PA system discussion for ukulele groups - Presented by Peter Moss
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2020
- PA system discussion for Ukulele groups - Presented by Peter Moss
Different ways of setting up a pa system. From Microphones to leads to mixing desks - Both Digital & Analogue. I am not paid or endorsed by any manufacturer. My recommendations are based on personal use and seen to be fit for purpose.
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I may be older than you, I have four analogue mixers from 8 up to 24 channel. I still use them, but for bigger gigs the Behringer XAir 18 Digital mixer comes out. I run a Cat6 cable from the stagebox/mixer to my laptop so I am not dependent on wifi. With two screens I can open several windows to see everything I need. It gives me so much more control than the old desks, I can also walk around the stage and hall with a tablet to make adjustments. We also have six monitor mixes which artists can adjust their own whilst onstage. It's well worth making the effort to master it.
That sounds a very impressive the set up you have there. However, most ukulele groups I have come across would not know how to use it to the max, even if given it for free.
@@PeterMossUkulele Until COVID I ran a small (one day, 10-12 acts, 700+ attendance) annual festival, as well as the local panto, comedy gigs, playing in a couple of bands etc. For a Uke group I would suggest a small 8-12 channel analogue mixer, a couple of Thomann's M6 6 channel snakes, enough Behringer ULTRA DI20 boxes, and a pair of small powered speakers with stands. I would try not to use monitors, and insist everyone uses a Uke with a pickup. If I had experience of systems like the Bose l1 compact pa system I might push them in that direction, I've seen them used successfully by anything from folk to Dad rock bands. They are certainly compact, and the folk bands suing them seem happy without monitors.
Yes the pick ups in ukuleles make mixing a whole lot easier besides people randomly putting in and taking out jack plugs until everything was muted. Pop, Bob, Bang! - The Bose systems are great for bass punch and throw to the back of the hall but in my experience best used in pairs. @@Bettys_Eldest
I keep a single SM58 for those with cloth ears who insist on using one, but I have a half dozen Sennheisers e835 and e945, significantly better microphones at similar prices to the SM58.
Video’s looking slick Peter
Very informative Pete, what are your views on D.I. boxes? I play my uke through a Radial Stage Bug, jack in XLR balanced line out to the mixing desk, I find the volume is way higher than a jack plug straight into the mixing desk and it has ground lift for any weird noises.
Hi Judy n Peter Jones. Thanks for your input. Yes a DI box to to convert to a balanced line out is perfect. The lead coming from your ukulele to the box needs only just long enough for you to be able to move a few feet in each direction as that running in high impedance and susceptible to noise, depending on how much you paid for it of course. I use a Line6 G10 wireless stystem and the receiver unit has an XLR out.
@@PeterMossUkulele I have the xvive wireless system, I put the transmitter in the uke and the receiver into the di box, then XLR to the amp!
judy n peter jones Perfect 🤩
hello Peter,
...there are up to ten people in our group, so will we have to share mics and ask some of our group to leave their ukes at home, due to the limited number of instruments that can be pluged in ? Also, does the bass player need their own gear ? regards Baz from NZ
Hello Barry - It all depends how much money you have to invest? - You mentioned you are sharing mics so you must have a PA system. Does anyone singing do a solo vocal or ukulele break? Does one person do the announcements when playing a concert? Please describe what you have so far with the make and model numbers of said mics and also your mixer/amplifier and speakers and I will come back to you. Cheers, Peter.
...sorry Peter, my question was not well worded....at the moment we don't use a PA system but are considering it, my question was about how do you hook up 10 ukes to a mixer that only has sockets for 4 leads ?....I have just watched Ukulele Wales video ( Rachel ) and they use overheard condenser mics , my concern with her system would be that the players that beat their ukes up and make a lot of noise could not be quietened down. and all sounds would be amplified, including the ones you don't want... We would still need mics for soloists and making announcements . @@PeterMossUkulele
Hello Barry - which comes back to my original question, what is your budget? - For example the ukulele orchestra of Great Britain has 10 players. Each have their own uke mics and separate vocal mics. So 20 mics need to go into a stage box with a minimum of 20 inputs, If the system is digital the link between the stage box and mixer travels through one cable known as a Cat 5 or 6. However this is extremely expensive. If your group are mainly strumming and singing, you could get away with 3 pencil condenser mics on stands (in front or overhead) with 2 for the leg/right and 1 in the middle. Condenser mics need power either by battery or what is known as a 48volt supply from your mixer. You mentioned another mic for soloists and announcements so a further mic and stand will be required. If your mixer has 4 inputs only, you can make that work. If your mixer has no amplifier in it, you will need a pair of active speakers that have amplifiers built in and place them at a minimum of 5 feet in height. I hope that helps. @@barryswanson8181
Thanks very much Peter for a detailed answer, Baz.@@PeterMossUkulele