user-sq4dh9ni2z 25 днів тому +1

    Flatbrimmers attitude.....why work for it? Spotlighting, buying info, snagging fish. BAN FFS and most all of the fishing thugs will fade away.

  • @kevindavis3146
    @kevindavis3146 25 днів тому +2

    Just turned off bassmaster on tv...cant watch the video game version of real fishing. Not exciting at all....ffs has to go......

  • @robinroberts3804
    @robinroberts3804 23 дні тому

    The people who administer polygraph tests can be as professional as ever, but the subject decides the result. There's a reason polygraphs are not admissible in court. They can be cheated very easily, AND, failed very easily ( stress and outside surcumstances). You have this guy convicted based on a polygraph? It is an antiquated rule. I'm convinced polygraphs are used in the sport to give some sense of fairness because there isn't anything else.
    As far as FFS, these "young people" are just taking advantage of the technology that is available to everyone. Now adays, kids come out of the womb able to navigate a cell phone.
    I watched his explanation, seems at least as sincere as a polygraph.
    When it comes right down to it, this is a job and you are working for an organization. It is right to hold those that came before you with reverence, but like any job, the individual decides his fate.

  • @toddaldrich1936
    @toddaldrich1936 22 дні тому

    When you fish Bass Federation state club .You end up fishing as a team and everyone is sharing waypoints spots and technics. Pros not all there cracked up to be. Fished against one he in CT all the time . Never placed on local lakes ,made the Elite series because he had a great sponsor like Foxwoods. Thats all you need .I believe Elites at one time were invitation only. Rich college kids is what they wanted .Probably have college teams paying dues to Bassmaster. No money in Casting kids. They have been given all there info from youtube to Bassmaster magazines to Bass Universities and coaches .Of course there better. About time Bass grabed there balls! This is not club fishing .

  • @vood00b91
    @vood00b91 24 дні тому

    This all goes back to how they are raised. They were raised that everyone gets a trophy. Cheat to win is ok. Thats the generation we have now. Its our fault for not raising them to learn how to lose with dignity. No spankings no punishments just praise here is your results.

  • @allencasal2715
    @allencasal2715 24 дні тому

    Well said

  • @Fishingin290
    @Fishingin290 25 днів тому +27

    Purity of the Sport, that's out the window once they allowed FFS...

    • @mr.t306
      @mr.t306 25 днів тому +4

      Thats what the guy holding a cane pole sitting on the bank said too.

    • @CSwivel
      @CSwivel 25 днів тому +3

      But all the others like 2d, side image ect are pure? Lmfao

    • @CBGRTR
      @CBGRTR 24 дні тому +2

      ​@@CSwiveland mapping and spot lock TMs and 21 foot boats with 250 hp motors let's ban it all 🙄 you know how many fish I've caught just using SI ? Ain't nothing natural in fishing anymore

    • @Fishingin290
      @Fishingin290 24 дні тому +1

      @@CSwivel when you see 100% of professional anglers ALL staring down and their FFS screen ALL day, I would said laugh all you want, it’s a crutch and slap in the face of any fishing. What a joke.. take ffs away, we’ll see real fisherman back fishing elite and these rookies that depend on it will be back fishing local tournaments.. WALL-E of fishing!

    • @Fishingin290
      @Fishingin290 24 дні тому

      @@CBGRTR just dumb, you guys act like these professional guys aren’t just starring all day at a monitor.. that all they do!!!

  • @astrophysicistguy
    @astrophysicistguy 25 днів тому +8

    I've been saying this for years but it obviously bears repeating .. tournament fishing is just one big s$#t show. Randy loves to ask the question: name me one good thing that FFS has done to help save our fisheries ... I'll wait. Well I have a question for him: Name me one good thing tournament fishing has done to help save our fisheries? I'll wait ... the answer to this problem is quite simple: tournament fishing should be banned, period

    • @DennisMorgan-ls8sc
      @DennisMorgan-ls8sc 25 днів тому +1

      Nailed it. What hipocracy...

    • @StephenKovatch-w3w
      @StephenKovatch-w3w 25 днів тому +1

      It has really gotten out of control so many tournaments, so many organizations, doesn't anyone bass fishing for fun anymore?
      Tournaments, especially during the spawn and the amount of them are ruining my local lake in Ct.-Candlewood.
      It's crazy just so you can go wave your fish in front of your fellow anglers and beat your chest.
      Very very very few are making any money with the tournaments.
      Just ruining the fisheries

    • @ronaldcriss9734
      @ronaldcriss9734 25 днів тому +1

      Catch and release is a standard practice now, because of tournament fishing.

    • @jamessipes122
      @jamessipes122 24 дні тому

      Agree, no more tournaments period.

    • @astrophysicistguy
      @astrophysicistguy 24 дні тому

      @@StephenKovatch-w3w absolutely! Fishing was originally just a recreational activity and there was never a good reason to turn it into a competitive one. Many of those that I've meet who fish tournaments are just guys who are frustrated that they were never athletic enough to compete is real competitive sports like football, baseball, basketball, tennis or golf so now they turn to tournament fishing any many of them harbor this secret desire to become a "pro". As someone who ran an offshore blue water charter fishing business for many years I can tell you that the only real professional fisherman are guides and charter captains whose primary income comes from that.

  • @BassKat169
    @BassKat169 23 дні тому

    Randy what do you expect from a kid who has everything handed to them by dad’s money ?.
    Integrity is a product from hard work. These guys don’t see anything wrong with buying waypoints..
    Working hard finding your own spots doesn’t even cross their minds. They’ve benefited from someone else’s hard work all their lives.
    Glad to see at least one them face some consequences for a change !!!