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This will be epic. Would like to hear if anyone thinks Valentinus is the perfect balance point between 'gnostic christianity' and proto-orthodoxy - and if so, is his metaphysics/theology closest to the core heart of Christ's teaching we have available? Let me know your thoughts and intuitions on this. If not, please share your free thoughts on that also. Blessings from Sweden.
My thinking is everything is made of imagination. Who we appear to be is an imagination of a perspective that appears as our Universe and the perspective from which we presently imagine. Everyone and everything we interact with is a reflection of our intentions. I've recently found reason to believe that Eve represents our reflection in the world as everything that appears in the world. Matter is derived from mother. The ribosomes in our cells read the sine waves sent from the nucleus and produces chains of amino acids in response to what is asked. The messages are sent through the cytoplasm of the cell which means the word spoken across the waters. Plasma, water .. represent the formless which I think is synonymous with hell, chaos, underworld... . There is a correspondence between nuclei present within plasma which determines what is created within the plasma, such as cellular structures within cytoplasm, elements within stars, stars within Nebula... I checked out the etymology of magnetism the other day after my UA-cam physics teacher pointed out that light is electromagnetic radiation. I found word relationships between Adam, Spoke, Radius, Staff, Admire which means to love passionately.. Adam would represent the center of rotation as the axis of a spinning cube or di. 🎲 I was daydreaming about a figure skater spinning and started thinking how pulling her/his hands in toward the center transforms centrifugal force to centripetal force, from an outward moving force to an ascending force. I found that di comes from the Latin da-re which means to give. The opposite sides of a di always add to seven so the seven is always implied but never seen, I believe it represents the axis of rotation of a spinning di and these things are related to the cube at Mecca which was built by Abraham in a valley where streams don't flow and every believer is supposed to visit and revolve around 7 times like at Jericho. The place to visit isn't actually in Mecca or Jericho or the seven churches in the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to St John but rather the seven places and revolutions are found within ourselves with the seventh place possibly a door to a new world. 🎲⚕️🔯
The Valentinians originally didn't think of themselves as sectarians or seperate from the early Church, rather as a secret seed of the Elect within the early Church, administering certain higher initiatory sacraments, the Nymphon, Apolytrosis. Valentinus was a serious contender for the office of Bishop of Rome.
@@MikaPilgrim Some Gnosis in the Orthodox texts 1 Corinthians 2 “6 Yet among the mature we do speak Sophian, though it is not a sophian of this age or of the Archons of this aeon, who are being destroyed. 7 But we speak God’s Sophian, a hidden mystery, which God decreed before the aeons for our glory 8 and which none of the Archons of this aeon understood, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” Ephesians 6 “10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his power; 11 put on the whole armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil, 12 for our struggle is not against blood and flesh but against the Archons, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, so that you may be able to withstand on the evil day and, having prevailed against everything, to stand firm. 14 Stand, therefore, and belt your waist with truth and put on the breastplate of righteousness 15 and lace up your sandals in preparation for the gospel of peace. 16 With all of these, take the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 Pray in the Spirit at all times in every prayer and supplication. To that end, keep alert and always persevere in supplication for all the saints.” Below: A list of every time the term, “Gnosis” was used in the New Testament usually translated as “Knowledge”. Strong's #1108: gnosis (pronounced gno'-sis) from 1097; knowing (the act), i.e. (by implication) knowledge:--knowledge This word is used 29 times: Luke 1:77: "To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their" Luke 11:52: "ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and Romans 2:20: "which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in" Romans 11:33: "both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his" Romans 15:14: "of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another." 1 Corinthians 1:5: "utterance, and in all knowledge;" 1 Corinthians 8:1: "that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity" 1 Corinthians 8:1: "we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth." 1 Corinthians 8:7: "there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the" 1 Corinthians 8:10: "see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not" 1 Corinthians 8:11: "And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish," 1 Corinthians 12:8: "of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same" 1 Corinthians 13:2: "mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all" 1 Corinthians 13:8: "there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away." 1 Corinthians 14:6: "revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or" 2 Corinthians 2:14: "and maketh manifest the savor of his knowledge by us" 2 Corinthians 4:6: "to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in" 2 Corinthians 6:6: "By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness," 2 Corinthians 8:7: "and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and" 2 Corinthians 10:5: "that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every" 2 Corinthians 11:6: "I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly" Ephesians 3:19: "love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all" Philippians 3:8: "the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:" Colossians 2:3: "treasures of wisdom and knowledge." 1 Timothy 6:20: "and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:" 1 Peter 3:7: "ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honor unto the wife," 2 Peter 1:5: "virtue; and to virtue knowledge;" 2 Peter 1:6: "And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience;" 2 Peter 3:18: "in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior"
When I'm on this channel I feel like we are ALL deep inside the underground catacombs of the Vatican - away from the world. And we are reading all the secret documents and rejoicing in what we find, together. Holy Light and spirit to ALL ☀️✨
I really like that last bit about the Summer Harvest as it relates to the "universal veil" motif found in medieval Christianity (found in the symbology behind the Main doors and pointed tympanums of gothic cathedrals and how this same motief still applies to the taxonomy behind naming different parts of the fruiting bodies of fungi to this day.. Furthermore while under the influence of a certain family of mushrooms, the universal veil idea certainly comes to mind a while after ingestion and right before the peak.. and if you really want to go down that rabbit hole have a look at all the mushrooms to be found depicted in the stained glass of Chartres Cathedral ;)
indeed that it is a great story.. but i guess many here don't know where the story comes from.. as to say from the old Testament and whay the narratives are behind it.. it is indeed a great story but pretty dark from which the meaning behind it and why it was a lost written to begin with. In the Archontic, Sethian, and Ophite systems, Yaldabaoth (Yahweh) is regarded as the malevolent Demiurge and false god of the Old Testament who generated the material universe and keeps the souls trapped in physical bodies, imprisoned in the world full of pain and suffering that he created.
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Hope you do more "fragment" readings like this!
Simon Magus' "the Great Announcement" would be an interesting read/video presentation ;)
@@bgp001 don’t forget the excerpts of Theodotus. I had a great time reading it.
Thank you. Beautiful💛weird🤍and💚interesting💛
Thank you for these recovered gems.
This will be epic.
Would like to hear if anyone thinks Valentinus is the perfect balance point between 'gnostic christianity' and proto-orthodoxy - and if so, is his metaphysics/theology closest to the core heart of Christ's teaching we have available? Let me know your thoughts and intuitions on this.
If not, please share your free thoughts on that also.
Blessings from Sweden.
My thinking is everything is made of imagination. Who we appear to be is an imagination of a perspective that appears as our Universe and the perspective from which we presently imagine. Everyone and everything we interact with is a reflection of our intentions. I've recently found reason to believe that Eve represents our reflection in the world as everything that appears in the world. Matter is derived from mother. The ribosomes in our cells read the sine waves sent from the nucleus and produces chains of amino acids in response to what is asked. The messages are sent through the cytoplasm of the cell which means the word spoken across the waters. Plasma, water .. represent the formless which I think is synonymous with hell, chaos, underworld... . There is a correspondence between nuclei present within plasma which determines what is created within the plasma, such as cellular structures within cytoplasm, elements within stars, stars within Nebula...
I checked out the etymology of magnetism the other day after my UA-cam physics teacher pointed out that light is electromagnetic radiation. I found word relationships between Adam, Spoke, Radius, Staff, Admire which means to love passionately.. Adam would represent the center of rotation as the axis of a spinning cube or di. 🎲 I was daydreaming about a figure skater spinning and started thinking how pulling her/his hands in toward the center transforms centrifugal force to centripetal force, from an outward moving force to an ascending force. I found that di comes from the Latin da-re which means to give. The opposite sides of a di always add to seven so the seven is always implied but never seen, I believe it represents the axis of rotation of a spinning di and these things are related to the cube at Mecca which was built by Abraham in a valley where streams don't flow and every believer is supposed to visit and revolve around 7 times like at Jericho. The place to visit isn't actually in Mecca or Jericho or the seven churches in the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to St John but rather the seven places and revolutions are found within ourselves with the seventh place possibly a door to a new world. 🎲⚕️🔯
The Valentinians originally didn't think of themselves as sectarians or seperate from the early Church, rather as a secret seed of the Elect within the early Church, administering certain higher initiatory sacraments, the Nymphon, Apolytrosis. Valentinus was a serious contender for the office of Bishop of Rome.
Absolutely yes. He was Orthodox. Only later was he labelled Gnostic as to harm his reputation. To me, this is orthodox
@@martinbragalone Wow, thanks for comment friend.
I feel this so strong inside.
Any suggested reading or watching?
@@MikaPilgrim
Some Gnosis in the Orthodox texts
1 Corinthians 2
“6 Yet among the mature we do speak Sophian, though it is not a sophian of this age or of the Archons of this aeon, who are being destroyed. 7 But we speak God’s Sophian, a hidden mystery, which God decreed before the aeons for our glory 8 and which none of the Archons of this aeon understood, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”
Ephesians 6
“10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his power; 11 put on the whole armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil, 12 for our struggle is not against blood and flesh but against the Archons, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, so that you may be able to withstand on the evil day and, having prevailed against everything, to stand firm. 14 Stand, therefore, and belt your waist with truth and put on the breastplate of righteousness 15 and lace up your sandals in preparation for the gospel of peace. 16 With all of these, take the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
18 Pray in the Spirit at all times in every prayer and supplication. To that end, keep alert and always persevere in supplication for all the saints.”
Below: A list of every time the term, “Gnosis” was used in the New Testament usually translated as “Knowledge”.
Strong's #1108: gnosis (pronounced gno'-sis)
from 1097; knowing (the act), i.e. (by implication) knowledge:--knowledge
This word is used 29 times:
Luke 1:77: "To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their"
Luke 11:52: "ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and
Romans 2:20: "which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in"
Romans 11:33: "both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his"
Romans 15:14: "of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another."
1 Corinthians 1:5: "utterance, and in all knowledge;"
1 Corinthians 8:1: "that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity"
1 Corinthians 8:1: "we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth."
1 Corinthians 8:7: "there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the"
1 Corinthians 8:10: "see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not"
1 Corinthians 8:11: "And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish,"
1 Corinthians 12:8: "of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same"
1 Corinthians 13:2: "mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all"
1 Corinthians 13:8: "there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away."
1 Corinthians 14:6: "revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or"
2 Corinthians 2:14: "and maketh manifest the savor of his knowledge by us"
2 Corinthians 4:6: "to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in"
2 Corinthians 6:6: "By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness,"
2 Corinthians 8:7: "and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and"
2 Corinthians 10:5: "that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every"
2 Corinthians 11:6: "I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly"
Ephesians 3:19: "love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all"
Philippians 3:8: "the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:"
Colossians 2:3: "treasures of wisdom and knowledge."
1 Timothy 6:20: "and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"
1 Peter 3:7: "ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honor unto the wife,"
2 Peter 1:5: "virtue; and to virtue knowledge;"
2 Peter 1:6: "And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience;"
2 Peter 3:18: "in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior"
When I'm on this channel I feel like we are ALL deep inside the underground catacombs of the Vatican - away from the world. And we are reading all the secret documents and rejoicing in what we find, together.
Holy Light and spirit to ALL ☀️✨
I really like that last bit about the Summer Harvest as it relates to the "universal veil" motif found in medieval Christianity (found in the symbology behind the Main doors and pointed tympanums of gothic cathedrals and how this same motief still applies to the taxonomy behind naming different parts of the fruiting bodies of fungi to this day.. Furthermore while under the influence of a certain family of mushrooms, the universal veil idea certainly comes to mind a while after ingestion and right before the peak.. and if you really want to go down that rabbit hole have a look at all the mushrooms to be found depicted in the stained glass of Chartres Cathedral ;)
I am broke right now my brother but your work is amazing
❤wow absolutely amazingly Beautiful ❤
Very neat ❤
Elegantly beautiful ✌️
Valentinus is mad underrated
Fragment 3: from the Epistle of Agathopous is the most profound
Love it. ❤
@All Law THANKS!!! 😀💞💨
indeed that it is a great story..
but i guess many here don't know where the story comes from..
as to say from the old Testament and whay the narratives are behind it..
it is indeed a great story but pretty dark from which the meaning behind it and why it was a lost written to begin with.
In the Archontic, Sethian, and Ophite systems, Yaldabaoth (Yahweh) is regarded as the malevolent Demiurge and false god of the Old Testament who generated the material universe and keeps the souls trapped in physical bodies, imprisoned in the world full of pain and suffering that he created.
Valentinus made one thing clear, Jesus never pooped.
I had a lot of respect for Valentinus, but hearing that quote I have to think he was quite the imbecile.
I wonder where all the food he ate went then
Turn that poop into wine
Hello frater.
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