Most obvious sign of rice-cooking is never playing any moves super quickly, imo. If you watch strong players, there will be many moves that they play almost immediately, or have even pre-moved. This is because they understand the logic behind the move and why it's a no-brainer. Rice-cookers don't have this understanding, therefore they have to refer to the engine even in situations where the move is obvious to a strong player. If a rice-cooker tries to play a move quickly (by themselves), it will have a good chance of being a bad move. Therefore I think a good method of detection is to check if the player never/rarely plays moves quickly, and to weigh into account the accuracy of moves that are played quickly. Strong players' quickly played moves will generally be MORE accurate, since they are more obvious moves, whereas rice-cookers' quickly played moves will generally be less accurate, since they are being made without engine assistance. This wouldn't be as true during a time scramble though, so such instances should probably be weighed less heavily. Anyway, just some thoughts regarding how to detect a cheater.
Not sure that's reliable...some people just play slowly because they are always doing blunder checks. A more reliable way of finding cheaters is if a player starts out playing average or questionable moves, and then all of a sudden plays a string of best moves in a row---it's obviously out of character for them.
Best chess youtuber on earth! Can't watch anyone else. Keep doing this concept, I want to see you make it to GM. Super entertaining och instructive to watch
Congratulations on the rice cooker win! That was unbelievable! Good tips too! Every aggressive move triggers a trap, keep it solid and even as long as possible and hope they flag since they'll run out of time to lookup moves. Good stuff!
These are the videos I find the most helpful for me currently (1700-1800), hearing someone at your level think out loud in real time. Thanks for the videos keep them coming.
Honestly cant get enough of these videos. Seriously appreciate this content Nelson. Will be looking to support as soon as I have some time to pick up a course. Planning to do a book at any point?
At 53:54 in the second game, when Nelson went R-e1, wouldn't K-f2 been a double attack on the queen and the rook - if black takes the bishop, Q takes rook, QxQ then KxQ with an attack on the rook, otherwise the queen needs to cover the hanging rook. Seems to me that's stronger than R-e1, am I missing something?
Those were some awesome games, Nelson! I noticed something at about 53:13 , contemplating where to move your rook and king. Would creating a battery with Rf3 been a good alternative, threatening f7 check with the queen? Seems like it would be tough to respond to with their position. You won regardless and it was an exciting game to watch. Cheers!
when you were looking for ways to add pressure at 18:22 and went for f5 and then a bishop move, the better plan was f5 into g5 and g4, roll the pawns and make the doubled pawns strong
For those that were chatting about strawberry being a fruit or not. Technically a strawberry is a cluster of a hundred or so fruits. The many seeds on the "strawberry" are each a berry. So it is many fruits. The fruits are the individual reproductive seeds while the "strawberry" itself is not a fruit. Botanically speaking, the "strawberry" is called an accessory fruit rather than a fruit.
These videos are so meaningful to me as i climb the rating. Im still stuck around 900 but I look forward to every video to practice understanding many positions. I hope to be comfortable purposefully sacking a pawn one day 😂
hi I have just joined the waiting list for your new course, It says I will be notified when its released but it doesn't mention any kind of cost. do you know where I can find this information? thanks
Hey Nelson, always love your rapids and rating climbs. Sometimes I want to dive deeper into analysis of lines from your games - would it be ok for you to link the links to the games you played in the video description? Just copypaste them when you in a review mode. Thanks!
He's really good and his videos are really good but that's all after 25+ years of experience/countless games/countless hours of studying. Just keep practicing.
@@GRiznitDShiznit Watching his rapid climb videos took me from 500 to 1000 but I have hit a block. I guess you're gonna have to go for theories and just keep on practising and analysing the games if you wanna get higher
At like 38 minutes when opponent played bishop d3 can’t you have just taken the bishop then opponent rooks take your rook then you push your passed pawn?
I'm not calling you a rice cooker, but you take time to think about your every move....EVERY MOVE until you get down to 5 seconds on the clock. I'm lust sayin just because they are thinking don't mean they are cooking rice.
It’s more nuanced than that. He even explains it in the video. It’s not just taking time to think. It’s taking time to think when it’s an obvious move and also not taking enough time to think when a position is complicated. Usually the time will always be consistent. Humans don’t play chess like that. Also, it was a new account, cheaters usually don’t have old accounts because they get caught and banned. The person was banned so Nelson was correct
If you don’t enjoy playing perhaps you shouldn’t play but if you enjoy the game I would carry on playing. Something doesn’t sit right with your question I’m not sure what your intent is? If you want a higher rating train with more studying read books analysis master games learn from your mistakes stop playing blitz or bullet (if you do) try to calculate each move more, try to calculate your opponents moves more. And I guess try not to blunder and also don’t worry about your rating can be a big blocker for your progress
Nelson played a cheater a while ago. After that game, "a friend" of the opponent sent a long email to Nelson, claiming the suspected cheater was a great, honest person. The "friend" that emailed explained away oddly long pauses (obvious recaptures, etc.) and otherwise weird time usage, by saying the opponent had to occasionally step away from the game to check on their rice cooker, preparing for dinner.
I'm guessing they call them rice cookers because a rice cooker is entirely unnecessary and easy mode. all you need is a small sauce pan. I've never in my life ruined or burned rice. I never even knew what they were until recently, because.. what's the point?
A rice cooker is an inside joke amongst chess vibes and his community. It highlights a chess cheater that uses an engine. The term originated from a wack ass cover story of some dudes 'professor' claiming that his 'student' was cooking rice during a match, hence why he took so long on a particular move even though his accuracy was far too high for normal play. Thus he was 'cooking rice.'
Everyone here knows that the rice cooker namesake has nothing to do with asian, for people who get offended just for the sake of being offended then who cares.
What do you call a situation when a rice cooker makes a brilliant move? A big grain move. I know, it's a ricist comment Good job at flagging your oppoment in that game)
it doesn't work, i still am to see a chess course or explanation that works, that is how to get actually better at chess.. the process.. what is i think happening is MEMORIZATION of TACTICS, or POSITIONS that lead to pins, skewers, forks, mates, checks then skewers, checks then forks, etc.. its just bunch of thousands of PICTURES that your brain has to recognize in an instant from memory that will allow you to play chess at certain level.. i'm 1000 +/-100 rating player and have been for 20 years now, how to i not slide back to 500 rating.. i can't, i recognize the patterns and movements, the checkmates that players at 800, 900 do not, and obviously i do not recognize the more complex ones at 1200, 1500 etc.. so i get demolished, same is with our OP here, no matter the training he will not recognize the mating sequence in top 3000 rating chess game that magnuson or hikaru, fabiano would.. why? you just don't have those sequences memorized aka your brain lacks this capacity to even study them, you can't improve.. scary thought, if you are not a GM by 30 yrs old probability of becoming one are less than not becoming.. chess is a brutal game in this aspect, every other sport with effort you can progress, in chess not so.. a little progression is possible, but not alot, its like magnuson even without trainers he would be a super gm, maybe 3rd, 6th in the world but still a super gm-without any trainer, and vice versa, i can never be a IM of 2200 rating even if 20 ppl train me and i devote my life to chess for next 20 years.. which is why i'm sick of courses and people trying to propel this nonsense of teaching chess.. it actually can't be done.
I think you need to watch that game again, in THIS video, I just heard your explanation of the "cheating" and I have to say you are just wrong. ALmost seems like a tactic to bolster your confidence when you just win a player, you get to say, I won despite them cheating... but you have no evidence, none, zero zilch. they took 4 seconds to move a couple times? that is your evidence?!
Getting checkmated with 0.3 sec left is insane lol
Nelson won the game and his opponent had 0.3 seconds
Those last few seconds were wild. Opponent was thinking, "ah, I'll lose on time" -- and gets mated. Well played, Nelson.
I had a game where my opponent had 1 minute and I was low on time. I wound up winning with mate at 0.1 seconds remaining. I was sweating!
@@exisfohdr3904me too! Except opponent had like 5 mins and I premoved a bunch at 10 secs and won with 0.1 😂 best feeling ever
Time stamp brah cmon
2:48 wow he said my name. Thanks nelsonn
His videos are way better than class in school tbh.
Most obvious sign of rice-cooking is never playing any moves super quickly, imo. If you watch strong players, there will be many moves that they play almost immediately, or have even pre-moved. This is because they understand the logic behind the move and why it's a no-brainer. Rice-cookers don't have this understanding, therefore they have to refer to the engine even in situations where the move is obvious to a strong player. If a rice-cooker tries to play a move quickly (by themselves), it will have a good chance of being a bad move. Therefore I think a good method of detection is to check if the player never/rarely plays moves quickly, and to weigh into account the accuracy of moves that are played quickly. Strong players' quickly played moves will generally be MORE accurate, since they are more obvious moves, whereas rice-cookers' quickly played moves will generally be less accurate, since they are being made without engine assistance. This wouldn't be as true during a time scramble though, so such instances should probably be weighed less heavily. Anyway, just some thoughts regarding how to detect a cheater.
where did the term rice cooker originate
Not sure that's reliable...some people just play slowly because they are always doing blunder checks. A more reliable way of finding cheaters is if a player starts out playing average or questionable moves, and then all of a sudden plays a string of best moves in a row---it's obviously out of character for them.
Best chess youtuber on earth! Can't watch anyone else. Keep doing this concept, I want to see you make it to GM. Super entertaining och instructive to watch
Sadistictushi on top
Congratulations on the rice cooker win! That was unbelievable!
Good tips too! Every aggressive move triggers a trap, keep it solid and even as long as possible and hope they flag since they'll run out of time to lookup moves.
Good stuff!
They are banned now.
These are the videos I find the most helpful for me currently (1700-1800), hearing someone at your level think out loud in real time. Thanks for the videos keep them coming.
Same. Also 1700-1800 here.
Honestly cant get enough of these videos. Seriously appreciate this content Nelson. Will be looking to support as soon as I have some time to pick up a course. Planning to do a book at any point?
At 53:54 in the second game, when Nelson went R-e1, wouldn't K-f2 been a double attack on the queen and the rook - if black takes the bishop, Q takes rook, QxQ then KxQ with an attack on the rook, otherwise the queen needs to cover the hanging rook. Seems to me that's stronger than R-e1, am I missing something?
Super instructive,this channel gets better and better...
Those were some awesome games, Nelson! I noticed something at about 53:13 , contemplating where to move your rook and king. Would creating a battery with Rf3 been a good alternative, threatening f7 check with the queen? Seems like it would be tough to respond to with their position. You won regardless and it was an exciting game to watch. Cheers!
when you were looking for ways to add pressure at 18:22 and went for f5 and then a bishop move, the better plan was f5 into g5 and g4, roll the pawns and make the doubled pawns strong
That one cheater you played was banned lol
At 12:38, couldn't you have also moved the bishop to d6 before moving the knight? To also put immediate pressure on the bishop since it's hanging?
1:40
I said i couldn't watch this live because i had to go to school. Now its 1:28pm I can now watch the video at least.
Love the whole chess vibe thing you have here. The rice cooker game was epic. Thanks for sharing your insights as you play.
where did the term rice cooker originate
For those that were chatting about strawberry being a fruit or not. Technically a strawberry is a cluster of a hundred or so fruits. The many seeds on the "strawberry" are each a berry. So it is many fruits. The fruits are the individual reproductive seeds while the "strawberry" itself is not a fruit. Botanically speaking, the "strawberry" is called an accessory fruit rather than a fruit.
shuddup its a fruit
@1:44:55 I cheered out loud "let's go" on that game. That seemed like someone was cooking rice, I'll give you that.
These videos are so meaningful to me as i climb the rating. Im still stuck around 900 but I look forward to every video to practice understanding many positions. I hope to be comfortable purposefully sacking a pawn one day 😂
Same stuck
When Nelson locked in at the end of that game it was truly gorgeous
@18:49
Putting your knight on F5 then G3 would've sealed the deal. That's how you apply more pressure.
Best teacher out there, well done. We wanna see those 2400!
1:00:51 that is NOT the best move there is it Nelson?😏😏
hi I have just joined the waiting list for your new course, It says I will be notified when its released but it doesn't mention any kind of cost. do you know where I can find this information? thanks
Pricing will probably release on the 15th when the course drops. The waitlist might just remind you when it drops
$197
@1:56:45 you have to go pawn g6 to stop pawn f5, right? Or wrong? Idk.
Rapid chess 3h. Couldn't get any better thank u.
Why at 2:19:00 not rook to e5 instead of taking the black rook? I don't see it....
I'm mad at chess Vibes.. I've fallen back in love with chess because of you and chessbrah... damn you all lol
@1:37:50. This player is not cheating.
Getting the rice cooker out just means they're loading up a chess engine.
Excellent session.
Game One: Great job navigating the hectic final seconds. Love the pin on the Queen.
18:52 you could have taken c4, destroying his queens side
Hey Nelson, always love your rapids and rating climbs. Sometimes I want to dive deeper into analysis of lines from your games - would it be ok for you to link the links to the games you played in the video description? Just copypaste them when you in a review mode.
Thanks!
This is really instructive.
Started playing chess in feb and watching your vids has been a massive boost. Still got my arse whopped by a rampaging queen yesterday!😅
Great Videos. Thank you.
I don't get it. I watch so many of your videos. I develop my pieces quickly and castle, then proceed to get schooled by my opponent.
He's really good and his videos are really good but that's all after 25+ years of experience/countless games/countless hours of studying.
Just keep practicing.
@@GRiznitDShiznit Watching his rapid climb videos took me from 500 to 1000 but I have hit a block. I guess you're gonna have to go for theories and just keep on practising and analysing the games if you wanna get higher
Your next step is to study tactics
Same. Though I've only played maybe 10 games since watching his videos. I like chess but I am god awful
Same
excellent video learned a lot
Love your play
Thank you for your video. That was amazing to watch how you built an account from $1!
1:58:27 ...and why you don't push yours?... : a5
1:44:50 happy face
So interested in sacrificing and getting to the end game when in reality you sux with kings and pawns.
Hi Nelson. How do i join your July 15th course?
1:44:00 epic win, you got to make a short out of that haha
do you ever play the Hippo?
Maybe just say it's a "cooker" 😂
37:40 why not just take the bishop?
Because he would lose his rook
That was a fun game. Thanks.
13:26 What are you doing? You have mate in 1 here. Play Qh2#.
i see a bishop watching over that square.
What a genius game you played
At like 38 minutes when opponent played bishop d3 can’t you have just taken the bishop then opponent rooks take your rook then you push your passed pawn?
Kindly share the course details sir
Just look at chess brah speed runs they are super instructive for any openings
They know so much theory and they play at fast speeds
Rice cooker banned, this stream was their last game
When the Knight was on G4, why wasn't just moving the Queen to H2 checkmate?
First game was epic!
I'm not calling you a rice cooker, but you take time to think about your every move....EVERY MOVE until you get down to 5 seconds on the clock. I'm lust sayin just because they are thinking don't mean they are cooking rice.
It’s more nuanced than that. He even explains it in the video. It’s not just taking time to think. It’s taking time to think when it’s an obvious move and also not taking enough time to think when a position is complicated. Usually the time will always be consistent. Humans don’t play chess like that. Also, it was a new account, cheaters usually don’t have old accounts because they get caught and banned. The person was banned so Nelson was correct
The guy after the cheater was also banned for cheating.
exciting chess especially with that rice cooker
where did the term rice cooker originate
ah is a person
Anyone can explain please the meaning of a "rice cooker"?
Supernix giving the rice cooker vibes
Batman in the house
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sup George Clooney
Me watching the rice game, "you pishop the bin to the cook."
i am 995 rapid is that good at all or should i give up chess? 15 years old playing for 2 years
If you don’t enjoy playing perhaps you shouldn’t play but if you enjoy the game I would carry on playing. Something doesn’t sit right with your question I’m not sure what your intent is? If you want a higher rating train with more studying read books analysis master games learn from your mistakes stop playing blitz or bullet (if you do) try to calculate each move more, try to calculate your opponents moves more. And I guess try not to blunder and also don’t worry about your rating can be a big blocker for your progress
I'm new, what's your hometown please
The course is going to have things like group livestreams and the like. Probably won't work for me then since I work nights. Oh well
what exactly do you mean by rice cooker ? is this another term for cheaters ?
Nelson played a cheater a while ago. After that game, "a friend" of the opponent sent a long email to Nelson, claiming the suspected cheater was a great, honest person. The "friend" that emailed explained away oddly long pauses (obvious recaptures, etc.) and otherwise weird time usage, by saying the opponent had to occasionally step away from the game to check on their rice cooker, preparing for dinner.
@@mattl4129 LOL , Now that was funny
34:00
Confused why he didn't even consider Bxd3 against SuperNix
what do GMs mean when they say "that was a very sharp line"
Tricky and complicated line that could go in a bunch of different directions depending on moves. Lots of tactics and traps.
I'm guessing they call them rice cookers because a rice cooker is entirely unnecessary and easy mode.
all you need is a small sauce pan. I've never in my life ruined or burned rice.
I never even knew what they were until recently, because.. what's the point?
Nelsi-connection problems, more than cooking rice?
Anyone care to explain to me what a 'rice cooker' is? Thanks.
A rice cooker is an inside joke amongst chess vibes and his community. It highlights a chess cheater that uses an engine. The term originated from a wack ass cover story of some dudes 'professor' claiming that his 'student' was cooking rice during a match, hence why he took so long on a particular move even though his accuracy was far too high for normal play. Thus he was 'cooking rice.'
@@MagickMountain lol! Thanks for the explanation.
Did you see the rice cookers account got closed.
How was that rice cooker cheating? Cuz she was disconnecting? I dont get it
SamsamJoi, the rice cooker from this game has been banned for cheating.
Ed Sheeraning it
Propably should be careful with that rice cooker inside joke when they have a profile picture of an asian😂
Everyone here knows that the rice cooker namesake has nothing to do with asian, for people who get offended just for the sake of being offended then who cares.
That actually makes it funnier.
i smell rice a roni
What do you call a situation when a rice cooker makes a brilliant move?
A big grain move.
I know, it's a ricist comment
Good job at flagging your oppoment in that game)
Why’d you delete kramnik and timer video
He figured out why he was wrong probably.
You started losing at the end blame the tread mill I think you were just tired Brand new day
Oh man the London! Why did I played another game against this BettKid. How to think at Chess! 😉
it doesn't work, i still am to see a chess course or explanation that works, that is how to get actually better at chess.. the process.. what is i think happening is MEMORIZATION of TACTICS, or POSITIONS that lead to pins, skewers, forks, mates, checks then skewers, checks then forks, etc.. its just bunch of thousands of PICTURES that your brain has to recognize in an instant from memory that will allow you to play chess at certain level.. i'm 1000 +/-100 rating player and have been for 20 years now, how to i not slide back to 500 rating.. i can't, i recognize the patterns and movements, the checkmates that players at 800, 900 do not, and obviously i do not recognize the more complex ones at 1200, 1500 etc.. so i get demolished, same is with our OP here, no matter the training he will not recognize the mating sequence in top 3000 rating chess game that magnuson or hikaru, fabiano would.. why? you just don't have those sequences memorized aka your brain lacks this capacity to even study them, you can't improve..
scary thought, if you are not a GM by 30 yrs old probability of becoming one are less than not becoming.. chess is a brutal game in this aspect, every other sport with effort you can progress, in chess not so.. a little progression is possible, but not alot, its like magnuson even without trainers he would be a super gm, maybe 3rd, 6th in the world but still a super gm-without any trainer, and vice versa, i can never be a IM of 2200 rating even if 20 ppl train me and i devote my life to chess for next 20 years..
which is why i'm sick of courses and people trying to propel this nonsense of teaching chess.. it actually can't be done.
hello
g5
Bd5
1:41:11 bishop C3 hahha Rice is cooking
I think you need to watch that game again, in THIS video, I just heard your explanation of the "cheating" and I have to say you are just wrong. ALmost seems like a tactic to bolster your confidence when you just win a player, you get to say, I won despite them cheating... but you have no evidence, none, zero zilch. they took 4 seconds to move a couple times? that is your evidence?!
is he seriously referring to the taiwanese person as the rice cooker over and over?
rice cooker = code word for stockfish cheater