When the placement is the same, both mics sound similar enough that I'd need to be able to mess with the individual tracks to see how each one takes processing. They both seem like slight variations on a theme. With kick drums, as you move a mic farther away from the beater, the attack gets clearer, but you lose a bit of the slap (notice how the attack on the D6 cleared up when it was placed in the port hole). As you get closer, the attack gets a bit more smeared, but the slap enhances, and the bleed from the snare gets louder, because nobody seems to notice that the kick mic is basically pointed right at the snare, especially if you're playing a brutally loud bell brass snare drum like I am. So placement becomes a function of how fast the tempo of the song is and if you're using a dbl pedal or two kick drums. Ever since Black Salt Audio released their life-changing plugin Silencer, I judge mic placement more by how easy it is to get Silencer to remove bleed from a signal, because you can then process the crap out of it to get whatever sound the mix needs. Earthworks mics notoriously pick up a lot of cymbal bleed, an unfortunate side effect of having such a clear, transparent diaphragm. This is what makes their overhead mics so fantastic and I'll never use anything else on OHs. Fun fact: if you're recording an extreme metal drummer, the Earthworks SR20LS is the GOAT when you put it 3" (7-8cm) from the beater, because the diaphragm is so small that it can react with the fastest kicks imaginable and not get muddy and sloppy. In conclusion, it seems like the DM6 would do a better job of getting that Pantera ultra-slappy kick sound that had eluded me for so long, and I'd love to try out a pair and see if my suspicions are correct.
I appreciate the video, I do really wish that reverb would have been bypassed the entire time though as it's very distracting and quite an acquired taste
On my audio system the dm6 was just a touch brighter and was missing just the smallest bit of attack from the Audix d6. So to me you get similar if not the same sound with the d6 at half the price, the d6 being $199 and the dm6 being $399. Great video!
Let’s gooo Adam!!!! Double bass! I just powered through some rudiments all month paradiddles and paradiddlediddles are now a part of my playing and sound!
Impressed by this new mic. It’s crazy how you managed to get both to sound really similar when you put them in the porthole, but I enjoyed the unprocessed audio more on the DM6
The unprocessed audio from the DM6 was “better” to my ears. The processed audio was “better” with the D6. I’ve been a fan of Audix mics for a long time, but Earthworks are climbing the ladder and being quick about it, no mistake.
With processing being the desired end result, there wasn’t a big enough difference for me to make another purchase (already own a D6). And this is comparing both placed at the drum port. Unprocessed I do think the DM6 is a little beefier (listening on iPhone speakers). I will probably go back and listen on my studio monitors at some point.
Hearing from my Genelec 8030Bs. I can barely make a diff to objectively outline gains/losses between both. Both are awesome, both excel at the job. If I'd had none and had to get one, probably I'd get the Audix just cause I think it's a better economic choice. Besides the comparison, I don't much like the general mix of the drums. Not quite a fan of the overly aggressive bus comp as it seems to throw the comparison towards a very niche use case. Also there's something I can describe as dirt(is it saturation?)
do you recommend using bass drum mics for floor toms?....a long time ago i heard that its a good idea to do that capture more low end frequecy from the floor toms. whats your opinion on that ?
@@agnbmotorsportsallgasnobra9470 done it many times! I actually cover this in my Micing Masterclass. It’s not for everyone but it can def create some useful sounds.
sounds like there is reverb on the mci. Not a bad kick sound though! They sound almost identical processed but easrthworks is better RAW! IMO of course!
it has it's uses... for the style of music I play, the Earthworks lacks low end and far from transparent lol. Love the audix, but I own SE Electronics V-Kick.
Did you watch the video? I didn’t want to say the quiet part out loud, but I thought it was obvious that the D6 was outclassed in every conceivable way. Like… a Kia Sorento versus a Landcruiser kinda outclassed. lol.
D6 is a 30Hz to 15kHz with scooped mid range and a nice sparkle to the higher end. The DM6 is 20-20 flat and sounds good. Don’t get me wrong D6 is a great mic, but I like what the DM6 brings to the table allowing me to dictate the frequency curve.
@@thedibbfactor also I think it's because DM6 is supercardioid and have higher SPL aside from its full range frequency response. spec-wise DM6 is superior
Possibly, but at $800 I don’t think it’s a realistic competitor of either the D6 or the DM6. I’ve recorded in a lot of world class studios and never seen a 4055 in person.
@@AdamTuminaro dpa is not a major brand its a small brand so many studios dont know that this or that brand exists and it is the case for dpa. they are not well known but just read some reviews on it or watch videos about it. its a condenser mic and should sound great on drums. Of course audix is awesome no qquestion but ive read some good stuff about the dpa 4055
@@DavidKrautscheid Gotta ask… have you not personally used it? Because saying “nothing beats this mic I’ve never used” is a weird way to chime into an audio conversation. lol.
When the placement is the same, both mics sound similar enough that I'd need to be able to mess with the individual tracks to see how each one takes processing. They both seem like slight variations on a theme. With kick drums, as you move a mic farther away from the beater, the attack gets clearer, but you lose a bit of the slap (notice how the attack on the D6 cleared up when it was placed in the port hole). As you get closer, the attack gets a bit more smeared, but the slap enhances, and the bleed from the snare gets louder, because nobody seems to notice that the kick mic is basically pointed right at the snare, especially if you're playing a brutally loud bell brass snare drum like I am. So placement becomes a function of how fast the tempo of the song is and if you're using a dbl pedal or two kick drums. Ever since Black Salt Audio released their life-changing plugin Silencer, I judge mic placement more by how easy it is to get Silencer to remove bleed from a signal, because you can then process the crap out of it to get whatever sound the mix needs.
Earthworks mics notoriously pick up a lot of cymbal bleed, an unfortunate side effect of having such a clear, transparent diaphragm. This is what makes their overhead mics so fantastic and I'll never use anything else on OHs. Fun fact: if you're recording an extreme metal drummer, the Earthworks SR20LS is the GOAT when you put it 3" (7-8cm) from the beater, because the diaphragm is so small that it can react with the fastest kicks imaginable and not get muddy and sloppy.
In conclusion, it seems like the DM6 would do a better job of getting that Pantera ultra-slappy kick sound that had eluded me for so long, and I'd love to try out a pair and see if my suspicions are correct.
I appreciate the video, I do really wish that reverb would have been bypassed the entire time though as it's very distracting and quite an acquired taste
On my audio system the dm6 was just a touch brighter and was missing just the smallest bit of attack from the Audix d6. So to me you get similar if not the same sound with the d6 at half the price, the d6 being $199 and the dm6 being $399. Great video!
Let’s gooo Adam!!!! Double bass! I just powered through some rudiments all month paradiddles and paradiddlediddles are now a part of my playing and sound!
Really appreciate this video! I’m off to buy a D6! 😂
"I feel like I'd be an idiot to not use this," was also my reaction. Fantastic video. Thank you!
Impressed by this new mic. It’s crazy how you managed to get both to sound really similar when you put them in the porthole, but I enjoyed the unprocessed audio more on the DM6
Just want to hear the kick not a reverb smothered full kit performance.
This guy is fun at parties. 👆🏼
I wonder which one of these two will be a better option for a 18x16 floor tom?
The unprocessed audio from the DM6 was “better” to my ears. The processed audio was “better” with the D6. I’ve been a fan of Audix mics for a long time, but Earthworks are climbing the ladder and being quick about it, no mistake.
With processing being the desired end result, there wasn’t a big enough difference for me to make another purchase (already own a D6). And this is comparing both placed at the drum port. Unprocessed I do think the DM6 is a little beefier (listening on iPhone speakers). I will probably go back and listen on my studio monitors at some point.
That DM6 is really nice. I've been using a Roswell Pro Audio K47KD and it's a beast in its own right.
I’ve been thinking of getting a k47kd for a kick out placement. I use the k47’s as my OH’s right now and really love them for recording.
Adam, have you tried the AKG D12VR?
Hearing from my Genelec 8030Bs.
I can barely make a diff to objectively outline gains/losses between both. Both are awesome, both excel at the job. If I'd had none and had to get one, probably I'd get the Audix just cause I think it's a better economic choice.
Besides the comparison, I don't much like the general mix of the drums. Not quite a fan of the overly aggressive bus comp as it seems to throw the comparison towards a very niche use case. Also there's something I can describe as dirt(is it saturation?)
D6 in the Kelly shu and dm6 in the porthole. Blended should be phenomenal.
Totally agree. I didn’t spent too much time messing with that blend, but I imagine it’s a deadly combo. ☠️
do you recommend using bass drum mics for floor toms?....a long time ago i heard that its a good idea to do that capture more low end frequecy from the floor toms. whats your opinion on that ?
@@agnbmotorsportsallgasnobra9470 done it many times! I actually cover this in my Micing Masterclass. It’s not for everyone but it can def create some useful sounds.
@@AdamTuminaro thanks for the clarification man!!!
sounds like there is reverb on the mci. Not a bad kick sound though! They sound almost identical processed but easrthworks is better RAW! IMO of course!
it has it's uses... for the style of music I play, the Earthworks lacks low end and far from transparent lol. Love the audix, but I own SE Electronics V-Kick.
Playing & Studio totally revamped... Wow... !!
After listening again, Earthowrks for the win!
What beater did you used?
Demon XR / X-treme Impact. Full pedal breakdown in my Double Bass Vlogs.
DM6E
Sounds like a plosive more than a drum
They have all tried and They will try again and again....But they can't beat the mighty D6
Did you watch the video? I didn’t want to say the quiet part out loud, but I thought it was obvious that the D6 was outclassed in every conceivable way. Like… a Kia Sorento versus a Landcruiser kinda outclassed. lol.
@@AdamTuminaro you clearly need to go and get a hearing test done ✌
D6 is a 30Hz to 15kHz with scooped mid range and a nice sparkle to the higher end. The DM6 is 20-20 flat and sounds good. Don’t get me wrong D6 is a great mic, but I like what the DM6 brings to the table allowing me to dictate the frequency curve.
@@thedibbfactor also I think it's because DM6 is supercardioid and have higher SPL aside from its full range frequency response. spec-wise DM6 is superior
@@willywidianto6566 - Polar pattern also plays into it as well! Thanks, I forgot to mention that! 👊😎
nothing beats the dpa 4055
Possibly, but at $800 I don’t think it’s a realistic competitor of either the D6 or the DM6. I’ve recorded in a lot of world class studios and never seen a 4055 in person.
@@AdamTuminaro dpa is not a major brand its a small brand so many studios dont know that this or that brand exists and it is the case for dpa. they are not well known but just read some reviews on it or watch videos about it. its a condenser mic and should sound great on drums. Of course audix is awesome no qquestion but ive read some good stuff about the dpa 4055
@@DavidKrautscheid Gotta ask… have you not personally used it? Because saying “nothing beats this mic I’ve never used” is a weird way to chime into an audio conversation. lol.
@@AdamTuminaro Ive only read reviews and watched videos maybe i am blind
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