The Mode That Fixed Tekken's Biggest Issue
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Arcade quest is straight taken from VF4Evo single player it took like 20 yrs for another game to realize how good and useful this mode is lmao
I miss VF…….
They did have something similar in Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection with Ghost Island or whatever it was called
Everything you described at the end about the game telling you how to beat specific things or how to tech throws is build into the replay system of the game. Every time you get hit the replays tell you exactly why you got hit
Not every single time ( in fact, maybe like a 3rd of the time in my experience ), but it usually catches throws and what to press, yeah
@@Dasaltwarriori mean yeah i wouldn’t like the game to tell me why i got hit by a jab 😂
@@Dasaltwarrior also punishment, or where you could duck/step a string.
These ghosts feels like bot AI because they are. These are not real ghosts, there is a list of CPU ghosts that you can fight against to get goodies.
DLC Tournament Pro Ghosts???
Super ghost battle has been very helpful with finding flaws in my game play with characters I use, what I didn't know for a bit, was that the AI gets data from your online matches, not from offline, updating every 3 matches, after you do that for an hour or so, the AI can actually make a good copy of you, think of an infinitely more intelligent DVR
It preety damn awesome to go back after some many online matches to see if you improve your gameplay. I will tell ya, it's humbling to get your ass steamrolled by your ghost character.
I had some experience with Motion Capture for video games and gotta admit even though Namco has always created a seriously fluid and accurate movement animations and overall choreography for Tekkens in the past, (I think they were using MoCap before it was industry standard) They outdid themselves this time. Ps. You almost saw me as Leon in these new Resident Evil games :)
Its like Virtua Fighter 4's quest mode mixed with DOA's attempt at teaching you during its story. Bout goddamn time.
The mode is cool and all, I just wish that the game told me it even fucking existed and was where the tutorial was. It's baffling how much effort they put into it and then just gave up on communicating that this is where the new players should go.
Ramen is a kind of soup tho...
Go to the replays section. They have suggested punishes, throw techs, and combo challenges
@12:08 TBF, that's the point of the Main Techniques section of the move list. It's still a lot, but it's meant to show you what your gameplan should be like.
Interestingly enough, the complaint about more specific information when you lose (throw breaks, punishes etc etc) is actually in the game's replay system. You can rewatch any of your ranked matches and say if you get thrown, the replay freezes and gives you the throw break. Or freezes on moves you blocked and could have punished, but didn't, and recommends a particular punish based on the amount of -frames the opponent has. Recommended combos if you biff a big launch and freeze up. It even lets you take control of the replay itself and play as if the match was still going, letting you practice when they recommend in the context it's been recommended! Absolutely amazing system, and well worth looking into if you're going online quite a bit.
Ive been playing the series for over a decade since T6BR and I still get knowledge checked pretty often. It was one of the reasons I switched to 2D fighters like Strive and Sf6 during T7. At least T8 is fresh and fun for now but Im not looking forward to studying all the new knowledge checks again.
Pfft!
I'm starting with Tekken at Tekken 8 at 57 years old...I also suck at video games.
Gonna be a hard road! I'm looking forward to it.
Haha arceuid reina
I'm glad you're enjoying Tekken! I hope to see more from you, and I'd love to help you train/fight against you, sometime!
Harada love for virtua fighter is never ending and its a shame that this mode is being credited as a sf idea
11:00 They have this in the replay function
Tekken is only fun for the first few months for me. Once everyone has downloaded all the frame traps and pokes and they don't let you play anymore the game ends for me. This is why Tekken doesn't always have a big player population.
If you're playing for months and can't use/best those, it's a skill issue
When I got the 70 damage combo mission I immediately went to Practice Mode Combo Trials for my character and found one. They even tell you the damage it'll do on the menu! Then the only problem is executing it, but I've even hit it online after all that practice.
Replays and tips my guy
The reason why I find Tekken hard at first is because the command input I come from BBCF then just compare both of the command input and you'll notice which the hard one
The best thing about TEKKEN is its difficulty...i stopped playing Tekken for about 14 years then started on TEKKEN 7...boy was it difficult...i hated it but grinded ...now i love it from frame data to doing electrics to wavu mixups to frame traps..it was all soo overwhelming...but now i really love it ... The best game ive played in my life 🎉🎉🎉
2:30 it's not HARD, every fighting game is hard, and almost impossible to master, that's why there so few people have master rank in SF for example compared to all sales. But other games you can play even in online with minimum knowledge of the game, when in Tekken you HAVE to learn all moves you have, because you need to know what your character can do to NOT do it. Because a little mistake can easily cost you 1/3 or 1/2 of a health bar
Bro took over 5 minutes of a 14 minutes video to mention what the video is about... Bro, talking about a stretch.
That comment in the beginning about people that dont even like games know tekken characters is so true. Our family calls the thing where you push your cat's ears back and they get a funny face "Heihachi". Like, 2 people in the family actually play or have played tekken.
what i love alot the tutorials / learning process in t8 is that they have arcade quest for beginners and the replay features for intermediates
having the game tell you that you fell for a knowledge check AND how to beat it is brilliant and i need that in more games
Just bought Tekken 8 because it looked like a lot of fun (and also because I wanted to see how insane the story would get) and after hearing this arcade mode, I might give it a shot. I'm a brand new Tekken player, much less a fighting game player, so I've been taking random characters and trying to learn the game
5:39 which is teaching you have to lunch opponent and then do a combo to juggle with them ONLY. This arcade quest is just a very long and boring arcade mode
The Arcade Quest got me into Tekken so easily. I only played Strive beforehand and Tekken was so much easier to learn its insane.
People saying tekken is hard to learn I just dont understand. People talking like you need to learn hundreds of moves and yet im smashing in ranked using basic shit and a single launcher combo.
Btw World Tour does that aswell, World Tour teaches how to play the game, and it does it seamlessly, mainly how to deal with the character archetypes you will find in Street Fighter, it's really subtle because you're so entertained by world tour that you'll probably miss it
Ooh a tekken ball video
Let me guess. You commented before watching the video.
@@Natsuki_Sufferu its called a joke
@@PotofGlue that is not a joke. If it is, You have a bad sense if humor.
Hey I'm trying to join the discord but the invite link was invalid/expired, anyone have another one?
I wish it emphasized teching lows, because once I started teching most lows my ennemies attempted I became much better
I'm genuinely trying to figure out in what country is Tekken bigger than street fighter...
10:12... back INTO THE wall and THROW THEM TO IT???
XD
is gekko playing reina as neko arc / arcueid? lol correct me if im wrong
If It's not Tekken Ball, I'm not agreeing xd
Love your vids gekko keep u p the good work
Neco arc cosplay goes hard
Yeah that personal anecdote in the beginning is indeed just a personal anecdote. Way more people outside of the FGC would recognize who Ryu is, or even Ken or Chun-Li, than any Tekken character.
My biggest problem with Arcade Quest is that the game isn't learning how you're playing DURING the game, only in a random side area you have to actively participate in. If they can somehow pull it off now only will you be able to fight ghosts of your friends, you can play them like they did when they were at a certain rank to see how they've improved
I’m in a quite similar situation as you. New tekken and picked Reina as my main. Yesterday I reached Dominator, so quite happy about it.
I’m a big rage art punisher as well. Did you know you can punish it with a launcher like df2? You could get more damage like that, or also with a grab, which becomes untechable because it is a punish. That 35 damage with no effort at all
7:33 Tekken 8 does more "lessons" in Practice mode. And you better do it instead of Arcade mode.
At some point I just get bored in Arcade mode and started mashing buttons dont even touch the stick, and I won a cupple of buttles like this
nice arcueid reina
0:54 because it's very grindy and it doesn't reward you at the end of the day equally to spend effort
Ngl I played a bit of AQ(30 minutes) then dropped it. It's only good for people who know absolutely nothing about Tekken and only wanna play a little bit. I say that cause as some one who wants to properly learn Tekken that tutorial barely helped me. That thing doesn't tell you how to break throws or your wake up options are or that buffering works differently here . I wish there was an intermediate tutorial so that I didnt have to go youtube for help.
Check out replay takeover. It will tell you all these things. It will say hey tech this throw with these buttons or try waking up with these moves or here's a few moves to punish that one.
It's actually way more useful than AQ once you learn fundamentals.
Truly the most Tekken video of all time
Nice Arc cosplay
I’m early as all hell
HI
The long move lists are a big problem for me because I want to play 5 characters (including 3 hard ones) and I don't even have the game yet
And I already play 4 other fighting games and have at least 6 mains each in these games
Wont work for tekken
@@quekZo95 to many other games or to many characters in tekken?
One of the 5 characters isn't so important but I definitely want to play the other 4
Don't listen to the doomers, you can totally play multiple characters. I have 4 mains I'm mighty ruler with and can pretty decently play 20 other characters in Tekken it all depends on what your brain is good at remembering I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday but combos I figured out with Ganryu 2 years ago are for some reason still perfect in my head.
It also depends on how fast you adapt a decent Tekken player can without looking at the movelist or ever even seeing a character can within 5 or 10 matches have figured out all the primary moves to use and basic combos because there's a lot of overlap.
@@AsshatRSA thanks
I will try all 5 characters if I have the game
Remembering the stuff for my characters won't be a problem
And the adapting is a problem but only in the higher ranks
Wait Tekken has no Tutorial. i mean ive played previous Tekken Games there is always an option setting on the practice menu for a Tutorial.
i think the uploader wanted a Tutorial on advance moves and strategy but those are unique on every person.
Saved? Tekken was NEVER in trouble! Tf you mean saved? That arcade quest bs is for scrubs and noobs. And it WILL NOT HELP THEM AT ALL!!!! Nobody uses that bs anyway.
The tutorial mode designed for new players was made for new players? Colour me surprised! I would have never thought of that!
Opinion noted
Moving on with my own life...
@@xSnowdrift it's not going to help them.
@@Ramsey276one ok,why did you feel the need to write it? You really felt like I needed to know you've noted it?
@@sadetwizelve How's the MIRROR? Just cleaned it up!