To me, minimalism is just keeping life free from things that don’t bring value. I value having free space in my home, saving time cleaning, not getting stressed by clutter etc
I wished I could have heard more about the Gucci shoes and why a stranger’s perception of you held so much power. I really appreciated your openness Christina.
About "overdressing": as someone who frequently wears clothing too extra for the situation, I have never seen anyone reacting to it negatively, and I frequently get compliments, smiles, etc. At the end of the day it's actually fun for most people to see someone wearing a witch hat in the post office, or a vintage formal dress in Goodwill.
When Chelsea said "not Uncle Dave" that literally had me LOL 😂. I appreciate this convo. Decluttering my wardrobe, makeup and even kitchenware has cleared my mind and has given me peace. I remember in my early twenties I randomly thought "Why do I have heels, I don't even wear heels." and I used to purchase them because I wanted to make myself like them, which was unrealistic. I donated those heels and more than half of my wardrobe of clothes I didn't even wear or like to a women's shelter. I believe as most of us get older we are less influenced by what we are told is cool and what we are told we need.
Unfortunately, unless you bought those clothes you now plan to return from an ethical company (one where returns actually get resold), there is the possibility that those returns may just be discarded....sad but true
Chelsea isn't lying about clothes. My loved one was in the hospital for a month. I dressed like a hospital admin every day visiting (my wfh uniform of tees and leggings was greatly missed, but I mostly wore cardigans with blouses, slim pants and nice shoes) but I got treated ENORMOUSLY better. All the doctors spoke to me with caring regard, and ignored other family members.
this is partly why I started wearing button up shirts, and found a style that's comfy for me. I get treated more respectfully, and if I find ones that still fit my style, I can still express myself
Yep. It works nearly all the time. Shallow? Yes. But, there it is. A well dressed person somehow still commands respect, whether or not it is true respect is another story.
You aren’t kidding. I am watching this on closed captioned video as I am writing this, waiting for results from tests in emergency waiting room. My boyfriend urged me to go to ER to be on the safe side (i live in canada and am grateful for free healthcare although I have been waiting for 5 hours).. my boyfriend said I will pick you up in 30 mins and take you to the ER. I chose to wear taupe wool lounge pants, cashmere jumper and light wool cream overcoat. Slicked my hair back and packed a little hospital leather bag. I can tell you I was treated with so much more dignity and respect today being admitted than in previous visits when in the middle of the night or otherwise, looking disheveled, and, well, SICK! To think that I was treated so much better today is crazy, considering it’s a HOSPITAL! Of course you won’t be treated any faster as it is a triage system as it should be, but I am absolutely shocked.
Ironically, my usual thought when seeing someone in Gucci is "they are so desperate to make people think they're rich that they probably aren't really all that well off."
It’s hard to admire a person that spends so much money on something that usually looks a little trashy or just super basic. Gucci and Versace both make nice clothes, but I wouldn’t pay that much for a weirdly patterned t-shirt or slippers even if I could afford it. I do buy their perfume though. That’s actually worth the cost and smells good on my moderately priced clothes! (I grew up poor and really wanting Calvin Klein or Guess, so their regular stuff is totally okay!) 😉 I can feel justified buying lots of expensive perfume, since I can enjoy it every day and for years to come. And it always fits. 🥰
I never had anything new to wear as a child, teenager or young adult (until I finished at university). Everything came from thrift stores. I didn’t even have a single jacket or coat for winter, just an old sweater that the wind and cold cut right through. This sense of material deprivation is still with me at age 62, so my bad-time default impulse is to buy wardrobe items, especially jackets and coats! I try to recognize, then ignore or re-channel this impulse when it comes on.
Same here. I bought the newest trends when I was working at Kaufmann’s and put myself into some serious debt. In my thirties and forties I discovered thrift stores that didn’t appreciate vintage style and could find choice well made items without designer labels. Although I do have a cedar trunk full of vintage Harris Tweed coats….all with matching leather gloves. And a few gorgeous fake furs. Lots of coats….too many coats. I’ve cut back on thrifting because there is so much fast fashion….
One piece of advice that I've found useful for people that are into more of a maximalist style or multiple distinct styles is to kind of think of yourself as a comic character, so you know how they have this distinct pieces and wild stuff but it all sorts matches and vibes together? Something like that it's helped me figure out how to keep things fun without hoarding or changing styles super often
I so love this conversation because I share this type of info with friends. When I was living in Michigan I felt I needed to have a lot of clothes because we experience 4 seasons. But a couple of years ago, I started getting rid of things drawer by drawer. Next thing you know an entire dresser chest was being thrown out. Fast forward, I am traveling the world with only carry-on luggage! Solid colors create multiple outfits, and having such a limited wardrobe is so freeing!!!
15:19 very relatable, the idea of buying our way into wealth is so popular. Coming from a lower income background, it feels like the people around me buy material items with brand names to peacock and show that we’ve attained a certain level of success. But these status items keep us broke. It’s hard to move past that idea and plan for the future, so those items seem so attainable and makes people feel good right away.
Re Gucci flats: Luxury brands ‘market’ to the extremely wealthy and appear coveted but given that small leather goods are the top seller, I view them (shoes/belts/purses) as a proxy for the middle class. It did take some financial education to recognize this ploy (and I still want some Chanel flats) but it help ease my aspirational shopping/desire. Hope this helps someone!
I can relate to this story hard. I made a huge career shift from bartending to finance and felt a huge gaping insecurity pretty quickly. As a queer woman of color who doesn't come from much, I felt intense pressure to dump a bunch of money into transforming my working class appearance: my rough hands from working for years in bars, my utilitarian clothing, my lack of makeup, etc. I felt the need to do this because while the stereotype of the shlubby millionaire is valid for men, women are expected to pour money into her appearance when she's financially successful. And I felt and still feel I need to do this to some degree for clients to feel that they can trust me with their money. That being said I've come to find a way to be somewhat economical while having fun with my new professional wardrobe. Thrifting and consignment are my new best friends. And it allows me to play with new looks without bankrupting myself. Thanks for this confessional.
Firstly, love both your channels! Not sure if it's because of the virtual interview, I feel like the two of you didn't click as well as with guests in other episodes. Chelsea missed Christina's cues when she was uncomfortable or disagreed with certain topics, similarly Christina missed Chelsea's hints for where she wanted to lead the convo. Chelsea has a more to-the-point direct conversation style, but Christina has a less confrontational/ more inclusive language style that works better as a casual chat. It led to (in my opinion) more formality and nervousness on both sides, and led to a fairly surface-level conversation. Still interesting to listen to though! But would be interesting to hear some informal topics you both disagree on, if there's ever another collab between you guys ❤️
I love Chelsea and TFD, but this convo was uncomfortable. Christina didn’t particularly answer the questions, but went off on tangents. Lovely girl, mind you.
I don't watch a ton of TFD but I noticed the host just isn't particularly friendly or agreeable in general. Her "interesting" came off as skeptical rather than true interest
I also over-corrected from a shopping problem to unyielding minimalism, so this was a fun conversation for me. It sounds like Christina has found a balance that I've really struggled to find.
I really like Christina and feels like she's much more practical then hard core minimalists. But I still feel like a capsule wardrobe is for people who really like neutrals and don't have wildly divergent activities in their life.
I have a very colorful capsule. I use color theory. So you could pick Tints, Tones, Shades or Hues b/c literally every color in the category goes w/ all others.
I have multiple capsules: casual, exercise/active, home/pj, and work. I wear lots of color too. My life is incredibly varied and my wardrobe needs to reflect that so several capsules helps me maintain a manageable wardrobe while still satisfying each clothing need.
I never buy designer clothes yet this conversations has been very helpful to me. Self compassion seems to be THE skill to practice, thanks for that reminder. The follower Q&A was fab
In Defense of the kibbe system, it's just a tool like minimalism. You can follow it as much or as little as you want and for those that have no idea what suits them it gives them an idea. Like for me, I did the test and watched videos and it was exactly what I was already thinking/wearing so really it just confirmed what I think does and doesn't look good on me with a little added "why" it does or doesn't it look good on me and how I can maybe adapt it to. I also like that its more about working WITH your body than against it like the fruits system and others that are trying to make everyone an hourglass. Just a different perspective 😊
I always loved clothes clothes and accessories, but was a careful, within-budget shopper and I had a one-in, one-out rule to keep my wardrobe manageable. But, during the pandemic lockdowns (I was on almost 2.5 years of home isolation because of high risk medical factors), I got hooked on online shopping to relieve my loneliness and boredom. Receiving a new item was the only thing on the horizon that I felt I could look forward to. I couldn’t even be with my family, especially my Mom, in what turned out to be her last years (she was very high-risk too, because of the lung disease that killed her in June). I’m not going to beat myself up for this behavior, it did help me through a very difficult time. But, I’ve returned to my normal shopping habits, with a budget, and am paying off the debt I incurred. I don’t charge anything now, just use my debit card. Opening those store credit cards was a mistake, too, it makes it all too easy to buy more than I can afford (they’re paid and closed now). Now, I really need to do a big wardrobe purge, I put up two racks for extra clothes, because my closet was full (it’s tiny, but used to hold everything I needed for a single season). I’ve also been hanging onto clothes that are far too big for me, because they are great quality classics, but after years, I don’t think I’m going to gain that weight back.
I used to love this channel back in the day when Chelsea still had this smallish apartment and was sharing her newfound financial wisdom with empathy and solidarity. She was honest and relatable, much like Christina is in this interview and her other videos. This is my soft (trying here) way of saying that the appeal of the channel (particularly when on this minimalist fashion topic) is dissipating. As a viewer, I often feel spoken down to, judged, and led to a pre-determined TFD conclusion. I'm going to hop off for a bit, but thanks for reminding me of how much I like Christina's channel.
Around 18:30, when Christina talks about the slippery slope of 'levelling up' and buying more and more expensive things and not batting an eye, I felt that. When I was 18, I thought the £70 TopShop overcoat a girl in my year had was the pinnacle of human existence. Now, in my mid-20s with a 'real job', it's a £300 APC bag. It never ends, it just escalates. It's not wrong to have One Nice Thing (if it's not going to wreck me financially), but it just makes me want more, and when I get the thing it doesn't make me excited anymore, which is a problem. When I feel the itch to shop, I know I'm much better off just going outside and touching grass lol.
Yep I felt that too - and I’m in my late 40s - when I started making money in my 30s here I am trying to catch up 🤷🏽♀️well so the bills they sure followed me too
LOVE Christina ! Have watched her for several years - as I have YOU. Both from your beginnings. Great interview. AND I love both NYC & Toronto ! Both are second homes to me in my heart , with decades of cherished memories, since childhood. Christina, your “cheesy answer” at the end was beautiful & authentic. Life affirming, too. I cried ! We can all overcome our insecurities , and feel genuinely good ! Thank you for being an inspiration. Hugs from Buffalo, NY - Liz
I’ve been following Christina for years and she’s helped me to stay inspired to spend less and intentionally, so great to see her and Chelsea together! 💖
A tip for the size fluctuation, especially for bloating, buy your pants a little big in the waste and then string an elastic band through the waste. You’ll have perfectly fitted pants throughout those fluctuations
Someone needs to open up a discussion around the difficulty of maintaining a functional, attractive and affordable wardrobe when you’re someone with a disability. For myself, I’ve been dealing with issues of my body changing so dramatically so often, that sometimes I feel like my clothes (and hence my wallet) can’t keep up. And it’s not JUST my disability-it’s also menopause. What fit well and made me feel fantastic 6 months ago now looks awful, and no doubt in another 6 months, I feel the same about what I buy now. There’s a part of me that deep down perhaps wishes that a public “uniform” might not be a bad idea. Because with the expense and waste of fast fashion and changing tastes, I feel like I’ll never look good again.
I can't speak to having a disability myself, but finding a personal uniform changed my life for the better, and I see the same positive impact in my mom and my grandmas (who had their own versions of a uniform for decades - but there was enough color and pattern that I wouldn't notice until I was an adult how they were essentially wearing the same outfit every day). All three struggle with mobility issues, yet they always look modest and presentable. Mine is a long sleeve maxi dress with buttons in the front and deep pockets. The fabric washes well and I imagine it'll fit me for years, even if my body fluctuates. It drapes beautifully with my current figure, but it's stretchy/loose enough to accommodate a future pregnancy or other big lifestyle changes. I do have other pieces in my closet to inject variety, but this one piece works for most of my daily activities so I just bought the same exact dress in several colors.
My mom is in care home and she is on the heavier side but she manages to dress with style. She can only wears pants ans they are not special, just comfortable. But she wears colorful tops that enhance her skin tone and she completes it with costume jewelry, a good haircut and a large smile. She is my fashion and life inspiration.
I would love a TFD success story segment where people can come on and say what tips from TFD they applied and how it helped them especially when it comes to paying off debt. I like how Dave Ramsey has that component and I think it helps build his credibility.
Gucci and Coach and Juicy etc seem like symbols that say “I have money but no developed sense of taste” or “I’m really scared of other people and I have social anxiety … but if I just have this belt or purse then even the worst judgements from strangers won’t be too bad.” It’s like wearing armor. I get how that must be so comforting and addictive.
Tip for anyone living in an apartment who plans on moving to a house they own later. When you de-clutter or clean a room, make an inventory of all the stuff you have already and keep that list like on your phone with a google doc, or pc etc. That way you know exactly what you have to pack for your eventual move AND you have a list to keep yourself from purchasing doubles of things you already own. You can tally your shirts for instance and see if you really need another one.
When we are young it is easy to look good in fashionable clothes, we dont have a belly that needs covering or hiding, like in our 60's and fashion is an attractive hobby. I remember looking at fashion magazine adds and wanting to dress in luxurious brands, but after inquiring about the price of these items, I quickly realized that they were out of reach. To me , these glamorous clothes reflected that I was successful and could afford the finer things in life. But when you really think about it, the best in our lives are our family and friends and spending time with them. The other very precious thing in life is TIME, we have a limited amount of it and we must make the most out of it. The more you spent, the more you have to work and less time you have to enjoy time for yourself, you become a slave.
Personally, went waaaay overboard with my budgeting, trying to fast track my financial goals! While I definitely was able to allocate a huge portion of my relatively low income to savings and investments, I stopped allowing myself more than $100CAD every paycheck (bi-weekly) that I could spend on clothing, food out, drinks, entertainment etc. After about a year of this low-buy, I was anxious about my money (despite having an extremely comfortable amount in the bank) and feeling like my hard work was getting me nowhere. I put money away into a just for fun sinking fund and have been allowing myself to splurge on some utilitarian high quality pieces and have been feeling great about it!! Love the wishlist as for me, the time spent choosing specific items is the part of the process I have the most fun with!! Once things are on the wishlist, they can either be cash flowed or budgeted for accordingly - I get new, beautiful high quality pieces that I love and I have zero buyer's remorse or guilt about spending!! Will admit, Aritzia is also a guilty pleasure, must be a 🇨🇦 thing lol, great video!!
I enjoyed this conversation and I follow Christina on UA-cam! Nice to hear her story. I was attracted to her quick clean up before bed and no dirty dishes to greet us in the morning. Lovely person. Chelsea, great set and your hair looks fabulous.
Regarding grandma's coat: If you interact with it in any way, you use it. Not every item has to be used in the intended way to be of personal use/value
I really appreciate the shame free environment you've created with this series! It helped me face some things about my spending habits, and realize I'm not alone in how I got to this point. Thank you TFD!
I am decluttering as I listen! Great tips and thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your journey with all of us! It definitely feels so much lighter and liberating to free yourself of clutter
Yeah! Fellow pharmacist! (The dirty secret of our industry is PBMs, by the way. And probably every pharmacist you will ever meet hates them.) I relate so much to that experience of taking out all that loan money for school and thinking it will be fine because your salary will make the payoff affordable. The truth is that you probably WILL be able to afford the payments (which, hey, is more than some people can), but the amount you owe is so large that your monthly payments can easily be the size of a mortgage. It definitely takes some of the fun out of that big salary when you're using a third or more of it to pay student loans every month.
This was the first time I had heard someone mention about the difficulty of creating a capsule wardrobe when you're weight fluctuates. I had bought a few pairs of pants last year to start a more capsule like wardrobe that are now too tight. It's so discouraging.
Also, the wishlist is so real. It serves both a reminder purpose, in that you don’t forget what you wanted and aren’t ambushed by the desire when you do remember, but also every time you look at the wishlist, you are forced to think an extra time “do I even want it, really?”
Thanks for the collab! 😍 glad, she shared her story and that she therefore helps to destigmatize how mental health can be correlated to shopping issues a/o addictions. I for example therapized myself for a long time with clothes, because I realized throught therapy that shopping for clothes was propably one of the few moments where I felt that my mom showed me affection (maybe it was the only love language she felt comfortable with?) … ergo that‘s the only way I knew how to be nice to myself
I feel you! We grew up receiving pre loved clothes from wealthy cousins for a long time! Since I had my money, I started to accumulate items like I would never miss anything more, or would have to inherited clothes !
I wanted to add to this conversation that I really struggled with self-compassion, despite the fact that I had a therapist helping at the time (probably around 6 years ago). It's only in the last few months that I've been able to start working on this by literally sitting with my emotional 'pain and suffering'. This is really hard to do so I can understand how I tried to avoid it for ages.
For “just in case” items I give them a time limit because all the ones I have are ones I really do like. My rule is 2yrs, if it doesn’t get work in 2 years it goes. I know many people say 6-12mos (depending on if they have actual seasons or not), but due to my area and other factors an item may not get worn in a year (usually winter clothes) but 2yrs in I know whether it will be worn or not. My work wardrobe is generally on the more casual side of professional so I often wear those as my every day clothes too since they are super comfortable and look non-slobbish when I am running errands, then I keep casual clothes for activities, cleaning, anything that might be “messy” and a couple of professional outfits for when the occasion calls for it.
I’m not usually a long format video viewer but couldn’t miss this episode with Christina. The time went by so fast because she dropped so much interesting info! Really enjoyed this conversation!
I have a summer size and a winter size. I’m in agreement about not trying to squeeze into clothes too tight. I don’t let shop assistants talk me into smaller jeans anymore. I remember it was the norm to say, but as tighter jeans as you can get on as they stretch. I’ve spent years in too tight jeans on that advice. I’m now only buying what fits and what is comfortable.
I watched a lot of Christina’s videos when I first got into minimalism. The algorithm must’ve been gearing up for this collab because I’ve seen more of her videos on my homepage than usual lately 😅
It would be so cool to have a video series focused on money management by international influencers - it’s interesting to learn new perspectives on how cultural differences creep into consumerism and lifestyle changes
I've been following Christina for over a year now and I find her inspirational and love to see how she's evolved and love watching this channel and your both together. Thoroughly enjoyed 🥰🥰🥰
Love love love Christina! I've been following her for the past year and I just really appreciate her candor and humility when it comes to what she needed to do to accomplish her financial goal. As someone who's carried a lot of school loans around, this is so inspiring!
After getting a job that's full time work from home, I've been on a continual mission to downsize my wardrobe. One method I use to help when I'm on-the-fence about an item is to remove it from general population (LOL) and isolate it in a bin, a box, a bag intended for donation...and then see how I feel about it. I don't have a set routine, but at some point I'll revisit that container and see if I even thought about that clothing item since it went in there! If I haven't, or if I didn't go looking for it, that's a good sign I don't need it.
I’m on a hybrid model, so half in half out of the office, and I now buy things I can wear in my corporate role that are appropriate and that I can dress down on weekends. I rotate about five outfits bc if the men can wear the same Stupid trousers and rotate their collection of blue or white shirts, then I can repeat my outfits. I’m spending way less and my style is en pointe, so this is working out for me.
I love that our mindsets are shifting from having the must have to being financially stable. I also love how Christina addresses it’s minimalist-ish mindset. Not all or nothing. Additionally I love hearing that holding on for something, “just in case” usually doesn’t happen. And that having pieces that work multiple purpose is a great idea; IE a wedding or work. Overall I love this interview, change in thinking, consuming, and styling ourselves day to day. What an awesome interview!
Also love how Chelsea said "Uncle Dave", LOL. This is a great convo, and to Chelsea's point, you're really not overdressed in a lot of situations. Her ball game comment made me think about seeing men in khakis and button downs at baseball games (like watching the Red Sox) and thinking you could tell they were real fans because they didn't feel the need to dress up in a casual t-shirt to go. Dressing the way you want to dress is a way to show that you don't really need to prove anything.
Has anyone tried Express or Banana Republic style rental services? I knew I’d never wear my graduation dress again, so I rented it out from Express. The first month is free of charge, so basically got to wear the dress and a blazer for one day and return it for no cost. I’m thinking to continue renting for the coming Fall since sweaters and jackets are really bulky to store in the closet. I personally find it hard to style sweaters in multiple ways hence I stick to buying staples and renting seasonal clothes.
For 10 years I've been renting dresses from Rent the Runway, they have a subscription now to get several pieces a month, but I used to just rent formal dresses.
We as her audience saw Her hit rock bottom it was very hard for her. I compare it to a drug addict. She was so sad and now she is so happy. And she is definitely cured. ❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰
I have 2 thoughts about this topic: 1) I would sometimes believe that getting a aprticular item (bag in my case) would get me closer to the life I wanted to have, but was not there yet. 2) re: wearing Zara head toe and then 1 designer piece - I think it's perfectly fine to focus on investing in one area of your wardrobe. I would buy (good quality) non-designer/high street brands for clothes and shoes and focus my investments on designer bags (which I have a soft spot for).
I appreciate you raising concerns re: class issues, but think the issue isn’t the quality or type of clothing you have, it’s the volume/quantity that’s the problem and that reduced item collection can be made up of any type of clothing.
It is really important for all women to have a wardrobe they feel great in, unfortunately, we are still judged based entirely on our appearance. Go into debt, if you must, for a college education, but not for a wardrobe and cosmetics! University degrees pay one back, but trendy fashion doesn’t. In my six years at university I just couldn’t afford much, working every hour I could, but I really didn’t need much. A couple pairs of jeans, some t-shirts, a jacket and sneakers sufficed. When I began my career in a formal corporate office, I really needed a lot, just to make ten outfits. Wearing the same outfit on rotation every two work weeks was fine, then. It makes me sad to see young adult women still being supported at home by their parents, who spend all their earnings on designer bags and other luxuries, instead of getting a good education or learning to live independently. Many have parents who cook, do laundry, pay their car insurance, etc. for them. That’s not living in the real world, which has rent/mortgages, food and utilities, car and insurance expenses, etc.
Thank you so much for saying its a mistake to throw out clothes out when they don't fit. Its taken me until my 50's to realised that I go through phases in clothes sizes and I probably always will.
My grams was a head RN and had such a hassle reading Dr handwriting. I, to this day, request the Dr also print my chat when I get an RX so that if needed I can give the PHRX that too so they know what she meant.
When I was younger I cared more about my outward perception instead of curating my own sense of self. I’m now in my early 30’s and spend more time building a long lasting wardrobe then keeping up with trends. Trends come and go, I dress for me…jeans, Tee’s, and flat shoe’s! 😁
I always dress nice. My mom always taught me that you should dress for the occasion. I would never wear pajama pants even to Walmart in public. I notice that when I dress professionally, I get treated better. That's why I always dress nice when going on a plane or dealing with things like renting, etc.
Christina's videos are so helpful. I'm still battling my childhood insecurities with trying to have the perfect cool girl wardrobe and rewatching all her videos including those from years ago help me so much to try and get out of that cycle. We're all still battling our childhood demons.
I just moved but the hospital Pharmacist who handled my meds for my kidney stone was amazing. She helped me get generic swaps that were cheaper that my insurance would cover nearly all of. She also got me water so I could take the pain killer right then.
what a wonderful episode. summer of last year i started taking my debt repayment seriously and discovered Christina's channel around the same time, it's been such a comfort and help to have her videos as inspiration and motivation and i've learned a lot.
For the nostalgic pieces, I try to keep one piece from each "era" that is in good condition, especially if it's something my daughter will wear or use as a costume or think is funny or cute down the line 🙂 If it's in poor condition and can't be repurposed, it gets the boot
“It's important to note that this is becoming more and more ubiquitous. Wages have been declining or remaining stagnant for decades now. The rise in things like unpaid internships has made it all but impossible to get a job without at least at some point doing underpaid or totally unpaid work. And this depression of wages is not just limited to glamorous industries. This is a vicious cycle that we are economically seeing across the board in nearly every industry. As wages go down it is more and more necessary that people starting in industries have other ways of supporting themselves to remain competitive often in the form of Rich parents and having people who don't need to be paid for their work or at least don't need to be paid competitively allows capitalists to make more money and wages to remain depressed” As someone trying to transition into a different field of work without going homeless, this is so validating to hear.
Intentionalism i think is a better goal and often what we really mean. Not goal to live with as little as possible, but to deburden yourself of things that consume your time, money and space but provide no meaning utility or sociological benifit.
I have to admit that having ADHD makes these types of compulsive behaviours difficult to control (especially if you have the impulsive or mixed type). Can you do a video on dealing with finances when you have this type of ADHD?
I should definitely be invited to one of these shows, but sadly I am not a UA-camr ☺️😳 The thing is, I represent other spectrum of women who do not buy. I should. I have money, I am high earner. But I have to force myself to buy something. I came to a point where I literally had nothing to wear to the office after 2 years working from home.
As a curvy person (a kibbe romantic lol) clothes shopping has always been really frustrating & expensive for me. I've been struggling with over-buying & purging because most everything "on trend" since I was born looks terrible on me. It's fed into really horrible self-esteem issues, and feeling like I'm always too big, ugly, etc. Fashion, let alone the minimalist movement, hasn't really catered to my body since the 1940's (and even then, not really). This is what I've learned about the basics for curvy people. Capsule wardrobes for very curvy ppl (in shape, not just due to weight): High waisted jeans (or trousers) with a slight flare at the bottom (or larger if you like that). Peplum V-necks look very flattering regardless of sleeve length. A mid-knee length fit & flare, mermaid style dress is wearable for everyday, dates, and events. Fitted skirts with a slight flare or following the same guide above are also flattering. Coats should have rounded collars, fitted sleeves to your arm length, and tailored to match the curves of your body. I tend to go for either midi-length vintage 1940s style coats, or cropped sweaters that taper through the rib cage and waist and accommodate a larger bust. Essentially, just make sure the fabric follows the dips & curves of your body. Wearing super narrow, or overly boxy clothes just makes it look like we're a sausage OR swimming in fabric. It's disharmonious with our overall shape & ime feels more like the clothes are wearing me than the other way around. You have to be quite picky with what you buy, and to be honest I would recommend getting some hand-made pieces for things like coats/jackets. For colors/patterns/textures: neutrals are the safe option but you should go for what suits your complexion and preferences. I go for soft fabrics that are more moldable to my shape. Im quite pale and cool toned so I wear mostly neutrals, & light cool tone colors (a lot of light blue, beige, white). Adding some details can really change the whole vibe ~ I lean towards "girly" details like floral and lace accents, but using different textures or abstract shapes helps create interest without being overtly girly. There's nothing wrong with plain solid colors if that's what's comfortable as well.
Can we have a moment to fully appreciate Chelsea's comment about looking at the collection of shirt pics on the phone! 🤣🤣🤣 "Wow that was a great shirt!" 🤣🤣🤣
To me, minimalism is just keeping life free from things that don’t bring value. I value having free space in my home, saving time cleaning, not getting stressed by clutter etc
I pay a housekeeper to do the stuff I don't like.
Saving time cleaning is such the dream!
@@Iquey 💯
I really wish I could do this.
Eeeeeek thank you SO SO much for having meeeee! What a great discussion and let’s be real, a dream come true! Always fangirling over TFD! 🥹🥹🥹
Ah love a good crossover! Amazing 🤩
Loved hearing about your journey! I'm in a similar field and I love budgeting and decluttering. This whole conversation made me so happy 😁
it's so lovely to see you in TFD! 😍
Thank you for sharing. I’m sure it will help a lot of people.
I wished I could have heard more about the Gucci shoes and why a stranger’s perception of you held so much power. I really appreciated your openness Christina.
About "overdressing": as someone who frequently wears clothing too extra for the situation, I have never seen anyone reacting to it negatively, and I frequently get compliments, smiles, etc. At the end of the day it's actually fun for most people to see someone wearing a witch hat in the post office, or a vintage formal dress in Goodwill.
I agree and would like to add that enormous fairy wings will get you plenty of personal space!
@@silliepixie omg yes why i have never thought about this
the polar opposite of dreary tech oligarchs at minute 25:00! :)
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I LOVE seeing someone who’s dressed with fun and personality out in public. Never stop please 😊
When Chelsea said "not Uncle Dave" that literally had me LOL 😂. I appreciate this convo. Decluttering my wardrobe, makeup and even kitchenware has cleared my mind and has given me peace. I remember in my early twenties I randomly thought "Why do I have heels, I don't even wear heels." and I used to purchase them because I wanted to make myself like them, which was unrealistic. I donated those heels and more than half of my wardrobe of clothes I didn't even wear or like to a women's shelter. I believe as most of us get older we are less influenced by what we are told is cool and what we are told we need.
Lol, I was cracking up when she said that too!
I feel you on the heels! lol
Samesies on the heels girl. I have to declutter my kitchenwares, but only because I inherited my mother's.
I love heels so much but am never in situations to wear them 😭 I own them as art objects basically lmao. I wish I could wear them more
I purged 3 items while I watched and am returning clothes I bought just because and just received today. Yay me!
Unfortunately, unless you bought those clothes you now plan to return from an ethical company (one where returns actually get resold), there is the possibility that those returns may just be discarded....sad but true
Chelsea isn't lying about clothes. My loved one was in the hospital for a month. I dressed like a hospital admin every day visiting (my wfh uniform of tees and leggings was greatly missed, but I mostly wore cardigans with blouses, slim pants and nice shoes) but I got treated ENORMOUSLY better. All the doctors spoke to me with caring regard, and ignored other family members.
Wow, this is something to think about
@@amateurastronomer9752 true and it’s a little concerning. I mean you still care about your family members and the progress.
this is partly why I started wearing button up shirts, and found a style that's comfy for me. I get treated more respectfully, and if I find ones that still fit my style, I can still express myself
Yep. It works nearly all the time. Shallow? Yes. But, there it is. A well dressed person somehow still commands respect, whether or not it is true respect is another story.
You aren’t kidding. I am watching this on closed captioned video as I am writing this, waiting for results from tests in emergency waiting room. My boyfriend urged me to go to ER to be on the safe side (i live in canada and am grateful for free healthcare although I have been waiting for 5 hours)..
my boyfriend said I will pick you up in 30 mins and take you to the ER.
I chose to wear taupe wool lounge pants, cashmere jumper and light wool cream overcoat. Slicked my hair back and packed a little hospital leather bag.
I can tell you I was treated with so much more dignity and respect today being admitted than in previous visits when in the middle of the night or otherwise, looking disheveled, and, well, SICK! To think that I was treated so much better today is crazy, considering it’s a HOSPITAL! Of course you won’t be treated any faster as it is a triage system as it should be, but I am absolutely shocked.
Ironically, my usual thought when seeing someone in Gucci is "they are so desperate to make people think they're rich that they probably aren't really all that well off."
SAME.
Brands generally make me think "high debt tolerance" before anything else
It’s hard to admire a person that spends so much money on something that usually looks a little trashy or just super basic. Gucci and Versace both make nice clothes, but I wouldn’t pay that much for a weirdly patterned t-shirt or slippers even if I could afford it.
I do buy their perfume though. That’s actually worth the cost and smells good on my moderately priced clothes!
(I grew up poor and really wanting Calvin Klein or Guess, so their regular stuff is totally okay!) 😉
I can feel justified buying lots of expensive perfume, since I can enjoy it every day and for years to come. And it always fits. 🥰
The host essentially says that directly at 23:30.
My immediate thought when I see Gucci is it's fake. Maybe it's the nature of gaudy Gucci, which can be a vibe, but it just looks cheap to me.
I never had anything new to wear as a child, teenager or young adult (until I finished at university). Everything came from thrift stores. I didn’t even have a single jacket or coat for winter, just an old sweater that the wind and cold cut right through. This sense of material deprivation is still with me at age 62, so my bad-time default impulse is to buy wardrobe items, especially jackets and coats! I try to recognize, then ignore or re-channel this impulse when it comes on.
Same here. I bought the newest trends when I was working at Kaufmann’s and put myself into some serious debt. In my thirties and forties I discovered thrift stores that didn’t appreciate vintage style and could find choice well made items without designer labels. Although I do have a cedar trunk full of vintage Harris Tweed coats….all with matching leather gloves. And a few gorgeous fake furs. Lots of coats….too many coats. I’ve cut back on thrifting because there is so much fast fashion….
One piece of advice that I've found useful for people that are into more of a maximalist style or multiple distinct styles is to kind of think of yourself as a comic character, so you know how they have this distinct pieces and wild stuff but it all sorts matches and vibes together? Something like that it's helped me figure out how to keep things fun without hoarding or changing styles super often
Great advice, thank you!
omg a friend once described me and my wardrobe as being like a cartoon character! haha
A fun pair of pants that goes with your color pallet! (Or extremely colorful so everything matches haha)
I so love this conversation because I share this type of info with friends. When I was living in Michigan I felt I needed to have a lot of clothes because we experience 4 seasons. But a couple of years ago, I started getting rid of things drawer by drawer. Next thing you know an entire dresser chest was being thrown out. Fast forward, I am traveling the world with only carry-on luggage! Solid colors create multiple outfits, and having such a limited wardrobe is so freeing!!!
15:19 very relatable, the idea of buying our way into wealth is so popular. Coming from a lower income background, it feels like the people around me buy material items with brand names to peacock and show that we’ve attained a certain level of success. But these status items keep us broke. It’s hard to move past that idea and plan for the future, so those items seem so attainable and makes people feel good right away.
Re Gucci flats: Luxury brands ‘market’ to the extremely wealthy and appear coveted but given that small leather goods are the top seller, I view them (shoes/belts/purses) as a proxy for the middle class. It did take some financial education to recognize this ploy (and I still want some Chanel flats) but it help ease my aspirational shopping/desire. Hope this helps someone!
This is a great point
I can relate to this story hard. I made a huge career shift from bartending to finance and felt a huge gaping insecurity pretty quickly. As a queer woman of color who doesn't come from much, I felt intense pressure to dump a bunch of money into transforming my working class appearance: my rough hands from working for years in bars, my utilitarian clothing, my lack of makeup, etc. I felt the need to do this because while the stereotype of the shlubby millionaire is valid for men, women are expected to pour money into her appearance when she's financially successful. And I felt and still feel I need to do this to some degree for clients to feel that they can trust me with their money. That being said I've come to find a way to be somewhat economical while having fun with my new professional wardrobe. Thrifting and consignment are my new best friends. And it allows me to play with new looks without bankrupting myself. Thanks for this confessional.
I am living for these collabs between TFD and my fave UA-camrs!
Firstly, love both your channels! Not sure if it's because of the virtual interview, I feel like the two of you didn't click as well as with guests in other episodes. Chelsea missed Christina's cues when she was uncomfortable or disagreed with certain topics, similarly Christina missed Chelsea's hints for where she wanted to lead the convo. Chelsea has a more to-the-point direct conversation style, but Christina has a less confrontational/ more inclusive language style that works better as a casual chat. It led to (in my opinion) more formality and nervousness on both sides, and led to a fairly surface-level conversation. Still interesting to listen to though! But would be interesting to hear some informal topics you both disagree on, if there's ever another collab between you guys ❤️
I noticed that too.
I love Chelsea and TFD, but this convo was uncomfortable. Christina didn’t particularly answer the questions, but went off on tangents. Lovely girl, mind you.
Well said, I completely agree with you!
I don't watch a ton of TFD but I noticed the host just isn't particularly friendly or agreeable in general. Her "interesting" came off as skeptical rather than true interest
I also over-corrected from a shopping problem to unyielding minimalism, so this was a fun conversation for me. It sounds like Christina has found a balance that I've really struggled to find.
I really enjoyed Christina’s interview! It was even better than Hannah’s tbh, well for me anyway, it was more relevant.
You might really enjoy her more recent content then. It’s slowly transformed into this ‘minimalist-ish’ type branding over the last couple of years.
I really like Christina and feels like she's much more practical then hard core minimalists. But I still feel like a capsule wardrobe is for people who really like neutrals and don't have wildly divergent activities in their life.
I have a very colorful capsule. I use color theory. So you could pick Tints, Tones, Shades or Hues b/c literally every color in the category goes w/ all others.
I have multiple capsules: casual, exercise/active, home/pj, and work. I wear lots of color too. My life is incredibly varied and my wardrobe needs to reflect that so several capsules helps me maintain a manageable wardrobe while still satisfying each clothing need.
@@BubblyViolin11 I am the same! You said it well
You can have different capsules for the different activities in life
as someone who aspires to minimalism but is definitely not a minimalist yet, I really appreciate the term "minimal-ish" 😅
I never buy designer clothes yet this conversations has been very helpful to me. Self compassion seems to be THE skill to practice, thanks for that reminder. The follower Q&A was fab
In Defense of the kibbe system, it's just a tool like minimalism. You can follow it as much or as little as you want and for those that have no idea what suits them it gives them an idea. Like for me, I did the test and watched videos and it was exactly what I was already thinking/wearing so really it just confirmed what I think does and doesn't look good on me with a little added "why" it does or doesn't it look good on me and how I can maybe adapt it to. I also like that its more about working WITH your body than against it like the fruits system and others that are trying to make everyone an hourglass.
Just a different perspective 😊
Completely agree! 😊
I always loved clothes clothes and accessories, but was a careful, within-budget shopper and I had a one-in, one-out rule to keep my wardrobe manageable. But, during the pandemic lockdowns (I was on almost 2.5 years of home isolation because of high risk medical factors), I got hooked on online shopping to relieve my loneliness and boredom. Receiving a new item was the only thing on the horizon that I felt I could look forward to. I couldn’t even be with my family, especially my Mom, in what turned out to be her last years (she was very high-risk too, because of the lung disease that killed her in June). I’m not going to beat myself up for this behavior, it did help me through a very difficult time. But, I’ve returned to my normal shopping habits, with a budget, and am paying off the debt I incurred. I don’t charge anything now, just use my debit card. Opening those store credit cards was a mistake, too, it makes it all too easy to buy more than I can afford (they’re paid and closed now). Now, I really need to do a big wardrobe purge, I put up two racks for extra clothes, because my closet was full (it’s tiny, but used to hold everything I needed for a single season). I’ve also been hanging onto clothes that are far too big for me, because they are great quality classics, but after years, I don’t think I’m going to gain that weight back.
I'm sorry for your loss.
been a fan since her handle was still styleapotheca and couldn't be more excited to watch christina x chelsea in this ♥
I used to love this channel back in the day when Chelsea still had this smallish apartment and was sharing her newfound financial wisdom with empathy and solidarity. She was honest and relatable, much like Christina is in this interview and her other videos. This is my soft (trying here) way of saying that the appeal of the channel (particularly when on this minimalist fashion topic) is dissipating. As a viewer, I often feel spoken down to, judged, and led to a pre-determined TFD conclusion. I'm going to hop off for a bit, but thanks for reminding me of how much I like Christina's channel.
AMAZING GUEST!!! 👏👏👏😃👌👌👌. Christina was soooooo open and honest and REAL and generous. Fantastic information! Thank you!
Around 18:30, when Christina talks about the slippery slope of 'levelling up' and buying more and more expensive things and not batting an eye, I felt that. When I was 18, I thought the £70 TopShop overcoat a girl in my year had was the pinnacle of human existence. Now, in my mid-20s with a 'real job', it's a £300 APC bag. It never ends, it just escalates. It's not wrong to have One Nice Thing (if it's not going to wreck me financially), but it just makes me want more, and when I get the thing it doesn't make me excited anymore, which is a problem. When I feel the itch to shop, I know I'm much better off just going outside and touching grass lol.
Or smell the roses :)
Yep I felt that too - and I’m in my late 40s - when I started making money in my 30s here I am trying to catch up 🤷🏽♀️well so the bills they sure followed me too
LOVE Christina ! Have watched her for several years - as I have YOU. Both from your beginnings. Great interview. AND I love both NYC & Toronto ! Both are second homes to me in my heart , with decades of cherished memories, since childhood. Christina, your “cheesy answer” at the end was beautiful & authentic. Life affirming, too. I cried ! We can all overcome our insecurities , and feel genuinely good ! Thank you for being an inspiration. Hugs from Buffalo, NY - Liz
I’ve been following Christina for years and she’s helped me to stay inspired to spend less and intentionally, so great to see her and Chelsea together! 💖
A tip for the size fluctuation, especially for bloating, buy your pants a little big in the waste and then string an elastic band through the waste. You’ll have perfectly fitted pants throughout those fluctuations
Someone needs to open up a discussion around the difficulty of maintaining a functional, attractive and affordable wardrobe when you’re someone with a disability. For myself, I’ve been dealing with issues of my body changing so dramatically so often, that sometimes I feel like my clothes (and hence my wallet) can’t keep up. And it’s not JUST my disability-it’s also menopause. What fit well and made me feel fantastic 6 months ago now looks awful, and no doubt in another 6 months, I feel the same about what I buy now. There’s a part of me that deep down perhaps wishes that a public “uniform” might not be a bad idea. Because with the expense and waste of fast fashion and changing tastes, I feel like I’ll never look good again.
I can't speak to having a disability myself, but finding a personal uniform changed my life for the better, and I see the same positive impact in my mom and my grandmas (who had their own versions of a uniform for decades - but there was enough color and pattern that I wouldn't notice until I was an adult how they were essentially wearing the same outfit every day). All three struggle with mobility issues, yet they always look modest and presentable.
Mine is a long sleeve maxi dress with buttons in the front and deep pockets. The fabric washes well and I imagine it'll fit me for years, even if my body fluctuates. It drapes beautifully with my current figure, but it's stretchy/loose enough to accommodate a future pregnancy or other big lifestyle changes. I do have other pieces in my closet to inject variety, but this one piece works for most of my daily activities so I just bought the same exact dress in several colors.
My mom is in care home and she is on the heavier side but she manages to dress with style. She can only wears pants ans they are not special, just comfortable. But she wears colorful tops that enhance her skin tone and she completes it with costume jewelry, a good haircut and a large smile. She is my fashion and life inspiration.
I would love a TFD success story segment where people can come on and say what tips from TFD they applied and how it helped them especially when it comes to paying off debt. I like how Dave Ramsey has that component and I think it helps build his credibility.
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Gucci and Coach and Juicy etc seem like symbols that say “I have money but no developed sense of taste” or “I’m really scared of other people and I have social anxiety … but if I just have this belt or purse then even the worst judgements from strangers won’t be too bad.”
It’s like wearing armor. I get how that must be so comforting and addictive.
Those colors suit you so well, Chelsie!! You're radiant ✨
I came here to say this too!! I love how Chelsea always points her outfits to her guests’ style while still maintaining her own personal palette 😍
Tip for anyone living in an apartment who plans on moving to a house they own later. When you de-clutter or clean a room, make an inventory of all the stuff you have already and keep that list like on your phone with a google doc, or pc etc. That way you know exactly what you have to pack for your eventual move AND you have a list to keep yourself from purchasing doubles of things you already own. You can tally your shirts for instance and see if you really need another one.
When we are young it is easy to look good in fashionable clothes, we dont have a belly that needs covering or hiding, like in our 60's and fashion is an attractive hobby. I remember looking at fashion magazine adds and wanting to dress in luxurious brands, but after inquiring about the price of these items, I quickly realized that they were out of reach. To me , these glamorous clothes reflected that I was successful and could afford the finer things in life. But when you really think about it, the best in our lives are our family and friends and spending time with them.
The other very precious thing in life is TIME, we have a limited amount of it and we must make the most out of it. The more you spent, the more you have to work and less time you have to enjoy time for yourself, you become a slave.
Great guest, she is one of my favorites, along with HLP!
Half way through the interview I literally got up and curated my wardrobe. Great insights. Thank you!
Personally, went waaaay overboard with my budgeting, trying to fast track my financial goals! While I definitely was able to allocate a huge portion of my relatively low income to savings and investments, I stopped allowing myself more than $100CAD every paycheck (bi-weekly) that I could spend on clothing, food out, drinks, entertainment etc. After about a year of this low-buy, I was anxious about my money (despite having an extremely comfortable amount in the bank) and feeling like my hard work was getting me nowhere. I put money away into a just for fun sinking fund and have been allowing myself to splurge on some utilitarian high quality pieces and have been feeling great about it!! Love the wishlist as for me, the time spent choosing specific items is the part of the process I have the most fun with!! Once things are on the wishlist, they can either be cash flowed or budgeted for accordingly - I get new, beautiful high quality pieces that I love and I have zero buyer's remorse or guilt about spending!! Will admit, Aritzia is also a guilty pleasure, must be a 🇨🇦 thing lol, great video!!
Nah Aritzia is popular even here in the SF Bay. I blame gloomy weather 🤣
I enjoyed this conversation and I follow Christina on UA-cam! Nice to hear her story. I was attracted to her quick clean up before bed and no dirty dishes to greet us in the morning. Lovely person. Chelsea, great set and your hair looks fabulous.
Regarding grandma's coat: If you interact with it in any way, you use it. Not every item has to be used in the intended way to be of personal use/value
I really appreciate the shame free environment you've created with this series! It helped me face some things about my spending habits, and realize I'm not alone in how I got to this point. Thank you TFD!
I am decluttering as I listen! Great tips and thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your journey with all of us! It definitely feels so much lighter and liberating to free yourself of clutter
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Yeah! Fellow pharmacist! (The dirty secret of our industry is PBMs, by the way. And probably every pharmacist you will ever meet hates them.) I relate so much to that experience of taking out all that loan money for school and thinking it will be fine because your salary will make the payoff affordable. The truth is that you probably WILL be able to afford the payments (which, hey, is more than some people can), but the amount you owe is so large that your monthly payments can easily be the size of a mortgage. It definitely takes some of the fun out of that big salary when you're using a third or more of it to pay student loans every month.
This was the first time I had heard someone mention about the difficulty of creating a capsule wardrobe when you're weight fluctuates. I had bought a few pairs of pants last year to start a more capsule like wardrobe that are now too tight. It's so discouraging.
Totally relate to this
i really appreciate christina's honesty.
Also, the wishlist is so real. It serves both a reminder purpose, in that you don’t forget what you wanted and aren’t ambushed by the desire when you do remember, but also every time you look at the wishlist, you are forced to think an extra time “do I even want it, really?”
Yes, I love using a wish list to think things over before making a purchase!
Thanks for the collab! 😍 glad, she shared her story and that she therefore helps to destigmatize how mental health can be correlated to shopping issues a/o addictions.
I for example therapized myself for a long time with clothes, because I realized throught therapy that shopping for clothes was propably one of the few moments where I felt that my mom showed me affection (maybe it was the only love language she felt comfortable with?) … ergo that‘s the only way I knew how to be nice to myself
I feel you! We grew up receiving pre loved clothes from wealthy cousins for a long time! Since I had my money, I started to accumulate items like I would never miss anything more, or would have to inherited clothes !
I wanted to add to this conversation that I really struggled with self-compassion, despite the fact that I had a therapist helping at the time (probably around 6 years ago). It's only in the last few months that I've been able to start working on this by literally sitting with my emotional 'pain and suffering'. This is really hard to do so I can understand how I tried to avoid it for ages.
She is so much more now, happy and free and still so stylish❤️❤️❤️🌺
Wild timing. I just found Christina’s channel this week & and now she’s one TFD. Love it
Waiting for this collab forever!! Christina is amazing
For “just in case” items I give them a time limit because all the ones I have are ones I really do like. My rule is 2yrs, if it doesn’t get work in 2 years it goes. I know many people say 6-12mos (depending on if they have actual seasons or not), but due to my area and other factors an item may not get worn in a year (usually winter clothes) but 2yrs in I know whether it will be worn or not.
My work wardrobe is generally on the more casual side of professional so I often wear those as my every day clothes too since they are super comfortable and look non-slobbish when I am running errands, then I keep casual clothes for activities, cleaning, anything that might be “messy” and a couple of professional outfits for when the occasion calls for it.
I’m not usually a long format video viewer but couldn’t miss this episode with Christina. The time went by so fast because she dropped so much interesting info! Really enjoyed this conversation!
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I have a summer size and a winter size. I’m in agreement about not trying to squeeze into clothes too tight. I don’t let shop assistants talk me into smaller jeans anymore. I remember it was the norm to say, but as tighter jeans as you can get on as they stretch. I’ve spent years in too tight jeans on that advice. I’m now only buying what fits and what is comfortable.
hearing Christina's spontaneous laughter was so lovely! I assume she edits them out of her own videos so it was nice to see it here :)
I watched a lot of Christina’s videos when I first got into minimalism. The algorithm must’ve been gearing up for this collab because I’ve seen more of her videos on my homepage than usual lately 😅
You inspire me so much!! In Brazil we grow up with absolutely NO education on finances and I’ve learned so much from you. Thank you!! ❤
Love that my two fav UA-camrs collaborated together. Awesome!! This made my day!!
It would be so cool to have a video series focused on money management by international influencers - it’s interesting to learn new perspectives on how cultural differences creep into consumerism and lifestyle changes
Yes, two of my favorite UA-camrs/ women I truly respect and admire collab together 👍 Love it ❤️
I've been following Christina for over a year now and I find her inspirational and love to see how she's evolved and love watching this channel and your both together. Thoroughly enjoyed 🥰🥰🥰
Love love love Christina! I've been following her for the past year and I just really appreciate her candor and humility when it comes to what she needed to do to accomplish her financial goal. As someone who's carried a lot of school loans around, this is so inspiring!
After getting a job that's full time work from home, I've been on a continual mission to downsize my wardrobe. One method I use to help when I'm on-the-fence about an item is to remove it from general population (LOL) and isolate it in a bin, a box, a bag intended for donation...and then see how I feel about it. I don't have a set routine, but at some point I'll revisit that container and see if I even thought about that clothing item since it went in there! If I haven't, or if I didn't go looking for it, that's a good sign I don't need it.
I’m on a hybrid model, so half in half out of the office, and I now buy things I can wear in my corporate role that are appropriate and that I can dress down on weekends. I rotate about five outfits bc if the men can wear the same
Stupid trousers and rotate their collection of blue or white shirts, then I can repeat my outfits. I’m spending way less and my style is en pointe, so this is working out for me.
I love that our mindsets are shifting from having the must have to being financially stable. I also love how Christina addresses it’s minimalist-ish mindset. Not all or nothing. Additionally I love hearing that holding on for something, “just in case” usually doesn’t happen. And that having pieces that work multiple purpose is a great idea; IE a wedding or work. Overall I love this interview, change in thinking, consuming, and styling ourselves day to day. What an awesome interview!
Love this collab for Christina and TFD!!
Same. I started following them about the same time.
Also love how Chelsea said "Uncle Dave", LOL. This is a great convo, and to Chelsea's point, you're really not overdressed in a lot of situations. Her ball game comment made me think about seeing men in khakis and button downs at baseball games (like watching the Red Sox) and thinking you could tell they were real fans because they didn't feel the need to dress up in a casual t-shirt to go. Dressing the way you want to dress is a way to show that you don't really need to prove anything.
Has anyone tried Express or Banana Republic style rental services? I knew I’d never wear my graduation dress again, so I rented it out from Express. The first month is free of charge, so basically got to wear the dress and a blazer for one day and return it for no cost. I’m thinking to continue renting for the coming Fall since sweaters and jackets are really bulky to store in the closet. I personally find it hard to style sweaters in multiple ways hence I stick to buying staples and renting seasonal clothes.
Formal an special occasion dressing should be something one should be able to rent, similar to how men who need tuxes rent them, not buy them
For 10 years I've been renting dresses from Rent the Runway, they have a subscription now to get several pieces a month, but I used to just rent formal dresses.
We as her audience saw Her hit rock bottom it was very hard for her. I compare it to a drug addict. She was so sad and now she is so happy. And she is definitely cured. ❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰
I have 2 thoughts about this topic:
1) I would sometimes believe that getting a aprticular item (bag in my case) would get me closer to the life I wanted to have, but was not there yet.
2) re: wearing Zara head toe and then 1 designer piece - I think it's perfectly fine to focus on investing in one area of your wardrobe. I would buy (good quality) non-designer/high street brands for clothes and shoes and focus my investments on designer bags (which I have a soft spot for).
I really hope one day you will write a book about whatever you want.
I think you have a very special way to express your ideas and thoughts! 🧡🙌🏼
I appreciate you raising concerns re: class issues, but think the issue isn’t the quality or type of clothing you have, it’s the volume/quantity that’s the problem and that reduced item collection can be made up of any type of clothing.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I sensed a weird competitive vibe from Chelsea here and very subtle shade you would miss if you blinked.
A few of her assumptions and comments definitely made Christina very apparently uncomfortable.
The fact that I remember that exact Gap sweater and I begged my mom to get one !
It is really important for all women to have a wardrobe they feel great in, unfortunately, we are still judged based entirely on our appearance. Go into debt, if you must, for a college education, but not for a wardrobe and cosmetics! University degrees pay one back, but trendy fashion doesn’t. In my six years at university I just couldn’t afford much, working every hour I could, but I really didn’t need much. A couple pairs of jeans, some t-shirts, a jacket and sneakers sufficed. When I began my career in a formal corporate office, I really needed a lot, just to make ten outfits. Wearing the same outfit on rotation every two work weeks was fine, then. It makes me sad to see young adult women still being supported at home by their parents, who spend all their earnings on designer bags and other luxuries, instead of getting a good education or learning to live independently. Many have parents who cook, do laundry, pay their car insurance, etc. for them. That’s not living in the real world, which has rent/mortgages, food and utilities, car and insurance expenses, etc.
Omg another of my favorite ladies! Thank u for having her and Hannah :)
Thank you so much for saying its a mistake to throw out clothes out when they don't fit. Its taken me until my 50's to realised that I go through phases in clothes sizes and I probably always will.
Love Christina's channel ❤️ and she inspired my minimilist journey love from South Africa 🇿🇦
My grams was a head RN and had such a hassle reading Dr handwriting. I, to this day, request the Dr also print my chat when I get an RX so that if needed I can give the PHRX that too so they know what she meant.
When I was younger I cared more about my outward perception instead of curating my own sense of self. I’m now in my early 30’s and spend more time building a long lasting wardrobe then keeping up with trends. Trends come and go, I dress for me…jeans, Tee’s, and flat shoe’s! 😁
Yes, I love a timeless look!
Really enjoyed this collaboration and for Christina’s honesty. Thank you🙏🏽
I always dress nice. My mom always taught me that you should dress for the occasion. I would never wear pajama pants even to Walmart in public. I notice that when I dress professionally, I get treated better. That's why I always dress nice when going on a plane or dealing with things like renting, etc.
Your guest was so gracious! Thank you for interviewing her! 😊
I know that there were larger takeaways from this video but when Chelsea said “Not Uncle Dave” I damn near lost it. 😂😂😂
The way she loathes him endlessly always makes me chuckle
Same!!!
same! LOL
I really enjoyed Christina. She’s a terrific guest.
Christina's videos are so helpful. I'm still battling my childhood insecurities with trying to have the perfect cool girl wardrobe and rewatching all her videos including those from years ago help me so much to try and get out of that cycle. We're all still battling our childhood demons.
Check out Ronald L Banks too. He went through the same thing. Talks a lot about fantasy self
I just moved but the hospital Pharmacist who handled my meds for my kidney stone was amazing. She helped me get generic swaps that were cheaper that my insurance would cover nearly all of. She also got me water so I could take the pain killer right then.
what a wonderful episode. summer of last year i started taking my debt repayment seriously and discovered Christina's channel around the same time, it's been such a comfort and help to have her videos as inspiration and motivation and i've learned a lot.
Ah Christina! So excited to see my two favorites UA-camrs (is that still a term?) collaborating.
For the nostalgic pieces, I try to keep one piece from each "era" that is in good condition, especially if it's something my daughter will wear or use as a costume or think is funny or cute down the line 🙂 If it's in poor condition and can't be repurposed, it gets the boot
“It's important to note that this is becoming more and more ubiquitous. Wages have been declining or remaining stagnant for decades now. The rise in things like unpaid internships has made it all but impossible to get a job without at least at some point doing underpaid or totally unpaid work. And this depression of wages is not just limited to glamorous industries. This is a vicious cycle that we are economically seeing across the board in nearly every industry. As wages go down it is more and more necessary that people starting in industries have other ways of supporting themselves to remain competitive often in the form of Rich parents and having people who don't need to be paid for their work or at least don't need to be paid competitively allows capitalists to make more money and wages to remain depressed”
As someone trying to transition into a different field of work without going homeless, this is so validating to hear.
Intentionalism i think is a better goal and often what we really mean. Not goal to live with as little as possible, but to deburden yourself of things that consume your time, money and space but provide no meaning utility or sociological benifit.
I have to admit that having ADHD makes these types of compulsive behaviours difficult to control (especially if you have the impulsive or mixed type). Can you do a video on dealing with finances when you have this type of ADHD?
Or just a neurodivergent episode, because I struggle with this topic a LOT as well, but have a different disorder.
“It’s always a moving target” HUGE takeaway
I should definitely be invited to one of these shows, but sadly I am not a UA-camr ☺️😳
The thing is, I represent other spectrum of women who do not buy. I should. I have money, I am high earner. But I have to force myself to buy something.
I came to a point where I literally had nothing to wear to the office after 2 years working from home.
As a curvy person (a kibbe romantic lol) clothes shopping has always been really frustrating & expensive for me. I've been struggling with over-buying & purging because most everything "on trend" since I was born looks terrible on me. It's fed into really horrible self-esteem issues, and feeling like I'm always too big, ugly, etc. Fashion, let alone the minimalist movement, hasn't really catered to my body since the 1940's (and even then, not really). This is what I've learned about the basics for curvy people.
Capsule wardrobes for very curvy ppl (in shape, not just due to weight):
High waisted jeans (or trousers) with a slight flare at the bottom (or larger if you like that). Peplum V-necks look very flattering regardless of sleeve length. A mid-knee length fit & flare, mermaid style dress is wearable for everyday, dates, and events. Fitted skirts with a slight flare or following the same guide above are also flattering. Coats should have rounded collars, fitted sleeves to your arm length, and tailored to match the curves of your body. I tend to go for either midi-length vintage 1940s style coats, or cropped sweaters that taper through the rib cage and waist and accommodate a larger bust. Essentially, just make sure the fabric follows the dips & curves of your body. Wearing super narrow, or overly boxy clothes just makes it look like we're a sausage OR swimming in fabric. It's disharmonious with our overall shape & ime feels more like the clothes are wearing me than the other way around. You have to be quite picky with what you buy, and to be honest I would recommend getting some hand-made pieces for things like coats/jackets.
For colors/patterns/textures: neutrals are the safe option but you should go for what suits your complexion and preferences. I go for soft fabrics that are more moldable to my shape. Im quite pale and cool toned so I wear mostly neutrals, & light cool tone colors (a lot of light blue, beige, white). Adding some details can really change the whole vibe ~ I lean towards "girly" details like floral and lace accents, but using different textures or abstract shapes helps create interest without being overtly girly. There's nothing wrong with plain solid colors if that's what's comfortable as well.
Chelsea: “it was news to me that pharmacists make really good salaries “ 🤦♀️
I was deadass in the process to find a video to watch while I clean out our closet when this came up. Kismet!
I do that too 😄
OMFreakingG! This interview hit me haaaaaarrrrD AF! Thank you so much! ☺️💫
Can we have a moment to fully appreciate Chelsea's comment about looking at the collection of shirt pics on the phone! 🤣🤣🤣
"Wow that was a great shirt!" 🤣🤣🤣
OMG MY TWO FAVE YT CHANNELS!!!
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