Jordan Peterson - English Common Law Is a Miracle
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- Jordan Peterson explains why he believes English common law is a miracle.
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Just better promoted than others. I mean Magna Carta technically enforced the rule of law over the king, but it didn't work before the Restoration, while the rule of law would work in some other countries.
@@piotrmalewski8178 it worked up until the Norman invasion. The Magna Carta was only a portion of what was lost over a hundred years prior. Parliament was a centralization of power belonging originally to the witenagemot, found in the gates of every city our Anglo-Saxon ancestors dwelt. Every city would assemble and adjudicate the every cause and they had authority to deny the king his request for taxes.
Returning to the common law originally had by them is the answer to all our political woes in the world today.
Considering the constitution is perfectly compatible with our sacred ancestral laws before they were ever written down is a miracle in itself.
As Humans consciously ,merrily and confidently ,express the whims of its social conditioned Egos. The future generations can see the glow of insanity ,that has destroyed a Human future.
@@shanikaswasey3708Kent Codex onwards
I highly recommend watching this documentary by Peter Hitchens on how our laws and rights have been eroded and changed
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As an Australian I'm eternally grateful for our British foundation,we could never have been this good a nation without it.
We sent all the best and brightest, it's why you all do well and all can have a laugh 🤣
As another Australian, I second that comment! I'm so glad we DON'T have a presidential system.
I'm glad you get to benefit from it too. We're cousins. And I love that. 😃👍
I lived in Australia for 20 years and got tired of the anti English narrative.. but, it's fashionable IMHO.
I appreciate this man's view...we aren't a bad ol', bunch...
I found it very moving to hear Jordan Peterson remind us that we British do have something to be proud of, as a counter to those who tear down statues and choose to rewrite our history.
Nobody is rewriting history. Just bringing to light the bits that were previously ignored, turned away from, and swept under the carpet.
@@pgl0897The entire world constantly reminds Britain about there imperial roots. Nothing gets hidden about it. If anything all the cool stuff that benefeited humans is brushed under the rug. You know like literally inventing the modern world?
@@bootlegpete7984 That doesn’t seem to be the case to me tbh. A point that I think is somewhat emphasised when people make claims like Britain “invented the modern world”.
To use OP’s example about tearing down statutes, the overriding narrative about Edward Colston for centuries was that he was a wonderful philanthropist that gave money to build schools and hospitals and assist the poor. The sort of person we build statues for to revere them. Nobody stopped to think where all this money came from, and the exploitation and harm that was caused accruing that wealth.
We may just have to agree to disagree, but I recommend Akala’s book Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire on this topic. It’s brilliant and gives an important different perspective.
Slave trading aint great though is it? Thats why the colston statue was torn down.
There are things we can be proud of and things we shouldn’t be proud of.
@@bootlegpete7984 there and their. Two different words.
As a Brit, I salute you Sir!
As an english exile, it's a thumbs up from moi !
I was listening to a biography of a Jewish man who escaped the holocaust in Nazi Germany and lived in parts of Europe until he fled to England and remarked how much he loved the ordinary English people, who went out of their way to make him feel accepted and safe. Good to know.
This country has always welcomed people fleeing oppression.
Genuine refugees will always be welcome
Have a listen to the late Jerry Springer on the subject, his family experience.
Nice that the English had opportunity to attone expelling Jews and having centuries long ban on entrance for them.
I wonder would that guy think about UK now seeing millions marching streets and chanting antisemitic slogans.
God Bless Him. I'm happy to hear that he found a safe place to live amongst us.
If only we had that attitude now. Reform are getting the dense vote, and there's a lot of dense people nowadays.
As an Indian I’m grateful to British for English common law
As an American I feel a kindred spirit with India as a former British colony.
English common law is ignored when it come to his home !
Thank you.
Thankyou
You should be grateful to the English for the Constitution and Common Law. The British had nothing to do with it. The British have only existed since 1706/7 and ignore our Constitution to this day.
What's amazing is, I have drawn the same conclusion on Britain and I'm an American. Thanks Mum. ❤
And I feel bad for the Americans who have to live under our ‘two party system’ after leaving the old world to forge a new life
Hi Iam. Don't try to sweet-talk your mother, go tidy your room. Cheers, P.R.
Haha...'Thanks Mum'....A few years ago on July 4th a British newspaper had on it's front page 'Happy Birthday USA, love Mum'...I forget which newspaper it was
Everyone hates us, but when the going gets tough you will want us in your corner.
Hate is attracted to success
@@darkmatter6714 And that hate started with Satan, and then Cain.
They hate us because they ain’t us! 👍🇬🇧
Yawn. I gave up imaginary friends when I was 4. @@robertmccabe8632
They are jealous of us -that's it in a nutshell
I'm English and have no unnecessary guilt. Billions we're spent in compensation to the slave owners. The Royal Navy enforced the slave ban. I've never apologized for something I didn't do.
damn right.
As a brit, thank you for the history lesson about my country. Fantastic take on my homeland.
The English language is the lingua franca of the world. Common law is the bedrock of freedom and justice. And Britain led both the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution. As an American these facts are not lost on me.
Please can you tell me where the country of btitain is as i see 2 countries and a principality on the main land ,ENGLAND,SCOTLAND ,AND WALES ,
@@christinehornsby1984Britain is a collective of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The other names for us is the UK (United Kingdom), the British Isles, and Great Britain. They are technically 4 separate countries under one main parliament of government although the other countries do have their own parliaments of governance the houses of Parliament in London remains the main head of UK government. Complicated I agree.
England does not have its own parliament as a nation ,neither boes wales and scotland or norther ireland they have assenblies not parliaments ,eventho scotland wales and northrr ireland can make some laws they are still hoverned by the british parliament in london ,england does not have any parliament or assembly in is governed only by the british parliament in london@@sliderdriver1
@@sliderdriver1 Britain = England, Scotland and Wales. UK = England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland. British Isles = England, Scotland, Wales & Ireland (Northern & republic).
"England has far too much unnecessary guilt" too right
I don’t.
I don’t have any. Sorry to disappoint you.
I don’t have any. I feel guilt for my actions not anybody else’s.
Well said! @@Shell2164
For all the hype about our super law system, we have lost the right to free speech.
Every nation can reflect upon its failures but I believe the world has benefitted from British contributions to modern life and I'm proud of my family's part , and my Welsh ancestry.
My heart bursts with pride 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Your flag disgusts me and all patriots in England
I am an Englishman and I am still so proud of what my British forefathers did for the whole world.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
lol youre an Englishman standing on the ruins of Scotland and wales
Ironically it was not the English that did it.
It all started with some French habituated Scandinavians.
SIC: Devout Christian Normans!
I'm British, so the British and the French have killed more people around the world in the name of colonisation than any other country.
@@philiprowney You're American aren't you? I can tell
@@melzeebub92 nope, guess again.
[ tries to make a 'you must be a stupid American' argument', that's plain xenophobic ]
If you knew how to use Google, you'd know exactly where I am from and what my ethnicity is.
It's not like there are only 7 people with my name in the country of my birth... [ clue: 1 in 10,000,000 ]
Speaking about the west in general, Thomas Sowell has pointed out that it is the only civilisation in history to set out to end slavery once and for all
Sowell is a treasure...
Exactly. He's a very sharp man. It's great to see people trying to argue against him and struggling.
But it was the English in particular not the west in general.
@@Paul.Morgan Until the 1830s it wasn't anyone. The shift in attitudes pretty well started in Britain just before then, and was complete across the entire west, and her off-shoots, by the 1880s.
Sowell was contrasting that phenomenon with countries outside of the influence of the west where this did not occur. And also with civilisations of the past that made no conscious effort to dispense with slavery, let alone attempt to impose an abolitionist standard on others.
Only the west did this. The west also maintains that standard to this day.
Unfortunately, slavery is starting to reestablish as a social norm in some areas where the west has now lost influence. That reemergence seems to underline the point.
Slavery is live and kicking today to be fair but not so much in England at least, unless you consider amazon distribution facilities 😅
As an Englishman I am forever grateful to God that I was born in England, such a small island that was blessed mightily over hundreds of years, the last great Empire.
Hi there "beloved son". Bai Jove old chap, that's a bit over the top! To be frightfully honest with you, you can't possibly know that England's glorious empire was the last great empire. The playing fields of Eton have not yet hosted their last game, and greater things may be at hand. England may yet rise from the ashes even though she loses the cricket to Australia. I hope you're not one of those foreigners who live in the blessed land who now think they're pukka Englishmen. Never mind if you are, your heart's in the right place. Cheers, P.R.
@@philliprobinson7724 Phillip REALLY, if Britain, and yes it was Britain, not England, rises again it will still be the British Empire and so that will be the same Empire, we were just taking a nap and so it would still be the last great Empire.
@@abelovedsonofGodinwhomHeis35-6 Hi There B.S.o.G. (etc.) Alas, my trousers have fallen down, you've trounced me on two technicalities. "Well done my good and faithful savant." Go now to thine well earned rest. But before you doze in imperial splendour, remember what the Good Book says.
"A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands, (A LITTLE NAP,) and ruin will come upon thee like an armed man, and poverty like a thief." (Prov 24:33-34)
Britain's greatness may come and go as Britons dream their lives away underneath the arches,, but THERE'LL ALWAYS BE AN ENGLAND
Cheers, P.R.
What's God got to do with it? He's dead.
100%, we knock our own country but i would never live anywhere else
Years ago, when Ron Paul was making his Presidential bid, there was some political scandal, or proposed insanity from some politicians, can't remember what. When Ron Paul was interviewed about it, he commented, this is against Magna Carta. Made me smile, England, little body with a mighty heart.
Two countries are primarily responsible for the creation of the modern world, Great Britain and the United States and there would be no United States if not for Great Britain. Thank God for Great Britain.
He said this during his final address to Congress, "Today the principle of habeas corpus, established when King John signed the Magna Carta in 1215, is under attack..." Perhaps you refer to that? Historically he was mistaken as Habeas Corpus comes from the Assize of Clarendon of 1166 during the reign of Henry II.
The king's reforms did much to wrest power out of the hands of the barons and into the Royal Courts. Ironically, some of Magna Carta was an attempted push back against that, but thankfully the changes had become embedded enough to prevent it happening. Henry II was one of our greatest kings for what he did in this respect, but is today sadly remembered chiefly for the murder of Thomas Beckett, which stemmed from his understandable frustration that one sixth of England's population who counted as 'clergy' (this is not just priests but any person who had studied in some church establishment including almost everybody who was literate) could only be tried for crimes in ecclesiastical courts, which were far more lenient than the king's. That probably remained an underlying sore point until the break with Rome nearly 400 years later.
@@ShanghaiRooster Had a few problems with his sons, I seem to remember.
Who doesn't .@@onastick2411
@@ShanghaiRooster Those years typed on a page! it is sobering to think of the effort put in against kings over 800 years ago. The enlightenment of the English took centuries but no other nation has come close to the same level. There are of course enlightened people in all cultures but no other culture enshrined it in law in the same way.
Americans aren’t taught this, they believe we had nothing to do with ending slavery but we did! We love our country and our commonwealth countries.
It’s also worth noting that the cost of ending the slave trade wasn’t officially paid off until 2015, which means that British people alive today, actually contributed (financially) to ending it.
we literally initiated the end of slavery, to remove us from the process is like replacing the acknowledgement of parents struggles during christmas in favour of a fat man in a red suit endorsed by coca cola,
In actual fact slavery was on the statute of being illegal in 1066 but in the 1740’s I think is when the first case were brought to justice against people that came from the Americas with there slaves and had to grant them freedom with financial recompense. In Lincoln Square Manchester, UK there is a statue from Abraham Lincoln given to the people of Manchester that supported him in abolishing slavery in the Americas by not using the cotton from the slavery fields in America. The Portuguese actually had more that 2.5 times more slaves than any other country. The British Navy had ships patrolling the seas of the Americas to capture slave ships and free the slaves. And it was considered a job to be proud of at the time. We the British/ English have been slaves several times should we not also be compensated, I think not the world needs to move forward remembering the mistakes and horrible things but not constantly dwelling on them you can’t progress if you are constantly living in the past.
@@martinpearce7347to be clear the law was against having a slave in England in that period it did not restrict it in the commonwealth
I gotta agree with you there friend. Please take a step back and not hate US for the amount of information we are kept from and worse the amount of misinformation we are being forced upon. We are no doubt under a spell by more than just 2 political parties I imagine. The weapon of propaganda has never been so strong and its gets stronger everyday while many of us seem to get weaker. Evil genius
Peterson the Magnificent. His abilities to organize enormous amounts of information into Exceptionally organized thought is Super Natural.
It also helps if you have an IQ of 160
The founders were Deists. Thomas Paine Age of Reason "without the pen of Paine, the sword of Washington would have been wielded in vein". Also common law is historically monarchical and stems from the Anglo-Saxons, not the Normans.
Grammar, logic, rhetoric.
A peerless ability to summarise a corpus within a few paragraphs without pause.
That what happens when ones life doesn't revolve around TV and movies.
Hence others like Dr Thomas Sowell, Dr Ben Carson, D'Souza.
Nice to hear this. Proud to be English and thus British and just wish more people here realised what a great and unique nation our ancestors forged.
As an American I've come to appreciate was is known as the "Special relationship" There really is a lot to it and not just a nice slogan.
Britian is not England
Britain is a construct created in 1707 by the Money
@@donaldclifford5763The special relationship is largely a myth
@@donaldclifford5763 During a voyage to London in December 1918, Woodrow Wilson told his aides that if Britain did not come to terms over sea power, America would “build the biggest Navy in the world, matching theirs and exceeding it…and if they would not limit it, there would come another and more terrible and bloody war and England would be wiped off the face of the map.”
So much for the special relationship
@@seanmoran2743 :) it's an island... been there since the last ice age!!
Thank you Jordan for saying it like it is. I am a proud Brit and am disgusted by those within the West who call for Britain to make reparation payments after we had spent billions of pounds in todays money policing its abolition around the world. Reparation should flow the other way.
AFTER making hundreds of trillions building an empire… you decided to throw some pennies back. Good job. 👍🏿
@@lekudos We finished paying off the debt of abolishing slavery in 2015. If the debt takes nearly 200 years to pay off it isn't pennies. We also lost thousands of lives in stopping slave ships from Africa. Good job on your ignorance of history.
@@lekudosthat’s quite an ignorant statement. I suggest you go and visit Africa and ask the countries who sold the slaves (hint: they weren’t white people) to give reparations. I dare you.
Even in modern day Africa/ Middle East there is a huge human trafficking/slave trade going on even today. It isn’t us white people buying slaves 😂
@@lekudosYou do know that every day you use British inventions, right? Your entire life and the lives of your loved ones revolve around technological advances and scientific discoveries made by Britain. Are those the pennies you speak of? Your entire life is based on pennies?
@@lekudosHundreds of trillions? HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS? Where the hell did you get that figure from? For a start, that's impossible, because there's never been THAT much money in the entire world. Who built our country? Not the empire, that's for sure! Ordinary working men and women went down the mines, toiled in the factories, worked the land, built our infrastructure, and paid for it with years of hard graft. No slaves here at all, except for the working classes who had to make their living any way they could. Where's all that supposed wealth gone for the children of those with so-called white privilege? And some of those very men fought and died to free enslaved people across the globe, cheered on by their fellow countrymen. And now we're supposed to pay reparations for slaves our ancestors never had and never profited from? The empire was extremely expensive to administer - it was more for prestige than anything else because we were in competition with our European neighbours - it's what they tried to do, and we were just 'better' at it. We've paid our reparations over many, many years, and, I have to say, the countries of the empire haven't done that badly on the global stage compared to the nations of other faded empires. When our power was at its height, we used it to free the oppressed across the world with our navy - which is more than anybody else did! 🇬🇧
Great Britain is a gift to humanity. Im hispanic, of Cuban background, & the UK was very active in promoting the liberation of Latin America from Spain. British agents armed the Seminoles here in Florida in their fight against the US. Wherever there's a fight for liberty you will always find the British on the right side.
Lol.
Greetings from Ireland.
It’s true. Britain has been a shining light for the world yet they are seen as being oppressors. They freed most the world and brought democracy and common law
Our government is not doing a good job of fighting for the liberty of its citizens at this moment.
@@hoonaticbloggs5402
That's the same over most of the world right now due to the 2 and 3 letter agencies making their bid for total control of humanity. Politicians are mostly controlled by them, the further up the ladder they are the more they are controlled.
I'm British, and feel that these islands are especially sacred. There really is something in the ground here beyond what you see, and its reflected in what happens. No matter what, it will all turn out right in the end, although there will be trouble in the meantime.
Note also that the All India Muslim League pushed for the disintegration of a democratic, inclusive India whereas the British government at the time opposed this.
And they opposed it for good reasons, i.e. to maintain stability. Until they realised that the writing was on the wall and relinquished Governorship.
@@rayjennings3637 Indian self rule was a long process, it took well over 100 years for them to get to the point they could actually rule themselves. You are looking at a few years in a long process, try looking at the wider picture and avoid the modern tendancy to look simply at the last flashpoint.
So True, Sir. It’s refreshing to hear the Truth spoken for a change.
“Jordan Peterson” gotta be one of the smartest men on planet Earth, I could listen to him all day.
I think some governments would be well served listening to what he has to say.
Most of them wouldn't be able to understand him.
@@alastair9894 i know a fraud when i see and hear one.
You need to get out more.. he's never the smartest man in the room when he does public debates
He's deeply religious, that disturbs me greatly considering he's an so called ''intellectual''.
@@Pagan-71He was an intellectual first, religion coming afterwards. This is actually not that uncommon. But, for the sake of argument, even those who aren’t religious can benefit hugely by the morals taught by religion and, in fact, already do in daily life.
“Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life.” - Cecil Rhodes
An Englishman in New Zealand or Australia perhaps but the homeland right now is struggling somewhat
@@mirarstudios I'm still here to do something about it.
I remember the quote...and Rhodes writes as an englishman to another englishman....because if you are an englishman you don't sing and shout about how fortunate you are to be one to a non-englishman...With good grace you just feel it and know it...and keep quiet
Can we still identify as an Englishman? We have to be British these days so how can I be proud to be "English"? Our separate UK countries don't seem to be recognised! @@mirarstudios
Where much is given... much is expected (Luke 12:48)
We seem to forget a large part of our history. We focus on the 1700's then skip to 2020.
As an American, I thank God we were a British colony. The citizens of England must stand up for what made them good against the progressives and those that don't assimilate.
As a Welshman I'm so relieved you're an American, stay there, never get a passport and never ever leave.
Of course you should thank God. Otherwise you’d be Spanish ruled and end up like South America.
Magna Carta & the Common Law. Talk about lightning striking twice
And parliamentary democracy.
@@georgebailey8179Not to forget Ed Sheeran.
And the Writ of Habeas Corpus - no rotting in a foreign jail for months, then having to prove you are innocent. Some people believe this Writ is a part of the Magna Carta. It isn't.
Yay! Support for us English! Don’t often hear it as vocally, or as passionately expressed. I vote we confer honorary British citizenship to Professor Peterson
JP has hit the nail on the head. If only we could see ourselves as other people (Not rabid Lefties) see us. I'm tremendously proud to be British. Not in an arrogant & contemptuous way but knowing that I as an Anglo/Scot I epitomise Britishness in word, act & deed.
I'm mostly English, but Scottish historical contributions to the World are humbling, one of the most influential and innovative ever, even more so when realising it came from such a small population! We have to find our way back to be the kind of people again, we have lost our identity to a large degree.
The British Empire was the greatest thing God ever made.
God didn’t make it though because there is no God obviously.
@@pompeylad1977 Well he didn't make Portsmouth.
@@roryblake3232 of course he didn’t, God didn’t create anything because there isn’t a God, man created Portsmouth and every other town, village and city on earth just like man created the British Empire.
You clearly ain’t had a pecan plait
As a proud UK citizen, 🇬🇧 born at the end of the war which saved the world from a singularly nasty outbreak of fascism, I should like to thank JP for his reasoned assessment of how splendid we are!!
"How splendid we are"? Really! The UK is a corrupt vampire state where a large percentage of wealth created by the working class is sucked up to the top. As for common law rights, you have no rights that cannot be abolished or restricted by a simple act of parliament, and if you think that some authority has infringed your rights then you have to pursue the matter in court at your own expense while the offending authority will fight you with the bottomless pit of taxpayers money - guess who will win? It is certainly a splendid system, it keep the plebs in their place and the elite in the manner to which they are accustomed.
Did you say war saved the world from fascism or did you say Britain saved the world from fascism? Neither is correct. Check the statistics. Why are we so proud of the lottery of being born in a certain geographical location.
@@ennuied Oh, pardon me! I keep forgetting that America won WWll single handed...
@@ennuied Because it's not a lottery. My ancestors fought for me to be born on this island.
Hi Rosemary. I love the humour of Noel Coward. Let's sing the song of patriotic prejudice together. " The English the English the English are best, I couldn't give tuppence for all of the rest. Hubris is a small price to pay for being English. Cheers, P.R.
As an indian , im so sorry we became independent. Ghandi should have stuck to being a lawyer and let the britishers manage us.
What a mircale british india was , no india as such , but a collection of kingdoms each with a raj loyal to the british crown and overseen by the viceroy delhi.
It just worked . Total tragedy that it all ended.
We're sorry the UK and India didn't stay in union. Imagine the good that could have been done for the world.
It all started with Britain wanting to trade spices but found a sub continent at war with itself, with lots of small kingdoms not good for trade, then hopefully left a Nation not at war with itself.
Gandhi is how we spell it.
@@PMA65537Ghandi or Gandhi - does it really matter? I mean in English neither घ gh nor ध dh is a phoneme in English, English speakers simply pronounce it as if it were spelled ‘Gandi’ or ‘Gahndi’.
But they know there should be an h in the spelling somewhere… which doesn’t make sense (to them) because ‘it’s not pronounced anyway’… and they don’t always remember where this ‘superfluous’ h belongs
Sometimes Jordan loses us in his explanations but he truly has an amazing mind
The common law is one of the greatest inventions of the human mind and a tremendous engine of human liberty. I miss it.
Tell that to the police.
One of my greatest concerns about the UK's membership of the EU was the fundamental lack of compatibility of our common law system with the EU's top-down civil law approach to governance (the latter served up with a copious amount of sneering superiority).
I think many British people sensed it, even if they could not articulate it, but it was frightening to see just how many Brits were blind to it. For those of us who believe passionately in the merits of the common law system, warts and all, we know that we exited the EU just in the nick of time.
What were the practical implications of the disparity in approach of the two legal systems that caused you concern?
Speaking as an English lawyer who works regularly with civil law jurisdictions I would argue that the economic and political consequences of Brexit massively outweigh the eminently resolvable differences between common and civil law approaches
Spread this video as far you can.
As an Englishman, I find it odd that so many people around the world don't like us (though it no longer bothers me). We gave the world so much - jurisprudence for one, but also so many inventions and discoveries - even the majority of the world's sports. Our music is heard all over the world (not just the Beatles!) and of course, our language is heard literally everywhere. Not only did we instigate the fight against 19th century slavery, we stood alone against Germany for two years (but with help from our colonial cousins) and we still police the seas - punching way above our weight for a tiny nation. EVERYTHING considered, England is without doubt the most remarkable nation on Earth. If England had never come about, the world would be a poorer place. I quite understand why Scots are so jealous of us, and we didn't treat Ireland very well, but that's all in the past. As for the future, well, we're in big trouble. Our politicians have seen fit to instigate a replacement of the indigenous English, and our finest times are gone. Those who are able will leave...as I would if I were young.
The British have gifted us the blessings of the Modern World!
Our Tragedy is that those who make a cult of shaming a Nation that has so much to be proud of never examine their own sins or crimes or have anything to offer that is any better!
Oh the English did that, did they? Nothing to do with the Welsh or Scottish?
@@cthutu
Well, you evidently missed that this video is about an ENGLISH subject, not a British one. There are many things the Welsh, and especially the Scottish, have done (so many discoveries), but I was writing about the ENGLISH.
You have to read better.
I live in northern Ireland a lived in Scotland for a few years n I've experienced English hate, was my first time n now 5 years later, I genuinely do feel different about my country.
Like being English automatically makes you a c***
I think that is just a common mistake made outside Britain, they don't understand that all English people are British, but not all British people are English.
I've even had letters addressed to me in Wales, England because Americans often think Wales is a county! We should have given the world our school geography curriculum too!
The Parisian never wanted to listen to Voltaire because of the still embedded feudal system, in what France in fact was an Parisian colony. And the Continental law system is a representation of that. A tool to control the citizens rather than a tool to serve the citizens.
I taught legal English abroad, learning about common law compared to Civil law, we're so lucky.
This is excellent and a long time overdue
Never a wasted minute listening to JP .
never a minute, its usually hours of pain listening to him trying to change the subject when he's challenged, before the usual tearful theatrics. fraud.
@@drfeelgood1961give me one example of this please?
Beautifully said. I adore the UK as well. It amazes me how people are desperate to see things in black and white not understanding it is absolutely necessary to see things in the context where things happened and how humans elevate themselves above them when facing challenges. And from that perspective, even though the UK is not a perfect country it is a country that throughout history aims and fights to be a better self. As you, I really despise the excessive sense of self-blaming going on at the moment, it is causing a huge harm to the country and allowing corrupted ideologies to destroy the country. Keeping humble and being proud of one's merits and achievements is not easy but I think the UK has to do it, to keep doing it.
Read Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England. It has much to teach that should be revived. Also, the works of Edward Coke.
Correct - Blackstone is THE authority on Coverture; which destroys the feminist concept of oppressive marriage.
Thanks for the recommendations.
God bless this man
Roger Williams was a miracle! He was born an Englishman, left for the New World due to rampant religious persecution, was excommunicated for religious differences by his then fellow puritans, in Massachusetts, then founded the colony of Rhode Island in utterly ambitious hopes of bringing about liberty of conscience, once and for all, to some meager corner of the globe.
The law of Rhode Island was an extension of Christian and English Common Law values, and brought such values to their logical conclusions, lending to the first government in the world to practice freedom of expression, freedom of religion (including non-Christian religions and atheism), separation of church and state, and made bold efforts toward civil equality.
He was a compatriot of and had influence upon Cromwell (rebel leader of the English civil War), and had a direct and major influence on Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers of America.
He was among the first free people of the world, turning the tide of all history before him.
Great post.
Yes indeed, excellent post!
Are there any links to books/resources that can be recommended to learn more about this incredible man and his life & times?
BS. Utter conflated lies.
The Puritans were Satanists. Witch hunting rabid fanatics.
They betrayed everyone they sucked in with their empty promises.
England abolished slavery when William the Conqueror took over in the eleventh century.
@@chrisdaniels3929 My understanding is that William the Conquerer banned the trading of slaves to overseas regions. Although not outlawed domestically, slavery within England, was nonetheless substantially reduced under his rule.
PS, I double-checked and was wrong... Slavery was not altogether abolished in the Colony of Rhode Island, in 1652. It was merely limited to ten-years - so, essentially RI permitted indentured servitude at that time. It wasn't until 1842 that Rhode Island abolished slavery altogether, something the colony of Vermont had perhaps arguably accomplished (nearly, anyway), well beforehand, in 1777. I have edited my original post to reflect this new insight.
Barack obamas half brother who still lives in Kenya, said Kenya was much better when the British were there.
Yes and it’s the same in India. My grandfather was sent to Burma in the WW2 and stayed there with the British army for 3 years. When the British withdrew its troops, my grandfather told me that the locals were crying when they left…
The Man, the Myth, the Legend - Wilberforce
Kingston-Upon-Hull
Visited the museum in Hull as a child and it left lasting impression on me.
Sadly slavery is still rife in many parts of the world.
Peterson the Magnificent. His abilities to organize an enormous amount of information into exceptionally organized around thought, is Supernatural.
Whats wrong with you? This is your 4th comment?? Bot?
Most Americans are unaware that the Patriot movement was British. It was founded in 1725. It stood for Civil Liberties, a fuller democracy and Free Trade. It was against political corruption and the international slave trade. Their activities resulted in riots in England against the ruling Tory Party and Rebellion in America. In 1825 they changed their name to the Liberal Party (Liberty) and so still exist in parliament to this day.
One of the ironies of the American Revolution was that the new USA moved to the Tory Right, whilst Britain itself moved to the Patriot Whig Left.
As a Brit I just live the way he uses the word ‘bloody’ to full effect!!
It's refreshing to hear someone who British acknowledge one of an overwhelmingly high number of positives our great country has contributed, and not simply tear us down for our follies.
Peterson the Magnificent . His abilities to organize and express complex enormous ideas is super natural. He is the Sage of all ages.
It's an excellent system - offers stability, predictability and the ability to evolve. Social expectations for justice are baked into the judicial system itself. Fantastic.
Well said sir,outstanding ❤
As an Englishman and a Christian I should point out that our law, morals, science and culture are founded upon 1600 years of belief that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that his life, death and resurrection give value, dignity and hope to all human life. Wherever Biblical Christianity flourishes, human beings flourish.
So you’re saying that English Common Law is based upon fairy tales and Santa Clause ?
I'm British and proud
British and proud of what? English common law has nothing to do with Britain, you do realise that Britain is not a country it’s a land mass and political union between England and Scotland we English patriots consider the British to be our enemy as we are a captive nation, the only European country without its own parliament!
As am I but I still think we are better and stronger as a part of the EU.
Yes be proud don’t be ashamed to be 🏳️🌈
@@miamijim5964 BS
@@miamijim5964the EU isn't looking strong.
Two fellas that I have always respected and admired...Ian Wright and Les Ferdinand. They are both proper English gents and Londoners, too. They both are as English, maybe more, as I am. I would never look at them as anything less. I'm white, by the way. They taught me something...being English is a state of mind and a right if you are born here and think like an Englishman/Woman. We're all in it together, as one nation. We only want the best for OUR country, even if that often is not possible.
I came back from Brasil a couple of weeks ago and the one thing that stood out for me is how Brasilians, rich or poor, are united in being proud to be who they are, regardless of their ethnic backgrounds. White, black, latino, indigenous south american indian and mixed race....all in it together, and united under one flag....Brasil! Brilliant to see and no ' them and us ' mentality. I loved it.
"They choose their Kings, the power of the king is not absolute or arbitrary"
Tacitus
This is the idea of government by consent. Where the leader is chosen by the people or is at least answerable to them. An idea taken by the Anglo Saxons from their homeland in Germany and transplanted into their new home in England. There it flourished and became a central part of the English political experience with powerful echoes in Magna Carta, the Glorious Revolution and the insistence of those Englishmen living abroad, the American Revolutionaries, that they would pay "No Taxation without Representation".
Can we put this on the school curriculum please?!
It's the same for the English Language and the French Language. English is from the bottom up and French is from the top down(mainly Paris). Which is why English has few rules (and too many words ha ha) compared to the many, French, very rigid rules that come down from the elites in Paris.
Fredrich Hayek once argued that the difference between the French and English ideas of Liberty have always come down to the differences in perspective on the origins of law, and thus legitimate State power to impose thereupon.
Being, where the French Philosophers viewed the law as being handed down by the State, and thus the State being the fount of all rights we get Progressivism, Socialism, and Fascism therefrom.
Whereas the English view was that the law *emerges* from the common practice of a people, in a place, over time, such that the law must be *discovered* - this being the basis for the English Common Law countries’ tradition of jurisprudence and precedent. And thus the people themselves are the origin of their own rights, which requires the State to be restrained from illegitimate against action against them. For this emerged Liberalism and the post-Burke conservative movements which sought to preserve Liberal institutions against false Liberals (e.g. Progressives and Socialists).
Liberalism was, in some sense, the re-assertion of the rights of the English (and the common law) against the arbitrary power of the Monarchy, which had for centuries since the Conquest, set aside more and more of the historical rights of the English. It’s of no coincidence that proto-Liberals like John Lilburn arrive on the scene at the same time as the English Civil Wars.
as an englishman, to hear jordan speak kindly over england and britain is awesome. its also no surprise to see jordan is better educated on our history than our own people. if the british people think we were worse than we actually worse back in the day, for example, regarding slavery, something people think britain was dreadful for, portugal transported TWICE as many slaves as britain on record, britain wasnt even close to the worst empire at the time.
The British Constitution is now under attack by the forces of chaos. Ref: Graham Moore, constitutional expert.
There is no such thing as a British Constitution...the infiltrators (British) HIDE 'UKS' powerful, protective ENGLISH CONSTITUTION to enslave us and forward globalism.Yes great advice to watch Graham Moore..the only expert on English Law, our rights the truth and how to stop tyrany .
The American Revolution started with American born Englishmen exercising their English common law rights from birth. Many modern Americans forget that fact on July 4th but Jordan says it so eloquently.
Yeah because Americans like alot of people have jumped on the whole Anti-English nonsense, and would rather claim to be of anything other than English decent
Mr Peterson gives me hope that humanity and sanity, based on fact and not emotional response, will succeed. 🇬🇧
I would love our king and Jordan to sit down and have a frank chat about the future of the U.K. and our wonderful commonwealth countries whom we adore each one ❤
Historically it was brilliant. But is modern England even a common law country any more? Since being part of the EU, our system has more in common with France than Australia.
No, we make our laws in Parliament, and that includes the modifying of common laws.
@@StudentDad-mc3puWe don't know. Everything has been outsourced to quangos. Similar to Europe. Intrest rates, farming, Ukrainan and Covid policy. None of this was debated in Parliament. We are not a common law country anymore.
Yes Common Law is still the dominant in our courts, judicial precedent is still the dominant factor.
Some, known as constitutional laws, cannot be modified in any way by mere parliamentarians. The living people are the principal ones, government is by public servants. Parliamentary 'sovereignty' is only an opinion, according to Hallsbury.
Several learned in law have clear details on this.
Too much of this subject is now omitted from education, including law schools.
@@motorvating Acts of Parliament produce primary legislation that supercedes both common law and constitutional documents.
Just one point. The American Rebellion happened long before the French Revolution, and the French Revolution was primarily a genocidal affair.
The Americans inherited the long tradition of English Common Law, the Magna Carta and Bill of Rights.
Trouble with Common Law is we have justices who ignore cited common law when it suits them, I have seen this first hand in the court room, time and again, they ignore their duty to uphold fundamental common law rights and freedoms. They follow their own agenda giving the impression they will never be brought to account.
The contrast between the tradition of English Common Law and French legalism stems from the European legal systems - epitomised by the Code Napoleaon - being modelled on Roman Law as cpdfied by Justinian. Common Law by contrast is Judge made, aggregative and empirical, case law being rooted in immemorial court practices, i.e. precedents. The development across this ancient practice of Parliamentary laws or Statutes, gives Britain a double system. Statutes converge somewhat on Roman practice. An example of this "doubleness" might be employment law where Statutes are supplementations of common law: "unfair dismissal" (Statute) specifying details of "wrongful dismissal" (Common Law). The overall contrast of Common Law and Roman Law mirrors the practice of inquistorial courts versus jury courts. In turn this is a deep cultural difference between Rationalism and Empiricism.
Oh can you imagine the current state of India if the British hadn't come? A billion subjugated, religiously oppressed, caste constrained, un-educated people. What would Indian revolutions have looked like in bloodshed terms? Lenin/Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot but on a large scale?
Millions upon millions of Indians who died in famines perpetrated by the British colonialists who exported rice to England while watching millions of children die of starvation … beg to differ.
Apparently: “They are a beastly people with a beastly
religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”
(Winston Churchill)
Thousands of years of mathematics astronomy architecture in India… and yet… people are out here posting ‘can you imagine the current state of India if….’
British education has fallen a long way. 👀
Can you imagine Ireland if the British hadn't come and turned it into a plantation? I can.
@@libertyfirst4083There was no unified Ireland before UK. UK did so much good for Ireland, blame UK for a potato blight and take no accountability for their own stupid decisions?
JP clearly wants to sell books in UK - sucking up big time…
@@rwentfordable The point, rwentfordable? The point is to leave people alone! Unified. Un-unified. Always squabbling. Never squablling...The English invaded Ireland with the intent to subjugate it. They market that subjugation by saying, here, let us save you from yourselves. If that means we have to kill a "few" of you, well, that's just the cost of us "helping" you. If that means cutting down virtually all of the forests and turning the naked land into plantations to grow food for us and taking your cattle and pigs and making fishing off your own shores illegal, why this is all in the way of "unifying, y'all." Please. Spare me.
First off: the American Revolution pre-dated the French Revolution. Both were preceded by the Gloriuis Revolution in England. Even before that British Common Law really only applied to British noblemen. Peasants had few rights u see the old system.
The American innovation was to extend British Common Law to include all citizens of the new USA. This was easy because colonial American society was much “shallower” that British society. Hardly any European nobles moved to North America, so most colonists were self-made-men or the descendants of pioneers who had cleared their own farms. In the Appalachian Mountains there were plenty of subsistence farmers, so no excess wealth to support a social hierarchy, mush less a noble class.
The only social stratification was in the coastal plantations of Virginia, the Carolinas and Georgia where second-sins owned plantations worked by slaves … much like the Southern parts of England where their families originated. Britain only bothered to eliminate slavery when it became less profitable than the new factories being built in the English mid-lands during the 1800s.
The Dutch revolt preceeded the Glorious revolution, which was actually the Dutch Republic's invasion. They even had to bring John Locke over to London because in the freedom of the Netherlands he could write his important works.
Jordan Peterson... Modern day intellectual hero ❤️
Thanks you for talking about William Wilberforce he battled his whole life against the empire.
Very smart man
Comparing the French approach and British approach you can just go to Africa and check the deference between the countries in Africa, governmental and legal system inherent form Brittan (Botswana, South-Africa Zimbabwe, Malawi, Zambia, Tanzania and Kenia) on the one side and then French (Congo Brazzaville and Cameroon) and Belgium (Democratic Republic of the Congo) on the other side. Doing project in "x-British" countries...you will make it....go and stay and work (for a few years) in the non "x-British" countries...this is not for the faint-hearted and make sure you have a good psychologist back home.
janesterhuysen4722: your comment is intriguing. I don't know the histories of these countries beyond the sweep of them having been part of British or French empires. Can you offer some clarifying examples?
Mentioning the names of which countries were controlled by which power already tells me what I need to know.
The British shit on the French 👍
There is no discernable consistent pattern in Africa, as you propose.
Top African countries such as Egypt, Ethiopia, and Algeria use code/civil law.
While the far more impoverished Liberia uses common law.
Seychelles, the top gdp pc country, uses a mix of both.
So no theres no causative link.
Civil law is also far more widely used worldwide.
Thank you Jordan for injecting a sense of pride back to the British people. Us Brits are so often told our past is something to be ashamed of but the truth is we was the birth of modern day freedom! We love and respect our fellow man, especially when that love and respect is offered back to us.
Every U.S. President should have 2 or 3 advisors like Jordan Peterson as part of their circle.
Is there a link to the full interview?
Telegraph logo top right. Just look up Jordan peterson telegraph interview
Where can i find the full video conversation?
Jordan peterson telegraph interview
I really hope my friends Ash, Bull and Wes watch this video and realise how lucky we are. #proud
How refreshing to hear someone capable of appreciating subtlety and nuance, and not being bowed down by the ridiculous (if it weren’t so crass !) pressures of the modern world-view.
Thank you, Professor Peterson
Perhaps black people could pay reparations to Great Briton.
Reparations are a common law right, against private property. In war, such as the Treaty of Versailles, reparations were a stipulation in said treaty, not fundamental law.
I have to confess I am not a philosophical heavyweight, Peterson said this in this video...
"rationality makes a very very bad Master, a very good servant but a very bad master"
I was just wondering if someone out in internet land can explain that to me. What would be bad about decisions being made on a rational basis?
It is an old idea, one that we find even in Vedic philosophy, that says that the discursive mind is a great tool for us humans to use, but is just that, a tool. This sort of rational thinking can solve the problems we encounter in the world, but when we let ourselves be governed by discursive thinking (as most of us are in the modern world) it will lead us astray. For the rational intellect on its own has no sense of true value. It can create value out of nothing through its own thought processes.
True value comes from our conscience, which is the higher part of our consciousness, in all cultures traditionally related to our immortal souls. This is the part of ourselves that is connected to the world at large and is therefore capable of understanding right and wrong, which is the harmony of natural law.
@@thijsdebacker9490 - rationality isn't always humane!!
thijsdebacker9490: Beautifully stated. I think, also, that this is what explains what can go wrong with AI. AI is brutally rational. This works fine in many cases, but then there are others where the result is bizarre, or even intolerable.
@@thijsdebacker9490 Hi. You make a good point. It seems to me that reason without compassion tends to become a tyrant, but compassion without reason becomes a slave to that tyrant.
It's a variation of the question, "which is most important, truth or love?" Without truth (reason) we become like the animals, but without love we also become like animals. Cheers, P.R.
‘Reason is the slave of the passions’. Reason is the means to the passions ends.
English Common L 4:18 aw is recognized in the US Constitution.
How can you put all the praise on the ‘sympathy’ of the British and not the resistance of the slaves?
Because the resistance of the slaves by itself wouldn’t have worked, whereas the “sympathy” of the English, as you put it, did.
Rouseeau versus Locke.
Rousseau's social contract bollocks gave the world both Fascism and Communism.
Rousseau can get f-ed.
Very hayek’ian!
Always good to hear his views.
An excellent summary. May the world take and learn.
The problem with English common law , is nobody knows it , including our police
Brilliant video. Where can I see the full interview please?
Similar to William Wilberforce, William Knibb's - slavery had to be abolished. He argued that until its abolition 'root and branch' there was no way of slaves enjoying everything the gospel had to offer.
We did not take anything away from King George. We GAVE the rights that the King kept as his own to distribute to his aristocratic friends as he saw fit, to all men. Essentially making EVERY MAN a king. This is where the concept of sovereign citizen comes from. We all have ALL of the rights of a KING. Abd they are listed in our Constitution.
No - England had acquired a Bill of Rights in 1689 in deposing James II/VII i a coup d'etat. Britain was a Constitutional Monarchy by 1776, and King George had no real power/authority to do anything anywhere. The U.S. Bill of Rights is very much based on the English Bill of Rights.
@@thehowlingmisogynist9871 Britain's Constitution was based on actual power, not a document. King George was therefore literally a sovereign-citizen, sovereign by convention and social power, and citizen by right. He could do what he did, such as sending Macartney's diplomatic mission to China, because he had the real world power of the throne as the most prestigious institution in Great Britain.
@@youbigtubership - No - Royal power was limited by the Bill of Rights etc. The Monarch could not raise an Army - therefore, could enforce nothing. Parliament could not hold a Standing Army for more than a year. You are confusing 'The Crown' with the Monarchy. The Monarch is part of that concept as a mere figurehead.
@@thehowlingmisogynist9871as amazing as it is the 1688 declaration of rights it is ignored by those who are bound by it and constantly create rules that make a mockery of it and we the people generally don’t know or understand our birth rights
Vive la BREXIT...! Let's hope TRUMP & FARAGE get to rule this time.
as an English woman it's so nice to hear this, nowhere is perfect and we've got our problems too just like everywhere else, but unlike everywhere else it seems a thought crime to feel proud of my nation
English has become God's defacto language maybe.
I got 2 years probation and a £300 fine for a speech crime in the UK. Trust me, it's a shit hole.
In prison for stickers?
@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 For calling my ex wife an un-PC name in an argument. She provoked it with phone recording sound. Set-up.
Those have been going around, I here. Sad.
You're meant to ask for a jury of your peers - not Piers Morgan, dufus.
These words are something a lot of younger British people need to hear, I know we are not perfect in any way but as a country we have achieved a hell of a lot. I know you will always get haters but ask them people where are you from . And let’s have a look at your history. To me the Victorian era was the best for British.
Bit smelly though.... 😂