@@keithdolezel 2024 is still so buggy that tons of people would still choose to play 2020 and the devs would still be split between both sims. I've had 2024 since day one and still play 2020, I played 2024 for about 2 weeks and dropped it. Barely touched it since
There's a lot that needs done to the career mode. More aircraft options (C47 for cargo as example), more used options to make expensive aircraft available earlier (think very used cheap but flyable until you fix it little by little), more available missions in the area, a better interface for company info. Options to see actual cost per flight hr for each aircraft etc. So far it's just OK.
Wow, can’t believe trees are on the list. I think the autogen trees, specifically where they are located, is absolutely incredible and so much better than 2020. Literally one of the most notable improvements in the sim for me.
They hedged their bets and threw everything at the console market partially disregarding the PC market that had brought them some success. No one with a gaming rig cares about a cloud pc type experience
the game is playable in VR, it's just not great with SteamVR because you need to turn off GPU acceleration to stop crashing, and it loses some performance. but the game runs surprisingly well on my 3070 on medium/low graphics in VR. the only problem is that the VR controls are awful. while the yoke works fairly well, pressing buttons and using the throttle is a pain in the ass, what also makes flying helicopters almost impossible without all the assistances since you can't change throttle and collective at the same time, and the collective just jerks all over the place when you try to move it, instead of moving smoothly with your arm like in games like VtolVR.
I noticed the lack of rain on the windscreen. Flying in heavy rain you get nothing, which was a bit disappointing when I wanted to see if the wipers actually wiped.
it's a bit weird, I think it's some graphics option. because sometimes it shows up, but it's barely visible, and sometimes it doesn't show at all, even if you select heavy rain.
Wait .. these are all from the forums. Does it mean they do no testing on their own ? That bugs I don't report, or don't get enough votes, are simply not fixed ?
while the game is playable right now, even in VR surprisingly. it will take a LOT of work for the game to meet its potential. so I'll patiently wait until they work on everything, and maybe by the end of the year we will be able to safely say the game is good.
I'm surprised that photogrammetry trees (and some boats at piers) fixes are not mentioned. It's a total dumpster fire for me that everywhere I look, the photogrammetry trees are blocks of deformed shapes. I have a high end system (4090, 14900K at 5.5GHz, 64Gb of high performance RAM, 1.3GB/s download speed and live 100 miles from Seattle) yet most airports are disappointing due to the photogrammetry trees. Doesn't matter where in the country I go. I notice it in a lot of UA-camr videos as well so I know other people have the same problem.
the problem with 2 many trees, is the career tasks you with a helo rescue mission and it's not possible to land anywhere near the person, even with the land and get out of the helo and walk to them
Memory issues in 24 are huge right now. Had the sim crash several times in VR mode switching aircraft to aircraft. Can’t wait for marketplace to open…soon?
I fly basically exclusively in VR, and I am experiencing a fair amount of bugs that aren't even mentioned here. Perhaps most importantly: The EFB is completely unclickable in VR. You can open it, but can't interact with it.
i fly in VR only too and sometimes have to hit escape and go back in to make things selectable again. defiantly a bug.. but I'm tired of reporting bugs that get lost in the file of no one cares.
Asobo proving yet again they were never on pair to keep this beloved franchise. One would think they would learn from FS2020, but nope. We are part of a beta again.
I'm sorry if you think you can code the game better why don't you get a job there. Otherwise be happy that the developers are actually fixing the game. And honestly what game has launched without bugs or glitches because every launch I have played were riddled with bugs. Either do something about it or sit down be quiet and wait for a patch.
@@ImpendingJoker A bit rude of you. English is not my native language and when it comes to communication, the most important thing is to understand and make people understand and I can do it in 6 different languages
@@89_spacemonkey I'd of hoped someone who speaks 6 languages would understand the complexity of making video games, especially at a scale like this in a time where crunches are common and they have Microsoft breathing down their neck. It wasn't a good release, but it's unfair to say they're incapable. If they were, the game would still be in the state it was at launch.
@ it’s just hard to take how the industry is working nowadays. The FS2024 is just one bad example. Why not release it officially as a beta/early access? Their budget is probably huge and the game price tag is also very high. I don’t think it’s fair and doing it twice is doesn’t help either. We have many good examples in the industry of AAA games being released properly. If you go back you will find all the other Flight Simulators prior to 2020. We could go on with Rockstar and their masterpieces too.
I think it definitly should have been called fs2025 to give more time in the oven. Saying that I'm finding myself hooked a lot more jumping in than I was with 2020. The extra activities and ability to exit aircraft makes huge difference and outweighs the bugs for me, I'm confident this time next year will be much improved. Currently playing it on gamepass so no real out of $$ my end atm.
im hoping for a save load flight option that works shouldn't be that difficult when we sent people to the moon 55 years ago but not be able to implement save/load option
What is the link to give feedback or to vote? The GNS530 in the basic 172 still can't be popped out to a secondary monitor. This has been able to be done in 2020 for years. Really need to get this fixed ASAP
To not have those VR bugs fixed in SU_01 is unforgivable. The game is not really playable in VR without these, and they clearly did exactly zero VR testing before release. Absolutely abysmal.
We are unable to use avionics. I mean 430, 530, 1000 from WT are full of bugs, 430 and 530 are unusable - can't even import FP from ingame tablet. And Navigraph not injected into the 2024 sim. With all of that you can't practice IFR. So sad. And all of that not in the list :/
@@Hemeralopie The issue is that this tool as it is today is unreliable. Even to have signed a contract with that 3rd party for such a huge budget is mind blowing for me. Yet my only option as of today to see my landing performance is to see my landing rate with additional software or to have a replay with no wingflex, glitched animations, with a disgusting and uncomprehensible interface.
@@planed721 ok can’t say this about the tool probably because I have a different expectation of what it should do. I was more disappointed with the short drawing distance (LOD) as I couldn’t see the aircraft from one end of the runway to the other.
It is sometimes magnificent in VR, and often TERRIBLE. I changed nothing, yesterday was great, and today I spent about 5 hours CTD's and reinstalling, and in the end 0 flights done. FYI: I have 4000+ hours in VR in MSFS2020 (Varjo Aero, Reverb G2).
No mention of a fix for Tobii eyetracker,no mention of a fix for those of us enduring awful sound.Beta testing for the update? We're already beta testing the main sim,so why bother? All in all,a huge dissapointment considering the cost of tobii and other expesive hardwear............................................
Charter service vip missions don’t exist. 2 in Southern California? The hub of the rich and famous? Ooookkkk Planes spawn at unpaved airports in places that are IMPOSSIBLE to taxi from without a collision. 80% of freelance career mission encounter and “unexpected error” in decent of final. Even more fun when it happens AFTER landing. Course lines on EFB don’t match with the ones in the plane itself Did they fix the Bonanza where the passengers were outside of the plane? Walking around outside the plane graphics looks like they’re from an Xbox 360 If you speed the sim rate up on long flights the Caravan becomes almost impossible to fly. If you change heading on ANY aircraft while in a faster sim rate it jumps about 80 numbers and almost crashes the plane every single time with every single plane. I have to bring the rate back to normal before doing a heading change. Why can’t I paint all my planes the same color to my company has matching aircraft? You know like EVERY real company? Where the flying F is the marketplace?!?!?! It’s essentially unplayable on Xbox
Why does anyone care about too many trees, and rain on windshield, when there are so many bugs that make the game unplayable. Eg, landing box on the wrong end of the runway in landing challenges
The landing challenges are so fucked that I don't think they will ever get them to a working state. Plus I'd rather get immersion features like rain on the windshield because who's really doing landing challenges like that. Most people are doing free flight and career mode. Career mode is fucked too, MSFS 2024 is just a terrible simulator made solely for money
Utter rubbish. I get a lack of rain and oversize trees... yeah, it would be nice to see them fixed, but maybe they should be prioritising stuff like career breaking bugs like insane wind speeds and ATC not working... ya know, stuff that actually stops game progression, instead of making us wait THREE patches for it. But hey, least i can see the rain running down the canopy while im upside down on the taxiway because a 200 knot wind blew me clean over.
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imagine a world where they gave everyone who had 2020 a free equivalent copy of 2024 and only had to focus on updating one version of the sim.
Do you work for free?
@@keithdolezel 2024 is still so buggy that tons of people would still choose to play 2020 and the devs would still be split between both sims. I've had 2024 since day one and still play 2020, I played 2024 for about 2 weeks and dropped it. Barely touched it since
Yeah, I assume your employer gives away all its new products to people who have bought something before, right? Sounds pretty sustainable.
There's a lot that needs done to the career mode. More aircraft options (C47 for cargo as example), more used options to make expensive aircraft available earlier (think very used cheap but flyable until you fix it little by little), more available missions in the area, a better interface for company info. Options to see actual cost per flight hr for each aircraft etc. So far it's just OK.
Wow, can’t believe trees are on the list. I think the autogen trees, specifically where they are located, is absolutely incredible and so much better than 2020. Literally one of the most notable improvements in the sim for me.
Would love to see even more varied cloud types! Tall cumulonimbus please
Flight sim 2024 at the moment takes away more joy than it gives. I am too lazy to install 2020 -_-. At this point I just fly less and it's sad.
same here
Same. I've basically given up on my decades long hobby. Now I come here just to watch the dumpster fire.
They hedged their bets and threw everything at the console market partially disregarding the PC market that had brought them some success. No one with a gaming rig cares about a cloud pc type experience
i’ve been waiting patiently for further updates :) Can’t wait to experience it all in VR
the game is playable in VR, it's just not great with SteamVR because you need to turn off GPU acceleration to stop crashing, and it loses some performance. but the game runs surprisingly well on my 3070 on medium/low graphics in VR. the only problem is that the VR controls are awful. while the yoke works fairly well, pressing buttons and using the throttle is a pain in the ass, what also makes flying helicopters almost impossible without all the assistances since you can't change throttle and collective at the same time, and the collective just jerks all over the place when you try to move it, instead of moving smoothly with your arm like in games like VtolVR.
@@danilooliveira6580 that's weird collective on heli's work fine for me
I noticed the lack of rain on the windscreen. Flying in heavy rain you get nothing, which was a bit disappointing when I wanted to see if the wipers actually wiped.
it's a bit weird, I think it's some graphics option. because sometimes it shows up, but it's barely visible, and sometimes it doesn't show at all, even if you select heavy rain.
Wait .. these are all from the forums. Does it mean they do no testing on their own ? That bugs I don't report, or don't get enough votes, are simply not fixed ?
while the game is playable right now, even in VR surprisingly. it will take a LOT of work for the game to meet its potential. so I'll patiently wait until they work on everything, and maybe by the end of the year we will be able to safely say the game is good.
Shetland Isles in UK are covered with trees and you could count the actual number on two hands.
Shared Cockpit has got to be in VR as well! Don't let it get thrown to the wayside!
Single screen display before that. Shared cockpit is a long long way off.
I'm surprised that photogrammetry trees (and some boats at piers) fixes are not mentioned. It's a total dumpster fire for me that everywhere I look, the photogrammetry trees are blocks of deformed shapes. I have a high end system (4090, 14900K at 5.5GHz, 64Gb of high performance RAM, 1.3GB/s download speed and live 100 miles from Seattle) yet most airports are disappointing due to the photogrammetry trees. Doesn't matter where in the country I go. I notice it in a lot of UA-camr videos as well so I know other people have the same problem.
7:51 yes. It was advertised to be able to be played share.
the problem with 2 many trees, is the career tasks you with a helo rescue mission and it's not possible to land anywhere near the person, even with the land and get out of the helo and walk to them
they also need to fix the mouse free look problem for xbox
There is an easy fix for that. Get a real PC and play it on superior hardware.
Mature@@ImpendingJoker
Memory issues in 24 are huge right now. Had the sim crash several times in VR mode switching aircraft to aircraft. Can’t wait for marketplace to open…soon?
night missions in career please.
xD That first bug you highlighted is exactly what I encountered a few days ago, during a sky diving mission.
I hope they fix it 🤞🏼
Your cinematic footage is second to none. But please tell us where you are flying!
I fly basically exclusively in VR, and I am experiencing a fair amount of bugs that aren't even mentioned here. Perhaps most importantly: The EFB is completely unclickable in VR. You can open it, but can't interact with it.
i fly in VR only too and sometimes have to hit escape and go back in to make things selectable again. defiantly a bug.. but I'm tired of reporting bugs that get lost in the file of no one cares.
@@keithdolezel That works for mouse interactions, not for the EFB.
@@keithdolezel Oh yeah! That too. Sometimes I have to hit escape several times before I'm able to interact with the cockpit again.
Asobo proving yet again they were never on pair to keep this beloved franchise. One would think they would learn from FS2020, but nope. We are part of a beta again.
on par* You edited your comment and still got it wrong.
I'm sorry if you think you can code the game better why don't you get a job there. Otherwise be happy that the developers are actually fixing the game. And honestly what game has launched without bugs or glitches because every launch I have played were riddled with bugs. Either do something about it or sit down be quiet and wait for a patch.
@@ImpendingJoker A bit rude of you. English is not my native language and when it comes to communication, the most important thing is to understand and make people understand and I can do it in 6 different languages
@@89_spacemonkey I'd of hoped someone who speaks 6 languages would understand the complexity of making video games, especially at a scale like this in a time where crunches are common and they have Microsoft breathing down their neck.
It wasn't a good release, but it's unfair to say they're incapable. If they were, the game would still be in the state it was at launch.
@ it’s just hard to take how the industry is working nowadays. The FS2024 is just one bad example. Why not release it officially as a beta/early access? Their budget is probably huge and the game price tag is also very high. I don’t think it’s fair and doing it twice is doesn’t help either. We have many good examples in the industry of AAA games being released properly. If you go back you will find all the other Flight Simulators prior to 2020. We could go on with Rockstar and their masterpieces too.
I think it definitly should have been called fs2025 to give more time in the oven. Saying that I'm finding myself hooked a lot more jumping in than I was with 2020. The extra activities and ability to exit aircraft makes huge difference and outweighs the bugs for me, I'm confident this time next year will be much improved. Currently playing it on gamepass so no real out of $$ my end atm.
im hoping for a save load flight option that works shouldn't be that difficult when we sent people to the moon 55 years ago but not be able to implement save/load option
What is the link to give feedback or to vote? The GNS530 in the basic 172 still can't be popped out to a secondary monitor. This has been able to be done in 2020 for years. Really need to get this fixed ASAP
To not have those VR bugs fixed in SU_01 is unforgivable. The game is not really playable in VR without these, and they clearly did exactly zero VR testing before release. Absolutely abysmal.
I hope they do something with the trees!
they been taking their time with the updates.
On that bug list, #5 is annoying the crud outta me. I use a special registration on my aircraft and it never saves it. So annoying.
My sim keeps freezing when returning to menu with every Inibuilds aircraft. So for now I'm only flying the Fenix at FS2024.
Can't wait until the day it comes out of alpha!
Unfortunately they’ve thrown VR players under a bus!
Backed up once or twice first. Then proceeded to parallel park.
gamers dont care about storage space, i have 1.7 TB of aircraft for fs2020, give us a game that doesnt lag when i look around with my 10mb/s internet
We are unable to use avionics. I mean 430, 530, 1000 from WT are full of bugs, 430 and 530 are unusable - can't even import FP from ingame tablet. And Navigraph not injected into the 2024 sim. With all of that you can't practice IFR. So sad. And all of that not in the list :/
the VIP mission were fixed like last month
What about Replay mode ? It truly sucks and nobody talks about it
Please elaborate on the issue.
@@Hemeralopie I don't think it exists. That's the issue.
@@Hemeralopie The issue is that this tool as it is today is unreliable. Even to have signed a contract with that 3rd party for such a huge budget is mind blowing for me. Yet my only option as of today to see my landing performance is to see my landing rate with additional software or to have a replay with no wingflex, glitched animations, with a disgusting and uncomprehensible interface.
@@planed721 ok can’t say this about the tool probably because I have a different expectation of what it should do. I was more disappointed with the short drawing distance (LOD) as I couldn’t see the aircraft from one end of the runway to the other.
Performance improvements won’t come until SU2 which could possibly mean middle of 2025. Asoobo is a joke!!
Im glad I didn't waste my money on this
We need FSR3.1 and Xess 2 frame generation!
They messed up making this a console game
It is sometimes magnificent in VR, and often TERRIBLE. I changed nothing, yesterday was great, and today I spent about 5 hours CTD's and reinstalling, and in the end 0 flights done. FYI: I have 4000+ hours in VR in MSFS2020 (Varjo Aero, Reverb G2).
No mention of a fix for Tobii eyetracker,no mention of a fix for those of us enduring awful sound.Beta testing for the update? We're already beta testing the main sim,so why bother? All in all,a huge dissapointment considering the cost of tobii and other expesive hardwear............................................
Just use the workaround for Tobii (edit xml file). Yeah not ideal but easy to do and it works fine.
VR bugs so bad they can't patch them in SU_1? Well, at least I get my HDD space back. Screw this disheveled mess.
nan fires up netflix and flight sim 2024 craps its pants
Charter service vip missions don’t exist. 2 in Southern California? The hub of the rich and famous? Ooookkkk
Planes spawn at unpaved airports in places that are IMPOSSIBLE to taxi from without a collision.
80% of freelance career mission encounter and “unexpected error” in decent of final. Even more fun when it happens AFTER landing.
Course lines on EFB don’t match with the ones in the plane itself
Did they fix the Bonanza where the passengers were outside of the plane?
Walking around outside the plane graphics looks like they’re from an Xbox 360
If you speed the sim rate up on long flights the Caravan becomes almost impossible to fly.
If you change heading on ANY aircraft while in a faster sim rate it jumps about 80 numbers and almost crashes the plane every single time with every single plane. I have to bring the rate back to normal before doing a heading change.
Why can’t I paint all my planes the same color to my company has matching aircraft? You know like EVERY real company?
Where the flying F is the marketplace?!?!?!
It’s essentially unplayable on Xbox
Why does anyone care about too many trees, and rain on windshield, when there are so many bugs that make the game unplayable. Eg, landing box on the wrong end of the runway in landing challenges
The landing challenges are so fucked that I don't think they will ever get them to a working state. Plus I'd rather get immersion features like rain on the windshield because who's really doing landing challenges like that. Most people are doing free flight and career mode. Career mode is fucked too, MSFS 2024 is just a terrible simulator made solely for money
When you get big trees at the end of the runways in a lot of the smaller airports or trees in the middle of the runway or taxiway...
X box is the problem 🤣
Never again ... this is joke from ms and asobo. They sell early beta version and use voting for bugs. Next step is pay for fixing that mess.
Utter rubbish. I get a lack of rain and oversize trees... yeah, it would be nice to see them fixed, but maybe they should be prioritising stuff like career breaking bugs like insane wind speeds and ATC not working... ya know, stuff that actually stops game progression, instead of making us wait THREE patches for it.
But hey, least i can see the rain running down the canopy while im upside down on the taxiway because a 200 knot wind blew me clean over.
VRAM in SU2? the last time i buy on opeing day. streaming makes this title useless in my opinion. how much is a 4tb drive? come on MS!!
i really dislike this cloud streamming stuff.
First commenttt 🛩️🛩️🛩️
Truly a memorable achievement.
@@Retrohertz I'll be forever remembered
This sim is trash 🗑️