If you have ever queued up at immigration getting into the USA, and the childish manner in which the security people boss you around in these queues, then the EU countries are a breeze.
She’s being ever, so, British isn’t she, admitting that the UK chose one menu, and not understanding that she can’t have something from another menu. Good old cherry picking… she’ll be demanding the government send gunboats next 😂
They've just stated it, the EU will be a piece of cake compared to the US which is over the top as per usual with the US, NATO yet millions still travel there.
Well that had you told Julia. I have just been to Barcelona, my second home and i have to queue for bloody hours every time I go there. It’s not them being pissy, it’s the uk government saying they wanted third party status so we are treated like US and Australian citizens. We wanted it, they’re delivering.
My friend has a second home in Barcelona and it's never been an issue for him or his family. He visits regularly. Perhaps they don't like the look of you?
@@gerhard7323 well if that’s the case they must line the passengers up before I land because the queue always stretches out of immigration and down the corridor. It also depends on what terminal your friend flies in to. If it’s terminal 1 where I always arrive then you have all the international long haul arrivals so stand more chance of getting stuck behind a non EU or Schengen flight whereas terminal 2 is a low cost terminal with many of its flights originating in the Schengen zone.
Julia Hartley-Brewer calls Simon Calder a Remoaner. She was moaning when we were in she's moaning now we're out. The hypocrisy is staggering. Moaning (needing someone to blame) is what Brexiteers are all about. I know far too many.
I totally agree. Typical recent conversation. I say “I am not really a Remainer, I voted remain because no one could tell me any detail about what ‘leave’ actually meant. I wasn’t going to vote for something that vague” then I follow up with “what convinced you”. The reply is often one of the total fiction newspaper headlines from the 15 years prior to the vote. A very recent reply was “The EU had banned all English varieties of apple so we all had to eat golden delicious”. I didn’t know what to say that wouldn’t have ended a friendship. No matter how politely you say “unfortunately that was down to the Uk shopping public not being patriotic enough to buy British apples in the 70s and 80s, and the shelf life and shelf consistency being demanded by UK supermarkets, nothing to do with the EU”. In my experience, the truth gets responded to with anger.
Is it really that difficult to understand: if you belong to the EU, you are treated like an EU citizen. If you don't belong to the EU, then you are treated like someone who is not an EU citizen. The British have decided to stop being EU citizens. This means that they are treated in exactly the same way as all other people who are not EU citizens. What on earth is the point of not understanding that?
but we do not treat there citizens the same way we have not added rules designed for one thing only to make uk citizens lives harder to punish for brexit pettiness of the highest order
When you travel by car you cross borders in Europe without trouble -on most cross border roads there isn't even anyone to check and the by roads are far more interesting...z
Do you guys remember why you started calling people "remoaners"? Wasn't it cause they kept saying things would be worse, that you were being lied to about nothing changing, remember ohhh project fear?
We chose to leave the single market because we wanted to end freedom of movement. Now Brexiters want freedom of movement back….but only when it suits THEM. We opted to become a Third Country. So we are treated as one. Seems fair enough to me.
In a nutshell, the democratic majority of the UK voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, declining, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.
@@willsmith39 sorry to hear that you struggle so much with English. I read it once and immediately understood that he had accidentally typed "explains" rather than "explaining ". If you still don't understand it after making this substitution then I am really sorry but I really can't help you.
Yep, it's a primary school level insult that they didn't have the wit to create themselves & they deploy it like it's the ultimate "gotcha" not realising that most grown-ups grew out of that sort of name calling before they turned 10
Well we should take a leaf out of their book and check and stamp their passports. Very slowly. Why should they use our E-gates we are not in the eu and want to protect our borders.
She cannot comprehend that the EU club has rules and we no longer belong in the club, it appears she doesn't know a lot of restrictions are due to national govts not the EU.
@@flitsertheo Exactly, there was no negociated deal to vote for. And for many "A hard/no deal Brexit" meant that they wouldn´t have to follow any rules at all, just roam around in the EU freely.
52% voted for Soft Brexit, Hard Brexit, No Deal and anything in between..... quite how that got mixed up with being democratic process is anyone's guess!! Now we have confirmation that Boris had no clue what he had done or what to do!! Little England will take down the Union and our economy until common sense returns
Two points I would raise 1. Going to USA the queues can sometimes be extreme and slow. 2 . Hartley-Brewer would not give Simon Caulder the time to explain the situation as it really is and how the Government chose to deal with our 3rd country status.
Julia seems to think we could keep all the benefits of being in the EU - whilst making it clear we wanted to leave! Talk about wanting your cake and eat it! We gave up prosperity and ease of travel for 'sovereignty' - how's that gone Julia????
@@Trylobyte Again don't bring the U.S. into this eefffing conversation, we don't care if you visit us or care about your sovereignty you do just fine in screwing it up, you don't need our help.
@@stevejones2310 "He kept saying this is what we voted for, which is sort of true and not true at the same time."? No, it is completely and utterly true. This chaos at Dover and other Channel ports, which is guaranteed to get worse when the EU brings in its new biometric control and ETIAS systems, is an inevitable result of the UK VOTING to become a 'Third Country'. The possibility that you might not have understood this before you voted is neither here nor there.
Britain voted to leave the EU. That means leaving all the perks of being EU members behind. This scandalized “We don’t want this” routine is intellectually dishonest.
@@ezioauditore3128 Go for it. The EU lost their extra rights too. Allowing EU citizens perks while not negotiating the same in return for British citizens is a failure of the government.
The single market is for goods, not people. What is at stake here is freedom of movement. And the UK government specifically wanted to terminate it. Which was done. Another type of Brexit was possible, but was ruled out by the UK government.
I loved the confident grin on his face as he put Julia to rights. She did what all Brexiters do when confronted with real facts: Become belligerent and strident. Malone is a case in point.
Some people will never learn that things cut both ways. You can't restrict other people's freedom for your country and claim your own freedom everywhere. British ( mainly English ) exceptionalism.
Julia Hartley really believes that the EU signaled the British out, no they didn’t. Brexit deal meant out of freedom of movement. It’s worse for EU citizens who now need a passport which is an extra cost. I’m brit living in Belgium and can travel to any EU country with my id card. To have an id card we have to give in our facial and fingerprint’s. It’s to expensive for me to get a passport for a city trip. Hartley’s comparison with the US is nonsense. It’s an additional inconvenience when it’s high season.
As this woman says, the British people voted for Brexit. This is one of the consequences of the form of Brexit the UK governments negotiated with us. Not happy with it? Ask your government: these rules are not meant for British people entering the EU, they are meant for ALL non EU people entering the EU. One last thing: the decision to have tighter checks for people entering the EU were taken when the UK was still an EU member state. So the British governments knew about it. My question is: knowing these rules were coming and knowing it would have to apply to British citizens, why didn’t the British governments created the necessary infrastructures in Dover to deal with it? Democracy is allowing people to make sovereign choices but also requires the consequences of these choices to be accepted.
@shaun lynch no we didnt, no such thing. What often happened is we just got waved through - the passport numbers were already disclosed by the airline, the police knew who was arriving.
@@problemofcommons775 No. You are lying. I travelled extensively throughout the EU for years. I have several UK passports going back decades. No stamps from any EU country. We had to show passports at immigration, but they were just glanced at and handed back.
Ye. Voted for this that's a fact no point in complaining about it now or blaming the EU or anybody else some day people in the UK will realise brexit has destroyed their country
They are seeking asylum so they don’t need one Carl. Of course when we were in the EU we had a legal right to send them back to the first safe country, now we don’t. Something else that the brexit voters didn’t fully understand.
@@stephenjon3502 Anyone who is LEGALLY seeking asylum uses documentation to prove their identity, they also prove their country of origin and the source of the persecution that they are fleeing. They also use one of the legal avenues. What they do not do is destroy all evidence that could identify them; they do not come here in an inflatable boat and they definitely do not leave their wives and children in the 'hell hole' that they are fleeing.
@@jamesfowler7403 You can only blame the bullshitters for the last decade. A complete load of nonsense and waste of time and money that was the Referendum James.
5:30 Ms Brewer says "That's the thing...countries should make it easier to travel, spend money, go to restaurants...". Yes, Ms Brewer. That's called a single market. When you sign up for a free trade zone you take the whole package, you do not get to cherry pick. How do so many people get to Florida? Have you been to the US??? You can spend over an hour in the immigration line if you hit a busy period. I'm off to Miami next weekend and I'm dreading the immigration line. We voted for it in a democratic vote? Interesting interpretation. The old folks who voted for it are dying off so they will never get to suffer the worst consequences of their mistake. The 16 year olds who (unlike the Scottish Referendum) were denied the chance to vote on their futures are now voting age but are stuck with a disastrous decision that they mostly disagreed with.
@@rockerjim8045 No idea what she's thinking frankly. She's on a different planet. We don't need to go Schengen to solve the problem. It's not clear to me we can solve it without going back into the single market. But doing that would solve all sort of problems, not just passport queues.
I am European and I do not even notice when I drive from my country to another EU member state, the only sign of a border is a welcome billboard on the side of the road.
Brexiteers never miss an opportunity to make a fool of themselves. Hey Julia - why not encourage your followers to visit Ireland instead. Free movement, no hassles!
I really wish TalkTv would stop these silly clickbait "furious" type headlines for their videos. Simon Calder is never furious. He's the nicest man in the world and this was a very light hearted exchange of views.
Why does Julia have a problem understanding or remembering the Brexit vote. The UK left, it was our democratic decision. BJ who was leading this Brexit has a father SJ who now has a French passport and BJ admits he didn’t have a f#@+king plan or clue. The Uak brought this on themselves and we cry our mascara down to our knickers but it’s not going to make any difference. The UK needs to accept the consequences of its actions and get over itself, wanting to be special.
"TAKE BACK CONTROL OF OUR BORDERS!!!!". Ok. EU can take back control of it's borders, in relation to UK nationals. Brexit = no single market = no free movement of people = third country status = scrutiny at borders (Except Ireland because of the CTA agreement)
A good point going through the E gate yesterday if people feed their passport in wrong there's a problem and someone will always make a mistake get flustered which will hold up the line...
In 2015 Chicago I really didn’t think USA was gonna let me out of the room. My eyeball/passport machine took more than three times to get a good shot and shine green. “Go” That’s scary when your citizenship is desided by a computer camera.
@Nickel1147 What special treatment are you taking about? Around 2 years ago the british airport border keept me and checked me at your border. I knew he should not do that because I am ILR but I let him to see what he is " about ". Your security keept me around 10 minutes at your border, and I was ready in my mind that, if this guys keep me more I was ready to call the Romanian Ambasy. He did not had any right to keept me there as I am permanent resident in UK almost 10 years. So don't tell me about special treatment for European citizens. 😂
I go back and forward to Spain regularly with my Spanish wife. She usually takes longer to get through the eGate at Alicante airport than I do in the cattle queue
Those eGates at Alicante are a pain in the bum, I always try to join the cattle queue with my British passport but get nobbled and escorted to the eGates. The guy in the booth behind then stamps it (actually he doesn’t because I show him my TIE residency card).
If the alternative is the brexit hating remoaner rejoiner open up the borders labour party 🤔 what do you think the red wall thinks , like they did in Dec 2019 I think.
I travel all over the world almost constantly for work and pleasure and I often queue for hours, especially in the Far East, in places like Thailand, but no one complains. It's just part of the journey!
Yes but that's not that Far East, that's SE Asia which by and large is far less developed than European countries and let's face it, they do complain but you probably can't understand the languages spoken in that area of the world.
I can travel all over Europe (both EU and non EU countries) Turkey and parts of North Africa with my EU ID card. But to set foot on that little soggy island in the North Sea I need to buy a passport. So if you treat us like a 3rd country, get used to queueing when you want to entre ours.
I disagree Julia...we voted to leave the EU altogether. And that meant everything that goes with it. How the EU treat our people at passport control is THEIR right...as usual the british side won't do the same because we want to make it easy for them and ourselves. We COULD go that route but that's the british way to treat the EU citizens...the EU have no obligation to make things easy for us. I'm a leaver so I'm not sticking up for a remoaner side of the argument. What bothers me and a lot of brexiteers is for some bizarre reason that has NEVER been explained is we have to keep people who come to this country WITHOUT passports. How the hell does that make ANY sense???
Esteemed travel correspondent makes points to try and inform the public. Is called a 'remoaner' by TV show host with no education on the matter. How is it that she's got a platform to voice her nonsense on?
It's always worthwhile to do a cost-benefit analysis. Travel chaos (or at least inconvenience), devaluation of the pound, food shortages, 6% addition to inflation, massive drop in inward investment, £100 billion loss in production, and £40 billion loss in tax revenue, are just some of the costs of Brexit - but, to the ordinary punter, there are NO BENEFITS.
@Michael Kelly it hasn't put an end to it they're just to lazy to fill out the forms It's hilarious that remoaners always moan that we can no longer live work or study within an EU member country, when in reality it's not it's a little bit harder to do but if the journey to the EU countries is worth it then so is the extra bit of form filling Me I know of a few people who have lived and worked in the EU since leaving and they've never had any issues Basically the only one's complaining are those that voted for remain
Ridiculous. Now that we have achieved the uncompromising hard Brexit the entire country voted for there is no good reason why anyone should want to leave this green and pleasant land. Therefore the government should do the right thing, withdraw all passports, pull up the drawbridge and permanently seal all our borders.
Travelled to Italy from Turkey where I am resident and UK citizen passport holder - I expected to queue up after Brexit but was waved through the E gate and stamped
@@stephenwalsh4392 On a weekend trip to Bordeaux I queued for 2 hours in passport control while EU citizens were waved through, there are no certainties for UK passport holders when travelling in the EU anymore!
Unfortunately not many people understand how the EU works . I'm an EU citizen from a non Schengen country. When I travelled from a Schengen country into my country or out of my country in a Schengen area my passport needed to be checked. If it's a busy period of the year you can be stuck at the borders for hours. They need to check your passport,but not to put any stamps. They have a look in your car boot and maybe ask for your car documents. That takes time, a couple of minutes per car, depending on the number of passengers. UK was not part of Schengen so the same thing happened at the point of entry. It was quick sometimes because border control was waiving you through. But now the UK is out of the EU and Single Market so border control needs to put a stamp on that passport. It takes time and when a high volume of people travel at the same time delays occur. I still don't understand why the UK border controls are not implementing EU passport lanes so all EU passport holders can be waived through quickly so the volume of passports that need to be checked is lowered so a bit quicker.
@@Loosehead wow. Never heard about the status of a third state now? You can google it. Passports have to been stamped to assure, you cant stay for more than 90 days in 180 days. Stamping takes time. Wait till the biometrics and fingerprints taken come in place.
@@Loosehead Border controls are checking your passport if it's still valid and it's yours, you didn't overstated your 90 days in EU from the 180 days. This is done through the stamp that you got when you return from your last trip in the EU. Required by EU law they should check your boot for any animal products like dairy and meats products that are not allowed. Car paperwork is inspected, your driving licence, insurance and mot certificate. They can ask you for proof of accommodation and if you have enough money with you to live for the period you are visiting the EU. All this takes time and as I said in my previous post ,high volume of traffic creates long queues. I traveled plenty of times through Dover with my car, the french border control waived me because of the EU passport,then the UK border control checked passports and asked questions about my travel plans in the EU and questions about my car that had british number plates . The car had 5 people so all this was around 5 minutes. Do some math and you will find that there's not enough time in a day for everyone. Unfortunately the UK is not in the EU anymore so all the rules that previous did not apply , apply now for UK Travelers. We just need to get used to it and stop blaming everyone else. I'm still amazed by the customs officers that they manage in the time they do. You can see that if the French wanted to play by the book the waiting time would be days not hours. Hope this explains it.
Which sums up the situation exactly - the problem is caused by the EU! Back in the 70s I travelled on holiday with my parents to France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands and Switzerland without any issues caused by passport checks. Main issues were always weather delays on the ferries!
@@andersonross3665 Not sure if you're serious or playing for laughs, but here we go anyway. 1. THE UK left the EU, so logically they lose the privileges of membership (like easier entry/exit) . This is somewhat obscured by the fact that UK didn't join the Schengen area so there were checks but not as thorough as nowadays where you're out. 2. I also travelled with my parents as a teenager in the 60`s and 70`s and indeed the border times were shorter - what you're missing is that the volume was tiny so the number of checks was far far lower. 3. She kept mentioning that the referendum was "democratic". If so, why were the participation rules different than for normal elections? At the time I was a UK citizen living in the EU (one of the groups most affected by this - but also a group who all would have voted Remain) and I didn't have a vote. The whole thing was manipulated but that's what you get when you don't have a formal Constitution. Ah well.... seems there's no going back now - that said, I am perfectly happy with my German ID card now (much more practical than having to carry a book/passport around with you) and enjoy watching from the outside. As you may know we Scots have a different Education system .... maybe that's why more of us voted to Remain, because we were taught to understand things :-)
it's because the UK's position is indefensible: actions have consequences, and a consequence of voting for Brexit is that you have to abide by the same laws as any other third country. Why should the UK retain any of the privileges of being in the EU as they made it quite clear they did not want to be in it
ater this year, WTO required, checks on our imports from Europe will begin. Even arch Brexiters have agreed that these checks will be "an act of self harm" Food will become much more expensive, it's supply will also be reduced by quite a lot, causing even worse shortages, probably increasing the need for security staff in supermarkets, shops and high streets. As you know, jobs are being lost throughout Great Britain at an alarming rate, you will all know somebody that has worked constantly all thier life now made unemployed. this has been accelerating rapidly since 2016. In the last 6 or 7 years, the UK has become poorer, the economy has shrunk much more than other peer states, is the worst performing country in Europe and has been laughed at by more people around this planet than even North Korea. Good luck Englanders, I'm off to a much more forward thinking place.
no, Simon, I am not aware of anyone who said "I want to be treated as a third country national". None. I am aware of many people who can't understand why British citizens were trusted to the point of being allowed freedom of movement in the EU a few years ago, but the same British citizens now must be treated the same as someone just arrived from Bolivia. Makes no sense. Portugal has the right approach.
@@kristianvelle5637 which bit of his statement was whining? I’ve read it and you are just inserting a meaning that simply isn’t there. Nice try but nil points.
@@kristianvelle5637 Can you explain why the UK government agreed to allowing 180 days for EU citizens whilst we get only 90? Whether pro or anti Brexit the lack of reciprocity - whoever's fault it is - is simply unfair. Either reduce the EU's citizens' rights or increase ours.
You voted to leave. That vote included leaving the single market. Leaving the single market meant an end to free movement of people. End of free movement of people means third country status. This was evident to all, except, it seeems, people who voted for Brexit. That ignorance is nobodies fault but your own.
Never had a problem when I go to the little Greek island I travel to every year. There are no E-gates there anyway and they have always checked your passport. The only difference now is that they stamp your passport. I think I can cope with the extract few seconds it takes for that.
I assume that those few seconds multiplied by say 300 people on that plane are not a problem if they have enough booths. France asked Dover/UK for double the staff and double the facilities. Since it is on English soil they cannot build them themselves. Plus we are talking about tens of thousands of people.
The main problems are at Dover not at airports. It's when thousands of people turn up at peak times at the port, including coaches, cars, camper vans, caravans and freight. It's a bottle neck and the border control can't cope. Did nobody think of this issue?
Should the government negotiate with the EU to allow people to use e-gates?
Leave it as it is, the money will talk if countries want to make it difficult we won't go they will lose out.
No
No. If countries want to be petty and put tourists off then that’s their business
@@icarus877 exactly
Absolutely not,we should reciprocate,everything they do against us,we should follow suit.they need us more than we need them period.
If you have ever queued up at immigration getting into the USA, and the childish manner in which the security people boss you around in these queues, then the EU countries are a breeze.
Try China - it takes 23 hours to get out of the airport on a 24 hour visa...
She’s being ever, so, British isn’t she, admitting that the UK chose one menu, and not understanding that she can’t have something from another menu. Good old cherry picking… she’ll be demanding the government send gunboats next 😂
What is your point?
90 mins plus at Logan Airport Boston. JHB is talking nonsense
They've just stated it, the EU will be a piece of cake compared to the US which is over the top as per usual with the US, NATO yet millions still travel there.
Well that had you told Julia. I have just been to Barcelona, my second home and i have to queue for bloody hours every time I go there. It’s not them being pissy, it’s the uk government saying they wanted third party status so we are treated like US and Australian citizens. We wanted it, they’re delivering.
My friend has a second home in Barcelona and it's never been an issue for him or his family.
He visits regularly.
Perhaps they don't like the look of you?
@@gerhard7323 well if that’s the case they must line the passengers up before I land because the queue always stretches out of immigration and down the corridor. It also depends on what terminal your friend flies in to. If it’s terminal 1 where I always arrive then you have all the international long haul arrivals so stand more chance of getting stuck behind a non EU or Schengen flight whereas terminal 2 is a low cost terminal with many of its flights originating in the Schengen zone.
@@psrpippy Vueling or EasyJet from Gatwick. T1.
You could apply for an Irish Passport you can have Both British and Irish all my Cousins have and they live in Fulham.
@@djbillybopdjbillybop2817 i wish i could but I’d have to prove Irish ancestry and I don’t have it
Julia Hartley-Brewer calls Simon Calder a Remoaner. She was moaning when we were in she's moaning now we're out. The hypocrisy is staggering. Moaning (needing someone to blame) is what Brexiteers are all about. I know far too many.
Obviously your English is on the poor side or easily confused.
There's plenty of them, more's the pity
Hartley brewer moaning🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
I totally agree. Typical recent conversation. I say “I am not really a Remainer, I voted remain because no one could tell me any detail about what ‘leave’ actually meant. I wasn’t going to vote for something that vague” then I follow up with “what convinced you”. The reply is often one of the total fiction newspaper headlines from the 15 years prior to the vote. A very recent reply was “The EU had banned all English varieties of apple so we all had to eat golden delicious”. I didn’t know what to say that wouldn’t have ended a friendship. No matter how politely you say “unfortunately that was down to the Uk shopping public not being patriotic enough to buy British apples in the 70s and 80s, and the shelf life and shelf consistency being demanded by UK supermarkets, nothing to do with the EU”. In my experience, the truth gets responded to with anger.
Just like gobby malone.
This woman is nuts! She wants the uk to be independent and self governed but everyone else to do as the uk says. Julia, enjoy your Brexit!
Is it really that difficult to understand: if you belong to the EU, you are treated like an EU citizen. If you don't belong to the EU, then you are treated like someone who is not an EU citizen.
The British have decided to stop being EU citizens. This means that they are treated in exactly the same way as all other people who are not EU citizens. What on earth is the point of not understanding that?
the woman is a arrogant/pompous ass beloved of the silly public in lil england ! rule brittania ha ha . ALBA GU BRATH
but we do not treat there citizens the same way we have not added rules designed for one thing only to make uk citizens lives harder to punish for brexit pettiness of the highest order
treated as scum. as the eurinal treats its own slaves sorry citizens
When you travel by car you cross borders in Europe without trouble -on most cross border roads there isn't even anyone to check and the by roads are far more interesting...z
But I am privilegeeeeeeeed
Do you guys remember why you started calling people "remoaners"? Wasn't it cause they kept saying things would be worse, that you were being lied to about nothing changing, remember ohhh project fear?
She never admits that she got it wrong. Her vanity and pride is far more important to preserve.
Silly little fascist. She needs removing off the airwaves. Just sells hatred and racist views
That's her skill
@@CBWMSJR being an out an out facist? Tell me about it
We chose to leave the single market because we wanted to end freedom of movement. Now Brexiters want freedom of movement back….but only when it suits THEM. We opted to become a Third Country. So we are treated as one. Seems fair enough to me.
Dear Brits, you should not expect to have your cake and eat it. Didn‘t your government say that ‚Brexit means Brexit‘?
Dear brexit voters.
Fixed it for you.
and that Brexit was done
In a nutshell Simon explains what the phrase "You don't know what you voted for" actually means
Did Remainers know what they voted for ?
In a nutshell, the democratic majority of the UK voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, declining, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.
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I've read this three times and I don't understand what your comment actually means. Could we have it in English please ?
@@willsmith39 sorry to hear that you struggle so much with English. I read it once and immediately understood that he had accidentally typed "explains" rather than "explaining ". If you still don't understand it after making this substitution then I am really sorry but I really can't help you.
When a remainer is called "remoaner" just about sums up the inteligence and lack of an arguement of these people.
Yep, it's a primary school level insult that they didn't have the wit to create themselves & they deploy it like it's the ultimate "gotcha" not realising that most grown-ups grew out of that sort of name calling before they turned 10
Still upset. Grow up !
@@TheMilford99You bet i am upset. The country has been f*cked by you brexit morons.
Remoaner 😂😂😂😂
So sovereignty doesn't work both ways in Brexit land. How dare EU countries use their sovereignty to protect their borders.
It is because Brexit is a scam
Well we should take a leaf out of their book and check and stamp their passports. Very slowly. Why should they use our E-gates we are not in the eu and want to protect our borders.
@@sparkels1000apparently we hold all the cards ..
@@sparkels1000well said..
Poor lady, still does not understand what she voted for.
She cannot comprehend that the EU club has rules and we no longer belong in the club, it appears she doesn't know a lot of restrictions are due to national govts not the EU.
It's like giving up your gym membership but still expecting to use the gym.
Loving the ever present "We didn´t vote for this!!!" 🤣
You couldn`t make this insanity up, couldn`t you.
They only voted for the benefits. Unfortunately no benefits have been found yet (not for the UK anyway).
@@flitsertheo Exactly, there was no negociated deal to vote for. And for many "A hard/no deal Brexit" meant that they wouldn´t have to follow any rules at all, just roam around in the EU freely.
52% voted for Soft Brexit, Hard Brexit, No Deal and anything in between..... quite how that got mixed up with being democratic process is anyone's guess!! Now we have confirmation that Boris had no clue what he had done or what to do!! Little England will take down the Union and our economy until common sense returns
Its like marrying an abusing friend, despite being warned, and complaining afterwards, that he is abusing you.
If queueing is your only problem in life, have a word with yourself.
another sad troubled person
Well stated Stuart, very well stated.
It's you bloody Quitters that are moaning the loudest about it....
Nobody said it was their only problem. Dont make things up
You have clearly never watched her channel before if you came away with that impression.
We left the EU but expected to keep the perks of EU membership.
Yet we accuse the EU of being difficult. This is why the UK is a laughing stock.
I don’t consider an e gate in an airport to be a perk 🙄
@@twistedsister2568 You could have left it at “I don’t consider..”
Ok remoaner
Like last year at Dover. ???? Four French customs officers. They did apologise three days later. This year go slow action.
@@ianreid oh are you a rejoicer after brexit? Do tell us what's good about brexit, we can't wait........
It's up to the UK what they do, here in the EU you need to follow the rules as you did ask for it, stop moaning brexit means brexit
Two points I would raise 1. Going to USA the queues can sometimes be extreme and slow. 2 . Hartley-Brewer would not give Simon Caulder the time to explain the situation as it really is and how the Government chose to deal with our 3rd country status.
Julia seems to think we could keep all the benefits of being in the EU - whilst making it clear we wanted to leave! Talk about wanting your cake and eat it! We gave up prosperity and ease of travel for 'sovereignty' - how's that gone Julia????
We gave our sovereignty to the US many years ago
@@Trylobyte Again don't bring the U.S. into this eefffing conversation, we don't care if you visit us or care about your sovereignty you do just fine in screwing it up, you don't need our help.
Whenever some fool mentions the word “remoaner” they have lost the argument.
My friend, that is a great point. Spot on.
You lost.
@@The_Mongoose We will be back.
@@The_MongooseThe country lost ! How do you not understand that !!
@@The_Mongoosethe country has lost because brexit was such a stupid idea from day zero, still no benefits found.
Ending freedome of movement works both ways but brexeteers still think they are exeptional!
* freedom * brexiteers * exceptional.
You voted for BREXIT and you got BREXIT what are you complaining about.
Did he moan when he went through passport control in Turkey or does he respect their sovereignty?
UK have to pay for a €5 visa on entry in Turkey.
You do realise Turkey isn’t in the EU. We left the EU not Turkey.
I didn't hear him moaning. He kept saying this is what we voted for, which is sort of true and not true at the same time.
You people are hilarious
@@stevejones2310
"He kept saying this is what we voted for, which is sort of true and not true at the same time."?
No, it is completely and utterly true.
This chaos at Dover and other Channel ports, which is guaranteed to get worse when the EU brings in its new biometric control and ETIAS systems, is an inevitable result of the UK VOTING to become a 'Third Country'.
The possibility that you might not have understood this before you voted is neither here nor there.
Oh, dear! You wanted out of the EU and now you want to be treated as if you are still in the EU. Unbelievable!
"Countries should make it easier to travel" this from a Brexiteer 😅😅😅😅
Yeah, it is laughable.
@@LowPlainsDrifter60 She’s totally deluded but then Brexiteers usually are.
@@stephenjon3502Remoaners tears😢loving it.
Why not.
Don't European countries want to encourage tourism and make the experience as pleasant as possible to encourage people to come back?
@@rick381v69 Think about the irony of this statement coming from a Brexiteer
But the point seems to be that she cant accept the cost of what she thought she wanted
No need to cry Julia it's what you wanted that's life !
I'd hazard a guess that this isn't the Brexit she voted for...
@@gerardjlaw it is irrelevant what sort of Brexit she voted for, none of them could ever be better than being an EU member.
@@edwardbernthal160 Exactly!
@@gerardjlaw I hazard a guess, she like the democratic majority of the UK just wanted out of this anti democratic cesspit.
@@gerardjlaw I'd hazard a guess she just wanted to get rid of some foreigners, but she didn't put any thought into the consequences of her actions.
Britain voted to leave the EU. That means leaving all the perks of being EU members behind. This scandalized “We don’t want this” routine is intellectually dishonest.
Maybe we should remove the 'perk' of the extra 90 days EU citizens get here then? It's fair after all.
@@ezioauditore3128 Go for it. The EU lost their extra rights too. Allowing EU citizens perks while not negotiating the same in return for British citizens is a failure of the government.
@@mccrie407 ".... a failure of government......" well, you gotta admit they have form in this respect....😂
How dare EU countries treat the UK as a 3rd country😂😂
Furious clash ? Just Hartley-brewer railing against the world whilst Calder deploys his ineffable charm to gently inform her
Brewing Fartly will still not accept that we brought this upon ourselves but voting to leave.
The single market is for goods, not people. What is at stake here is freedom of movement. And the UK government specifically wanted to terminate it. Which was done. Another type of Brexit was possible, but was ruled out by the UK government.
Dont mention the facts. Thats so boring 😁.
Brewer totally owned as usual
She couldn't argue with his logic and had to have the voice in her ear tell her how to argue back. Well done Simon. Wake up Brexiters. Please.
I loved the confident grin on his face as he put Julia to rights. She did what all Brexiters do when confronted with real facts: Become belligerent and strident. Malone is a case in point.
Some people will never learn that things cut both ways. You can't restrict other people's freedom for your country and claim your own freedom everywhere. British ( mainly English ) exceptionalism.
yes but we do not do it to them as we are not petty or vindictive like the EUSSR 4th Reich
@@danielspillett5393 we just call them silly names
@@danielspillett5393 but you were told in 2016 there would no cherry picking and then you voted again in 2019 to get brexit done.
@@kjm1059how do you know what he voted 🙄🤷♂️
@@alangordon3283 I think his use of of the 'EUSSR 4th Reich' gives it away a little bit don't you think 🤔
When they have no answer they call you a remoaner
outrageous. You might have to queue for 15 minutes. First world problems.
I've been to Europe many times since Brexit,and have never had a problem,.
Same here twice this year. Travel at peak times expect delays
I’ve flown every month from UK 🇬🇧 to SPAIN 🇪🇸 with out any problems
Tallinn and Gran canaries no problem
Just people like JHB trying to justify their overpaid jobs taking nonsense
I guess the import checks haven’t been a problem either contributing to our 400billion hole in our economy we can’t seem to make up for 🤦♂️
Julia Hartley really believes that the EU signaled the British out, no they didn’t. Brexit deal meant out of freedom of movement. It’s worse for EU citizens who now need a passport which is an extra cost. I’m brit living in Belgium and can travel to any EU country with my id card. To have an id card we have to give in our facial and fingerprint’s. It’s to expensive for me to get a passport for a city trip. Hartley’s comparison with the US is nonsense. It’s an additional inconvenience when it’s high season.
She’s a very angry Karen.
@@stephenjon3502 silly old bag I’d say
Julia has obviously never entered the UK as a foreigner - I've queued for three (3) hours at Heathrow.
Oh its just not fair! Poor Julia, its all too much for her.
As this woman says, the British people voted for Brexit. This is one of the consequences of the form of Brexit the UK governments negotiated with us. Not happy with it?
Ask your government: these rules are not meant for British people entering the EU, they are meant for ALL non EU people entering the EU.
One last thing: the decision to have tighter checks for people entering the EU were taken when the UK was still an EU member state. So the British governments knew about it. My question is: knowing these rules were coming and knowing it would have to apply to British citizens, why didn’t the British governments created the necessary infrastructures in Dover to deal with it?
Democracy is allowing people to make sovereign choices but also requires the consequences of these choices to be accepted.
God, this woman is hopeless. But then, why should we be surprised?!
The UK passport holders in airports always had to queue because we were non Schengen.
@shaun lynch
It wasn't just "flashed passports".
Literally got stamps on my old ones. Lying again
I hate this schengen rule .my freedom has been taken away
Pre brexit i flew to Malaga many times and always had to queue.
@shaun lynch no we didnt, no such thing. What often happened is we just got waved through - the passport numbers were already disclosed by the airline, the police knew who was arriving.
@@problemofcommons775 No. You are lying. I travelled extensively throughout the EU for years. I have several UK passports going back decades. No stamps from any EU country. We had to show passports at immigration, but they were just glanced at and handed back.
Foreigners are getting here without problem. Another punishment for leaving the EU.
Brexsh*t. The gift that keeps on giving.
Ye. Voted for this that's a fact no point in complaining about it now or blaming the EU or anybody else some day people in the UK will realise brexit has destroyed their country
28% of population advised brexit certainly
There should be many more passport checks, starting with everyone who steps off an inflatable boat.
They are seeking asylum so they don’t need one Carl. Of course when we were in the EU we had a legal right to send them back to the first safe country, now we don’t. Something else that the brexit voters didn’t fully understand.
@@stephenjon3502 we had the right but it never actually happened did it?...
@@jamesfowler7403 If it didn't, that wasn't the fault of the EU but of the British government.
@@stephenjon3502 Anyone who is LEGALLY seeking asylum uses documentation to prove their identity, they also prove their country of origin and the source of the persecution that they are fleeing. They also use one of the legal avenues. What they do not do is destroy all evidence that could identify them; they do not come here in an inflatable boat and they definitely do not leave their wives and children in the 'hell hole' that they are fleeing.
@@jamesfowler7403 You can only blame the bullshitters for the last decade. A complete load of nonsense and waste of time and money that was the Referendum James.
5:30 Ms Brewer says "That's the thing...countries should make it easier to travel, spend money, go to restaurants...". Yes, Ms Brewer. That's called a single market. When you sign up for a free trade zone you take the whole package, you do not get to cherry pick. How do so many people get to Florida? Have you been to the US??? You can spend over an hour in the immigration line if you hit a busy period. I'm off to Miami next weekend and I'm dreading the immigration line. We voted for it in a democratic vote? Interesting interpretation. The old folks who voted for it are dying off so they will never get to suffer the worst consequences of their mistake. The 16 year olds who (unlike the Scottish Referendum) were denied the chance to vote on their futures are now voting age but are stuck with a disastrous decision that they mostly disagreed with.
Agreed,but these deluded lunatics don't want to get it 😊
is she suggesting we join the Schengen zone?
@@rockerjim8045 No idea what she's thinking frankly. She's on a different planet. We don't need to go Schengen to solve the problem. It's not clear to me we can solve it without going back into the single market. But doing that would solve all sort of problems, not just passport queues.
I am European and I do not even notice when I drive from my country to another EU member state, the only sign of a border is a welcome billboard on the side of the road.
That's because you are losing your identity. Enjoy your jeans, Hollywood films, nice shiny phones and globalisation.
Brexiteers never miss an opportunity to make a fool of themselves. Hey Julia - why not encourage your followers to visit Ireland instead. Free movement, no hassles!
I really wish TalkTv would stop these silly clickbait "furious" type headlines for their videos.
Simon Calder is never furious. He's the nicest man in the world and this was a very light hearted exchange of views.
It is not fair :-) To quote Mr O’Brien… im no longer a member of the gym, but would still like to use the showers without a membership card.
Brexit: the self-inflicted disaster that dare not speak its name.
English exceptionalism at its finest
We had it easy and we didn’t want it.
The correct title for this video should have been; “Good Natured and Enjoyable Discussion about Passport checks”.
Another Brexit benefit...
Why does Julia have a problem understanding or remembering the Brexit vote. The UK left, it was our democratic decision.
BJ who was leading this Brexit has a father SJ who now has a French passport and BJ admits he didn’t have a f#@+king plan or clue.
The Uak brought this on themselves and we cry our mascara down to our knickers but it’s not going to make any difference.
The UK needs to accept the consequences of its actions and get over itself, wanting to be special.
Oh, for goodness sake! Is this woman ok?
He keeps banging on about we wanted to be scrutinised ................ no evidence at all!!!!
He's a tw%t
That’s what you voted for but you can’t accept that.
"TAKE BACK CONTROL OF OUR BORDERS!!!!". Ok. EU can take back control of it's borders, in relation to UK nationals. Brexit = no single market = no free movement of people = third country status = scrutiny at borders (Except Ireland because of the CTA agreement)
@@kevonslims7269 go join that remoner in Turkey and stay there permanantly
@@kevonslims7269 that's what the country voted for, slim boy soy
Showed your real colours there Simon, and they aint pretty.
In what way?
@@stephenjon3502 he doesn't know.
@@stephenjon3502 He's still whining after 6 years from a democratic vote.
Simon always has a dig at Brexit whenever he is on TV/radio.
He’s regularly on the radio and comes across as an arse🙄
And why not, it’s been a total fuk up.
@@stephenjon3502 Yeah because it's not been delivered properly. Half-baked, half in and half out. That's not what we voted for.
Because the hardest of hard brexits is a complete failure.
@@andrew30m I don't know how you know that because we haven't had a hard Brexit; so how can it be a failure?
It always makes me laugh when they say Europeans this, Europeans that...
Is the UK a separated continent or just a land of ignorants???
The UK voters wanted to be treated as a 3rd party!!!! The UK voted for Brexit not the EU 😂😂😂😂
Go to the USA, Canada Australia etc, you still need to queue no matter what
Never yet been through an E gate that is quicker than having your passport looked at by an official...
A good point going through the E gate yesterday if people feed their passport in wrong there's a problem and someone will always make a mistake get flustered which will hold up the line...
In 2015 Chicago I really didn’t think USA was gonna let me out of the room. My eyeball/passport machine took more than three times to get a good shot and shine green. “Go”
That’s scary when your citizenship is desided by a computer camera.
And that's even when the E-gates work properly. The ones at Glasgow are painfully unreliable and take multiple attempts.
they never work at Stansted. I always aim for a human so much quicker
When something goes wrong who you going to speak/argue with? The robot?
Simon Calder is a 100% right, the UK opted for a hard Brexit.
She does know UK citizens have to fill out ESTA forms to go to the US.
@Nickel1147 What special treatment are you taking about? Around 2 years ago the british airport border keept me and checked me at your border. I knew he should not do that because I am ILR but I let him to see what he is " about ". Your security keept me around 10 minutes at your border, and I was ready in my mind that, if this guys keep me more I was ready to call the Romanian Ambasy. He did not had any right to keept me there as I am permanent resident in UK almost 10 years. So don't tell me about special treatment for European citizens. 😂
“Brexit means Brexit” - what did you think that meant you silly woman!
If the EU countries don't return the courtesy that's up to them. Calder is a massive remoaner.
They don’t have too..
there's no such thing we left the EU ages ago pointing out the consequences of that action is just highlighting the truth
I didn't say they did @@kevonslims7269 🙄
Funny Jonah, it’s the patriots that haven’t stopped moaning since we left. Those with a few more brain cells weren’t gaslit by the rich.
Name-calling works in modern debates? How sad that the foreign owned media is dragging the UK down.
I go back and forward to Spain regularly with my Spanish wife. She usually takes longer to get through the eGate at Alicante airport than I do in the cattle queue
TRUE AND WELL SAID
Enhorabuena espero que seas muy feliz con tu esposa española
Those eGates at Alicante are a pain in the bum, I always try to join the cattle queue with my British passport but get nobbled and escorted to the eGates. The guy in the booth behind then stamps it (actually he doesn’t because I show him my TIE residency card).
I do too and what es are always much quicker for me with an eu passport. But I have both so pick the smallest queue 🤣
Be careful not to outstay your 90 days.
What on earth is the problem with queuing up to get your passport stamped? We did it before we joined the EEC and we do it now. No goddam problem.
I think its the Uk population increase of 17 million causing the problem. More people = more waiting
Exactly. You voted for queuing and it's what you got.
Well, JHB complains about it.
End freedom of movement. !!
I want to go on holiday !!
I will be interested to know while we are out of the EU if the Tory party ever gets in again.
I doubt it.
If the alternative is the brexit hating remoaner rejoiner open up the borders labour party 🤔 what do you think the red wall thinks , like they did in Dec 2019 I think.
I travel all over the world almost constantly for work and pleasure and I often queue for hours, especially in the Far East, in places like Thailand, but no one complains. It's just part of the journey!
I've always breezed through Bangkok airport.
Yes but that's not that Far East, that's SE Asia which by and large is far less developed than European countries and let's face it, they do complain but you probably can't understand the languages spoken in that area of the world.
Yeah, but English think that they are special in Europe... they forgot that they chose to control their borders but the EU can't control theirs.
Except when the queue backs up in Dover. Then the locals get a bit upset. They did to pipe down in future.
we’ve become very spoilt, entitled & privileged.
I can travel all over Europe (both EU and non EU countries) Turkey and parts of North Africa with my EU ID card. But to set foot on that little soggy island in the North Sea I need to buy a passport. So if you treat us like a 3rd country, get used to queueing when you want to entre ours.
I just love Simon Calder … talks sense
Completely owning the interview, he was superb.
I disagree Julia...we voted to leave the EU altogether. And that meant everything that goes with it. How the EU treat our people at passport control is THEIR right...as usual the british side won't do the same because we want to make it easy for them and ourselves. We COULD go that route but that's the british way to treat the EU citizens...the EU have no obligation to make things easy for us. I'm a leaver so I'm not sticking up for a remoaner side of the argument.
What bothers me and a lot of brexiteers is for some bizarre reason that has NEVER been explained is we have to keep people who come to this country WITHOUT passports. How the hell does that make ANY sense???
Hartley-Brewer is a ringer for Stanley Baxter when in drag. Evokes happy memories of Stanley's Xmas specials.
Brewer is pretty dim. This is what her fellow Brexiteers wanted.
Esteemed travel correspondent makes points to try and inform the public. Is called a 'remoaner' by TV show host with no education on the matter. How is it that she's got a platform to voice her nonsense on?
I think the main problem is that UK export businesses have been ravaged and many of them have either moved over to the EU or have gone
If you leave the Golf Club you won't be going to the Captains Dinner the year following. Simples. Poor Julia she did her best on a reality wicket.
Hartley-Brewer's as thick as mince and still stubbornly supporting the shambles that is brexit.
Well done Simon for not calling her a
It's always worthwhile to do a cost-benefit analysis. Travel chaos (or at least inconvenience), devaluation of the pound, food shortages, 6% addition to inflation, massive drop in inward investment, £100 billion loss in production, and £40 billion loss in tax revenue, are just some of the costs of Brexit - but, to the ordinary punter, there are NO BENEFITS.
Did you write this in 2016 as part of project fear or are you another pathetic remoaner rejoiner?
we have our sovereignty back. That is an amazing benefit
@@rickkarsan4491 is it? Why?
Higher wages for low skilled workers too - insufferable petulance from the lower classes.
@@alvanrigby6361 really low pay wages have gone up equal to inflation?
Evidence required for this unsubstantiated opinion
Been on holiday twice this year ..not a problem
Good for you. Thanks to the Tories ruining the country a lot of people can’t afford one holiday let alone two before April!
@Michael Kelly it hasn't put an end to it they're just to lazy to fill out the forms
It's hilarious that remoaners always moan that we can no longer live work or study within an EU member country, when in reality it's not it's a little bit harder to do but if the journey to the EU countries is worth it then so is the extra bit of form filling
Me I know of a few people who have lived and worked in the EU since leaving and they've never had any issues
Basically the only one's complaining are those that voted for remain
@Codename diamond head. my mum passed away 20 years ago.
@Luke S Wake up. Westminster is rotten. A cross party collection of self serving pigs.
All the same.
You can't have your cake and eat it, the UK voted to leave the EU - fine but don't expect to be treated the same way by EU Countries as before.
Ridiculous. Now that we have achieved the uncompromising hard Brexit the entire country voted for there is no good reason why anyone should want to leave this green and pleasant land. Therefore the government should do the right thing, withdraw all passports, pull up the drawbridge and permanently seal all our borders.
it's great watching the leavers being mad about decisions they made..... and remainers continue to laugh
Travelled to Italy from Turkey where I am resident and UK citizen passport holder - I expected to queue up after Brexit but was waved through the E gate and stamped
Lucy on that occasion but to be lucky all the time you will need an EU passport!.
Roma has special egates for certain third countries, like US, Canada, UK, etc
Just went to Greece - went through passport control in no time at all. Wake up Remoaners, strewth.
@@stephenwalsh4392 On a weekend trip to Bordeaux I queued for 2 hours in passport control while EU citizens were waved through, there are no certainties for UK passport holders when travelling in the EU anymore!
Swings and roundabouts by all accounts. No need for any fuss then.
Unfortunately not many people understand how the EU works . I'm an EU citizen from a non Schengen country. When I travelled from a Schengen country into my country or out of my country in a Schengen area my passport needed to be checked. If it's a busy period of the year you can be stuck at the borders for hours. They need to check your passport,but not to put any stamps. They have a look in your car boot and maybe ask for your car documents. That takes time, a couple of minutes per car, depending on the number of passengers. UK was not part of Schengen so the same thing happened at the point of entry. It was quick sometimes because border control was waiving you through. But now the UK is out of the EU and Single Market so border control needs to put a stamp on that passport. It takes time and when a high volume of people travel at the same time delays occur. I still don't understand why the UK border controls are not implementing EU passport lanes so all EU passport holders can be waived through quickly so the volume of passports that need to be checked is lowered so a bit quicker.
So if you are so knowledgeable, tell us, what are they checking, why does it take so long, and why does it have to be stamped?
@@Loosehead wow. Never heard about the status of a third state now? You can google it.
Passports have to been stamped to assure, you cant stay for more than 90 days in 180 days. Stamping takes time.
Wait till the biometrics and fingerprints taken come in place.
@@Loosehead Border controls are checking your passport if it's still valid and it's yours, you didn't overstated your 90 days in EU from the 180 days. This is done through the stamp that you got when you return from your last trip in the EU. Required by EU law they should check your boot for any animal products like dairy and meats products that are not allowed. Car paperwork is inspected, your driving licence, insurance and mot certificate. They can ask you for proof of accommodation and if you have enough money with you to live for the period you are visiting the EU. All this takes time and as I said in my previous post ,high volume of traffic creates long queues. I traveled plenty of times through Dover with my car, the french border control waived me because of the EU passport,then the UK border control checked passports and asked questions about my travel plans in the EU and questions about my car that had british number plates . The car had 5 people so all this was around 5 minutes. Do some math and you will find that there's not enough time in a day for everyone. Unfortunately the UK is not in the EU anymore so all the rules that previous did not apply , apply now for UK Travelers. We just need to get used to it and stop blaming everyone else. I'm still amazed by the customs officers that they manage in the time they do. You can see that if the French wanted to play by the book the waiting time would be days not hours. Hope this explains it.
Which sums up the situation exactly - the problem is caused by the EU! Back in the 70s I travelled on holiday with my parents to France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands and Switzerland without any issues caused by passport checks. Main issues were always weather delays on the ferries!
@@andersonross3665 Not sure if you're serious or playing for laughs, but here we go anyway. 1. THE UK left the EU, so logically they lose the privileges of membership (like easier entry/exit) . This is somewhat obscured by the fact that UK didn't join the Schengen area so there were checks but not as thorough as nowadays where you're out. 2. I also travelled with my parents as a teenager in the 60`s and 70`s and indeed the border times were shorter - what you're missing is that the volume was tiny so the number of checks was far far lower. 3. She kept mentioning that the referendum was "democratic". If so, why were the participation rules different than for normal elections? At the time I was a UK citizen living in the EU (one of the groups most affected by this - but also a group who all would have voted Remain) and I didn't have a vote. The whole thing was manipulated but that's what you get when you don't have a formal Constitution.
Ah well.... seems there's no going back now - that said, I am perfectly happy with my German ID card now (much more practical than having to carry a book/passport around with you) and enjoy watching from the outside. As you may know we Scots have a different Education system .... maybe that's why more of us voted to Remain, because we were taught to understand things :-)
I would listen to Simon Calder if occasionally he defended this country over the EU but I am yet to see it.
What's known as a traitor.
@@Pureevilhotsauce how so?
it's because the UK's position is indefensible: actions have consequences, and a consequence of voting for Brexit is that you have to abide by the same laws as any other third country. Why should the UK retain any of the privileges of being in the EU as they made it quite clear they did not want to be in it
Ah, the "we are special because we are British dammit" argument. You won and these are the consequences. Get over it.
@@haroldpotter5911 I have nothing to get over, I am very happy thank you
JHB really isn’t the sharpest… poor thing!
ater this year, WTO required, checks on our imports from Europe will begin. Even arch Brexiters have agreed that these checks will be "an act of self harm" Food will become much more expensive, it's supply will also be reduced by quite a lot, causing even worse shortages, probably increasing the need for security staff in supermarkets, shops and high streets. As you know, jobs are being lost throughout Great Britain at an alarming rate, you will all know somebody that has worked constantly all thier life now made unemployed. this has been accelerating rapidly since 2016. In the last 6 or 7 years, the UK has become poorer, the economy has shrunk much more than other peer states, is the worst performing country in Europe and has been laughed at by more people around this planet than even North Korea. Good luck Englanders, I'm off to a much more forward thinking place.
no, Simon, I am not aware of anyone who said "I want to be treated as a third country national". None. I am aware of many people who can't understand why British citizens were trusted to the point of being allowed freedom of movement in the EU a few years ago, but the same British citizens now must be treated the same as someone just arrived from Bolivia. Makes no sense. Portugal has the right approach.
You voted to become a third country. Why are you whining when you got what you voted for?
Why are the EU (apparently) blocking British tourism while their economy is in the toilet (worse than UK)..? 🤣
@@kristianvelle5637 which bit of his statement was whining? I’ve read it and you are just inserting a meaning that simply isn’t there. Nice try but nil points.
@@kristianvelle5637 Can you explain why the UK government agreed to allowing 180 days for EU citizens whilst we get only 90? Whether pro or anti Brexit the lack of reciprocity - whoever's fault it is - is simply unfair. Either reduce the EU's citizens' rights or increase ours.
You voted to leave. That vote included leaving the single market. Leaving the single market meant an end to free movement of people. End of free movement of people means third country status.
This was evident to all, except, it seeems, people who voted for Brexit. That ignorance is nobodies fault but your own.
Never had a problem when I go to the little Greek island I travel to every year. There are no E-gates there anyway and they have always checked your passport. The only difference now is that they stamp your passport. I think I can cope with the extract few seconds it takes for that.
In Thailand they welcome you with a big smile and it's far better than anywhere in the EU.
I assume that those few seconds multiplied by say 300 people on that plane are not a problem if they have enough booths. France asked Dover/UK for double the staff and double the facilities. Since it is on English soil they cannot build them themselves. Plus we are talking about tens of thousands of people.
@@truckerfromreno Sure. Since we don't arrive on ferries and train loads ... just a few planes per day.
@@truckerfromreno Try getting to Thailand with a family of 5.
10 grand holiday before you start.
The main problems are at Dover not at airports. It's when thousands of people turn up at peak times at the port, including coaches, cars, camper vans, caravans and freight. It's a bottle neck and the border control can't cope. Did nobody think of this issue?