please do more of this video series, i dont normally watch geogueser content but this series is just perfect. Calm and precise anylsises no youtuby over reactons. I love it
I love watching these "catch the cheaters in geoguessr" vids! You do such a great job in explaining, showing why you think they are/aren't cheating, and editing in stuff to help make your point. Plus your voice is so calming! Keep it up! 😄
I wish more GeoGuessr content creators understood how to craft a good video as well as you. Concise, entertaining, editing, audio, etc. Keep up the great work!
On the Vienna round, there is a glitch in the replay system where a guess won’t always show up if the guess is made in the last second or so of the round. It looks like he was about to plonk when the replay cut off. I’ve seen it happen a number of times watching replays after a duel where a guess is made but doesn’t show up on replay. Still shows in game summary just not replay. Hard to say, definitely not conviction worthy in my mind. Hope this helps!
Really interesting, thanks for the insight! I didn't know about that glitch.. It's another reason that the devs should give us access to a bit more information when we review, like seeing a few other rounds or summaries from rounds..
Learning more with your zoomed-in details and clear explanations than with most world-class players, much as I otherwise enjoy their videos. It’s probably a lot of editing work, so please know it’s really appreciated
I just watched most of the videos! Before taking a closer look, I just assumed that you were a big channel with lots of subscribers, views, and posts so I was shocked to see how underrated you are! I love the investigation videos - not only do we get your insight on where you think the location is but also the discussion of guilty vs innocent adds a nice layer 😄 Thanks for the good content!
These are definitely fun and interesting to watch! One thing I'd say is that while looking at a sign for a long time is indeed suspicious, if it's a sign that's not in the player's native script it's much more normal. I know when I see a Russian sign I'll have to basically read it one letter at a time so it'll take ages (although I might open the map to look for other names containing a specific letter to refresh my memory), and for a low ranked player that might be the *only* way to get information. I'd say this sort of thing is most likely for Cyrillic because it's closest to the Latin script so the barrier of entry is the lowest, but with people these days learning all sorts of scripts to improve at Geoguessr it could conceivably happen with all of them. There's also a risk here of being Western-centric and assuming "everyone can read the Latin alphabet fluently" which *might* be true for the demographic that's likely to play Geoguessr at all but I don't actually know, someone from Thailand might be as slow at reading Spanish as I am at reading Russian. That said, that particular Russian poster didn't look very promising to me, and I only play old-fashioned five round games (no duels) so I might not be very representative.
Yes, very good points! The manner in which they make the guess usually ends up being the most suspicious thing in cases where they are actually Googling rather than reading.. If they are slowly reading the script, they should still have to scan for the actual place on the map, but Googlers usually switch back from their other tab and zoom straight in to the correct place
zi8gzag reviewed the same round and I think someone said in the comments that the person did likely google the phone number/ area codes. (video was on 28. oct.; the round at 10:30)
I sometimes stop for 30 seconds on a sign, not because im googling it, but b/c Im just so utterly confused and space out for a bit, while making absurd guesses, that aren't even logically possible. I don't get accused though, b/c im usually in the united kingdom when the right answer is signapore. I almost never get it right lol
Haha yeah for sure, I do that too sometimes. It's the combination of really long pauses + obscure information on signs + unreasonably close guess that makes it suspicious of cheating
Thanks for another great video! It will be interesting to find out whether rounds get sent to investigations if the player didn't guess. You have the best teaching that I have seen. You highlight what you are looking at and you give clear explanations. I expect your channel will grow quickly.
Haha don't let me catch you snacking! Jk jk It's really the length of the pauses combined with the obscurity of the information on signs, the proximity of the guess, and the zoom level that people plonk from that I'm looking for
Nigerian round: They probably remembered that one of the places of the Nigerian red car is in Jalingo, and remembered that it is close to Jimeta. Felt legit to me. The Boa Vista Round, too. These are very Identifiable places, if you seen them once or twice.
For #2 (NZ) there was a sign that included the town name Methven. Methven caught my eye on the map in real time when the player zoomed in, so I think it's definitely just a good guess.
Ah gotcha! I missed that, definitely more evidence that it was legit. One of the things I enjoy about investigations is coming across the occasional nice legit guess
16:00 I mean if you've heard of any of these places it's definitely Windsor, which is by far the most well known as its a fairly major city right on the border with Detroit. I would have been baited by that and scanning in that area. It turns out to actually be about 7 hrs away from there, so to zoom in on that location based on the names of random tiny villages is ridiculous lmao. Populations of those towns Windsor 230,000 Maitland 1,100 Shubenacadie 411 Walton 96 Sure, it was Walton that gave it away right 🙄
Ah of course it was that Windsor! Didn't even occur to me. Definitely another great piece of evidence that cheaters are less likely to fall for the same sort of "bait" that legit players are
In team duels reviews can you see if they are typing something into the chat? As a frequent duels player sometimes I pause at weird points to type to my teammate if we aren’t in a call. Just curious if that is something to consider as possible during these awkward long pauses. These are seriously high production value videos. Good work.
Yesterday I got spawned in two separate BR distance games at the exact same location in Kuala Lumpur. I guessed just somewhere in the city for not being suspicious of cheating 😂.
love the geoguessr development team. people asked to know the player skill range, already implemented. Still think that they should show you several rounds for each person but that might be a thing in the future too.
1:02 at least once I experienced the replay map being the tiniest one despite the one in the actual game being the upsized map so clicking outside could be a replay bug but it seems hard to tell and the other behaviour is pretty suspicious 18:30 think that is a replay bug and the (last second) guess did not get captured but you could alternatively to check if something is under the marker use something like ublocks element zapper (may have to zap a few times if it the marker has nested elements) or try to select the target marker with inspect element and delete the dom-element
thanks for the tips! I didn't know the map size gets bugged sometimes, which could definitely explain how they were able to move the marker like that.. And that's a great idea about deleting some elements to uncover beneath the marker, didn't occur to me at the time but I'll keep it in mind for the future!
Idea form the video with your girlfriend. I don't know if this would work, but. What if you keep the game with the same rules. You blindfold yourself. After she flips the coin, she explains what she sees. you can guess if she is trying to tell the truth, or purposefully lying. If she is purposefully lying, and you guess that she is lying then you can guess where you are on the map.(no moving or zooming) But for example if you guess that she is lying, but she is actually trying to tell the truth. Then she guesses where she is on the map.(she can move and zoom) But her goal is to guess as far away from the actual location. The game only ends when you get 12'500 or 15'000 points in a 5 round game. You follow these same set of rules every round.
Thanks for the suggestion! I like the idea of making a concrete goal to achieve and having her make some guesses when I'm wrong! We may try this next time!
New brunswick was easy on that one. Red lettering(which is in 2 states I think) and they are switching from requering to not requering front plates. It's not a big state so the guess makes sense
Regarding the Vienna round, usually when I'm watching a replay of the person who guessed last (or didn't guess at all) I can see the countdown clock. So I would assume this person did guess and did not of time out. But maybe that's not how it works with these replays for investigation.
Getting near 5000 in Vienna is pretty easy if you know the city and the "Bezirke". This one is in the 1. Bezirk, a region of only 3 square kilometers. But the marker movement is suspicious I agree.
They should be giving you country info of the player. Seeing someone guess a random place from miles off is a lot more likely if they are from/near that area.
Yeah that would be great! Always a good chance that people will recognize places from outside their home country, but it would help with gauging the likelihood of a good guess versus cheating
I'm always looking for the length of time that someone stops on a sign combined with how long they scan the map and how unlikely the guess is So just reading a sign for a long time isn't too suspicious (especially a sign with a lot of text) but how that information is used is the important clue A googler doesn't need to open the map and scan for place names, they just zoom straight in to the right location, but a legit player will need to look around for a bit before they find any small places on the (in-game) map
To me #5 definitely looks like googling. The billboard doesn't have the name of the city or oblast just the street, so I'm fairly certain they googled the phone number
To me it doesn't look like a cheater, if you google the street on that billboard "улица Гостиный ряд" the correct location comes up instantly. Just before zooming in on the billboard player saw unblurred license plate with Nizhny Novgorod oblast area code, it would be easy to google but it's very possible to know it too. The fact that player instantly chose NN city instead of Arzamas does make it look legit.
I am not sure if I‘ve been reported for it but last week I literally had a repeat literally directly the game after. It was in the middle of the forest in Northern Finland and I basically 5ked it in 5 seconds… I‘ve not been banned yet at least!
Haha wow! I've never had a repeat so quickly. Hopefully the devs aren't banning based on one suspicious round, and that's not likely to happen very often!
Hey, when you're not playing duels but you're all by yourself is it considered cheating? Because I don't do it to get points im doing it so I can slowly learn about this country by googling info like road signs in different country. If it's cheating ill stop but I'm not sure as it is an the private daily game thing (I dont have the paid version)
@@kurterrkurt4212 fair enough! I'm always looking for a combination of long stops on signs with suspiciously close guesses without zooming in to the map and scanning!
Yes technically (any "external" help is considered cheating). Although it raises an interesting question since tools like that could even the playing field for people from countries where the native language is less helpful - i.e. if you only spoke Korean you would be at a disadvantage to someone who spoke English or Spanish which are spoken in a much larger area of the world..
Some people download browser extensions that read the game data and tell them exactly where the location is without having to do any effort. It's usually obvious because they can press a button and automatically guess a few meters away without zooming in
please do more of this video series, i dont normally watch geogueser content but this series is just perfect. Calm and precise anylsises no youtuby over reactons. I love it
Really appreciate you stopping by and saying so! Will do!
Just getting into Geoguessr, still a noob so I appreciate your quick explanation before each case so I can follow along and learn things too. +1 sub!
appreciate that!
I love watching these "catch the cheaters in geoguessr" vids! You do such a great job in explaining, showing why you think they are/aren't cheating, and editing in stuff to help make your point. Plus your voice is so calming! Keep it up! 😄
thanks so much😁
I wish more GeoGuessr content creators understood how to craft a good video as well as you. Concise, entertaining, editing, audio, etc. Keep up the great work!
I really appreciate that, thanks for saying so!
Love the mix of teaching & entertainment. Great series.
really cool editing, i can imagine it takes a lot of time and effort if you do it yourself. subscribed from a gold 2 no move player lol
Thanks for saying so! It does take a lot of time 😅
On the Vienna round, there is a glitch in the replay system where a guess won’t always show up if the guess is made in the last second or so of the round. It looks like he was about to plonk when the replay cut off. I’ve seen it happen a number of times watching replays after a duel where a guess is made but doesn’t show up on replay. Still shows in game summary just not replay.
Hard to say, definitely not conviction worthy in my mind. Hope this helps!
Really interesting, thanks for the insight! I didn't know about that glitch.. It's another reason that the devs should give us access to a bit more information when we review, like seeing a few other rounds or summaries from rounds..
Learning more with your zoomed-in details and clear explanations than with most world-class players, much as I otherwise enjoy their videos. It’s probably a lot of editing work, so please know it’s really appreciated
I just watched most of the videos! Before taking a closer look, I just assumed that you were a big channel with lots of subscribers, views, and posts so I was shocked to see how underrated you are! I love the investigation videos - not only do we get your insight on where you think the location is but also the discussion of guilty vs innocent adds a nice layer 😄 Thanks for the good content!
thanks so much! that's really kind of you to say. I also really enjoy making these investigation videos!
These are definitely fun and interesting to watch!
One thing I'd say is that while looking at a sign for a long time is indeed suspicious, if it's a sign that's not in the player's native script it's much more normal. I know when I see a Russian sign I'll have to basically read it one letter at a time so it'll take ages (although I might open the map to look for other names containing a specific letter to refresh my memory), and for a low ranked player that might be the *only* way to get information.
I'd say this sort of thing is most likely for Cyrillic because it's closest to the Latin script so the barrier of entry is the lowest, but with people these days learning all sorts of scripts to improve at Geoguessr it could conceivably happen with all of them. There's also a risk here of being Western-centric and assuming "everyone can read the Latin alphabet fluently" which *might* be true for the demographic that's likely to play Geoguessr at all but I don't actually know, someone from Thailand might be as slow at reading Spanish as I am at reading Russian.
That said, that particular Russian poster didn't look very promising to me, and I only play old-fashioned five round games (no duels) so I might not be very representative.
Yes, very good points! The manner in which they make the guess usually ends up being the most suspicious thing in cases where they are actually Googling rather than reading.. If they are slowly reading the script, they should still have to scan for the actual place on the map, but Googlers usually switch back from their other tab and zoom straight in to the correct place
zi8gzag reviewed the same round and I think someone said in the comments that the person did likely google the phone number/ area codes.
(video was on 28. oct.; the round at 10:30)
The Russia round, googling the 83147 immediately gives the right city. Pretty sure they Googled the phone number
I think so too! But wasn't quite 100% sure
I sometimes stop for 30 seconds on a sign, not because im googling it, but b/c Im just so utterly confused and space out for a bit, while making absurd guesses, that aren't even logically possible. I don't get accused though, b/c im usually in the united kingdom when the right answer is signapore. I almost never get it right lol
Haha yeah for sure, I do that too sometimes. It's the combination of really long pauses + obscure information on signs + unreasonably close guess that makes it suspicious of cheating
Thanks for another great video! It will be interesting to find out whether rounds get sent to investigations if the player didn't guess. You have the best teaching that I have seen. You highlight what you are looking at and you give clear explanations. I expect your channel will grow quickly.
Thanks for saying so!
These videos are teaching me not to be snacking while playing Geoguessr, lest I get accused of googling because I took a 15 second break.
Haha don't let me catch you snacking! Jk jk
It's really the length of the pauses combined with the obscurity of the information on signs, the proximity of the guess, and the zoom level that people plonk from that I'm looking for
I mean during a quick and intense dual round probably not ahaha
Nigerian round: They probably remembered that one of the places of the Nigerian red car is in Jalingo, and remembered that it is close to Jimeta. Felt legit to me. The Boa Vista Round, too. These are very Identifiable places, if you seen them once or twice.
Yep, makes sense! Always great to come across the occasional legit good guess
15:24 I would’ve gone Windsor next to Detroit
Great video, don't watch alot of geoguessr but really enjoyed watching this one!(:
thanks for saying so and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
This video is SO good and I’m loving the detailed, calm explanations
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
Really good vid i loved watching counterstrike overwatch and never even knew geoguesser overwatch existed,you have earned a subscriber.
Thanks!
For #2 (NZ) there was a sign that included the town name Methven. Methven caught my eye on the map in real time when the player zoomed in, so I think it's definitely just a good guess.
Ah gotcha! I missed that, definitely more evidence that it was legit. One of the things I enjoy about investigations is coming across the occasional nice legit guess
16:00 I mean if you've heard of any of these places it's definitely Windsor, which is by far the most well known as its a fairly major city right on the border with Detroit. I would have been baited by that and scanning in that area. It turns out to actually be about 7 hrs away from there, so to zoom in on that location based on the names of random tiny villages is ridiculous lmao.
Populations of those towns
Windsor 230,000
Maitland 1,100
Shubenacadie 411
Walton 96
Sure, it was Walton that gave it away right 🙄
Ah of course it was that Windsor! Didn't even occur to me. Definitely another great piece of evidence that cheaters are less likely to fall for the same sort of "bait" that legit players are
Yeah I was like, ONTARIO! then when they went into NB...
In team duels reviews can you see if they are typing something into the chat? As a frequent duels player sometimes I pause at weird points to type to my teammate if we aren’t in a call. Just curious if that is something to consider as possible during these awkward long pauses.
These are seriously high production value videos. Good work.
Yesterday I got spawned in two separate BR distance games at the exact same location in Kuala Lumpur.
I guessed just somewhere in the city for not being suspicious of cheating 😂.
haha yeah it really is inevitable to get repeats from time to time
love the geoguessr development team. people asked to know the player skill range, already implemented. Still think that they should show you several rounds for each person but that might be a thing in the future too.
Agreed! Yeah hopefully that comes soon!
1:02 at least once I experienced the replay map being the tiniest one despite the one in the actual game being the upsized map so clicking outside could be a replay bug but it seems hard to tell and the other behaviour is pretty suspicious
18:30 think that is a replay bug and the (last second) guess did not get captured but you could alternatively to check if something is under the marker use something like ublocks element zapper (may have to zap a few times if it the marker has nested elements) or try to select the target marker with inspect element and delete the dom-element
I have to assume that the person in question got the 5k to trigger a report.
Would be nice if the devs could include the suspect's score that round.
thanks for the tips! I didn't know the map size gets bugged sometimes, which could definitely explain how they were able to move the marker like that..
And that's a great idea about deleting some elements to uncover beneath the marker, didn't occur to me at the time but I'll keep it in mind for the future!
Just 600 sups? This contant is amazing, I bet you have 1000 at the end of the month!
Appreciate it!
Love your analysis
thanks! 🙏
When i started watching i thought it was a 30k subs channel but no! You only got 500 subs nice video!
Haha thanks!
Idea form the video with your girlfriend.
I don't know if this would work, but. What if you keep the game with the same rules. You blindfold yourself. After she flips the coin, she explains what she sees. you can guess if she is trying to tell the truth, or purposefully lying. If she is purposefully lying, and you guess that she is lying then you can guess where you are on the map.(no moving or zooming) But for example if you guess that she is lying, but she is actually trying to tell the truth. Then she guesses where she is on the map.(she can move and zoom) But her goal is to guess as far away from the actual location. The game only ends when you get 12'500 or 15'000 points in a 5 round game. You follow these same set of rules every round.
You can add or take away from the amount of points you have to achieve in a five round game to make is easier or harder for yourself.
If you want me to explain anything else I can try. Sorry for the long comment.
Thanks for the suggestion! I like the idea of making a concrete goal to achieve and having her make some guesses when I'm wrong! We may try this next time!
@@GeoJaydi Thank you very much!
New brunswick was easy on that one. Red lettering(which is in 2 states I think) and they are switching from requering to not requering front plates. It's not a big state so the guess makes sense
Good points!
Regarding the Vienna round, usually when I'm watching a replay of the person who guessed last (or didn't guess at all) I can see the countdown clock. So I would assume this person did guess and did not of time out. But maybe that's not how it works with these replays for investigation.
for some reason the countdown clock doesn't show when watching replays in investigation, not sure why
Getting near 5000 in Vienna is pretty easy if you know the city and the "Bezirke".
This one is in the 1. Bezirk, a region of only 3 square kilometers.
But the marker movement is suspicious I agree.
nice tip, thanks!
It seems he plonked it from a far. I know the street in Vienna, but I'd still have to zoom in a bit more.
They should be giving you country info of the player. Seeing someone guess a random place from miles off is a lot more likely if they are from/near that area.
Yeah that would be great! Always a good chance that people will recognize places from outside their home country, but it would help with gauging the likelihood of a good guess versus cheating
9:24, He is probably from Russia, because there was a sign with .NN = Nizhniy Novgorod and also there was an NSU = University in Nizhniy Novgorod
Oh interesting! That's exactly why I wasn't confident about cheating, I didn't know what info was there
one thing you could try is actually googling some of the stuff yourself and seeing what kind of information shows up
great idea! there's actually a funny example of that in my upcoming video
I read like a Neanderthal so I’m a little worried what that would look like
I'm always looking for the length of time that someone stops on a sign combined with how long they scan the map and how unlikely the guess is
So just reading a sign for a long time isn't too suspicious (especially a sign with a lot of text) but how that information is used is the important clue
A googler doesn't need to open the map and scan for place names, they just zoom straight in to the right location, but a legit player will need to look around for a bit before they find any small places on the (in-game) map
To me #5 definitely looks like googling. The billboard doesn't have the name of the city or oblast just the street, so I'm fairly certain they googled the phone number
Gotcha yeah, I was leaning that way but since the burden of proof is supposed to be 100% certainty, I wasn't quite there
To me it doesn't look like a cheater, if you google the street on that billboard "улица Гостиный ряд" the correct location comes up instantly. Just before zooming in on the billboard player saw unblurred license plate with Nizhny Novgorod oblast area code, it would be easy to google but it's very possible to know it too. The fact that player instantly chose NN city instead of Arzamas does make it look legit.
Thanks for the input! These are kinds of thing I don't know and why I didn't want to say 100% guilty!
Thanks. I love these videos!
Thank you!
I am not sure if I‘ve been reported for it but last week I literally had a repeat literally directly the game after. It was in the middle of the forest in Northern Finland and I basically 5ked it in 5 seconds… I‘ve not been banned yet at least!
Haha wow! I've never had a repeat so quickly. Hopefully the devs aren't banning based on one suspicious round, and that's not likely to happen very often!
Hey, when you're not playing duels but you're all by yourself is it considered cheating? Because I don't do it to get points im doing it so I can slowly learn about this country by googling info like road signs in different country. If it's cheating ill stop but I'm not sure as it is an the private daily game thing (I dont have the paid version)
Nope, that's a great way to learn! Highly recommended! Just don't submit and record attempts or anything and you'll be fine!
@@GeoJaydi Thanks :)
great stuff!!!
W vid. ❤❤ Subbed!
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@@GeoJaydi I love how you explain why you did that choice! So helpful! keep up the good work!! ❤
Can you do more catching cheaters please
yes! I'm editing one now
I just learned how to read Russian it takes time to read :D don't report me if you see me here one day
@@kurterrkurt4212 fair enough! I'm always looking for a combination of long stops on signs with suspiciously close guesses without zooming in to the map and scanning!
So how did you stop them?
These reports are used by developers to ban cheaters
If you don't speak a language or speak a language somewhat, is using a translator or dictionary cheating?
Yes technically (any "external" help is considered cheating). Although it raises an interesting question since tools like that could even the playing field for people from countries where the native language is less helpful - i.e. if you only spoke Korean you would be at a disadvantage to someone who spoke English or Spanish which are spoken in a much larger area of the world..
@GeoJaydi I would consider it cheating. Learning the language is just like learning the flag, ballards, street signs, and other meta.
@@tompeled6193 I consider it cheating too
But it’s not that cheating we should fight unless it’s a tournament
I mean using physical dictionary book, not Google
so if you have 3 screens you have been cheating, cuz you can in fact click off the map when you have 3 screens
weird vid, lots of assumptions being made...
What is Scripting?
Some people download browser extensions that read the game data and tell them exactly where the location is without having to do any effort. It's usually obvious because they can press a button and automatically guess a few meters away without zooming in
I really dont get why you would cheat at Geogussr. How tragic does you life ahave to be to do so?
Seriously