This idea would be tricky to research but maybe “Top 10 standard cards that saw no points in their first printing”? Would be cool to see how a change in card pool allows for a card to find a better home.
There's one kinda like that, Top 10 bad cards that suddenly became good. Although not exactly and the one you suggest would be cool as fuck to look at!
Time Spiral Block will always be my favourite. It was such a hype time to be playing magic. Old cards/boarders were back. Legends who were only ever mentioned in flavour text finally got cards. The colour pie was warped beyond recognition. Future Sight previewed crazy mechanics and worlds that were coming down the pipe. It was, for lack of a better term, MAGIC.
For me as well. And, unfortunately, for me it was the point from which it went downhill, powercreep started, etc. Never truly enjoyed a set after Future Sight...
@@Mrkmotr I think that being so closely designed to ice age in cold snap and balancing towards timeshifted card made.for the perfect power level. Adding also many functional reprints or colourshifts limited power a lot. It was much more fun imo to not have these incredibly swingy games like you have now
@L. P. Agree totally. I don't really play anymore, except for wacky formats and ocasional draft with new sets with friends and every one convinces me this is no longer the game I loved so much.
The best deck I ever built myself was a time spiral block constructed deck that was momo blue beats. I won 2 of the large block tournaments that were on magic online and a buddy of mine top 8'd a ptq. It ran multiple times gifted blue cards in flying men, unstable mutation and psyonic blast. The only time I have ever won a mull to 4 on the draw post board vs ub control I went island island dandan then 2 unstable mutation and a psyonic blast.
I think it is worth mentioning that Spike Feeder saw play during times where damage used the stack. It was incredible back then where you could use it to kill a creature AND gain 4 life
It was only the tail end of its presence in standard, but yeah, certainly it helped a lot for those few months as well as in extended for the years to come.
In the vein of Pendelhaven; Urborg is a card that doesn't get enough love. It's just one of those cards that a I run in EVERY casual black deck I own. Comes in untapped, produces one black, and can strip a creature of first strike or swampwalk. I'd love to see a reprint.
fun fact about 'spike feeder': you can gain infinte life with 'heliod, the sun-crowned', also combo off with 'walking ballista' and 'conclave mentor'. easy turn 3 or 4 infinte life or dead opponent
YES!!! Tormod's Crypt is 1 of my favourite cards ever printed n the card I own the 2nd most copies of, the 1st being Elixir of Immortality. I have 9 or 10 Crypts but I once ordered 20 copies of Elixir on top of a few I alrdy had. there was a point in time where I tried not using Elixir in every single deck I made but the 1st game I played without it n a WW 2/2 whose name escapes me at the moment but this creature made it so ur opponents cast cast spell or activate abilities on ur turn, n the deck I played against was TurboFog... I quickly readied those 2 cards back to the deck cuz either of them would've won me that game hands down. this was back in Scars/Innistrad standard. getting back to the Crypt, I mostly used it in a janky mono blue control deck that used it in a combo with a 2U enchantment that forces opponents to exile a card in their graveyard at the start of combat or they couldn't attack ME that turn. we mostly played 4 or 5 player games at the time. it was especially good when we were fuzzy on the rules n thought I could activate it in response to them trying to exile the card. even after that tho, it just meant I had to play smarter.
"I once ordered 20 copies of Elixir on top of a few I alrdy had." I once ordered 2 playsets of the Elixir, because I needed them for two different decks I was building. I didn't notice the site I was buying them from was selling them as sets, so I accidentally ordered 8 playsets. Now I have over 30 of them.
I think the card you’re thinking of is Grand Abolisher! I remember having an Elixir of Immortality when I was just starting out. And it was fun to read the flavor text again years later after learning who Baron Sengir is!
One thing I think will be interesting to see would be how the crypt will do against soul guide lantern in a few years. The crypt is free, but the lantern immediately nukes a single card (usually the problem one) and can be exchanged for a card if you dont need to exile anything else, at the cost of costing 1.
Wow, I am shocked that Call of the Heard didn't earn any points it's first time in block. I thought it was very efficient compared to most creatures of its time back then.
Call of the Herd was solid but Odyssey Block was largely a two deck format. There was Mono Black (it was the block with Torment, which was a black heavy set. One of the few times colors weren't balanced in a set.). The other deck was UG Madness where you think Call would fit fine but the creature list in that deck did not have allot of wiggle room. It was basically a 4x of Basking Rootwall, Wild Mongrel, Aquamoeba, Arrogant Wurm, and probably 3ish Roar of the Wurm with 2-3 Wonder. That gets you to 22-23, throw in 22-24 land, 4 Circular Logic and 4 Careful Study and you ended up with 5-7 flex slots. Aether Burst, Deep Analysis, and Quiet Speculation were all way more popular than Call of the Herd, two serving as just better card advantage than Call of the Herd. (Deep Anal nets +3 cards, Quiet Speculation would usually grab like 2x Roar and a deep anal so +4 cards. Granted these both required a lot of Mana to get that value but both MBC and UG were grindy decks.
I would kinda like to see top 10 cards in timeshift in modern and standard/extended that would not have been there except for timeshifted reprint. Would be similar to this list.
The video is titlet with „top ten timeshifted cards“ but you just chosed pastshifted cards for your list. I would classify the colorshifted cards from planar chaos as timeshifted (presentshifted) to, as well as the Futureshifted cards. So for me cards like damnation, simian spirit guide, aven mindcensor, sliver legion and of course tarmogoyf also belong to the list.
Tormod's Crypt, also, the only reason I know that is because before Oro was banned, I searched for cards to counter him in standard, saw that Crypt was legal. Edit: Told ya
Well, I thought similarly, but that only the points accrued specifically due to being timeshifted would count. So the second time through block and standard (and extended?) and all of modern. Legacy and Vintage points after Time Spiral shouldn't have counted, nor should their original block and standard runs.
Nizzahon, are you gonna comment anything on the Secret Lair x The Walking Dead that's coming out and how it and it's somewhat likely sequels are gonna affect Magic as a game?
@@caseysmith7283 It would eventually affect the likelyhood of wheter Wizards will continue selling Draft products or try keeping Draft alive, considering they were willing to pull this non-customer-friendly thing called Secret Lair Walking Dead. In the future at very least, it would affect the top 10s once they keep printing more eternal format staples in the upcoming crossover Secret Lairs. Hence I still am asking the question from Nizzahon: What does he think about this?
Yeah, the name is confusing, especially looking at the fact that Kaladesh Remastered and Pioneer Remastered, the next remastered sets, are again made in fashion of Amonkhet Remastered, that is reprint sets meant to insert old cards into MTGA
@@NizzahonMagic confusing! since they just made amonkhet remastered and also announced kaladesh remastered, and both are for arena. First paper remastered set? 🤔
The ones from Planar Chaos are colorshifted because they are versions of previously existing cards shifted to another color. The Future Sight cards are futureshifted because they have mechanics and other properties which could be, and some have been so far, explored in future sets.
This idea would be tricky to research but maybe “Top 10 standard cards that saw no points in their first printing”? Would be cool to see how a change in card pool allows for a card to find a better home.
Nizzahon made a similar list that might interest you: MTG Top 10: BAD Cards That Suddenly Became Good ( ua-cam.com/video/MwBPvcYFY2E/v-deo.html )
There's one kinda like that, Top 10 bad cards that suddenly became good. Although not exactly and the one you suggest would be cool as fuck to look at!
But that's kinda difficult to research for
Time Spiral Block will always be my favourite. It was such a hype time to be playing magic. Old cards/boarders were back. Legends who were only ever mentioned in flavour text finally got cards. The colour pie was warped beyond recognition. Future Sight previewed crazy mechanics and worlds that were coming down the pipe. It was, for lack of a better term, MAGIC.
*“Saffi, wait for me … .”*
my absolute favorite set ever. such a great time to be playing kamigawa, mirrodin and timespiral, amazing stories and settings
For me as well. And, unfortunately, for me it was the point from which it went downhill, powercreep started, etc. Never truly enjoyed a set after Future Sight...
@@Mrkmotr I think that being so closely designed to ice age in cold snap and balancing towards timeshifted card made.for the perfect power level. Adding also many functional reprints or colourshifts limited power a lot. It was much more fun imo to not have these incredibly swingy games like you have now
@L. P. Agree totally. I don't really play anymore, except for wacky formats and ocasional draft with new sets with friends and every one convinces me this is no longer the game I loved so much.
I wasn't surprised not to have it on this list, but I LOVE Psionic Blast. Nobody ever expects the blue lightning bolt.
The best deck I ever built myself was a time spiral block constructed deck that was momo blue beats. I won 2 of the large block tournaments that were on magic online and a buddy of mine top 8'd a ptq. It ran multiple times gifted blue cards in flying men, unstable mutation and psyonic blast. The only time I have ever won a mull to 4 on the draw post board vs ub control I went island island dandan then 2 unstable mutation and a psyonic blast.
I know Disenchant is technically the Vintage segue. But any mention of Call of the Heard instead Timeshifts my suggestion to "Top 10 Elephants!"
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@@nickbalmes6640 Okay, but what about the other seven?
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@@nickbalmes6640 Much appreciated.
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The printed approximately 1 billion times gag got me, because I'm so used to you being super serious in these. Really good comedic timing there.
I’ve always payed the echo cost for the riders, I cared for them more then one time
Than*?
I would probably pay off the echo cost a couple times too. 👌🏻
Play them in an Alesha deck. You shall never again pay that Echo cost.
12:20 Can you imagine if Disenchant read "destroy target artifact or counter target instant"?
IN WHITE!!!
why would white have a counterspell?
it already does, 2 of them even
I love being up at 1am (for me) when these come out.
Also 1am for me as well. Well worth it!
same haha
not often you see a top ten with cards from Homelands and Legends, not to mention the #1 spot being from The Dark
Favorite is by far Mystic Snake.
The idea of a creature being a counter spell is hilarious and it's still "cheap" at 4 Mana.
I think it is worth mentioning that Spike Feeder saw play during times where damage used the stack. It was incredible back then where you could use it to kill a creature AND gain 4 life
It was only the tail end of its presence in standard, but yeah, certainly it helped a lot for those few months as well as in extended for the years to come.
I feel like I missed something on #6 Gemstone Mine
14 PT/MC, 31 GP should be 59 not 49, right?
I love using Disenchant to destroy instants!
Lol he did say that
😂
Man, I just pulled a Tormod's Crypt from a Core 21 booster! I guess that one is going to generate more points in the future.
"it was originally printed in the dark" Well turn the lights on I want to see it! /j
Before I sold my collection, the crown jewel of it was 4 Beta Disenchants.
Reprinted 1 million times, sounds about right 🤘
Still less than llanowar elves
In the vein of Pendelhaven; Urborg is a card that doesn't get enough love. It's just one of those cards that a I run in EVERY casual black deck I own. Comes in untapped, produces one black, and can strip a creature of first strike or swampwalk. I'd love to see a reprint.
Tormod's Crypt is such a fantastic card. So stupidly simple, but so effective.
Call of the herd used to be my street nightmare back when it was originally printed. Almost all the kids used to had those in their decks.
To this day I've always found it so weird that it took Wizzards until 2019 to make Disenchant an evergreen card again
They wanted to push Naturalize instead as the most efficient answer. But since they're printing strictly better Naturalizes now, Disenchant is back.
Gemstone Mine deserves to be reprinted more often.
Tormad's Crypt + the new Traumatize is just plan evil...
I say that while using those cards in my brawl deck....
I think an interesting list would be the other side of this mechanic with the
“Top 10 future sight timeshifted cards”
fun fact about 'spike feeder': you can gain infinte life with 'heliod, the sun-crowned', also combo off with 'walking ballista' and 'conclave mentor'. easy turn 3 or 4 infinte life or dead opponent
Please do a Top 10 Favorite cards from UN-sets! What are your favorites from those sets?
Edit: My top 3: Alexander Clamilton, Bad Ass, Old Fogey.
Top 10 cards with no Nizzahon points?
Just look through the draft chaff from any limited FNM, there's your list lol
YES!!! Tormod's Crypt is 1 of my favourite cards ever printed n the card I own the 2nd most copies of, the 1st being Elixir of Immortality. I have 9 or 10 Crypts but I once ordered 20 copies of Elixir on top of a few I alrdy had. there was a point in time where I tried not using Elixir in every single deck I made but the 1st game I played without it n a WW 2/2 whose name escapes me at the moment but this creature made it so ur opponents cast cast spell or activate abilities on ur turn, n the deck I played against was TurboFog... I quickly readied those 2 cards back to the deck cuz either of them would've won me that game hands down. this was back in Scars/Innistrad standard. getting back to the Crypt, I mostly used it in a janky mono blue control deck that used it in a combo with a 2U enchantment that forces opponents to exile a card in their graveyard at the start of combat or they couldn't attack ME that turn. we mostly played 4 or 5 player games at the time. it was especially good when we were fuzzy on the rules n thought I could activate it in response to them trying to exile the card. even after that tho, it just meant I had to play smarter.
Yawn
"I once ordered 20 copies of Elixir on top of a few I alrdy had."
I once ordered 2 playsets of the Elixir, because I needed them for two different decks I was building. I didn't notice the site I was buying them from was selling them as sets, so I accidentally ordered 8 playsets. Now I have over 30 of them.
I think the card you’re thinking of is Grand Abolisher! I remember having an Elixir of Immortality when I was just starting out. And it was fun to read the flavor text again years later after learning who Baron Sengir is!
Old frames best frames.
Ah yes I love destroying instants with my disenchant
I came to literally say this
One thing I think will be interesting to see would be how the crypt will do against soul guide lantern in a few years. The crypt is free, but the lantern immediately nukes a single card (usually the problem one) and can be exchanged for a card if you dont need to exile anything else, at the cost of costing 1.
This was a very good and well-researched list!
Man I miss Pendelhaven. Combined with the Pendelhaven Elder.
Homelands coming in clutch.
Wow, I am shocked that Call of the Heard didn't earn any points it's first time in block. I thought it was very efficient compared to most creatures of its time back then.
Call of the Herd was solid but Odyssey Block was largely a two deck format. There was Mono Black (it was the block with Torment, which was a black heavy set. One of the few times colors weren't balanced in a set.). The other deck was UG Madness where you think Call would fit fine but the creature list in that deck did not have allot of wiggle room. It was basically a 4x of Basking Rootwall, Wild Mongrel, Aquamoeba, Arrogant Wurm, and probably 3ish Roar of the Wurm with 2-3 Wonder. That gets you to 22-23, throw in 22-24 land, 4 Circular Logic and 4 Careful Study and you ended up with 5-7 flex slots. Aether Burst, Deep Analysis, and Quiet Speculation were all way more popular than Call of the Herd, two serving as just better card advantage than Call of the Herd. (Deep Anal nets +3 cards, Quiet Speculation would usually grab like 2x Roar and a deep anal so +4 cards. Granted these both required a lot of Mana to get that value but both MBC and UG were grindy decks.
I would kinda like to see top 10 cards in timeshift in modern and standard/extended that would not have been there except for timeshifted reprint. Would be similar to this list.
How does disenchant blow up instants?
The video is titlet with „top ten timeshifted cards“ but you just chosed pastshifted cards for your list. I would classify the colorshifted cards from planar chaos as timeshifted (presentshifted) to, as well as the Futureshifted cards. So for me cards like damnation, simian spirit guide, aven mindcensor, sliver legion and of course tarmogoyf also belong to the list.
I'm holding out for Thallid again.
Yeah, yeah, it's not going to win, but I love it still.
approximately 1 million times! LOLOLOLOLOL true. Although Plummet is catching up
Squire didn't make the cut? Shocking! :p
Tormod's Crypt, also, the only reason I know that is because before Oro was banned, I searched for cards to counter him in standard, saw that Crypt was legal.
Edit:
Told ya
I feel like with the topic of this list it should only be taking modern into account.
Well, I thought similarly, but that only the points accrued specifically due to being timeshifted would count. So the second time through block and standard (and extended?) and all of modern. Legacy and Vintage points after Time Spiral shouldn't have counted, nor should their original block and standard runs.
Gemstone mine and prolificatre sounds good to me
I use gemstone mine in my atraxa commander deck.
Colorshifted next?
Disenchant printed a million times... did you round down to the closest million? :D
what do you mean back in the day? Javier Dominguez is Fervant Champion
I’m curious what MTG card has the most points in the game’s history. 🤔
Island
Ignoring basic land, it's Thoughtsieze IIRC.
Bolt?
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Thanks!
I love gemstone mine
Nizzahon, are you gonna comment anything on the Secret Lair x The Walking Dead that's coming out and how it and it's somewhat likely sequels are gonna affect Magic as a game?
Mig that’s not his lane. This is a limited/top 10 channel
@@caseysmith7283 But it's a matter that will very likely affect draft in the coming future and Magic as a whole. Hence I asked the question.
Mig how would it affect draft? Secret lair cards aren’t drafted
@@caseysmith7283 It would eventually affect the likelyhood of wheter Wizards will continue selling Draft products or try keeping Draft alive, considering they were willing to pull this non-customer-friendly thing called Secret Lair Walking Dead. In the future at very least, it would affect the top 10s once they keep printing more eternal format staples in the upcoming crossover Secret Lairs. Hence I still am asking the question from Nizzahon: What does he think about this?
I have commented about it on Twitter, but not here. To sum up: I think it is a bad idea.
Wow, this whole time I thought time spiral remastered would be only for arena.
It is only for paper
Yeah, the name is confusing, especially looking at the fact that Kaladesh Remastered and Pioneer Remastered, the next remastered sets, are again made in fashion of Amonkhet Remastered, that is reprint sets meant to insert old cards into MTGA
@@NizzahonMagic confusing! since they just made amonkhet remastered and also announced kaladesh remastered, and both are for arena. First paper remastered set? 🤔
@@SpitefulAZ Yep
@@NizzahonMagic thanks bro! 😘
Nice
Time to shift into these comments.
Two mana to blow up instants and artifacts disenchant is op
I get the aesthetic difference but functionally timeshifted cards are just the same as any other reprint, right?
Yep
Actually, I believe Disenchant has been reprinted 1 billion times.
Aren't planar chaos and future sight cards also called time shifted?
The ones from Planar Chaos are colorshifted because they are versions of previously existing cards shifted to another color. The Future Sight cards are futureshifted because they have mechanics and other properties which could be, and some have been so far, explored in future sets.
Yo your dedicated to putting these out early on fridays. This came out at like 1am
First