You did a disservice to grim. Mine is lv8 and attack speed is buffed to 20% and movement speed is 9%. It’s a solid A gem when you consider any damage you do stacks this buff.
Good list! I'm using the Fervent Fang, Power & command, Mothers Lament and Pain Clasp gems right now on my barb. I recently added the pain clasp about a month or so ago - I do feel the damage increase using it. Edit; with perm WW now viable P & C is a less useful gem, I find myself not using primary attack as much, maybe something to get rid of in the future.
P&C is at best C tier.I play Crus, and my build was P&C/FF/HOPE/BSJ/Lament/Pain Clasp/Starfire/Seeping Bile, and I needed room for a new gem Void Spark. So I did a lot of tests, replaced each 2* gem one by one, and it turned out that the best result was a build without P&C, and the worst one was without ML. The problem with this gem is that it increases the damage of only one thing, either the default attack or skills. Even in the case of this game where you actually turn on the skills and spend the rest of the time attacking with the default attack, if the default attack is your main source of dmg, and you happen to come to a moment where the dmg skill is increased, you only lose on it.
agree. for crus echo shade or voidpsark help farming as well. even being attack seems to proc spark and maw deep. berserker is way ahead of p n c. though drop reso. it gives main and all class summons buff included. p n c only got one skill or primary and only main. yeh n i think spark spread bile and pain clasp dot buff too.
Followers burden is a great gem but since it can't be used with all classes even a tier is a stretch . Ignious scorn deserves s tier and grim rhythm deserves a tier .but I agree with all the others . Tbh if you are going to change classes at any point , I would avoid using any gem that is class specific . I would also avoid using any gem that is situational like bloody reach or cut throats grin . S tier 2 stars for all classes Pain clasp Fervant fang Vipers bite Mothers lament Ignious scorn A tier for all classes Grim rythm Power and command S tier 1 star gems for all classes Berserkers eye Blessed pebble Everlasting torment S tier 5 star gems for all classes Blood soaked jade Star fire shard Void spark Bottled hope A tier 5 star gems for all classes Maw of the deep Seeping bile Frozen heart Spiteful blood Echoing shade . If you are using any gem other than the ones listed in my comment . Please consider a different game .. Because you have no clue what you are doing .. thanks .
i agree with ur list quite well but the ending i find quite harsh/abrupt. i think "using" should be situational instead. As in PVP gem difference and build differ. For def, cruz barb, battle guard respite and exigent echo, black rose etc is quite very effective. Even Top 3 leaderboard in my server is using it in "situational" but i don't think they should quit the game. as well - it depends on individuality on preference on permanent in gem use or situational flexibility. If an Individual had a reason or flexibility to be in situational or even using 2 star gems like Kirsling with Chip stone and find effective etc. i think it's quite alright. other else, your list is quite a good ones.
Power and command on a sader is pretty strong when you hop on horse, since it replaces primary attack and if you are using the light horsie you are gaining 100% of what the gem has to offer.
Grim gives you movement speed on full stacks Lol. , you sayed “ gives you some attack speed but nothing mor “ … 24% attack speed stacked literally instantly 14% movement speed Definitely S tier Lol .. for every class
not sure about s tier but could be. i believe the move speed came from The Hunger gem. Now the hunger doesn't give move speed it used to and change to attack speed buff instead.
regarding the mother's lament. in pvp, the gem bonus is only 0.4 of its power. this gives approximately 12-13% CR. Vithu has no effect on him. only reforging and chest/pants bonuses can extend its effect. Is it really worth using it?
in pvp no. not worth. gloom guide straight crit 22% and save slot. cutt throat after nerfed is still more reliable than lament in pvp. in pve. lament for me as necro summon is Top Tier. if lament is 5 star gem. it be my Top1 for pve, still now 2star it's hard to find any better. reso aside.
Tough tier list but heres my opinion 3:07 B tier, not for all classes. 6:46 S tier, 6s is a bit fair for no downtime on inc dmg. 7:12 S tier, it stacks with 4pc vithus, flat additive aspd stats, and further boosting your animation attack speed max at 24% with no cd. Besides that, I would agree on your other gem tiers.
Need help.. I thought the Battle Guard gem is good for overall defense and I made it to Rank 5. 😭 Is there anything to do.. like if I sacrificed it to another gem, will it go to the same rank 5?
save it. personally both as necro and barb main battleguard is my S tier IN pvp. due to move unhindered if my low life and escape with Pet savior to heal. Aside, reso n magic find 10per rank5. if u don't plan pvp then drop it. Could u share ur class in instead?
Hey how is the legendary crest counter works. If you get a 5 star legendary gem (A Legitimate Draw) will the counter reset or it will only reset if you don't get a legendary gem in 50 try.
So after max 50 used orange legendary crests you should get a 5 star gem. When you get it the counter resets. You will get 5 star gem sooner or later but 50 used orange legendary crests will give you 5 star gem. They say purple leg. creat pity drop is different, but for me its the same (50 max). I count used crests, Im f2p so its important to me and Im bored :) so I know. Sometimes they also have a bug for drops (or some weird blizz pity) . In November Howlers call dropped twice in short time and my friends had drops with howler at that time . Recently I got Phoenix drops.
@@TheRealRocknRolla-4 What is the used of Diablo immortal partnership if the blogger don't answer the question from the community. Drop the partnership and start your own Diablo immortal content appolyon.
For summon-based builds in PvE, it's considered best in slot. Necromancer, Demon Hunter, and even Crusader are getting impressive damage numbers. Auroth has showcased it multiple times, and summon-based DH PvP builds also work well with it. Anyhow, its primary strength lies in PvE for summon builds; it's a top pick.
@@ApollyonGaming good point dint saw it that way. though bloody reeech n berserker give main n summoner buff too. you're probably right if rank 10. As necro pve summon i had better with bloody reech n berserker and dropping followers at initial.
Followers trash gem cuz u cant use it always necro has lot of new build without summons then this gem not worth to waste gem power for buff only summons
Agree. Doesnt work for me as necro, probably a or b tier. Bloody reach buff main n all and higher buff dmg per. I would drop Follower before i drop Reech. but if necro don't find Follower good as summon ,it's probably quite not much of good overall or they could rebuff higher dmg of the gem to be class specific. now it seems dormant.
@@bbbet5896 yeh i think they should rebuff it to 28% or 32% instead of max 18%. they did that with Replacing The hunger rank5 moved speed buff to attack speed n swap buff to introduce Grim Rtyhm for the move speed. i think they could re-spec Followers too. especially almost all class having summon new build. re-newing the gem would make more sense.
wow, your english got so much better LOL. jk. seriously though, you don't need AI, you'll lose viewers at the start of the video. no one likes to hear AI voices.
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Think Kirk Sling should move up one of the strongest 2* gems
You did a disservice to grim. Mine is lv8 and attack speed is buffed to 20% and movement speed is 9%. It’s a solid A gem when you consider any damage you do stacks this buff.
Good list! I'm using the Fervent Fang, Power & command, Mothers Lament and Pain Clasp gems right now on my barb. I recently added the pain clasp about a month or so ago - I do feel the damage increase using it. Edit; with perm WW now viable P & C is a less useful gem, I find myself not using primary attack as much, maybe something to get rid of in the future.
yeh u can drop it.
P&C is at best C tier.I play Crus, and my build was P&C/FF/HOPE/BSJ/Lament/Pain Clasp/Starfire/Seeping Bile, and I needed room for a new gem Void Spark. So I did a lot of tests, replaced each 2* gem one by one, and it turned out that the best result was a build without P&C, and the worst one was without ML. The problem with this gem is that it increases the damage of only one thing, either the default attack or skills. Even in the case of this game where you actually turn on the skills and spend the rest of the time attacking with the default attack, if the default attack is your main source of dmg, and you happen to come to a moment where the dmg skill is increased, you only lose on it.
agree. for crus echo shade or voidpsark help farming as well. even being attack seems to proc spark and maw deep.
berserker is way ahead of p n c. though drop reso. it gives main and all class summons buff included. p n c only got one skill or primary and only main.
yeh n i think spark spread bile and pain clasp dot buff too.
Hmmm. I think lightning core also charge when you move not that it would be enough to bump its tier though. Nice vid.
Followers burden is a great gem but since it can't be used with all classes even a tier is a stretch . Ignious scorn deserves s tier and grim rhythm deserves a tier .but I agree with all the others . Tbh if you are going to change classes at any point , I would avoid using any gem that is class specific . I would also avoid using any gem that is situational like bloody reach or cut throats grin .
S tier 2 stars for all classes
Pain clasp
Fervant fang
Vipers bite
Mothers lament
Ignious scorn
A tier for all classes
Grim rythm
Power and command
S tier 1 star gems for all classes
Berserkers eye
Blessed pebble
Everlasting torment
S tier 5 star gems for all classes
Blood soaked jade
Star fire shard
Void spark
Bottled hope
A tier 5 star gems for all classes
Maw of the deep
Seeping bile
Frozen heart
Spiteful blood
Echoing shade .
If you are using any gem other than the ones listed in my comment . Please consider a different game ..
Because you have no clue what you are doing .. thanks .
i agree with ur list quite well but the ending i find quite harsh/abrupt.
i think "using" should be situational instead.
As in PVP gem difference and build differ. For def, cruz barb, battle guard respite and exigent echo, black rose etc is quite very effective. Even Top 3 leaderboard in my server is using it in "situational" but i don't think they should quit the game.
as well - it depends on individuality on preference on permanent in gem use or situational flexibility. If an Individual had a reason or flexibility to be in situational or even using 2 star gems like Kirsling with Chip stone and find effective etc. i think it's quite alright.
other else, your list is quite a good ones.
Power and command on a sader is pretty strong when you hop on horse, since it replaces primary attack and if you are using the light horsie you are gaining 100% of what the gem has to offer.
Same with fire or lightning horse
agree except GRIM gem must be on s tier.
Mother's Lament is heavily debuffed in PVP, imo it is not even A tier anymore
Old voice is good
Got my ML to r10 finally
Grim gives you movement speed on full stacks Lol. , you sayed “ gives you some attack speed but nothing mor “ …
24% attack speed stacked literally instantly
14% movement speed
Definitely S tier Lol .. for every class
not sure about s tier but could be.
i believe the move speed came from The Hunger gem. Now the hunger doesn't give move speed it used to and change to attack speed buff instead.
best 2 star gem mothers lament in a tier no word
i agree with you. but he's presenting in his opinion and not facts so i think it's okay to have differences?
I'd move mother's lament and grim rhythm up a tier and fervent fang down a tier. Otherwise very agreeable overall.
regarding the mother's lament. in pvp, the gem bonus is only 0.4 of its power. this gives approximately 12-13% CR. Vithu has no effect on him. only reforging and chest/pants bonuses can extend its effect. Is it really worth using it?
in pvp no. not worth. gloom guide straight crit 22% and save slot.
cutt throat after nerfed is still more reliable than lament in pvp.
in pve. lament for me as necro summon is Top Tier. if lament is 5 star gem. it be my Top1 for pve, still now 2star it's hard to find any better. reso aside.
Plz test the new gem grim thanks
your own voice is much more relatable n trustworthy to follow along. pref your voice. ❤❤
Thanks for the Video, but honestly your videos are better with your real voice! Or Put a background music in, its less boring! thank you
Tough tier list but heres my opinion
3:07 B tier, not for all classes.
6:46 S tier, 6s is a bit fair for no downtime on inc dmg.
7:12 S tier, it stacks with 4pc vithus, flat additive aspd stats, and further boosting your animation attack speed max at 24% with no cd.
Besides that, I would agree on your other gem tiers.
good content. but i don't not agree with Kir Sling and Abiding Curse
Need help.. I thought the Battle Guard gem is good for overall defense and I made it to Rank 5. 😭
Is there anything to do.. like if I sacrificed it to another gem, will it go to the same rank 5?
save it. personally both as necro and barb main battleguard is my S tier IN pvp. due to move unhindered if my low life and escape with Pet savior to heal.
Aside, reso n magic find 10per rank5. if u don't plan pvp then drop it.
Could u share ur class in instead?
Hey how is the legendary crest counter works.
If you get a 5 star legendary gem (A Legitimate Draw) will the counter reset or it will only reset if you don't get a legendary gem in 50 try.
So after max 50 used orange legendary crests you should get a 5 star gem. When you get it the counter resets. You will get 5 star gem sooner or later but 50 used orange legendary crests will give you 5 star gem. They say purple leg. creat pity drop is different, but for me its the same (50 max). I count used crests, Im f2p so its important to me and Im bored :) so I know. Sometimes they also have a bug for drops (or some weird blizz pity) . In November Howlers call dropped twice in short time and my friends had drops with howler at that time . Recently I got Phoenix drops.
@@TheRealRocknRolla-4 What is the used of Diablo immortal partnership if the blogger don't answer the question from the community.
Drop the partnership and start your own Diablo immortal content appolyon.
i can't watch this videos with tht voice i just can't
Followers is D at best. Summons are useless in PvP and as you said PvE is easy regardless
For summon-based builds in PvE, it's considered best in slot. Necromancer, Demon Hunter, and even Crusader are getting impressive damage numbers. Auroth has showcased it multiple times, and summon-based DH PvP builds also work well with it. Anyhow, its primary strength lies in PvE for summon builds; it's a top pick.
Bloody reach is better for summoners because of it's hidden mechanics
@@ApollyonGaming good point dint saw it that way. though bloody reeech n berserker give main n summoner buff too.
you're probably right if rank 10.
As necro pve summon i had better with bloody reech n berserker and dropping followers at initial.
@@andykraev yeh. moving away from my mage necro/turret dh summon. straight max dmg buff.
just by moving away not even attacking.
New voice is off putting. Old voice is better. ❤️
Feels like this list is pure wizard bias
Nice
Followers trash gem cuz u cant use it always necro has lot of new build without summons then this gem not worth to waste gem power for buff only summons
Agree. Doesnt work for me as necro, probably a or b tier.
Bloody reach buff main n all and higher buff dmg per.
I would drop Follower before i drop Reech. but if necro don't find Follower good as summon ,it's probably quite not much of good overall or they could rebuff higher dmg of the gem to be class specific. now it seems dormant.
@@eastcow yep also one reosan is its useless for pvp then no point to use this gem
@@bbbet5896 yeh i think they should rebuff it to 28% or 32% instead of max 18%.
they did that with Replacing The hunger rank5 moved speed buff to attack speed n swap buff to introduce Grim Rtyhm for the move speed.
i think they could re-spec Followers too. especially almost all class having summon new build. re-newing the gem would make more sense.
This voice isn't good at all. Makes the videos seem uninteresting and tedious.
Ai voice no good
wow, your english got so much better LOL. jk. seriously though, you don't need AI, you'll lose viewers at the start of the video. no one likes to hear AI voices.