Germany's Historic Election Results Explained
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Germany's Brandenburg's SHOCK Results! 🔥 The ruling coalition faces MAJOR setbacks, but there's a twist you won't see coming! Is this the beginning of the end for Chancellor Scholz? 🇩🇪👀 This video will explaing what this means for Germany's future!
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The SPD in Brandenburg didn't win because of Scholz but despite of Scholz.
It is a saying if it isn't broken then don't fix it.
Even though the spd itself gained 7 seats, the coalition partners lost 13 seats, giving the coalition a net 6 seats loss
Edit: math fails
You mean 6 seats
@@andremitreuter5397 yes my apologies
@richardyong535 yeah but he's trying to pretend it was a win
Scholz‘s Comeback?
Woidke refused any appearance of Scholz in SPD‘s Brandenburg. The SPD got good results in Brandenburg despite Scholz‘s lack of popularity.
Local elections are NOT a voting on the popularity of the federal administration.
im from brandenburg. you are 100% spitting the facts.
in some federal states they are, in others they are less so. NRW Landtagswahl is very much a kleine Bundestagswahl. Brandenburg has always been way different and continues to be a peculiar state among the east german states, with demographics being wildly different from the rest of the east (and the whole of Brandenburg becoming more and more of a suburbia for Berlin).
@@ithemba There are political topics decided on the federal level and there are political topics to be decided in the Landtage.
Of course those elections are important but a federal administration shouldn't be judged based on Landtagswahlen.
@@mahuhude but political trends from the federal level very much do trickle down into Landtagswahlen. As I said, in some states more than others. The vast majority of german voters has no idea about policy being decided in their Landtag and know maybe the MP and one or two other members of the Landesregierung tops.
And centrists that would normally vote cdu voted spd just to block afd , but that is never sustainable in the long term
SPD won because voters of the Left and the Greens voted them and in the process they were both cut out. I would call that Pyrrhic victory in spades.
let's be honesy mate, the government coalition did atrocious.
The FDP and Greens failed to reach the threshold.
This is barely a win for even SPD.
Well, Scholz and SPD managers were banned from the election campaign in Brandenburg.
Because the local citizens hate them so much.
both of these parties have been historically very weak in the east, often failing to reach threshold before. It has very limited representational value for national trends or votes. Brandenburg has half the population of Berlin and 12 % of NRW.
Wrong. We, the Greens, have been in parliament for the last 10 years+. We lost representation in two states, which is unprecedented because we always managed to get in. We are in government in 8 states. We used to govern in 11. I hope we get a turnaround. @@ithemba
oi mate teh fackin goverment coala ion did terrible innit?
Their vote was artificially inflated by people wanting to not make afd largest party
You combat the AfD not by forming hair-brained coalitions, but by listening to the reasons people vote for them and giving them at least some of what they want. You have to govern the whole country, and that includes people who want things that you might not, ignore them, and they'll move to the extremes. I fear this lesson won't be learned in time.
Germanies coalition has actually become much more anti-immigration. Yet this has actually lead the AfD to gain because these voters dont vote on policy but their percieve anti-establishment credentials. If anything it has only hurt their base which is now also less likely to vote for them.
No, absolutely not. This "listening to the concerned citizens" is what brought us into this mess. When other parties try to do something like that, it only validates and strengthens the AfD. This is downward spiral into right extremism, and that is what we are experiencing right now. What you should instead do is to ignore them, follow your plan, modernise the country, create opportunities and the problem will fix itself.
I really like the 1st and 2nd vote system. It sounded very complicated at first during the thuringia and Saxony elections but honestly I think its a great system that should be implemented in more countries!
The main negative point is that it could bloat the parliament
@@Minifutzi_o.Owell it does. I think in the Bundestag we have a maximum number of seats but I'm not sure
@@fhsvsoxifdv Well now we have. Under the old law the Bundestag could be as big as the Überhangmandate demanded it to be. Germany has the second biggest parliament, only behind China
Not Could but *will* the question is just how Strong ^^
The electoral system is not perfect, but very close.-
The current " traffic light government " has created a mechanism at the federal level to prevent parliament from becoming bloated.
Actually this election system is very good! It seems very fair.
As you pointed out the credit of this victory goes to Woidke! Moreover, like shown in video 75% voted to stopped Afd. I am glad SPD stopped AfD but I fear that Scholz will take this as a sign that SPD is supported and approved, which is just not the case! SPD needs to wake up and realize they did a bad job and admit it. Germany needs recovery and healing. Otherwise AfD will overtake Germany.
Good to see acknowledgement of issues without jumping to extremes.
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I don't think there's much risk of Scholz feeling he's popular. The sideways shift on immigration seems to indicate the party's awareness to me, and they're going to know about the exit polling and understand why.
I'm not so sure that the major challenges facing Germany (and Europe) are addressed well by any of the parties (least among them AfD and the new nutters from the far Left). No one in Germany seems to address the structural and cultural issues made clear in Mario Draghi's recent report.
You may know of folks who are, as you're likely better informed than I am. I'm certain no Scholz supporter, but when it comes to the German economy and social situation, this all seems like decades in the making to me.
Rigged democracy in Germany. The so-called opposition party CDU animated their voters to go for Woitke .
Let’s be honest, the AFD is a classical liberal party. The most “right wing” a party like that can be is “center left”. People need to stop pretending classical liberal and mixed socialist parties are “extreme” in the west.
It’s all in relation to eachother and let’s not forget that at the American Indepencee and the French Revolution the democracies were violent far leftists.
Imagine the Greens getting bashed by all sides and then losing votes in an election, who could've thought. 🤷♂
Historic. With AfD at 29%.
Afd cringe
@@dylancoykendall554 I bet your nose is really big and you like to rub your hands together like a fly
@@dylancoykendall554what makes Afd cringe dude ?
@@dylancoykendall554you wanna have more illegal Muslim immigrants?
@@kenzo1091apparently it’s cringe to love your Homeland, and your people.
I can only hope that Scholz doesn’t get a comeback. That man needs to leave office.
Hopefully, the FDP breaks the traffic-light-coalition over this 🤷🏻♀️
Lindner made some noises about it after Thuringia and Saxony... But I'm sceptical all in all
@@thepax2621 FDP would commit suicide if they cause early elections right now. FDP came in under 2 % in all of the three state elections.
The SPD could confirm a Ministerpräsident with the CDU, they just wouldnt be able to pass laws. If there is a Patt (half agrees, half disagrees), a law isnt passed but in Brandenburg, you need a constructive vote of no confidence (vote to oust the Ministerpräsident AND replace him), which cant be done with an AfD, BSW opposition.
Afd nin genel parti programı nedir
So a government that will do absolutely nothing; the epitome of status quo, i.e. the SPD and CDU.
You can't confirm a Ministerpräsident with half of the votes. You need half + 1. He would only be acting Ministerpräsident and couldn't even make changes to his cabinet. So that's a stupid idea that won't happen. Brandenburg is likely going to end up with a SPD-BSW coalition as it's the only feasible option if no one from the BSW suddenly decides to join the CDU.
@@Baysal_Alisan hepimiz gidiyoruz, bitti
@@konplayz if you ever looked at the SPD, especially in places where they are/were in the goverment, its because its a party of academics. Only people in labour unions, university students feeling nostalgic for the 1950-1980s SPD and such people vote for the SPD, not the average worker.
If it were to do stuff for the average man (i.e. shift the focus away from the gender/enviromental politics and back to "how do we make people richer") it wouldnt be in the suck-ish place it is.
This counts for most socialdemocratic parties in europe (austria, france, etc.), which is why most of them get sent to the shadow by a more radical party.
Scholz had nothing to do with this.
Remember 10 years ago the far right were the fringe of a fringe, now the most powerful parties breathe sighs of relief when they beat them in elections they would have walked a few years ago. Marie Le Pen's party in France had 0 seat in 2007, now they have 143. And with every year the only thing propping up the established parties is their immigrant legions. Millions of Africans are forecasted to arrive in Europe over the next few decades as climate migrants. It will just keep getting worse and worse.
Then stop and deport the invaders. Far right becomes a thing of the past.
Fairly certain it's not just immigrants considering you need citizenship to vote...
So help fix climate climate to reduce the amount of refugees
@@marangod2347 Which is why i said they were 'propping up' their vote.
Demographic transition being weaponised by left wing parties against the Right is openly spoken of in the US. Although there the importation of millions of socially conservative, anti-communist Catholics from Latin America has backfired spectacularly for the Dems.
the only thing inmigration is propping up is the far right replacement theories
Polls say 9%, not 32 for the chancellor's national approval rates
Some clarifications: In our federation power is not only split between Germany and the States but also between those and the communes (sometimes there are also other levels of decision-making which is possible because federalism works recursively)
It is important to keep in mind, that the loss for the greens was to be expected as they had major support from FFF when the last vote happened which almost doubled their success for a short period of time all across Germany. So while the greens are currently losing in all elections, their voters seem to be relatively stable still (though that might change, if the greens shift further to the right and some other green-left-wing alternative presents itself to them). The FDP is also known for fluctuating in their success a lot, so their results are not enough to project how they will do in the future. Though there is a clear trend of the SPD and CDU losing, I still think it is worrying that your stream had the SPD losing on it's thumbnail, despite them gaining votes being predictable beforehand which showed to me, that you are no expert at the Brandenburg elections. For that reason I would recommend asking locals in the future.
One thing you didn't cover enough is how the left party loses all over east Germany, a result that can be attributed to the BSW's growth mostly but that also was a result of their strategy of getting voters from the greens failing
I love how it explains why people voted for SPD and then for AFD.
People voted for AFD to support their ideas, then people voted SPD to cockblock AFD.
It just looks hilarious, like did SPD had any program to begin with or you just cut it out to AFD program?
SPD barely won lol
Good video. Surprised the SPD managed to stay on top despite the rise of the AfD in East Germany.
5% threshold for an assembly with 90 seats is absurd.
If the centre parties fail to act on the needs and wants of the people, the people will inevitably vote further left and right until the government listens.
And they continue to vote far-left and far-right until our demise.
@@DGAMINGEN Sadly that's very true.
@@DGAMINGENGermany hasn't had a party with the ideas of AFD since the 90's/ early 2000's.
We would be happier with Boris Pistorius (our defence minister) to be the candidat for the SPD then Scholz. He is the only defence minister who didnt f**k things up and doesnt have brain issues. Its so sad to see the state of Germany.
Bruh, it's not a difficult job, especially if you get 100 billion dollars, despite our economy crumbling.
Damn, this pistorius guy really turned his life around after unaliving his girlfriend
@@fedyx1544wait what
@@ninototo1it's a joke about the athlete oscar pistorius
@@Agomacule Thanks
Thank you for an excellent presentation.
Glad it was helpful!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Note that the premier of Saxony, Michael Kretschmer (CDU) who recently just had their election on September 1st endorsed the SPD on September 15th on an anti-AFD ticket. If we were to look at the polls, that seemed to have move 3-4 points away from the CDU to the SPD.
How did that go over with the Federal leadership of the party? I would imagine they wouldn't be on board with that considering the CDU was running.
@@Edmuresrampantmanhood-dp3jd Given that Kretschmer is one of the Deputy Leaders of the CDU, I can't imagine he did not tell someone on the Federal Leadership about it. That being said, Redmann, the chair of Brandenburg CDU was not happy about it.
In Hungary we have a similar system, and I think this German method is the best. The district are directly represented, and give the major winner a plus weight, while the list mandates ensure, that the minor parties also receive some seats. Counterexamples: Great Britain, where Labour won almost two third of the seats with 1/3 of popularity; or Netherland, where it is very hard to make coalitions due to many parties.
Hungary does not have the German system. In Hungary the party list doesn't compensate the smaller parties and bigger parties that already have FPTP seats get even more porportional seats.
Best system would be Netherlands, except with no threshold +party members get to vote for the candidates prior to the election, with members getting 1 vote each.
Can someone explain why SPD received in proportional vote 13 seats(with 30 percent), while the AFD only 5(with 29 percent)? Didn’t really understand how it works.
The system may be biased to stop AFD 😅😅 . Just Kidding 😅
The table cannot properly capture how this thing works.
29.2% is 30 seats and 30.9% is 32 seats. AfD already got 25 seats from the first vote, so they got 5 extra. Meanwhile, SPD got 19 seats from the 1st vote, which gave them 13 more seats.
SPD = 19 + 13 = 32 (30.9%)
AfD = 25 + 5 = 30 (29.2%)
BSW = 0 + 14 = 14 (13.5%)
and so on
The 2nd vote determines the overall proportion and the 1st vote determines which person gets directly elected.
He literally explained it in the video.
@@retrictumrectus1010 thank you
@@MellonVegan If I understood from his explanation, I wouldn’t have wrote the comment… genius.
You could at least add a time stomp for other people too(maybe they didn’t notice).
The way they structure their government is very fascinating, and I especially like the two vote election system where the second vote is for the party and not any individual candidate
Why do so many people in the comments not understand addition?
maybe i should have explained it better :D
Forming huge coalitions of widely different parties might work in the short term, but at some point the AfD will start getting absolute majorities by getting more votes from those governments’ incompetence
Germany and the entire world tbh needs something like the 'new deal' in 1930s US
Thanks!
Thank you ! ❤️
Die Grünen (und Linken) zu verlieren wars nich wert. Lieber ne Koalition aus 3-4 Parteien und die AfD ist stärkste Partei als dieser Pseudoerfolg von "Die AfD wurde nicht Erster!" bei dem a) kaum Koalitionen zusammenkommen b) alle möglichen Koalitionspartner rechts bis mitte sind
Genau mein Humor! Wer glaubt, dass die SPD in 2024 und das BSW, Splitterpartei der Linken, Nachfolger der PDS und Nachfolger der SED nicht links sind, hat den Schuss nicht gehört.
Für ihre diskriminierenden Ansichten bezüglich Hautfarbe und Geschlecht haben Linkspartei und Grüne außerdem genau das bekommen, was sie verdient haben. Lange hat es gedauert.
Thanks for the explanation of the German federal system.
On one end I wish AFD and BSW would put aside their economical views and make compromise for the greater good, however BSW is essentially forcing the the “mainstream” parties to work with them, and through this we’ll never the less get some of AFD’s social policies.
*Doctor Hans-Christoph Berndt 😉
The SPD should go back to being a party of Socialism
I agree left wing populism and civic nationalism I think is appropriate to counter fascism and authoritarian leftism. However, I am mostly liberal on policy, so I am not a fan of socialism unless highly checked. I like how macron managed the whole France situation pretty recently.
The SPD is famous for not doing that. Starting before WW1 and even now they still refuse to e.g. socialize housing, That's way there were always parties that splint from it like USPD (~1910) and Die Linke (~2000) that are actually socialist.
@@JeferonConor Macron is the biggest fuck up in the 5th french history, nobody likes him at all. He makes policy for millionaires
@@JeferonConorby electing a rwinger whose party only got like 9% of the vote?
@@bloodwargaming3662 I think preserving the liberal governance for as long as possible is better for society as long as it is within the rule of law and democracy. Once the democratic socialists beat the fascists and us which they should, they will enjoy support from us liberals when it’s their turn to govern. Time have changed, we are no longer on opposite sides as we face a common threat to our collective liberty and way of life from fascism.
Thx for the coverage
Thanks for the summary
I think BSW would agree to a confidence and supply deal
I wish Germany had a more pro Ukraine right wing party like Swedens Swedish Democrats.
Swedens should pay support for Ukraine alone. Swedish tax money goes to Ukraine....
@@XY-uc1tw I love supporting a democracy against a imperialist warmongering bastard like putin. We can use the money we spend on migrants to help Ukraine instead.
The Greens are out❗But why❓
Because they are very unpopular. The Reason is the minister of foreign things and the economics minister in the Federal government. They suck
Technically, because they failed to get 5% of the second vote. This rule was introduced to kepp the parliaments from being split up into countless minor fractions, which would make the forming of a working gouvernment even harder.
Politically because their federal mimister for economics, Robert Habeck, is very unpopular and because some of their central policies, f.ex. making heating facilities more environment friendly and their positive stance on immigration, are pretty unpopular. While this is partly due to exaggerated propaganda in parts of the national press, one does get the feeling that they lost touch with the daily struggle of ordinary citizens.
Because they are a gaggle of superstitious fools.
@@memeboiii8089 Habeck is one of the most popular ministers. The only one who is more popular is Pistorius.
The Greens were never really popular in the east in the first place. So it was not really a surprise.
Scholz's comeback it says 😂😂😂
These elections are so disappointing. So close, AFD is so close to winning. Its ok tho, hopefully they'll have better luck next time
Overall a good video, just some points to add.
As you figured out, the victory for the SPD was because of Dietmar Woidke and the wish to have a party to win against the AfD, not because everybody loves the SPD. Iam also not completely sure how much this success of the SPD will help Olaf Scholz, because Woidke didnt want Scholz to participate in the Brandenburg election campaign. After all of this, the campaign without Scholz seems to be more succesfull, and Scholz also lives in theBrandenburg capitol Potsdam, so he was also a voter in this election.
Another important point to talk about, are the percentages. If you count the 4 parties who will be in the parliament, then you see they having around 85%. So whats with the other 15%?
In Brandenburg there are two ways for a party to get into the parliament.
The first one ist to get at least 5% of the 2nd votes.
The second one is to get one of the 1st votes (direct mandate), then the percentages from the second voted will counted proportionate.
So the 15% are the parties who failed both, not 5% and no direct mandate from 1st votes.
But what happens now with the missing 15%?
These 15% will be split proportionate to the parties who successfully went into the parliament.
Means in the end the parties who were successfull also getting rewarded on top.
Its because otherwise 85% from 88 seats would result into only around 75 seats would be occupied.
So after thinking about that, many people in Brandenburg and Saxony wanted to vote "tactical'" against the far right AfD.
To add something - I grew up in Brandenburg and now living in Saxony, so Iam all in into these two elections.
Both - the CDU in Saxony and the SPD in Brandenburg, which both having the function of minister president in their federal state,
told everybody its just between them and the far right AfD and it tactical to vote CDU in Saxony and SPD in Brandenburg to prevent
the AfD becoming the strongest party in parliament.
Iam sorry to say but thats just bullshit in my opinion.
That only leads to the result, that smaller parties maybe dont make it into the parliament and giving many % away, also to the far right AfD.
In Saxony you having the same election rules as in Brandenburg, with one addition - you need two direct mandates (1st vote winners) instead of only one.
Thats the reason why the left-wing party "Die Linke" made it into the parliament, they won 2 direct mandates from the first votes in Leipzig.
Otherwise they would be out, because the only got 4,5% of the needed 5%.
Nearly the same with our green party "Bündnis90/Die Grünen". They got 2 direct mandates - one in Leipzig, one in Dresden, so that they are in.
They didnt needed the first vote direct mandates in the end, because they got 5,1% of the needed 5% but it seemed like they would be below 5% for long time while counting the votes.
This leads to the point that in Saxoy we still having 6 parties in the parliament and only around 9% to divide from the parties which didnt made it in.
In Brandenburg the opposite happend.
The left-wind party "Die Linke" (3%) and the green party "Bündnis90/Die Grünen" (4,1%) were not successfull in reaching the 5% and nobody won a direct mandate from the firste votes besides the SPD and the AfD, so they also failed to get in with the direct mandate rule.
There was also another party "BVB/Freie Wähler" - they are a liberal-conversative party which was part of the last parliaments.
They won 2014 and 2019 a direct mandate (first votes) and managed to get in. In 2019 they even reached the 5% of the 2nd votes.
All 3 of them are out now.
Tactical election would be to try to get more of them to 5% or to try to get them a direct mandate.
This would have had helped the winnig party to have more possibility to form a government and the AfD would have gotten a far lower share from the parties who didnt made it in.
Ah and to add another point: the FDP ("liberal party" - but more liberal-conversative) was nether a big thing in eastern Germany, even if they are part of the national government at the moment.
Iam not sure what to think about the 3 elections in Brandenburg, Saxony and Thuringia.
Its shocking how many people voting the AfD even if its known that their federal parties in the 3 named federal states are proved far-right extremists, even the candidates in Thuringia and Brandenburg are proved far-right extremists.....
We shouldnt forget that also many topics were related to national government topics.
The biggest topics in the Brandenburg election were social safety (20%), economical development (19%), migration/refugees (17%), education (12% - Brandenburg is ranked low in the federal state comparison. Each federal state can do their own education program and many people want to have the same education plan in whole Germany (89% in 2020)), criminality/inner safety (12%), climate protection (9%) and the Russian war in Ukraine (9%).
Many people are disappointed in east Germany about the national government (SPD, FDP, Bündnis90/Die Grünen). Also many remember ther 16 years of Merkel (CDU) and are still disappointed. Then there are already 4 "big parties" out. The left-wing party "Die Linke" was once strong in Germany but their internal affairs ruining their party at the moment. The secession of the BSW from Die Linke also made it more difficult, espacially if the secession party BSW was very successfull in each of the 3 elections.
Talking about the BSW, we dont really know what they want at all. Its a new party, doesnt even exist for a year now and got that much success.
Till now we only know that they want strong restriction in terms of refugees and they want to cancel the help for Ukraine, especially the military one.
Its also like a one (wo-)man show with Sarah Wagenknecht (love to call her Zarenknecht), the federal BSW parties dont even having 100 members and the ones who are in came from like every party (exception AfD as much as I know). So so political line is the line of the one person - Sarah Wagenknecht.
If you hear them talking about the Russian war, you will become sick! Its like she repeats Putin and it scares me that she gained that much strength.
But to be honest, she is a charismatic person, but hearing her say dumb stuff, knowing that she is intelligent enough to know that what she says is bullshit makes it even harder.
At least the BSW was the answer if you was disappointed with the existing older parties and you didnt wanted to vote the far-right AfD.
But in the end they only had the two topics refugees and Russian war which both cant be solved by a federal state government...
These 3 election were the last ones, with the exception of the city-state Hamburg, till the next national election for whole Germany.
To see that all parties in the Bundestag (national level government) integrate phrases from the AfD, in the hope to get some voters from them makes me sad (exception the left-wing "Die Linke" but they having internal problems as already said).
Also that they keep saying, "Die Parteien der Mitte / Die Parteien des demokratischen Spektrums" - the parties of the political center / the parties of democratic spectrum which includes CDU, SPD, FDP, the green party and some count them in, some out - the left-wing "Die Linke" against the AfD.
I also want to add that there isnt a big "party-binding" in eastern Germany. If you are a 70 year old man or woman, then you only know the "western parties" since a bit more than 30 years. Before hat, there was the socialist dictatorship of the SED. So the voters also tend to change the party they want to vote. So if they think the party they elected did a bad job, then they will try another party in the next election. There are other effects in western Germany - there a 70 years old person already know at least the SPD, CDU and FDP for their whole life and many stick to one party since many many many years, doesnt mind if they do good or bad in their opinions. But thats especially a phenomenon for the older people.
And now instead of the parties solving problems they keep saying, we need to fight the far-right or the problems with education, rooming and more only appeared because of refugees is bullshit.
The people arent interested in major morality, they are interested in fixing existing problems.
The refugess/migration quastion is a big one since 9 years now and its still not solved.
The infrastructure is desolate in many parts of Germany.
The prices for rooming in cities cant be payed.
The wish for many people to own an own little house is also nearly impossible at the moment, its far too expensive - you will need to work your whole life off if you want to buy one, especially in more populated areas. A big point here are taxes and increased prices for building materials.
The digitalisation is not really here - government offices say their processes are digital if you can request something online and then they print everything out and then putting it into a folder and answer with a letter instead of an email or a online-portal for the answers.
Also we pay the the highest prices for the fewest performance to get internet access. There fiber-cable building up is also way way way too slow - you pay over 40€ for 50Mbit/s download...
Additional, like every office application takes longer than building pyramids in Egypt, if you can get an appointmant at all.
Prices for food increased, taxes on staple foods even increases them more.
The transformation from the economy and the electricity to renewable energy is way too slow.
The quesation of climate protection is also very difficult, because the parties before slept on invest into renewables and climate friendly building and prefered to give the money to the fossil ressourece companies. That lead the national government party of "Die Grünen" (green party) to want to make very quick changes but most of the people cant afford them, they just dont have enough money for quick and radical changes... that lead to a huge decrease in the popularity of the green party, alongside the eternal conflicts in the government coalition.
The question about public trafic, especially the train situationm with the DB is horrible. Many trains are too late and sometimes you are happy if the trains arrives at all and on top of this great service they make the ticket prices more expensive for like every year...
These are all topics the people want to get solved.
Many arent interesed in moral debates - they just want change, so they seek for somebody who promises this to them, even if they cant really solve the problems...
The future will show which way the federal states and the whole country will walk on.
You mention the political persecution of the AfD leader but refuse to acknowledge the nature of it.
If scholz wants an comback he needs to make the döner for 2€
thats exactly 44 seats PRO-Russia and 44 seats CON-Russia
Why so much support for Russia in Germany?
@@ganh222 germans are seemingly wary of sending trillions to ukraine. how unreasonable of them?!
@@ganh222Specifically in East Germany. For various reasons, including that they lived in a Russia-dominated dictatorship for half a century.
@@ganh222In the East of Germany. Bc the East is politically underrepresented, poorer, aging, and generally worse off. They always had a party that kind of served as their regional protest vote. It used to be Die Linke (literally the party of the GDR's one party system, just rebranded and much more moderate today) and then it became the AfD.
Oh and populist parties have a tendency to just advocate for the opposite of what the government is doing. The AfD is notorious for this.
Every party in Germany is pro-Russia. They are historical friends.
Poland should be federal state
Everyone in Germany hates him
No
@@nettcologne9186 I voted for him and regret it now.
32% dont, as shown in the video at 3:31... And the other 68% dont hate him. We could have a much worse chancellor (Friedrich Merz...)
If I am the one making the table, to help those who do not know better, I would put the 2nd vote on the first column, and then the total seat won on the second column, and then an equal sign, and then the 1st vote seats and then the "extra seats" or "remaining seats". I wont call the "extra seats" "2nd vote seats". It makes things less confusing.
But maybe this may not work at specific cases.
Commenters, can you stop whining about people calling the (insert party) far-(insert direction)...
For Five Seconds???
You do realise that AfD is THEY far right party.
If you start glorifying the nazi regime you are on the wrong side of history.
@@MijnAfspeellijst1234 They are not Far-Right and if they would glorify the nazi regime, then they would be Far-Left socialists.
You try that system in third world and you will find states declare breakaway within a year or two 😅😅
BSW is doing fucking amazing for a baby young party, love their far left economic policies with conservative social stances, thats the future for Germany, OG proletarian working class party like the KPD once was in her prime
From what I have heard, the SPD may have it where they will have a possible close margin of victory. The SPD will likely lose some seats, but retain the 1st position in numbers. In 2025, their will likely be a different prime minister that will replace Scholz given his lack of popularity by voters and his own party members. The I do believe Germany will move more center right in politics like France.
I really liked the video! Explained really well the system of german election and the results! Kudos for doing it so well and so quickly
Federal system nicely explained. Thanks.
The landes dont have any influence on military policy right? So why would the BSW and SPD disagreement on Ukraine be a problem? The only disagreements I can imagine is the building of migrant centers/housing and climate policy
good question. BSW is pro Russia in general, so maybe there are some domestic policies they could implement.
I’m just happy the greens are out
Comeback? Which comeback??? 😂😂 Social Democrats have been rulng the Federal State of Brandenburg for 28 years. MP Woidke is rather popular, and Brandenburg is the only boom region hete.He gathered a lot of votes from other traditional parties which he cannibalized: Greens, Conservatives, Liberals. Out of 8 parties actually represented and many more competing across the whole country, only four made it into the regional Brandenburg Parliament.
Scholz' government is as weak as it was before, Woidke's SPD is in small advance over AfD. Liberals and Greens who are part of his gov will try to distinguish themselves and will start to bitch around, while sociodemodrats will start to throw money out of the windows by stupid subsidies programs, like they always do.
Just wait and see ... But things have changed in this country.
regional elections*, not local
the whole election was a yes or no to the AFD many old people I voted SPD who otherwise don't vote Go
Didn't know that getting to know elections news about 🗣️bRRRRRanderburg would be that interesting!! Nice video
Question: How are the representatives of the proportional vote chosen?
This was no win for Scholz especially BC woidke didn't allow him to show up in Brandenburg to support him BC he is to unpopular
What happens if there is no coolition between SPD & BSW? Or more specifically if there is no coolition at all?
The difficult political landscape makes easy answers very attractive. So the opposition and extreme parties are profiting strongly, which can be seen all over Europe. In the end everyone is playing the media game, the media who overly reported on migration topics rather than focusing on actual problems and politicans who have been influenced through lobbies so that people don't feel represented anymore and finally voters who believe that its worth it that history repeats itself for some weird lesson they want to teach the politicans.
Not surprised.
2:48 if 13 seats is 30.9%, then 14 seats is 13.5% and 5 seats is 29.2%? Sorry I’m slow learner. This does not add up to me
The seats of the 1st are taken in consideration to balance everything out if you look at the final seat count you see that everything adds up accordingly. The system Is very complicated to ensure fairness. If you are interested in how that works watch some other videos over German election system. Thank you for asking it is important to ask important questions too protect democracy.
@@melonentypdersaftige8446 Thank you! I will try to do some research.
System is rigged so that right parties don’t win. And to ensure only left fascists like SPD can win.
@@kunalkarjee8134 It's only objectively rigged for the parties under 5%.
30.9÷(30.9+29.2+13.5+12.1)×88≈31.7 seats
29.2÷(30.9+29.2+13.5+12.1)×88≈29.8 seats
13.5÷(30.9+29.2+13.5+12.1)×88≈13.9 seats
12.1÷(30.9+29.2+13.5+12.1)×88≈12.4 seats
According to horse shoe theory, AFD and BSW should be possible
Enlightened ahh take
Anti-Centrists be like:
He stopped warmongerin and wants a diplomatic solution in Ukraine. That is why he won Brandenburg.
I think all these German videos call for a new channel : "Germany Made Simple" channel hahaha
Is there a german citizen/voter who can explain to me why "normal" people vote for AfD and not for CDU or BSW?
because we are tired of undesirables flooding our country
You might ask someone from Austria...
Because AFD is the only party that is for both national sovereignty and the free market. CDU is for strong EU influence and investing heavily in Ukraine. BSV is not a free market friend. Thus with AFD you get both of these areas checked.
The AfD is populist. They promise that everything will get better by setting up scapegoats and blaming policies/parties or people. This is why they are obviously way more voted in the poorer east than in the west. Just like how the left party used to be very popular in the East. Poorer people want their problems solved and will quickly follow a strong figurehead who blamed someone (immigrants rn btw). Another reason is that the current german government is terrible. Bad policies most of the time, not putting Germany first etc. Bunch of factors. So overall : because they value the promise of better conditions for themselves more than the laws in place that the AfD want to remove. While unimaginable for a majority of Germans to vote the AfD we need to remember every voter is a person who had their reasons.
Normal ≠ BSW
Two criticisms regarding your video:
1) Half of it is almost a word for word copy of your previous Germany video, down to the jokes. That's not good for repeat viewer engagement.
2) When you talk about the far right AfD and its officially branded extremist leader in Brandenburg you do not include any context of what makes the party "far" right or why the leader got deemed extremist by the courts, making the party seem far more normal and leaving open a lot of space to speculate that the verdict might have been an unfair one by overzealous liberal courts.
if the so called "extremists" got 29.2% popular vote, I would say that about 1/3 of the electorate think it's an unfair verdict
Btw. One of the arguments why the AFD is "far right" is because they say Germany belongs to Germans and Christians not muslim migrants.
It's secular state, doesnt belong to christians nor muslims
they have literal neonazis in their midst
or maybe beacuse they defend the nazis
Is there a center-left party with support to Ukraine?
SPD
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As a citizen of Baden-Württemberg, I find all of the recent election results in the East to be quite worrying. The rise of the AfD party and generally the populist and polarised political landscape there make me worry about the democratic Germany we've had for over 75 years this year, because our political system simply doesn't work the way it was envisioned if we have that many smaller /individual parties like the BSW.
I would describe the diabolical cycle like this:
-People are unhappy with our government
-smaller Parties emerge (often with extremist and populist views trying to sell themselves as "the only people-centered alternative")
-More and more parties get into our parliament
-Coalitions need to include more parties (3-4 sometimes), massively disrupting their political capabilities
-conflict emerges within these coalitions
-People are unhappy with our government.
I think the best Bundestag we've had was in the mid to late 80s with only the CDU (35-40%), SPD (30-40%), FDP (5-10%) and Greens (5-10%) because back then we'd broadly covered all political orientations and could form governments based off of that depending on the current political needs of the voters.
A friend of mine and I have come up with a term describing that recently: "Überpluralisierung" or Overpluralisation.
If anyone actually reads this, I hope you can understand our struggle right now.
Voting for AfD on a local or state level makes even less sense since their main policy areas can only be acted upon on a federal level.
Stated policy is not that important. The importance is voting people who are aligned with your own beliefs. Friend-Enemy distinction as Carl Schmitt described it.
Deportation is a state issue. So are many other immigration related topics
It always makes sense to vote for the party you are more ideologically aligned with... what kind of reasoning is that?😅
Austerity, Chinese ane Russian reliance and conservative economics has ruined Germany
Lol Chinese and Russia reliance helped Germany to overcome 2008 crisis and remain top EU economy. Without cheap Russia energy and Chinese market to sell Germany would ve been in decline since 2010 to this day.
Germany was ruined by dependence on the United States
How with 29.5 % vote just get 5 seat and with 13.5 % vote get more seat
they get the number of seats to match the % of the votes in the 2nd vote. the 1st vote is just to pick specific candidates. they didn't get 5 seats, they got 30 seats total with 29,5% of the votes, the other party got 14 seats total with 13.5%.
I don't understand it either. If second vote is proportional, where is the proportionality in this?
You guys didn't listen. You add the right column to the left...
He even said so in the video.
SPD 19+13 seats = 32 seats
AfD 25+5 = 30
BSW 14
CDU 12
The first vote really doesn't matter, no one gives a sh*t. The reason it is split up in the graphic is bc direct mandate seats are handed out first, then seats for people from party lists get added until the distribution of the 2nd vote is reached. I honestly think this system has more flaws than benefits. Just the bureaucratic cost associated with having so many representatives in the country..
@steamedchannelmmm As the video explained, the second vote determines the percentage of seats a party will get in total. The seats gained via winning local elections (1st vote) are not added, but included in that number. The remaining seats allocated to a party are then 'filled up' from a list pre-determined by the party in question (labelled here as '2nd vote seats'). If you add the two, you will notice that the percentages add up.
And I thought indian politics is complex
Wow rhat came out quick haha! :)
Tired now hahah.
People are tired of open borders
Turtle chad always showing up to support the worst.
nah im just tired of borders ngl, not them being open
@@YouAreStillNotablaze Yes, Germans standing up for their country is just terrible. Whose country do they think this is-Theirs??? 🤨🤨🤨
@@raybarry4307 said the literal Nazis. Got news for you, it didn't work out. It never works out.
Not that tired. They continue to vote for more, more, more!
Is this a reupload?
happy for Greens 😂😂
It appears "Ukraine enchantment" is over. And migration from outside of Europe to Germany will get harder too
I love the way the reaction to immigration having a complex issues with economic integration and a rise in Islamic nationalism is “let’s vote for Nazis.” It rings 1930s “the appropriate response to leftism is fascism” it’s weird.
Maybe AFD isn’t as popular as I think, but everyone is making it sound like they will control Germany in 10 years. Germany is going to end up like Turkey and Hungary and it’s sad.
@@JeferonConor If you didn't enforce millions of foreigners onto your land, this wouldn't have happened. No one voted for this. You break the mainstream so it only serves your interests, people will find alternative solutions.
@@JeferonConorlmao Germany will end up like Middle East thanks to people like you. AFD is the most popular amongst youth. Meaning in 10 years when the older votes has started to die off and the youth are coming up…it’s gonna be beautiful
@@JeferonConor I mean, in 2007 AfD weren't even discussed about and now they require the other main parties to form a cordon sanitare to keep AfD out from the coalition.
As long as no other party wants to properly crack down on illeagle im**gration, the support for the only party promissing this will just keep growing and rightfully so.
What do you expect people to vote when no other party wants to handle the problem?
@@Hardcore_Remixer I think democracy, human rights, and individual liberty we more important than nativism.
Can you please fix the Discord link? I'd like to join but it always says unable to accept invitation. Thank you!
Your pronunciation of Spree is a bit off.
if look result with no deep analyses that's a win for SPD if use a deep analyses and thinking in medium term the results is good for AFD
A system where you have to vote for one big party (e.g. SPD) just to avoid the other big party (e.g. AfD) is completely rubbish.
The 5% threshold leads to extremes instead of compromises.
Scholz is a traitor to his nation. Jeez.
In my opinion it was a shame that BVB didn't get a constituency. I was hoping for an SPD BVB CDU coalition. SPD CDU were only 1 seat away from forming coalition! Truly a shame :/
"each of these Länder"
Singulars exist...
Woidke was a real strategist! He explicitly uninvited Scholz to Brandenburg elections. So the general discontent wouldn't affect the local SPD. And it kinda worked. Of course there was also foul play by the media, like in the previous two elections, but hey that is quite normal here.
Let me tell you as a German living in Brandenburg who voted for the SPD, that the SPD didn't win because of Scholz and the policies of the traffic light coalition, but because Minister President Woidke deliberately avoided any appearances with Scholz and any association with his policies. The SPD would do well not to see this "strong" election result as an endorsement of their own policies, but for what it really is: a rallying of support from all sides to prevent the AfD from becoming the strongest party in Brandenburg, because right-wing extremists should not come to power. I am extremely dissatisfied with the current policies, but I cannot vote for right-wing extremists and idiots like the AfD and BSW.
In state elections, the focus should be on state policies and not on federal politics, but unfortunately, many people cannot separate the two and vote solely based on federal politics.
Anyone calling AfD "far right" doesnt know what that even means. Might as well call CDU in the 90s far right. And not calling BSW "far left" or "communist" is showing this channels biases even further.
CORRECT, THERE VERY EXISTENCE IS ALREADY SAVING GERMANY
far right supporters aleways say they are not far right. You probably do not support lgbt, women or human rights at all and are a nationalist xenophobe.
@@catcatcattac-d7c and left wingers make a lot of assumptions. also don't you mean lgbtqia+maxpro
@@stevenobinator2229wow, i have heard this few times before… wait is this 1930 all over again?
@@karliszemitis3356 They arent nazis, they will talk to everyone and make compromises. Youve been brainwashed, think for yourself. Meloni was label mussolini, now she's way less extreme. Come on
32% support for Sholtz is not that bad considering he only got 26% of the vote in the last federal election. While it would be catastrophic in a two-party system, it's not unusual in a multi-party system.
Germany is a gong show
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Man is glazing spd so hard my screen is wet