I been learning spanish for over two years, been to colombia 6 times. The issue a lot of the time is understanding what people/girls are saying to you because of their accent, they talk too damn fast, combined with sometimes abbreviating the words or using slang that you won't know, combined with background noise or music in the car etc that makes it very very hard to understand them. It will take yearsss to become 50-60% fluent unless you are doing the 4 hours a day 6 days a week school for a couple months AND are motivated/determined to put in the work. just MY OPINION
Not true my friend lived in México for a year and is fluent. Look at Wes the youtuber he is fluent. I think the two best schools are Baselang and Elefun. Elefun gives you the Visa so I would lead towards that and it was endorsed by @WheresWes
@@wbuffett1Mexican Spanish is sooo much easier for me to understand than Colombian Spanish. I can live in cdmx no problem. But traveling in Colombia is tough.
I took OLSA's course online. The lady in the back sitting at the desk of the OLSA portion of your video was my teacher. She's pretty good. Got my Visa with the course too.
How was the program overall? Are all the instructors good? What were the class sizes? I didn’t see anybody in the classrooms while Zoe was filming. Have you heard anything about the Spanish program at UPB?
@@rodneyjackson1437 My classes were all online. I had 1-3 other classmates. I give the instructors an 8.5/10. The instructors know some English so it helps the learning experience. OLSA has a school in Poblado too. When I visited that location, there were students in the classroom.
Can you send me her information please. How long did it take to get your visa. Please do not say you paid more than $400-500. USA citizenship cost $1100 and dollar is stronger
I checked out Baselang once last year since they had a language exchange one evening. One of their teachers learned English from a school in Dubai. Also UA-camr "Kari HQ" became fluent in Spanish from using Baselang. I think they are the better option overall but if you just in it for a VISA then the later choice is better.
If you break down the math it’s like $8 an hour 2 hours $16 times 30 days $480 but dudes will spend that or double having fun for one week in Medellin.
Zoe, it's smart of you to weigh your options. I suggest you read the reviews of students at both schools. More info available to you will help you make a better decision. If you need a visa to stay there for more than two months, I will go with OLSA. It's a no-brainer!
So I’ve been with base lang for a few years now. Matter of fact, I was one of the first students when they opened up the facility for the first time about five years ago. Now immersion course is expensive but it is designed for serious learners so if you really take this class with the intentions, of using it as it meant to be, I can guarantee you you will be very impressed with your level in a month. Now I only take the lessons online. I believe it’s $150 a month but it is unlimited and is very worth it.
Advice Zoe: No matter which school you ultimately choose, build and focus your spanish curriculum on content creating. Why content creating? Because you have extensive prior knowledge on that topic and that vocabulary is most relevant to your daily life. This will keep you motivated and interested. We learn faster when we study subjects that are very relevant and important to our daily lives; compared to just studying random topics. Secondly , talk to yourself everyday as much as you can in spanish both out loud and in your head, from the time you wake up until you go to bed. I can't stress this enough. Most learners overlook this very important technique and this will accelerate your learning curve tremendously. Next, set your phone and computer to the spanish settings. Why? Because we look at each of them multiple times a day and it is vital information to our daily existence (involuntary reinforcement). Lastly, be patient and focus on these techniques and you will see massive gains!
My homie Zoe gettin serious about Spanish!! This spanish will help you learn the Portuguese when you in Brazil. I'm about to get serious to! I never looked into getting a student learning visa since I am buy an investment property here. But if my purpose was to get my Visa I would definitely go with an accredited school. The location may be a inconvenience but your true goal will get accomplished by getting the Visa.
If you think about it, if you do 2 hours per day 5x per week, that's only 15 dollars per hour. That's not bad at all. I took Spanish classes in Medellin back in 2019 and my classes were higher than that.
I like the Baselang school compared to the second choice. I looking to do a month long stay. Will do stay in the area of baselang, can walk as you mentioned.
Zoe, this was the video I was looking for. I’m planning to come to Medellin to study Spanish and narrowed my research to OSLA and UPB. I wish OSLA had classes going on to get a picture of how classes are run. I wonder why there were no classes going on! Can you get some real life information on Spanish program at UPB? I’m looking forward to following your journey.
Zoe , you asked all the right questions. The visa is important maybe you can find a connect on using a service for Visa like you did in Thailand. The idea of walking back and forth to class will give you opportunity to use what your learning. I'm sure you will make the right decision bro. Happy Papi day 2 ya!
Very informative bro! I am doing the same as we speak. I am trying to determine should I learn Spanish or Portuguese. If I decide the Spanish language, I've be contemplating Havana, Cuba or Cali, Colombia. If it's Portuguese, I will be in Rio. Good luck bro and continue on your road to self development🍻
But what Zoe is trying to show us is how to register for a spanish class AND be able to apply for a student visa in Colombia. Student visas are good for 2 years.
@user-ln2fj8cn1r I was just explaining that this was an option, not necessarily saying this is what he was going to do. There could be a few reasons that I can think of why someone may not go for the digital nomad visa. Firstly, you must report a certain salary when you apply for that one. With a student visa, there's no such requirement.
Eh Zoe congrats bro on your Spanish Learning Journey. I'm really surprised Baselang is not accredited as long as they've been around. I see this post was several months back...so did you decide?
Learning multiple dialects at the same time will slow your process, especially as a beginner. With Spanish, it is best that you learn a neutral accent before moving on to regional accents. For example, I would recommend a beginner learn from someone from Mexico, Columbia or Costa Rica first, since their Spanish is more neutral. After you get a grasp of the language, then you can study other accents
Yeh the cost was crazy. You can get a woman to teach you for way less. I learned a lot by learning words...then learning to form proper sentences. Watch them Spanish channels with Sub titles.
I just saw the video. The first one is way over priced. $599 no way. If gringos continue to pay next month or year it will be $800. Look what’s happening to housing prices now. The second one for $900 was ok until she said you have to pay additional to the lawyer total rip off. I spoke to a local friend of a friend lawyer who sent me info that application was on $20 to do online last year. I wish I still had the information but I was not interested then now I am and lost that contact
Honestly, I don't trust most of the comments or the motives of individuals. How did Dale and or Jarvis learn Spanish? You could do the basic 500 words and supplement with videos or tough it out for 2.5 months with the school. Czech in Effect went to the DR to learn from native speakers in school, and is one of the best in the UA-cam space. I learned French on my own supplemented with a year of university. You said language is difficult for you. If it is language and the VISA, then tough it out. I agree BaseLang appears to be the better school. They also have French courses 😁
@@INTERNATIONALZOE Both Dale and Jarvis future Colombian hospice nurses will wipe both of their bank accounts clean. Colombian hospice nurses know how to run game on elderly simps. Believe that.
600 a month it is definitely not happening for me..they are overcharging..The best way Is just watch UA-cam videos and practice what you know in a Spanish-speaking country
The pricing is ok..I would certainly pay for it. It’s a matter of perspective and budget. The best way to learn Spanish is this way..taking an immersive course provided by native Spanish speakers. Watching UA-cam videos will give you background but you can’t reach the level of fluency. I live in the Dominican Republic and learned from a native Colombian.
@@hhh1200exactly..many dudes have come to the DR and told me when they got home that they were going to study on UA-cam or books but none have ever followed through. Plus they don’t realize learning and speaking Spanish is a game changer ..you go from being a clown looking for the 🐱to a respected international traveler.
The best way to learn Spanish would be to start with a program or app that heavily focuses on developing speaking skills without much emphasis on grammar rules, like the Pimsleur Spanish program. Ideally your goal should be to get conversational in Spanish on your own before you reach out to get one on one instruction from a native speaker.
its sad the amount of work we put in for chicks smh(yeah yeah I know you not just doing for just girls), bang your head against the wall trying to learn spanish, pay for flights there, pay for hotels/airbnbs there, pay for nice restaurants, pay for activities/experiences, THEN after all that you still gotta pay them for psy whether its outright or behind the scenes in different ways helping them because they are broke and dont make much. fellas the only way to survive is to get your money up and have side jobs/hustles, this shit is expensive and gets worse the more girls you deal with. oh and not to mention you gotta dodge the bandits out there that are jealous/silently hating on you for taking their beautiful women that they can't afford to wine and dine like you. I would be mad if I were them too! and thennnn you still have to look over your shoulder to make sure the chica you been kicking it with for weeks/months really won't try to drug you and run off with your shit!
Spanish is one of the most spoken languages in the world I travel the world it would make my life and content much better definitely not doing it for girls you can get that without a word of Spanish.
@@Butch3727 yeah english as a 2nd language is free at many community colleges here in the US. Colombia is not really as cheap as people think, I been to BAQ, CTG, and MDE and stores in their malls cost as much or more than here. Nice restaurants are pretty equal to what you would pay at Outback Steakhouse or Chili's. Small restaurants are cheap but you have to be concerned with the cleanliness and food preparation that nicer restaurants are better at because they value their reputation. Uber is dirt cheap and other services are dirt cheap. Rent in Poblado is more than what I pay in NC for owning my house. The only thing thats really cheap about Colombia is the price you can pay people for doing a job, everything else is equal it seems to the prices in most US cities. Groceries in the super market are cheaper though for things made in Colombia, anything they import is more than what you pay in the US.
zoe i think the second school is trying to nickel and dime you . baseline does not see to bad . Did you have any other schools you will vist. plus if the second school is teaching english i would like to get intro to teachers. the front desk lady was nice but her english was not all that good.
I been learning spanish for over two years, been to colombia 6 times. The issue a lot of the time is understanding what people/girls are saying to you because of their accent, they talk too damn fast, combined with sometimes abbreviating the words or using slang that you won't know, combined with background noise or music in the car etc that makes it very very hard to understand them. It will take yearsss to become 50-60% fluent unless you are doing the 4 hours a day 6 days a week school for a couple months AND are motivated/determined to put in the work. just MY OPINION
I had and still have the same problem with English speakers.
Not true my friend lived in México for a year and is fluent. Look at Wes the youtuber he is fluent. I think the two best schools are Baselang and Elefun. Elefun gives you the Visa so I would lead towards that and it was endorsed by @WheresWes
@@wbuffett1Mexican Spanish is sooo much easier for me to understand than Colombian Spanish. I can live in cdmx no problem. But traveling in Colombia is tough.
Nahh, you just have to be two years there
@@wayne7936 it depends on the area, there's a lot of accents in both countries. It would be easier the Spanish from Bogotá than the one from Medellin
This video and reading the comment section just motivated me to stop being so cheap and go to school instead of trying to learn on my own. Thanks
I took OLSA's course online. The lady in the back sitting at the desk of the OLSA portion of your video was my teacher. She's pretty good. Got my Visa with the course too.
How was the program overall? Are all the instructors good? What were the class sizes? I didn’t see anybody in the classrooms while Zoe was filming. Have you heard anything about the Spanish program at UPB?
@@rodneyjackson1437 My classes were all online. I had 1-3 other classmates. I give the instructors an 8.5/10. The instructors know some English so it helps the learning experience. OLSA has a school in Poblado too. When I visited that location, there were students in the classroom.
Can you send me her information please. How long did it take to get your visa. Please do not say you paid more than $400-500. USA citizenship cost $1100 and dollar is stronger
I checked out Baselang once last year since they had a language exchange one evening. One of their teachers learned English from a school in Dubai. Also UA-camr "Kari HQ" became fluent in Spanish from using Baselang. I think they are the better option overall but if you just in it for a VISA then the later choice is better.
If you break down the math it’s like $8 an hour 2 hours $16 times 30 days $480 but dudes will spend that or double having fun for one week in Medellin.
Or you could pay $20 a month for the Pimsleur app. The lessons are 30 mins a day, they cut through all the bs and get you speaking Spanish quickly.
Did you try enrolling at the university near by? It’s cheaper maybe
You said the quiet part out loud
@@FrederickCasa He doesn't want to enrol in a university, because it'll be distracting.
@@-.-_-. lmao 🤣 📠
Zoe, it's smart of you to weigh your options. I suggest you read the reviews of students at both schools. More info available to you will help you make a better decision. If you need a visa to stay there for more than two months, I will go with OLSA. It's a no-brainer!
So I’ve been with base lang for a few years now. Matter of fact, I was one of the first students when they opened up the facility for the first time about five years ago. Now immersion course is expensive but it is designed for serious learners so if you really take this class with the intentions, of using it as it meant to be, I can guarantee you you will be very impressed with your level in a month. Now I only take the lessons online. I believe it’s $150 a month but it is unlimited and is very worth it.
What up! Zoe the great! Puttin in work!. Brothers doing well, is always a good thing.
Advice Zoe: No matter which school you ultimately choose, build and focus your spanish curriculum on content creating. Why content creating? Because you have extensive prior knowledge on that topic and that vocabulary is most relevant to your daily life. This will keep you motivated and interested. We learn faster when we study subjects that are very relevant and important to our daily lives; compared to just studying random topics.
Secondly , talk to yourself everyday as much as you can in spanish both out loud and in your head, from the time you wake up until you go to bed. I can't stress this enough. Most learners overlook this very important technique and this will accelerate your learning curve tremendously.
Next, set your phone and computer to the spanish settings. Why? Because we look at each of them multiple times a day and it is vital information to our daily existence (involuntary reinforcement).
Lastly, be patient and focus on these techniques and you will see massive gains!
My homie Zoe gettin serious about Spanish!! This spanish will help you learn the Portuguese when you in Brazil. I'm about to get serious to! I never looked into getting a student learning visa since I am buy an investment property here. But if my purpose was to get my Visa I would definitely go with an accredited school. The location may be a inconvenience but your true goal will get accomplished by getting the Visa.
If you think about it, if you do 2 hours per day 5x per week, that's only 15 dollars per hour. That's not bad at all. I took Spanish classes in Medellin back in 2019 and my classes were higher than that.
I like the Baselang school compared to the second choice. I looking to do a month long stay. Will do stay in the area of baselang, can walk as you mentioned.
Elefun Spanish School in Laureles is very good. 🇨🇴
great job zoe
Zoe, this was the video I was looking for. I’m planning to come to Medellin to study Spanish and narrowed my research to OSLA and UPB. I wish OSLA had classes going on to get a picture of how classes are run. I wonder why there were no classes going on! Can you get some real life information on Spanish program at UPB? I’m looking forward to following your journey.
Baselang is superior trust me and better value
Zoe , you asked all the right questions. The visa is important maybe you can find a connect on using a service for Visa like you did in Thailand. The idea of walking back and forth to class will give you opportunity to use what your learning. I'm sure you will make the right decision bro. Happy Papi day 2 ya!
Hey Zoe, have you considered Elefun? Highly recommend by Wes from Where's Wes? He became fluent 6 Months...
Thanks for this
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Great video, Ive been looking for a video comparing different spanish schools. Have you heard of toucan?
Very informative bro! I am doing the same as we speak. I am trying to determine should I learn Spanish or Portuguese. If I decide the Spanish language, I've be contemplating Havana, Cuba or Cali, Colombia. If it's Portuguese, I will be in Rio. Good luck bro and continue on your road to self development🍻
Your channel will grow more viewers 👍👍👍👍
If you want comfort you go to the first one and get the discount. If you really need a visa then you go to the second one.
But what Zoe is trying to show us is how to register for a spanish class AND be able to apply for a student visa in Colombia. Student visas are good for 2 years.
why wouldn't he go for the digital nomad visa instead?
@user-ln2fj8cn1r I was just explaining that this was an option, not necessarily saying this is what he was going to do.
There could be a few reasons that I can think of why someone may not go for the digital nomad visa. Firstly, you must report a certain salary when you apply for that one. With a student visa, there's no such requirement.
Eh Zoe congrats bro on your Spanish Learning Journey. I'm really surprised Baselang is not accredited as long as they've been around. I see this post was several months back...so did you decide?
You should do Baselang, you will be fluent faster and more natural as your speak to multiple dialects. The inline version is better
Learning multiple dialects at the same time will slow your process, especially as a beginner. With Spanish, it is best that you learn a neutral accent before moving on to regional accents. For example, I would recommend a beginner learn from someone from Mexico, Columbia or Costa Rica first, since their Spanish is more neutral. After you get a grasp of the language, then you can study other accents
@@RizzSpanish They can still easily tell that you are a gringo foreigner outsider.
@@Passport_Urkel yeah but most of the time they can tell you’re a gringo before you even open your mouth. We dress different.
@@Passport_Urkel not when you get good at Spanish
@@canadianbrotv1303 No they can still easily tell.
ALWAYS take the path of immediate Peace......
Whichever option gave you Peace IMMEDIATELY is more then like the one that God has for you
Get it in
Go with BaseLang and commit and go hard for 2 months 💪
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Zoe you might have to ask,Who work after hours for the LOW...
you have any more information on the university? i would like to get info on that
good stuff Zoe just make sure if you get a woman teacher she teach you Spanish in the masculine versus the feminine
Spanish is a relatively easy language to learn for native English speakers; good luck!
I heard about Baselang… interested!
Yeh the cost was crazy. You can get a woman to teach you for way less. I learned a lot by learning words...then learning to form proper sentences. Watch them Spanish channels with Sub titles.
Learning the language in a good investment even if it’s $400-600 might be with it to have a lifetime skill
Bingo ... I rather pay and learn spanish because its something u will have for life.
I just saw the video. The first one is way over priced. $599 no way. If gringos continue to pay next month or year it will be $800. Look what’s happening to housing prices now. The second one for $900 was ok until she said you have to pay additional to the lawyer total rip off. I spoke to a local friend of a friend lawyer who sent me info that application was on $20 to do online last year. I wish I still had the information but I was not interested then now I am and lost that contact
The olsa spot seem better even if you have to take a taxi there , also the visa is a plus
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Honestly, I don't trust most of the comments or the motives of individuals. How did Dale and or Jarvis learn Spanish? You could do the basic 500 words and supplement with videos or tough it out for 2.5 months with the school. Czech in Effect went to the DR to learn from native speakers in school, and is one of the best in the UA-cam space. I learned French on my own supplemented with a year of university. You said language is difficult for you. If it is language and the VISA, then tough it out. I agree BaseLang appears to be the better school. They also have French courses 😁
They both went to school as well
@@INTERNATIONALZOE Both Dale and Jarvis future Colombian hospice nurses will wipe both of their bank accounts clean. Colombian hospice nurses know how to run game on elderly simps. Believe that.
@@Passport_UrkelWhy have money left in an account if you're single and on your "Death Bed"?
600 a month it is definitely not happening for me..they are overcharging..The best way Is just watch UA-cam videos and practice what you know in a Spanish-speaking country
The pricing is ok..I would certainly pay for it. It’s a matter of perspective and budget. The best way to learn Spanish is this way..taking an immersive course provided by native Spanish speakers. Watching UA-cam videos will give you background but you can’t reach the level of fluency. I live in the Dominican Republic and learned from a native Colombian.
@@alexpablo1200 They don't get it. That is the way Czech in Effect learned Spanish. He was taught in a school in the DR.
@@hhh1200exactly..many dudes have come to the DR and told me when they got home that they were going to study on UA-cam or books but none have ever followed through. Plus they don’t realize learning and speaking Spanish is a game changer ..you go from being a clown looking for the 🐱to a respected international traveler.
The best way to learn Spanish would be to start with a program or app that heavily focuses on developing speaking skills without much emphasis on grammar rules, like the Pimsleur Spanish program. Ideally your goal should be to get conversational in Spanish on your own before you reach out to get one on one instruction from a native speaker.
@@alexpablo1200 Respected? No you will always be seen as a foreigner gringo outsider.
$599 USD? 🤔
I think I can teach you. Retired of being ESL teach for long.
Smooth move to chill on university to many sugar snacks 😂
179 monthly now
iTalki is half the price of that and you can meet people that live in Colombia
$599 usd is expensive.. you could literally find something cheaper
Online
Why not invest in a car? When it all adds up by the end of the year. Spanish definitely gon level you up tho
its sad the amount of work we put in for chicks smh(yeah yeah I know you not just doing for just girls), bang your head against the wall trying to learn spanish, pay for flights there, pay for hotels/airbnbs there, pay for nice restaurants, pay for activities/experiences, THEN after all that you still gotta pay them for psy whether its outright or behind the scenes in different ways helping them because they are broke and dont make much. fellas the only way to survive is to get your money up and have side jobs/hustles, this shit is expensive and gets worse the more girls you deal with. oh and not to mention you gotta dodge the bandits out there that are jealous/silently hating on you for taking their beautiful women that they can't afford to wine and dine like you. I would be mad if I were them too! and thennnn you still have to look over your shoulder to make sure the chica you been kicking it with for weeks/months really won't try to drug you and run off with your shit!
Spanish is one of the most spoken languages in the world I travel the world it would make my life and content much better definitely not doing it for girls you can get that without a word of Spanish.
Hella expensive
I thing they are exploiting their customers
A Spanish course which costs the same as rent? REALLY!? (Dr Now voice)
@@Butch3727 yeah english as a 2nd language is free at many community colleges here in the US. Colombia is not really as cheap as people think, I been to BAQ, CTG, and MDE and stores in their malls cost as much or more than here. Nice restaurants are pretty equal to what you would pay at Outback Steakhouse or Chili's. Small restaurants are cheap but you have to be concerned with the cleanliness and food preparation that nicer restaurants are better at because they value their reputation. Uber is dirt cheap and other services are dirt cheap. Rent in Poblado is more than what I pay in NC for owning my house. The only thing thats really cheap about Colombia is the price you can pay people for doing a job, everything else is equal it seems to the prices in most US cities. Groceries in the super market are cheaper though for things made in Colombia, anything they import is more than what you pay in the US.
She's in Cali but she do online as well
zoe i think the second school is trying to nickel and dime you . baseline does not see to bad . Did you have any other schools you will vist. plus if the second school is teaching english i would like to get intro to teachers. the front desk lady was nice but her english was not all that good.
$600 a month to much for 1 on 1 training there.
$600 a month is crazy
Dude let's be real. Are you really going to put in the effort??
Yes I can commit for at least one month.