‘Don’t think we should be sending a cent’: Push to stop sending support to Ukraine
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
- Sky News host Liz Storer says Australia should not be “sending a cent” of aid to Ukraine as its war with Russia continues.
Mr Storer joined Sky News Senior Reporter Caroline Marcus to discuss the latest aid support from the government.
“I’ve said until I’m blue in the face and I will continue to say it - this is not our war,” she said.
“This is NATO’s war, it’s in the name - North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, we have nothing to do with it.
“If you look at the history of this, in 1990 Gorbachev was promised by NATO not an inch eastward - that was the line that we’re all familiar with and NATO then promptly snaffled up Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and seven other countries.”
It’s a joke. Fix our homeless crisis and mental health crisis here
Seriously?
@@jiminvernessmental health needs help
Australia had 236+ years to get it together -
Their blatant racism is costing the country trillions- Australia needs to unite with indigenous Australia- prolonging the inevitable is bringing Australia undone!
Australia needs to decolonize? Holding on to their neocolonial systems is making Australia look ugly on the world stage!
@@user-rm4ee5fp2i _"mental health needs help"_
Agreed, 100%.
🟦🟨
@@jiminverness ?
Meanwhile tent city explodes in Brisbane.
Australia belongs to Western imperialists!
Australias racism and prolonging the inevitable against the indigenous peoples is costing Australia trillions-
Why are the neocolonialists afraid of indigenous peoples?
Australia is very loyal to the crown and The STOLENWEALTH!!!
Yes, as Dickie Marvellous, recites his US State Department script and decides to ' stand' for war in the Ukraine.
What is not mentioned, is the real prize in this , the resource rich Donbas region , economic access to the Black Sea,
Port of Odessa, and all those vested Banker interests and anyone who thinks the West wants to share, well what can
I say, the idiot in the room, claiming righteous affirmation of war, does not have a rifle in its hand to defend the
Foriegn war, no, it is safe and secure, and in the knowledge the using the hubris of this platform to sell its opinions,
uncontested and without the acquisition of fact, just repeating a glossary to insure its status as a persona non grata.
Slava Ukraini!
Send the homeless to the front line
@@user-ik2hh6zz8m
Australia’s sold out .
Fark Ukraine
Don’t matter about unemployment, employed workers are finding it tough to get rentals.
This country is farked , completely lost it’s way .
Why are these clowns laughing? She is stating the facts …
They are laughing because they know she is right, and they are embarrassed as they don't have the guts to admit the truth!
@@cosimawagner7831 They're laughing because she is a trashy 🤡.
How sad you are, and un-Australian, little soft one
_"Why are these clowns laughing? She is stating the facts …"_
No, she is stating russian propanda points, false nonsense. She is clownishly uninformed.
@jiminverness Would you care to point out which sentence is not a fact?
100 million dollars is about 300 apartments/homes for Australia's homeless. But our government is saying "Fk the homeless, lets give it to another country."
The whole point of supporting Ukraine is to keep Russia away from Europe, if Russia wins this war then they will be so much closer to Europe and they won't stop there. Putin has already stated they want Alaska back cause the US didn't pay enough for it so we can see the biggest country on Earth wants more territory.
Slava Ukraini!
I was thinking the same man
@@karlospalacio6368 it's heart breaking. I have served in 4 wars, I left the Army in 2008 and I thought I had done something to make this country better. I wasted my time, nothing I did made this a better country. It breaks my heart to see honest hard working Australians living in tents in parks. Many of these people go to work and come back to a tent, the government is happy to take their tax dollars while they live in the street.
@@karlospalacio6368
Ok, we'll stop sending money to Ukraine, Russia wins the war and attacks say Poland? Britain is allied to Poland and so is Germany via NATO, if Britain is at war then so is Australia as we are allies.
The Russians just showed off all the captured and destroyed bushmasters we sent them not long ago. Let's just hand them some more stuff eh?
Miles no doubt flew on a private jet to make this political statement..
You think commercial planes fly into Ukraine after the Russian 53rd Missile Defence Brigade shot down MH17 in 2014?
just another expensive joy flight.
How come Miles had to fly there just to give them the cash. This gov just loves blowing our hard earned. 💸
Aldi bags.
Liz you are right. Spend the money on Australians
Good idea, be myopic, until the invasion comes to your street, then you wake up and say i should have stood with the brave against the bully, but cower away since that suits you
Come out of your bubble, firstly nobody is even close to invading Australia, secondly if you think supporting Ukraine is somehow protecting us????
@@therealmonty66 learn something about what it means to be Australian by looking at our history, soft one. We have always stood for the small against the bully, for more than 100 years. We will continue to do so while real Australians persist.
Slava Ukraini!
@brettforbes sorry mate, incompetence personified. When you send billions to the most corrupt country in Europe led by a nazi sympathiser sending his innocent young men to die for the USA's military industrial complex. You really need to do some reading, it will enlighten you.
We people family that are leaving on the streets shame shame Australian government 😢😢😢😢😢
Not one red cent
But lots of blue and yellow cents, and a healthy dose of good sense.
Australia is not NATO, their not on our borders, short range missles are product in the US, so we are giving money to the US.
Australia is one of NATO's Enhanced Opportunity Partners, a program that aims to maintain and deepen cooperation between partners that have made significant contributions to NATO-led operations and missions. Took five seconds to google that answer.
Good on ya for speaking truth to these propagandist clowns!
Fix problems in our own country first our government is so shit they can’t even support the people in our own country we have a extreme housing crisis, high petrol, high interest rates and expensive food soon people will not be able to live
Absolutely she is 💯 Correct ✅
100 million, why not 50 million and the other 50 million we can use for health and hospitals in our own country.
Why not none at all .
Well we give 5.77 billion a year to foreign aid. None of those have been invaded.
Or. And this might sound crazy. Use the entirety of the 100 mil here…
100 million to Ukraine & we can't feed Australians. This is fucken ridiculous
1 billion overall
There's over 122,000 homeless people in Australia.
1 billion dollars could purchase a large number of transportable building home's to put a roof over their heads.
( similar to what the mining industry use make small village's to house there fly in fly out worker ) know as Donga's
They can range from 2-3 bedroom complete with kitchen shower toilet.
Not large but livable & a dam site safer for women & children than a tent or sleeping outdoors is .
Where dose this government's priorities start .
They can't do anything right or try anything to help the homeless.
I have just mentioned the only way that will make ground on the number of homeless.
The small amount each government allocate present & past . It's enough to outpace the growth rate of homeless.
Bye the time the public housing projects are built the numbers of people needing them has increased far more than numbers that are built each time .
The numbers of homeless are growing large by the day in this case .
Small village type living community,s set on crown lands throughout Australia is the only answer with Donga homes that are rapidly produced is to the only way to make ground on these numbers .
Unless someone can think another plan .
If they can they shouldn't keep it to themselves.
Because Australia needs to address this issue.
&
No government has ever had the answer. It just gets worse .
Australia is a 3 trillion dollar economic country, better to ask where the rest of the money went and if Gillard will pay for the 200 billion that vanished while she was PM.
@@99bevo
If Russia annexes Ukraine they will be that much closer to Europe and they won't stop at Ukraine. Russia has already threatened Finland.
A better solution to the homeless problem is to send refugees to country towns that are currently dying from old age, these towns need revitalising and we could make it mandatory for refugees to move to these towns.
@@technicianbis5250-ig1zdnot Australia’s problem. Russia didn’t start this.
It is NOT our war.
Said like a true moron that doesn’t understand the existential geopolitical and world order consequences of Ukraine losing.
The only one on this panel that is well informed and tells it as it is and tells the true about Ukraine and all the other three can do is laugh or talk over her , just shows their followers and not leaders in their fields of employment.
you clearly haven't read your history of what Australia stands for, but we get it oh self-centred small person
_"The only one on this panel that is well informed"_
...is not Liz.
@@jiminverness tell me who is then I would love to know the facts not jusr words
@@dakie344 For some people the truth is too inconvenient or takes up to much time. Liz stated undeniable facts, nothing else.
@@jelk1188 well if she stated untrue facts tell me what they are cos Liz stated nothing but the facts and I think you need to stop listening to here say and start searching the true then you will see she is telling the truth
Send the politicians
and their sons and daughters too.
To hell with this Government Stop wasting our money Charity begins at home first
So ething the Canadian government will never learn apparently.
Get the money from your own pocket
Yeh that's us
Slava Ukraini!
Dont remember voting for this
Slava Ukraini!
@@MrThatsomg get cooked
Do you want to personally go and defend Ukraine Hildebrand? No? So stop involving Australia hypocrite.
Enduring conflict. ??? Let's end this by not supporting any of them...
Well said Liz 👏👏👏
Ahh...this is what we Aussies are being taxed to death for? 🙆🏻♀️
As you are probably aware, Australia only has over 14,000 pages of tax law.
The highest taxed in the OECD .
Obviously WW3 is not going to pay for itself, paying for everything and dying is what us peasants are for.
Liz with hard facts, as the ignorant side of the panel snicker and giggle like it's a joke.
Money laundering
You're not gifted with brain cells, are you Jim?
Every cent has the potential to mean the needless waste of yet another life. Think on that.
its a war the west can never win , in fact it is already lost
Yeah, russian lives. So?
Every cent will only bring more death to Ukraine, these people fought like the best armies in history but NATO new from the start they had little hope of winning against Russia.
Ukraine is a pawn in a wider Economic war.
I feel for the families of the people lost both in Ukraine and Russia.
@@PopulismIsForBottomFeeders So only Russians are dying? Is that what you're saying?
Disgusting, spend it on australia.
Bloody rediculous.
Liz is indeed correct.
No she’s not correct, think what pootin will do once he’s concurred Ukraine, before our kids retire he will be on our doorstep
All they can do is laugh because she's correct,and i'm an American and rooted for Russia from day one on this because of the things she said.
Why do you support the murderer of innocent Australian civilians Putin?.
_"All they can do is laugh because she's correct,and i'm an American and rooted for Russia from day one on this because of the things she said."_
You rooted for a murdering piece of shite from day one? What sort of person are you? Do you root for Hamas too then?
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k Ukrainiamania is the single greatest existential threat humanity has ever faced, Antimensch.
You have a tiny pea-sized Orc 'brain'.
LIZ STORER...SPOT ON, LET THE PEOPLE LEARN HE TRUTH.....
I guess when uncle Sam says jump , our politicians jump as high as they can !!!!!
EXACTLY..!! 😡😡
It goes much higher than Sam 💁🏽♀️
That's because they are weak and Lied to by America !
You would prefer they took their orders from Murdoch?
I’m with the Sheila in the green dress!!!
I totally agree with her ... Not our war its NATOs war
Putin has threatened nuclear war if NATO troops become involved. This is a war of Russian Imperialist aggression.
Listen, comrade. It is your war, and your BS doesn't change that.
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k Ukrainiamania is the single greatest existential threat humanity has ever faced, Antimensch.
Where’s our money for our boys ?
Slava Ukraini!
Unfortunately she is correct. More money thrown at the problem is not going to help. They need to talk treaty before it’s too late.
_"They need to talk treaty before it’s too late."_
Before it's too late for Putin? It is too late. He's made his bed and he's going to hell in that handbasket.
@@jiminverness Before too late is when there is hardly any Ukraine left perhaps a sliver left in the West where Kyiv is. If the West does not sit to talk to Russia, they will probably go as far as taking Odessa.
@@jiminverness Uh, Russia is winning. The West's gamble backfired. But yeah, keep drinking the koolaid.
Up to the Australians to decide
I wish it was, but it's not. If
Australia had a referendum on this I doubt for a second that people would choose the money going offshore as opposed to helping suffering Australians.
@@cypherpunk12 more the pity
Ukraine wasn't supposed to be a member of NATO. This is all started because of NATO.
NATO exists because Russia was annexing European countries like Georgia, Ukraine, Hungary, Poland and wasn't looking like they would let up. Since NATO, Russia has curbed it's hunger for territories.
Isn't our government supposed to fix the problems at home first?
_"Isn't our government supposed to fix the problems at home first?"_
Can your government only do one thing at a time?
@@jiminverness Apparently, and it's the wrong thing.
And when there is no war governments tell people we just don’t have money !
Yep that's when the austerity whip comes out again. "tighten your belts you filthy plebs"
Slava Ukraini!
only informed panelist is the lady in green.... FACT
Get a new government. We can’t even house our homeless
. When Trump gets the presidentcy this will all go away. And l pray to God we get a new Priminister before our beautiful country turns into a communist one.
Remind us what a decade under the Libs did for the homeless again...?
I love how you can't spell "presidentcy" or "Priminister" You are hilarious. Thanks for the chuckles.
GO TRUMP…!! 👍👍
@@David_Beames you wacking off again?Davy😂😂😂
Yep....just look to America for australias next screw up.
Congress just approved 61billion US dollars most of which going to Ukraine. Zelensky nevertheless happy to pocket the 100 million we give him so he can buy a few more Villas in Italy.
_"Zelensky nevertheless happy to pocket the 100 million we give him so he can buy a few more Villas in Italy."_
Stop lying, russbot.
Liz is correct. Why are we sending money to some war far away ? There are Australian citizens that are homeless and struggling with the cost of living and we Sending over BILLION $ to Ukraine. Look after our own people first please.
More in the future??
Marles didn't even go to Kyiv to meet Zelenskyy like other Defence Ministers. Was he ashamed with the amount of aid or finding a justifiable explanation as to why our Australian Embassy has not yet reopened.
Albo admitted to 2 billion in aid to Ukraine what did we give Israel
I’m with Liz
Nyet problem Tovarisch. What's the weather like in St Petersburg Ivan?
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k. It was refreshing to finally hear someone on Sky that actually knows the background to this conflict.
BTW the weather here in Perth has been very good for late autumn Vlod.
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k Ukrainiamania is the single greatest existential threat humanity has ever faced, Antimensch.
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k
cope harder, Alex
Thank you Liz, you are 100% correct!! Stop sending our hard earned money to Ukraine. Charity starts at home!!!! What about those struggling and homeless here?????
Our housing & hospitals need $$$ too
If labor must keep spending, spend it on Australia. This incessant spending is pushing up inflation, Australians are paying a heavy price for labor’s big taxing big spending huge immigration agenda. Vote labor out at every level of govt election at every election.
What exactly do you think spending it "on Australia" will achieve? Aren't some states already claiming their doing that with ATSIC 2.0?
Wong gave 50M to Palestine. Now 100M to Ukraine. Dont have to look too hard to find issues in Australia that this money would have been better spent on. But all hail Labor and their left brain.
Marles is insane- how about yr backyard
Follow the money
Ukraine became the largest western & Nato junk weapons yard on earth & still lost miserably 🇷🇺💪✌
_"Ukraine became the largest western & Nato junk weapons yard on earth & still lost miserably"_
Did you read that in your tea leaves? If so, you should take up a new hobby. russia lost and this will become more obvious as Western production starts to ramp up to supply Ukraine.
@@jiminvernessyou right . Ukraine is advancing backwards, Russia is retreating forwards
@@karlospalacio6368 _"you right . Ukraine is advancing backwards, Russia is retreating forwards"_
You are actually correct...at least until yesterday. Ukraine was running fdesperately low on ammo, and falling back was a better option than throwing shovels and dying.
Neither Ukrainian or any European country will come to help Australia if it comes under attack.
What a load of rubbish the UK would be here in a hearbeat haven't you heard of aukus
@@markymoonshine1063 Aukus is just another lever for the US to station more weapons in the Pacific.
@@dogzdigitalMore than the US Seventh Fleet? Nonsense.
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k Ukrainiamania is the single greatest existential threat humanity has ever faced, Antimensch.
@@markymoonshine1063the UKs military couldn’t even defend Britain
What a joke.
We got people living on the street and we give them 100 million.
Did Ukraine help us financially when we had fires, floods, here in Australia???
I hope we never have to depend on our allies when we are under attack… and it will happen..,
Who is going to attack us? Where is your evidence?
@@ailouros6669well Australia is just ripe for attack. LOTS of natural resources and a small weak military.
You may remember the "Shirt front " comments of Tony Abbott. Russia had a war ship off the Australian coast lickety split.
@@DSORDR1 Australia has ALWAYS had a small military.....yet no one attacked. Your mentality is the same one the government used to justify involvement in Vietnam....'if we don't go, they'll attack us'!!!! Well, we lost that war, did we get attacked?! How people can be so easily brainwashed never ceases to astound me...
No body needs to attack Australia they already bought it with cash why would they attack something they already own ,maybe only if Australia tries to take it back without giving them a refund
Keep the money in Australia. Remove this government immediately. Walk the streets Australia needs that money. Look after Australia
NO More money to Ukraine leader !..... Most of it NOT going to Ukrainian people !
Ukraine needs peace- not money to war!
No money for a failing health system, or people, only labor would loan more money to be able to hand it to another, while we pay masses in interest on this borrowed money
Australian citizens do not support aid for war. Please change the terrorism laws to include politicians making decisions contrary to wishes of our country majority being defined as terrorists?
Stuff Ukraine, weve donated more to Zelensky's pocket for long enough! If we (Australia) need to print money to send it to Ukraine how is rhis helping us with inflation and keeping the spending by the government down!! This is just madness!!
It’s helping Zelensky buy more mansions and sniffy. And his wifey goes on lavish shopping sprees with our money as well. Not to mention the portion that gets laundered. It’s BS. Zelensky spoke about a “new Israel” recently … Yeah right 🤔
Wow, talk about poorly educated. LOL
@@cloudmountaindog8537 Another low IQ clown.
Seriously, we are living through a cost of living crisis and we sent 1billion dollars, where it cone from ? Borrowed money, remember your paying for this with higher interest rates Australia
Spend it on the Australian defence Force 🇭🇲🇭🇲🍺🍺👍👍
Listen to the lady in green she speaks the truth.
We have nothing to do with it.
Not our War.
Yes it is.
@@jiminverness Go over there and fight.
@@jiminvernessno it isn’t
It is our if you keep sending money and killing people there. Dirty like Americans
@@ailouros6669 _"Go over there and fight."_
Do you have the faintest idea why the government sends aid in the first place?
They don't want people, they want ammo.
Jo: "100 million bucks in a huge war isn't a big amount of money, but it's been a billion dollars, that's a solid amount of money "
What a stupid statement, imagine what we could do with helping homeless people in Australia with a billion dollars.
so bad ......... find a way to stop the war not fund it
This chick is a rock star!
Russia is in the right because historically Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire. If they give land rights to Aboriginals because of historical possession then the Ukraine is Russian territory. Nothing makes sense in politics...
Take 1 billion $ off our GST bill. That will help with the cost of living crisis and inflation. Even the homeless have to pay the GST TAX.
1 billion would have been better spent on the housing issues we are having, or the cost of living, or reducing unnecessary immigration issues we have been having
Australia must immediately give every ship in the navy, every plane in the airforce and every vehicle in the army to Ukraine for free.
are you serious?
You can give all your money that you have but not taxpayers $
🤡
And it won't make a difference
How much money have you given?? I bet Jack shit, go and fight for Ukraine if you care so much, last time I’ve read it was meat that Ukraine needs not money
Maybe the government diplomats should be doing their job and do diplomatic stuff ...
Not a cent from taxpayers money to ukraine money Laundry regime
Dummy
Half of that money will make its way back to Australia in brown paper bags!!
We are feeding a war, why? We give aide...
If it was just a cent, that wouldn't be so bad. We could probably afford that.
The Australian government needs to step up their game and invite an actual living not see into parliament for a thunderous round of applause like Canada.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they did.
Australians aren't as stupid as Canadians.
@@dogzdigitalNonsense.
Learn English
@@Stratigic_Cheese_Reserve The English is fine, read it out loud and it will make more sense.
Finally someone spoke the truth to the public
Nailed it.
The chick in the green is on point
But truth is not allowed on sky😮
Who cares about Ukraine
Not me!
I would love to see, Putin and zelensky sitting back relaxed having shots of vodka together in celebration. “ well comrade zelensky I knew you were one of the best comedians and really did play the role of a president twice. Comrade you fooled them well. I told you my friend that this would work to keep our big mother Russia in even higher power. We both know Ukraine will always be our brother but they don’t.” Hahahaha and now we have more weapons and more money and more power and more respect to us the leaders who keep their homelands together like us. Oh yes and remind our people that we sent as war torn migrants to holidays around the world that rebuilding of Ukraine will start soon and they will all have new cities and homes when they arrive back. So comrade it’s a checkmate from us”. Thank you Mr Putin thank you for allowing me the pleasure to play the biggest part of my career”. 😅
NEVER KNOW RIGHT?!🤷🏻♀️
These people laugh, but if war breaks out and China allies itself with Russia, then they will not be laughing when they are impoverished and at the mercy of a Chinese occupation. It is a very serious matter. These people seem to be young enough to think that the world always stays the same, and it definitely does not.
hildebrand is literally on drugs, taking head meds and has zero clue on what he’s talking about.
$100 million straight into the coffers of the US industrial complex, thats all this is, a transfer of wealth.
Maybe show the Australian people what happened to all the bushmasters that we have sent
I stand with Liz...not one cent needs to leave our shore.
It's the people's money being tranched away to a regime of highly questionable character.
This needs to stop! Stand sie by side and negotiate a peace 🤦♂️
THOUGHT WE WHERE SENDING GOODS AS IN EQUIPMENT NOT CASH??
Get your facts straight, no promise was ever made
Promise is confirmed in hundreds of US government emails. This was exposed ages ago via Freedom of Information request in the US.
We need to start spending similar amounts on our own defence.
When all the Ukranian troops are so withered. What Zelenski ask for next is Man-Power.
then you are fighting for a bit of territory whose original inhabitants have fled or permanetly abandoned
and what yr gonna get out of that.
Is undeveloped land,
and flour crop
So.
whatever.