BMW Z4 (E89) Review | The German MX-5?

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @infomwr
    @infomwr 2 роки тому +41

    I’ve had my E89 35is since new in 2012. I’ll never get rid of it.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому +2

      We can see why, happy motoring

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r 2 роки тому

      Wario

    • @d1nar788
      @d1nar788 Рік тому

      Man I clicked on your profile thinking I could get a peak...

  • @McCrazyFish
    @McCrazyFish 2 роки тому +18

    I haven't stopped thinking about this car since we filmed this

  • @EmmettLBrown2015
    @EmmettLBrown2015 2 роки тому +8

    Last year I got a 2011 BMW Z4 Sdrive 30i and I absolutely love it, it's an amazing car it's the perfect sports car for me. It's truly reliable and extremely sleek and sexy.

  • @antoniofonseca7075
    @antoniofonseca7075 Рік тому +7

    One important topic for going out on a weekend for two. The boot can carry 2 cabin size suitcase ad beach towels in that space below the protection, allowing to go out, and to be allowed to go with roof open.

  • @ShelfsideOllie
    @ShelfsideOllie Рік тому +12

    I drove my 23i to Mallorca in the summer and it got attention everywhere it went. The looks on the e89 are very reminiscent of an old 50s sports car. The drive was as smooth as you like with the 6cyl and as they say in the z4 world, there’s not much better out there for the money in terms of smiles per miles.
    Keep your Mazda, I won’t be selling mine ever if I can help it!

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому +2

      Have you driven an MX-5 or are you just comparing the Z4 with what you imagine other cars are like?

    • @gabrielhantig2356
      @gabrielhantig2356 21 день тому

      @@BuckleUpShow it's not only about driving. It is a design masterpiece, great proportions, great engine. If you put 18" non rft tyres, it becomes a really nice car to drive daily. It has a luxurious dna also compared to Miata

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  21 день тому

      True petrol heads tend to care more about driving experience than posing

    • @ShelfsideOllie
      @ShelfsideOllie 21 день тому

      @ perhaps, but I love the drive and how it makes me feel. I guess im not a true petrol head then!

  • @benfinegoldsociety8312
    @benfinegoldsociety8312 Рік тому +8

    No it's not a Miata. I was also disappointed when i had it for the first few months. It looks so premium it catches a lot of attention.
    But when i started doing long distance journeys of 2-3 hours man did this car just eat up the miles. Nothing was more comfortable.
    Suddenly the strengths of the Miata, light weight, immediate direct response weren't so desirable any more.
    The fact is the twisty roads are far far fewer than highways. The Miata is a god level car but this Z4 has its own strengths as well.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      Thanks for commenting. If I had to guess, I’d say you are from the USA? There may be more highways there, but there’s more ‘twisty’ roads here. It feels heavy and indirect on British b-roads. The owner of this one sold it after only having it for a few months. Both he and his wife found it immensely uncomfortable to do long drives in.

  • @danielprose5878
    @danielprose5878 2 роки тому +4

    One of the best cars ever made if u loook what u get on cars that costs 2 times , 3 times , 4 times tha money ! I drove one over 4 years . What a nice car !!! Greez from Germany!

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому

      Glad you liked yours, thanks for watching!

  • @trevorarnold5410
    @trevorarnold5410 2 місяці тому

    I bought this exact same model from new Dec 2009, I got 2 drinks holders as an extra. After 55,000 miles under its belt , I still own it, it’s taken us on several trips to Spain and the south of France and accommodated all the luggage required for the trip. I have maxed out the top speed of 150 mph on the German autobahn and it took it all in its stride. It’s sales through its MOT every year and only the cost of a service at the appropriate interval with no breakdowns or faults over 14 years. A few years ago it had a BMW recall for the battery connections and this month has had another recall on the Vanos system. Overall it’s been a pleasure to drive and own and it will continue to be my weekend drive for as long as I can get in and out of it.
    I would highly recommend this variant to anyone.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 місяці тому

      Sounds like it’s worked out for you

  • @jaketurner8197
    @jaketurner8197 2 роки тому +13

    In general I liked this review but I felt like some elements were being a bit more critical of that specific car itself rather than E89's as a whole, for example some do have iDrive and some also do have cup holders in the center console under the arm rest (still useless as they interfere with changing gear whilst driving but still there) and the left hand drive models had the option of one that slots into the passenger side of the transmission tunnel but they never made one for RHD models. Also, as this is a general E89 review you could've branched out into all the different engine choices, you touched on that the one in the review was the 23i with the 2.5l L6 but didn't say anything about what else was available like the 30i and 35i and how after 2011 BMW replaced the 23i and 30i with the 18i, 20i and 28i 2l turbo 4 pots but kept the 35i. The E89 also had a few transmission options too, obviously there was the 6 speed manuals but also several automatics, the 23i and 30i could come with a 6 speed auto, 18i, 20i and 28i actually had the option of a 7 speed auto (no 6 speed except manual) and the 35i had the option of a DCT.
    During the test drive section you comment on the suspension and how it felt soft but failed to mention that the car in the video isn't an M-sport and the standard suspension is much softer than the sport suspension which handles and rides differently. In fact there was also the option of adaptive suspension which gave the best of both worlds.
    Like I said though, I did actually like this review and I think you have a lot of potential but I think maybe in the future, if I were you, I'd try to do a bit more research on all your talking points as the review does seem to blur the line substantially between critiquing the 23i in the video and E89's in general (which is what this review is supposed to be)

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому +2

      Hi Jake, always welcome feedback but I think you may be mistaken for thinking most people care about any of this.
      I could stand in front of the camera and talk for hours about all the different models and specs, but I can’t comment on what any of those are actually like.
      I would have thought that would be fairly obvious, as how can I accurately report on something like a different suspension set up, without testing it for myself. I don’t simply accept general views or expectations as fact.
      Hope this makes sense but thanks for watching.

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r 2 роки тому

      Thanks guys

  • @mattguerra82
    @mattguerra82 11 місяців тому +1

    Don’t listen to the butt-hurt snobs here complaining about the MX-5 comparison, it was a good review and an interesting point price-wise. I myself had a ND and a F30, and watched this review exactly because I’m wondering between another ND or an E89 for my particular “wants” (weekend fun car). Cheers

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  11 місяців тому +2

      We find it all very amusing as they are clearly highly comparable on the used market

  • @ggoneable
    @ggoneable 2 роки тому +7

    Your review matches the car really good. Well done. When the Z4 came out in 2009 I was stunned. The looks were just something from another world to me but since I was only 24 years old and still studying I was far away from managing to by a new car this expensive. When I started to work I realized I could buy a used z4 35i. And that is exactly what I did. Some years later I needed a bigger car (because of obvious reasons...) and I sold it... What a mistake! 5 years later or 2 years ago I bought another Z4 35is and it will stay in my garage. Forever.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching, glad you’ve enjoyed both of yours!

  • @frankdaelemans4488
    @frankdaelemans4488 2 роки тому +8

    Interior fairly standard BMW for the time period? Well, no. Actually the Z4's interior was (and still is) quite unique in the BMW line-up. Those round airconditioning controls are not found in any other BMW model. The doors are also asymmetrical: the passenger door has got a "grip handle" (to give the passenger an extra hold in the event the drive gets a bit spirited) which the driver's door lacks.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the correction, looks like a BMW interior to me. Don’t know how I sleep at night. I must have been mistaken when I thought Lexus owners were the dullest in the world.

    • @frankdaelemans4488
      @frankdaelemans4488 2 роки тому +3

      @@BuckleUpShow I own a (2016) Z4 so I'm a sucker for details ;-) Let's call my comment an addition to your review, which otherwise was fairly spot on. If you want a car to give you kicks through the twisties, then a Z4 isn't it. It most certainly can't hold a candle to your Elise. However, if you like to go on weekend (or longer) trips, cruise in comfort and still want a sporty touch (like I do), then the Z4 is a great car. As always it comes down to what you're looking for: horses for courses. Keep up the good work.

  • @hotdiggityd
    @hotdiggityd Рік тому +4

    Any review of the MKII Z4 which doesn't start off by saying it's the best looking car ever made is already swimming against my tide

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      Have you been to specsavers recently? Or ever?

  • @TheSleathable
    @TheSleathable 2 роки тому +4

    My z4 has
    2 Cup holders
    I drive
    Driver side glove box
    Rear shelf compartment
    And even a place that can store Skis

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому

      But this one didn’t 🤷‍♂️

  • @georgeluyckx1437
    @georgeluyckx1437 6 місяців тому +1

    This is a very practical car. Went on a skitrip this year and it can take luggage , skiboots and skis in the trunk for two persons. Try that with a Miata or even some sedan cars. Also to mention is that this is the best looking hard folding top car ever made.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  6 місяців тому

      It's very practical for a 2 seat roadster, if you’re buying a chest of draws, though, a 5-Series Touring might still be the move.

    • @georgeluyckx1437
      @georgeluyckx1437 6 місяців тому +1

      😆 That’s true , you won’t be moving sofas with a Z4.

  • @aleugen6045
    @aleugen6045 Рік тому +2

    Short thought on the indicators: best way to cancel a 'left' is by gently pushing a 'left' again - like you would aim for that 'triple blink lane change signalling'. Reasoning goes: if you hit it soft enough, it will cancel. Else, it will continue to indicate left and you can try again. At least there will be no annoying left-right-left-right mess....

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому +3

      Unless you're the one who designed them, you don't have to defend them, we both know they're awful

    • @aleugen6045
      @aleugen6045 Рік тому

      @@BuckleUpShow No thoughts to defending, that's for sure! Just trying to live/drive with them :)

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      They're livable for sure, but for us at least they're also always irritating

  • @varixman
    @varixman 2 місяці тому

    I have the 30i SDrive with iDrive, etc... 6 cylinder, 254 bhp / 0-60 mph in 5.6 secs. It really is a good car and I enjoy driving it although I see it more of a GT car than a proper sports car (which is fine with me, by the way). My car has 17 inch alloys and I am not running run flat tyres, which increases massively the ride comfort in British roads (ie: dirt tracks with pot holes that can swallow up your whole car).
    I haven't driven an MX5, but that car is in my "before I snuff it" list to own/try, for sure, as all the reviews are incredibly complimentary about the handling.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 місяці тому +1

      While not a quick, the MX-5 is simply a masterclass in driving dynamics

  • @thorstenwestheiderphotogra7722

    Getting a Z4 i35 today despite your best efforts to talk me out of it :-D

  • @martyboyle9066
    @martyboyle9066 Рік тому +5

    I prefer the z4 I think the proportions of the mx5 are a bit too small.

  • @samehsalib1833
    @samehsalib1833 Рік тому +1

    Love the video. 👊

  • @willpartridge6427
    @willpartridge6427 4 місяці тому

    A great review. I watched this because I am looking to buy a Z4 E89 having driven an MX-5 for the last 15years - which I absolutely love BTW. But faced with shelling out for rust repairs I decided it was time for a change. The family car is a BMW F31 3 Series Touring which is great to drive. But how I chuckled when you mentioned the indicators not cancelling and accidentally turning the opposite one one when you try to manually cancel it. Drives me mad and I said the same thing that the crappy design is probably the reason that BMW drivers have a reputation for not indicating.😄

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  4 місяці тому

      It's certainly one of the indicator designs of all time

    • @willpartridge6427
      @willpartridge6427 2 місяці тому

      Well, it's been a few weeks and soon after my last reply I bought a Z4 SDrive 30i manual in M Sport spec. I still have the MX-5 (it's for sale) and I can honestly say that the Mazda is more fun to chuck around twisty roads. However, driving the 3.0litre Z4 is truly breathtaking. The engine is sublime. It is a truly remarkable car. Yes you have to respect that it is heavier and less chuckable than the MX-5, but the whole driving experience is incredible. When I passed my driving test (a long while ago!) the Ferrari Testarossa was the fastest car you could buy (I think there was a Lambo that rivalled it). The Ferrari did it in 5.7sec. The 3.0 Z4 does it in 5.8sec. You run out of road so quickly. It's the pinnacle four wheeled things today.

  • @cologne2792
    @cologne2792 Рік тому

    An excellent review! Can I ask how tall you are as I'm 6'3" and wondering if I'd fit in the cabin?

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      I'm 188cm, it's quite a roomy cabin for this type of car

  • @CaptainAMP
    @CaptainAMP Рік тому +1

    I’ve been thinking of getting this car but I’m a tall guy (6’3 240lbs), will I be able to fit or should I consider a different car?

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому +1

      This is pretty much the most spacious 2 seat roadster you can get, you'll probably be alright

  • @colingilson1285
    @colingilson1285 Рік тому +2

    thair is a 2 leter . i have had my Z4 23i for 5 years i wil never get rid of it

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      This is a 23i which means it has a 2.5 Litre 6 cylinder

  • @zsolthajdu3774
    @zsolthajdu3774 Рік тому

    I do think it was quite a good review. Currently looking for a red one for my SO with the same engine as in the video.

  • @Muhluri
    @Muhluri Рік тому

    The lack of a cupholder is a confusing omission

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      Especially when it’s aimed at the American market

  • @Z4Man199
    @Z4Man199 11 місяців тому +1

    Love the Z4. Got one as a second car

  • @suprim-21
    @suprim-21 2 роки тому +4

    What an awful review. Failing to mention major Z4 facts and also constantly making mistakes about the specs. Zero research and you really should ve compare it with the boxter not the slow bathtub from japan. Also try some sim sessions, it could really help you with the gear changes pal.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Nic, can you be a bit more constructive around what mistakes I’ve made? It’s the same price as an NC MX-5 and they have very similar performance figures so not sure what your issue is with that. Don’t think there was anything wrong with my gear changes, but I’m obviously not a pro driver like yourself, however I imagine playing some video games wouldn’t really help.

  • @SandbaggerJoe
    @SandbaggerJoe Рік тому +2

    Z4 - MX-5 Other than being 2 seat convertibles they are nothing alike

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      Apart from the fact they are both also front engined, rear wheel drive?

    • @SandbaggerJoe
      @SandbaggerJoe Рік тому

      @@BuckleUpShow A frog and a horse both have four legs

    • @SandbaggerJoe
      @SandbaggerJoe Рік тому +1

      @@BuckleUpShow I am lucky to own both of these fine cars , a NC Miata and a 3.0 Z4 . Enjoyed your review

    • @mahmudswalkman
      @mahmudswalkman Рік тому +1

      ​@@SandbaggerJoe do you still have both of them? how are you using each of them? any other cars in your own?)

    • @SandbaggerJoe
      @SandbaggerJoe 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mahmudswalkman Still have both , drive the Miata most every day , longer trips in the Z4 , Pilot and Atlas to haul boats

  • @Dragon-Slay3r
    @Dragon-Slay3r 2 роки тому

    Don't forget about the fuel injection. It was a German brand

  • @brianlehmkuhl8162
    @brianlehmkuhl8162 6 місяців тому

    *Forgets to turn off turn indicator " this is a flar on BMW" meanwhile BMW is like "why not use the soft tuch 3-5 blink functuon when overtaking and save the hard click for actual 90 degree turning.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  6 місяців тому

      Because that’s not sufficient for roundabouts, Brian.

  • @aperfecte
    @aperfecte 2 роки тому +1

    20i ere

  • @beschuitfluiter
    @beschuitfluiter 10 місяців тому

    How tall are you? For reference

  • @vintagetrk
    @vintagetrk Рік тому +1

    Damn It all you british guys always have the 4 bangers. My E89 doesn't have the single dual exhaust tips it has the DUAL exhaust tips

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for feeling the need to share you have dual exhaust tips. This is a 6-cylinder car btw

  • @BlueJon1975
    @BlueJon1975 3 місяці тому

    How tall are you?

    • @BlueJon1975
      @BlueJon1975 3 місяці тому

      I’ve seen further down you answer this, cheers

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  3 місяці тому

      Ah but I haven’t answered you, so 6ft2”

  • @kurokigensai7
    @kurokigensai7 2 місяці тому

    i have one in Asphalt

  • @benhur_9377
    @benhur_9377 9 місяців тому +1

  • @CliveMorgan-h2k
    @CliveMorgan-h2k 4 місяці тому

    Who gave this pray the key

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for your prayers, can we get some thoughts too?

  • @TheSleathable
    @TheSleathable 2 роки тому

    Only cool affordable recent car in my opinion

  • @tomislavblazevic2742
    @tomislavblazevic2742 7 місяців тому

    This is a GT car, a Miata isn't in the same class.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  7 місяців тому

      No, it’s a sports car, and one that costs the same as a used MX-5 in the UK. A very clear comparison.

    • @tomislavblazevic2742
      @tomislavblazevic2742 7 місяців тому

      @@BuckleUpShow That's ok, we don't have to agree. I've owned an E89 for 10 years, whereas miatas always looked like toy cars to me.

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 Рік тому

    Answer....no.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 Рік тому +2

      MX-5 is like a toy car in comparison. Like a go kart. The zed is a tourer.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching!

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 Рік тому +2

      I sat as passenger in friends latest MX-5. First my eye line was level with top of window frame. Interior seemed cheap plastic and exterior paint inside top of doors. That's a cheap idea i expect in Fiats.. The ac buttons about the best thing. Seem to move along ok, should do half the weight of the Z. My Z4 E89 is 14 years old now, no body rust. Can't say that about MX-5.
      Z i like as it has a bit of retro look interior. Beige and wood reminds of Riva Aquarama power boat roof down.

  • @2460welshguards
    @2460welshguards 4 місяці тому

    That was a awful review , it’s nothing like a MX5 , the Z4 is a beautiful machine this guy has no idea

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  4 місяці тому

      There are literally comments under this video from people who were cross shopping the two

  • @panmar5807
    @panmar5807 2 роки тому +9

    the incompetence in person. how do you compare a z4 to a mx5? 😂😂😂😂

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  2 роки тому +6

      With relative ease if you bother to watch the video

    • @McCrazyFish
      @McCrazyFish 2 роки тому

      You're not very bright, are you

    • @sonof69star
      @sonof69star 11 місяців тому

      Its a Cardinal sin to compare a MX5 to a Z4. It's like comparing a 2 star budget lodge to a 5 star hotel. That MX5 is not anywhere near the class, comfort and performance of a Z4. If you really need to compare, go and get a 28i, 35i or even the 35is versions of the E89 Z4. They will rip the MX5 of any generation to shreds. And go and google Z4 GT3 and see the widebody V8 version of the E89 Z4. MX5 is always the solution dog poop quote is not going to work here.

  • @JimmyNunez-h8w
    @JimmyNunez-h8w 9 місяців тому +1

    Grow up and give a decent review . Without the embarrassing comedy

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  9 місяців тому

      And exactly how far into the video did you get before coming to this conclusion?

  • @mothroyale9076
    @mothroyale9076 Рік тому +2

    This review soooo painful I have to stop watching. Too many silly irrelevant opinions.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому +1

      We’re sorry to hear you’re incapable of listening to someone who has a different opinion to you

    • @mothroyale9076
      @mothroyale9076 Рік тому

      @@BuckleUpShow yeah ok. Way to make a fan. ffs

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      Thank you for becoming a fan

    • @mothroyale9076
      @mothroyale9076 Рік тому

      @@BuckleUpShow Good luck with your channel I hope you can improve your content to the point that I might actually be interested in watching it.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      Oh no, we’re devastated to lose such a big fan who’s been with us since the beginning (the last 23 hours). What would help make you stay?

  • @francistotoleking5960
    @francistotoleking5960 6 місяців тому

    Don't review a car if you don't know what you are talking about

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  6 місяців тому +1

      Which bit was wrong, Francis?

  • @mr_vag
    @mr_vag 6 місяців тому +1

    Worst review I watched for a long time

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  6 місяців тому +1

      Congratulations, that was nearly a sentence.

    • @mr_vag
      @mr_vag 6 місяців тому

      Instead of being defensive over something this bad, I suggest you receive the feedback like you should and improve. Or continue ignoring the pile of bad comments like this and diminish who cares? ;)

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  6 місяців тому +1

      You haven't actually provided any constructive feedback. You have, however, nearly provided two proper sentences. Keep up the good work!

    • @mr_vag
      @mr_vag 6 місяців тому

      And you provided us an indepth video with no depth, 2 grammatically perfect arrogant replies so what does it leaves you with? Lol and the matter of fact that you probably cant say even hello in my language so hold on to your english knowledge, that might be the only strength in u ;)

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  6 місяців тому

      Merhaba.

  • @CliveMorgan-h2k
    @CliveMorgan-h2k 4 місяці тому

    What a prat ,not a good preview,guy should think of a job in Tesco's

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  4 місяці тому

      Unfortunately, the only vehicles to review in Tesco are the complementary in-store mobility scooters. These don't quite align with the rest of the content on the channel.

  • @niallpenny1635
    @niallpenny1635 Рік тому

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @agentfaz8759
    @agentfaz8759 Рік тому

    The host is super annoying and trying way too hard to be funny. Had to click off at the 6 minute mark. Had enough.

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому +1

      That explains why I won the ‘super annoying and tries way too hard to be funny’ category at this years awards

    • @agentfaz8759
      @agentfaz8759 Рік тому

      @@BuckleUpShow Well you're certainly not winning the hearts of motoring fans are you. Your channel views have been abysmal recently!

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      They’re actually the highest they’ve ever been in September, but thank you for taking the time to comment

    • @agentfaz8759
      @agentfaz8759 Рік тому

      @@BuckleUpShow I wasn't referring to September but good luck for the future.
      Please don't reply anymore, cheers!

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  Рік тому

      We'll try not to, have a nice day

  • @liborplistak
    @liborplistak 5 місяців тому

    I'm not an expert .. not at all. But this review is stupid 😂😂😂

    • @BuckleUpShow
      @BuckleUpShow  5 місяців тому +1

      In your expert opinion, which bit was objectively wrong?

  • @dmitrijsbeliks9090
    @dmitrijsbeliks9090 Рік тому +2

    In-depth review without any depth.