I love it when neither James nor Zorin sugarcoat their opinions of what they cover. They give professional respect while bluntly giving their personal opinion, and I appreciate that. It honestly feels like someone being genuine is getting rarer by the year. "A chase en-poohs", okay, you got me there.
This movie basically proves that “Just because you’re allowed to do something, it doesn’t always mean you should” Then again these people also made the fucking “The Killing Tree” movie. So it all connects
EXACTLY !. But once something is public domain or once these movie writers get a ridiculous idea in their head, they're like kids in a sweet shop let loose. there's zero creativity , it's just utter chaos and mess.
@@susiehaltmann3342 They didn't even push the boat out on decent convincing pooh & Piglet costumes, it's literally 2 men with chunky rubber gloves and terrible looking mask's that a child would wear at Halloween 🤦♀️🙄.
Thank you for the very kind mention. I appreciate it. Actually the original budget was just $30k and after reshoots and post production, it was a total of around $50k. That $100k that's been reported is false.
Loved this. I was the cinematographer and had a blast working on the film. We had a tiny crew and schedule, but I did my best with the resources and time. The budget was £20k, ending up around £50k after additional shoots.
shame on you and all who worked on this turd. this was one of the most disgusting, abhorrent movies ive ever seen. it makes me think less of cinema as an art form.
@@shawndashno6022 no offense though the movie lost its direction of revenge right after the beginning and he did a good job on that I’ll give him that but the acting wasn’t the best
Gotta love the dead meat crew for supporting the ongoing strikes. Also gotta love em for being upfront with their opinions on the movie they’re covering, and the always awesome and artistic use of alliterations!
@@deathapple5608 staying quiet would be completely disrespectful to the business especially when James and Chelsea make tons of money off of other peoples art
@@dirtmcgirt24it sounds like you're trying to argue with the fact the OG comment said they're happy Dead Meat is supporting the strikes? Like can't we be happy and love that they are supporting the strikes?
Love to see the support for the writer’s strike! Thanks for the solidarity! Y’all stick to your values in a world where that’s becoming rare. Much love!
Okay but can we talk about the fact that Peter pans Neverland nightmare could be a dope movie about the children trying to escape a crazed Captain Hook just to find out pan wants to keep them there forever instead of taking them home
You don't even need to go that far. The novel heavily implies that Pan straight up murders any Lost Boy that comes close to his age, Logan's Run-style. Being chased down by a crazed Pan seems like a much more disturbing concept.
Thats the og story too, pan was never a good guy, hes a kid who never wanted to grow up and kidnapped other kids who thought the same hooks the real hero
My idea for what this movie should have been is: A grown man obsessed with Winnie the Pooh as a kid turning into a serial killer pretending to be Winnie the Pooh. He can be a funny killer with witty dialogue
I can see that happening, especially just dropping quotes from Winnie the Pooh. First one that comes to mind is he gets blood everywhere and just says “oh bother”
I thought this was going to be one of two things. Either a schizophrenic kid having various imaginary friends and occasionally those friends would 'come out to play.' Kind of like Freddy. Or two, a boy playing with some creatures in the woods, but the boys dies and his friends are hostile to anyone who isn't him.
I like the touch of the piglet mask that has tusks. It adds to the story that he went feral because that what happens to domestic pigs released into the wild!
yeah but soon after christopher robin left@@colinbaldwin313winter came and there was no food around and pooh, piglet, rabbit, owl and eeyore were about to starve to death so they did the only thing they had to do to survive they killed and at eeyore so that's why pooh and his friends went feral christopher robin abandonded them and almost let them starve to death and they had to eat eeyore to survive if christopher robin had been around none of that would have happened so it's all his fault that there like that
@LaineyBug2020 let me tell ya something my mom was and still is disgusted by piglet's appearance in this film and you think piglet's appearance in this film was bad you see what he looks like in the sequel he got even uglier
I think it's shown a few times on this show, but regardless of James's thoughts of the movie, he still gives the filmmakers the credit they deserve, even if the movies he covered he doesn't like.
That's what makes the kill counts for movies he dislikes stay enjoyable for me. So many film channels go the route of "I have to shit on things people like to show why I'm smarter than everyone" and act like their opinion is actually objective fact. On the other hand, even with absolute garbage like Thankskilling 3, James goes more for "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed". He always goes into a movie wanting to enjoy it and have a good time, rather than going in wanting to tear it down and dump on it.
The black christmas remake/reboot/whatever that was is a fantastic example, the way he handled both the very serious topics the movie is trying to tackle and how the film misses them with a constructive approach was so much more respectable than the low hanging fruit it could of been.
i agree with you@@pat2romei couldn't have gone without him doing a kill count for winnie the pooh blood and honey but i could have gone without him doing a kill count for Thankskilling & Thankskilling 3
It's incredibly funny to hear James refuse the title card part. He says it like an elementary school teacher who's mad at their students taking away snack time 😭
Fun Fact: The orignal script for this movie had stuck closer to the source material but the director were forced to make drastic changes in order to avoid legal trouble with Disney
@@arkgenesis8811 It's not a Disney character. Not anymore. That's the point. Disney only owns certain parts about winnie the pooh now (Like his red shirt for example)
@@EchoAwakens That's now how that works. I can't make Winnie the Pooh a blue bear and say, "Well Disney doesn't own him anymore, I own part of him!" No, I just stole a Disney character and made him blue. They made changes to the script because it WAS a Disney character.
That composer is too good for this movie, the part where he's waxing poetic about how fortunate he is to have this job is equal parts heartwarming and heartbreaking. I hope good things happen to that man.
The composer and the narrator are deffo too good for this trash movie, but hey i guess they were glad of the work 🤷♀lol. But my goodness this movie was dreadful🤦♀.....but interesting fact about the violin and honey merged together.
10:25 "Oh d-d-d-dear! Pooh! We were supposed to use the sledge hammer! The car was for lighting!" "Oh bother. I made a murder without you again. Well, time for some honey."
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“Covering indie movies, foreign films, etc” I love James and Chelsea coming out to directly address their support for the strike whilst protecting themselves and their contracts. Although, after the end of august, I am very excited to see the content on the horizon. I very much enjoy indie horror and think that it could be fantastic for the Dead Meat team to shed some light to projects that fly under the radar that shouldn’t. A sort of bittersweet blessing in disguise. I will say that if you choose to tackle analog horror at any point, I cannot express how much I recommend the Mandela Catalog by Alex Kister. The man is a true inspiration to the world of horror. As are you guys!
Genuinely awesome to see such vocal support for the writer strike from such a big YT channel. Yes a temporary pause on our favorite shows and movies may suck, but it’s far far more important that the talent behind those shows and movies be rewarded properly.
Mad respect for your intro and solidarity with the writers. Speaking of intro, the opening animated scene for the movie was amazing! The whole concept of a Winnie the Pooh horror had amazing potential, but the movie just ended up being a generic slasher movie.
Not for me, it wasn't! Why Winnie the Pooh? He's a good boy who wouldn't hurt a fly! Plus, he's the size of a stuffy. How the hell did he become a bulky slasher?!?! Besides, the premise makes no sense. Disney already had a movie where Christopher Robin left the wood for a long time. The Pooh crew didn't become monsters. They just got depressed! ROT IN TARTURUS, MOVIE!!!!
I'm hopeful that, if the plans for a sequel are more than a pipe dream, they learn their lesson from how this was received, and possibly go further with it, as opposed to "quickly throwing together trash to capitalize on a fleeting trend." They had lightning in a bottle, and they never figured out how to uncork it. Damn shame.
@@smartboy201 they also didnt have enough money to uncork the lightning a lot of the complaints were poor lightning and bad acting easily fixed with more munzey
I don't really see any potential in Winnie the Pooh horror movie. It's like those new grounds videos where the maker takes, IDK, Mario and just adds excessive amounts of blood, gore, swearing and sex for no reason.
Kudos for standing with the strike! There's an amazing Aussie movie that could work, the dressmaker, not horror horror but has a high body count, various deaths and a murder mystery thrown in
I literally can’t stop watching dead meat, the whole team is incredible thank you James and Chelsea and everyone else for the amazing hard work you guys put in ❤
17:00 I got a feeling the reasoning behind that is Disney might have a copyright on “Oh bother.” Even if it’s used in the original books too, there’s a chance Disney would argue “since we used it in our media, it’s still copyrighted until our Pooh enters Public domain.”
I actually think James covering alternative, foreign and Indie films sounds way better then what I expect his schedule originally was, which would encompass a bunch of big names and franchises. I think giving these lesser known movies exposure would be amazing, and there would absolutely be some diamonds he'd cover none of us even knew existed. Finally a perk to this strike.
@@blackgirlwithasthma4595 Ah thank you. 😊 I honestly cant wait for James to cover these obscure movies, us viewers will definitely find something we wanna watch ourselves.
Yeah definitely. It sucks they have to cover so much awful Netflix/streaming horror just because idiots/children demand it. There are hundreds of great movies I'd love to see them Kill Count
13:08 Hey, that's my donation on-screen! Glad to be immortalized in a Dead Meat video. Just wish it was one about a better movie. Also, you forgot to mention the part of the stream where you watched the scene front-to-back to try and parse what she was saying to accurately count the kills, only for UA-cam to flag the stream since it thought you were basically streaming the movie.
Is it really that surprising? After seeing how thoughtfully James handles sensitive and/or complex topics in his videos, my mind would be blown if he wasn't supporting the strike.
Love the Deadmeat channel and James but I hope the strikes fail, the companies go belly up and they all starved. Those writers been pumping out slop for about a decade now with the support of the Hollywood giants.
I always like the kill count videos because they are all just excellent but I had to like this one right from start because of the intro. So great to see James and Chelsea supporting writers in their strike. ❤
@@martymatic3575People's careers in movie making are at serious risk of being lost to AI, so unions are going on strike. It's really worrying to me if studios start using AIs instead of writers. The AIs don't make original works, they just copy what they're given. So if they replace writers, we can kiss any innovation in movies goodbye in exchange for an era of the same exact movies in different clothes.
No, the most terrifying thing James has ever talked about is the fact that FAMILY has gotten calls from people wanting kill counts. That's just messed up.
LOVE that you guys are speaking out about the strike. My first reaction was something along the lines of "Oh, a bunch of rich people are mad they don't make more money." Then I did a bit of research and realized quite how bad the situation was, and how few of the people affected by the strike are wealthy actors. Thank you for addressing it. Your channel is hugely popular and your message getting across to so many is crucial.
I feel like this happens a lot in art related fields, most people assume all artists are rich when they barely make a livable wage, The same thing happened with AI art, The misinformation feels almost deliberate tbh,
@@haiz768 if you're going to troll a comment section, copy/pasting the same comment everywhere makes it too obvious. You have to make it relevant to the comment you're replying to.
Solidarity, James and Chelsea! Thanks for supporting the strike and we support you in doing so! When rights aren't given, they have to be fought for, and its always great to see more folks being part of that fight!
@@partyprinceyt7528writers and actors are striking because they're afraid of being replaced by AI, and frankly, with most modern entertainment, the AI would do better.
@@partyprinceyt7528 SAG is short for SAG-AFTRA, the actor's union, who are striking alongside the WGA (the writer's union) over their increasing exploitation by CEOs - 80% of all actors can't afford health care and a lot of writers have to take a second job to pay rent. Despite this, most studios besides A24 are refusing to concede to basic demands like promising to pay on time. Its fucked up and they deserve everything they're asking for, and I'm happy James and Chelsea agree!
@@SomeDigitalGhost If you think that people deserve to starve, get sick, and be homeless over what you personally dislike - and if you think that anyone is capable of delivering good work if they're kept in the dark about whether they're going to have a job tomorrow, let alone get paid this month - then we're having entirely different conversations.
@@jakesascension4682movies take a ton of work. SAG-AFTRA isn’t just the big names, it represents a lot of background actors and small part actors too, and most of the strikes demands are about them.
@@MorriganReadsJames has said he won’t do the jeepers creepers movies because the director was a pedo… he’s ignoring all the work of all the other people on that one movie all because he “won’t support” the director 😂😂
@jakesascension4682 I've worked blue (hand hauling 400lb equipment all day, construction) and I've worked white (accounting, managing a store). White collar definitely worked me more, something I would have laughed at before working the white collar jobs. Edit: Just realized what I said could be misconstrued. This wasn't meant to say white collar is inherently harder, just that the cases I worked were.
Dead meat i love how you were able to carry us all with you towards all of your guys success and not let you get sloppy with it and how you have no hatebase cause youve been my favorite since 2018 and you have all been good people.
When this came out, I wanted to go check it out with my friends because it looked like a fun movie we could all watch together. We never ended up seeing it and after watching this video, I’m super glad that we didn’t waste money and go watch it 😂
Yeah, I basically had the same experience. Scheduling conflicts stopped me from seeing it, and then the internet indirectly told me I had dodged a bullet lol
Well, Rhys Frake-Waterfield has some movies he's making and a sequel is one of them. The others are Bambi: The Reckoning, and Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmare. That last one probably wouldn't be too far off from the kind of stuff we see in the book.
in full support of the writers right now. the fact that they were already SEVERELY underpaid before this just sickens me. movies and tv shows can’t exist without writers, and it’s so gross that the guys up top have the mentality that they do. love y’all, dead meat crew!!
@@stargirl2094 you do realize a writer will make $24,000 per movie right, thats plenty enough to support a family, a house do extra, maybe all these writers and actors shouldn't be waisting there money on shit they don't need,
Mad respect to these guys for sticking to what they believe in, I live in Texas and hear so much shit everyday from people shitting on these writers/actors
good news for you @greenboy466 they just announced today that tigger will be in the sequel they even have a picture and he looks bloody gruesome and i mean that in a good way
Quick Correction at 7:00 it’s showing Christopher’s wife burning and not him which makes sense as we see her skeleton later and I’m not blaming anybody for being confused by that
I ABSOLUTELY HATE how this childhood favorite Disney character got ruined but on the other hand I applaud the creators for working hard on it on a microbudget. 18:48 After what that hunter did to Bambi's mother and to the people who witnessed it i wouldn't be surprised that he would get revenge by becoming a murderous deer.
everyone should check out immortal masks if they get the chance! the pooh mask might not be used to great effect in this film, but they have some really cool designs if you’re into practical effects. actually, iirc, they didn’t even know their mask was in this film until the first images released.
I really appreciate the opening explanation as to where you stand with the strike and how you're proceeding and the due diligence behind it. Even if you're doing the right thing behind the scenes, it really helps to have the reasoning - for example, I wouldn't have known where fulfilling your pre-existing commitments stands.
I mean, he survived this film he survived, but I didn't say anything about the blood and honey 2. And even if he died in blood and honey 2, the credits reveal he'll be back somehow.
I liked the support for the writer strike. You guys are very nice for supporting those people. Also I can’t believe Winnie the Pooh got on this channel- I would’ve never expected that to happen-
As crazy as this sounds, this movie was still more enjoyable than almost all of the live action Disney remakes. And there are so many homages in Pooh that it serves as both a low budget and parody love letter to the genre on the whole. I think by the time Bambi and Peter Pan and Pooh 2 all come out, we will find there is an odd cult appreciation for these films.
It's crazy that this movie might get a sequel, and they might do a Bambi Horror film too haha
That sounds like fun
Hi tell it animated
And apparently "Peter Pan" as well.
Rhys said that this movie along with a sequel to Blood and Honey as well Bambi and Peter Pan is said to be SHARED universe according to Wikipedia
God, I hope not..
I love how you can tell when James is really passionate about a film vs when he’s just like “man this movie is bad” based on the tone of his voice 😂😂
Would you be supporting James if he was b!ack?? 🧐
@@haiz768
…I’m sorry, what does that have to do with anything?
@@haiz768uhhh yes ?
@@haiz768yes?
@@haiz768 you are a racist
I love it when neither James nor Zorin sugarcoat their opinions of what they cover. They give professional respect while bluntly giving their personal opinion, and I appreciate that. It honestly feels like someone being genuine is getting rarer by the year.
"A chase en-poohs", okay, you got me there.
Chelsea was also pretty… frank in her opinions on American Psycho 2 lol
Wtf I am so angenst this movie😡 ever since they announced that movie I was so piss off and nobody ask for this movie to be made🤬
U mean virtue signaling by being dishonest or showing that they have no idea what they are talking about
@@kuggacouragegx6093 You work on this shit or something?
@@Bbistheman_ what
8:34 "Oh bother, I'm covered in blood. I gotta go wash this off before Piglet finds out I've been killing without him again."
Piglet: ok where is the next vic-
Lara: *chills in the pool*
Piglet: shotgun!! *runs to pooh*
I like seeing James and Chelsea in the same video together. And it's about time someone ruined the childhood memories of Winnie-the-Pooh. Lol
Yhea. Also what childhood will be ruined next, Shrek?!?!
Of course you’re here. Nothing against u, don’t worry. It’s kinda nice seeing people like you popping up everywhere on UA-cam. Keep it up!
Well that’s true how much I really don’t like this idea ruined our childhood into a nightmares
@@seththelegoman2153they’re non-binary
NIGHTSHADOW YO WASSUP MAN! It’s me the person who replied on your post one time talking about your fav characters on Chikn Nuggit
This movie basically proves that “Just because you’re allowed to do something, it doesn’t always mean you should”
Then again these people also made the fucking “The Killing Tree” movie. So it all connects
EXACTLY !. But once something is public domain or once these movie writers get a ridiculous idea in their head, they're like kids in a sweet shop let loose. there's zero creativity , it's just utter chaos and mess.
@@gemstar7286 I mean it could’ve worked out. But it didn’t
@@susiehaltmann3342 They didn't even push the boat out on decent convincing pooh & Piglet costumes, it's literally 2 men with chunky rubber gloves and terrible looking mask's that a child would wear at Halloween 🤦♀️🙄.
It's also the exhibit A for "see guys, independent films can be cynical cash grabs too"
i think they absolutely should bad art has a right to exist and is based
Thank you for the very kind mention. I appreciate it. Actually the original budget was just $30k and after reshoots and post production, it was a total of around $50k. That $100k that's been reported is false.
I don't think "Oh Bother" is in the first book, which is the only source material that's public domain.
still. 5 mil off of 50k is crazy. no wonder they can afford a sequel
@@yaboydarrell if you can give these crappy horror movie makers anything it knowing how to cut costs
your music was AMAZING!! It made the atmosphere feel so tense and just amazing!
the music and locationing was literally the only positives to this film.
Loved this. I was the cinematographer and had a blast working on the film. We had a tiny crew and schedule, but I did my best with the resources and time. The budget was £20k, ending up around £50k after additional shoots.
Honestly for the resources and time, you did a great job!
shame on you and all who worked on this turd. this was one of the most disgusting, abhorrent movies ive ever seen. it makes me think less of cinema as an art form.
Yeah and I was the director”
@@cryptic_is_him The jokes on you dude. He actually WAS the cinematographer. 😂😂 He has quite the list of accomplishments. Look him up.
@@shawndashno6022 no offense though the movie lost its direction of revenge right after the beginning and he did a good job on that I’ll give him that but the acting wasn’t the best
Gotta love the dead meat crew for supporting the ongoing strikes.
Also gotta love em for being upfront with their opinions on the movie they’re covering, and the always awesome and artistic use of alliterations!
Did you think they were going to be against the strikes?
@@dirtmcgirt24its more that they could have stayed quiet, and its cool that they’re being so adamant and put their feelings on the front of the video
@@deathapple5608 staying quiet would be completely disrespectful to the business especially when James and Chelsea make tons of money off of other peoples art
It is awesome of them. I went on strike once
@@dirtmcgirt24it sounds like you're trying to argue with the fact the OG comment said they're happy Dead Meat is supporting the strikes? Like can't we be happy and love that they are supporting the strikes?
Love to see the support for the writer’s strike! Thanks for the solidarity! Y’all stick to your values in a world where that’s becoming rare. Much love!
Would you be supporting James if he was b!ack?? 🧐
@@haiz768what the hell does race have to do with the strikes?
Pardon the question but do you know which makes more cable or streaming service?
@@Gothicc666 Everything.
@@Gothicc666they're probably just trying to start arguments
You know you’re a BAD horror movie when James won’t even say “Title-Card!” at the title-card.
"Alright, let's do this bullshit"
"This movie fuckin sucks"
Okay but can we talk about the fact that Peter pans Neverland nightmare could be a dope movie about the children trying to escape a crazed Captain Hook just to find out pan wants to keep them there forever instead of taking them home
You don't even need to go that far. The novel heavily implies that Pan straight up murders any Lost Boy that comes close to his age, Logan's Run-style. Being chased down by a crazed Pan seems like a much more disturbing concept.
If the studio has the vertebrae to put children in danger (and possibly even kill off some of them).
They sort of did that already. The 2020 movie PAN
Thats the og story too, pan was never a good guy, hes a kid who never wanted to grow up and kidnapped other kids who thought the same hooks the real hero
do you think their going make captain hook the hero of peter pan: neverland nightmare?
My idea for what this movie should have been is:
A grown man obsessed with Winnie the Pooh as a kid turning into a serial killer pretending to be Winnie the Pooh. He can be a funny killer with witty dialogue
I can see that happening, especially just dropping quotes from Winnie the Pooh. First one that comes to mind is he gets blood everywhere and just says “oh bother”
@@outdoorscholar6016 would probably be stupid but still enjoyable. not like this garbage :p
@@outdoorscholar6016 honestly any version of this movie were they actually talk like the characters and do it constantly is 10x more enjoyable
I thought this was going to be one of two things. Either a schizophrenic kid having various imaginary friends and occasionally those friends would 'come out to play.' Kind of like Freddy. Or two, a boy playing with some creatures in the woods, but the boys dies and his friends are hostile to anyone who isn't him.
I never watched it yet but I think it should be to
I like the touch of the piglet mask that has tusks. It adds to the story that he went feral because that what happens to domestic pigs released into the wild!
That's what happens when pigs grow up, too. Isn't the conflict of this movie Christopher Robin leaving the animals after he matures?
yeah but soon after christopher robin left@@colinbaldwin313winter came and there was no food around and pooh, piglet, rabbit, owl and eeyore were about to starve to death so they did the only thing they had to do to survive they killed and at eeyore so that's why pooh and his friends went feral christopher robin abandonded them and almost let them starve to death and they had to eat eeyore to survive if christopher robin had been around none of that would have happened so it's all his fault that there like that
@@Jamie-z1j1epoor Eeyore, he just can't catch a break
Ditto!
@LaineyBug2020 let me tell ya something my mom was and still is disgusted by piglet's appearance in this film and you think piglet's appearance in this film was bad you see what he looks like in the sequel he got even uglier
I think it's shown a few times on this show, but regardless of James's thoughts of the movie, he still gives the filmmakers the credit they deserve, even if the movies he covered he doesn't like.
That's what makes the kill counts for movies he dislikes stay enjoyable for me. So many film channels go the route of "I have to shit on things people like to show why I'm smarter than everyone" and act like their opinion is actually objective fact. On the other hand, even with absolute garbage like Thankskilling 3, James goes more for "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed". He always goes into a movie wanting to enjoy it and have a good time, rather than going in wanting to tear it down and dump on it.
The black christmas remake/reboot/whatever that was is a fantastic example, the way he handled both the very serious topics the movie is trying to tackle and how the film misses them with a constructive approach was so much more respectable than the low hanging fruit it could of been.
i agree with you@@pat2romei couldn't have gone without him doing a kill count for winnie the pooh blood and honey but i could have gone without him doing a kill count for Thankskilling & Thankskilling 3
Would rather him just not cover the movies. He sounds pissy the whole time
It's incredibly funny to hear James refuse the title card part. He says it like an elementary school teacher who's mad at their students taking away snack time 😭
Fun Fact: The orignal script for this movie had stuck closer to the source material but the director were forced to make drastic changes in order to avoid legal trouble with Disney
i feel bad for him, the movie did feel clustered and rush at points and this mustve been why. screw disney
Is the dude dumb Disney wouldn't be able to do shit of I stuck to the source material because news flash the book is public domain 😂
@@rima7286 I don't see anything wrong with it tbh, they literally made a movie on a Disney character. Disney copyrighting that is fair
@@arkgenesis8811 It's not a Disney character. Not anymore. That's the point. Disney only owns certain parts about winnie the pooh now (Like his red shirt for example)
@@EchoAwakens That's now how that works. I can't make Winnie the Pooh a blue bear and say, "Well Disney doesn't own him anymore, I own part of him!"
No, I just stole a Disney character and made him blue. They made changes to the script because it WAS a Disney character.
love that y'all are working hand in hand with actors and writers to honor the strikes. fight for your rights!
That makes sense of why the movie feels rushed and the ending feels like it's not the ending
@@RubbaFrog well no, this movie just has bad writing. Has nothing to do with the strikes
@@RubbaFrogno, I think the film is just shit
@@TomWalters-ij2croh ok
😂
That composer is too good for this movie, the part where he's waxing poetic about how fortunate he is to have this job is equal parts heartwarming and heartbreaking. I hope good things happen to that man.
The composer and the narrator are deffo too good for this trash movie, but hey i guess they were glad of the work 🤷♀lol. But my goodness this movie was dreadful🤦♀.....but interesting fact about the violin and honey merged together.
you can literally feel how wasted his music was in this dumpster fire
10:25 "Oh d-d-d-dear! Pooh! We were supposed to use the sledge hammer! The car was for lighting!"
"Oh bother. I made a murder without you again. Well, time for some honey."
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My comment has nothing to do with anything in this video’s content, but I really just want to say how much this channel and the podcast helped me during the height of my postpartum depression. I’d be up long hours and all night breastfeeding my baby girl, and I was battling some major depression, and pouring all I had into being a good mom. Your content made me feel like “me” during all of that lost identity and chaotic time for me. You helped me so, so much. I just want to say thank you for doing what you guys do. ❤️
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@@CasualCat64fucking internet
NOBODY CARES DUDE
@@DastardlyDavid69 NOBODY CARES DUDE..
Dont get me wrong i love when James covers the classics, but i also love him tearing into TERRIBLE horror films 😂
2024 sequel?
it aint that bad
@@gamingsoul3044 it is
@@brianodonnell4496yeah thats official
@HorrorGameWalkthroughs What if, Tigger appears in the sequel?
“Covering indie movies, foreign films, etc”
I love James and Chelsea coming out to directly address their support for the strike whilst protecting themselves and their contracts. Although, after the end of august, I am very excited to see the content on the horizon. I very much enjoy indie horror and think that it could be fantastic for the Dead Meat team to shed some light to projects that fly under the radar that shouldn’t.
A sort of bittersweet blessing in disguise.
I will say that if you choose to tackle analog horror at any point, I cannot express how much I recommend the Mandela Catalog by Alex Kister. The man is a true inspiration to the world of horror. As are you guys!
I wish it didn't take them a strike to review foreign films. There's a lot of really cool ones that deserve a spotlight!
that mandela catalogue bit did NOT age well
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How so?
@@dylansharp8471 i made that comment when Alex Kister was under fire for grooming allegations
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For people wondering what each kill takes place:
1. Mary: 6:32
2. Tina: 8:24
3. Lara: 10:21
4. Zoe: 11:30
5. Charlene: 13:40
6. Piglet (Killer): 13:56
7. Alice: 14:01
8. Colt: 15:00
9. Tucker: 15:10
10. Logan: 15:23
11. John: 15:28
12. Jessica: 15:52
13. Maria: 17:18
Genuinely awesome to see such vocal support for the writer strike from such a big YT channel. Yes a temporary pause on our favorite shows and movies may suck, but it’s far far more important that the talent behind those shows and movies be rewarded properly.
They are acting -_- lol literally fake
@@jakesascension4682wait, acting is fake? I always thought all the people being killed in slashers were real 😮
@@jakesascension4682this makes zero sense
@@jakesascension4682who are you talking to
@@jakesascension4682 No?!
Mad respect for your intro and solidarity with the writers.
Speaking of intro, the opening animated scene for the movie was amazing! The whole concept of a Winnie the Pooh horror had amazing potential, but the movie just ended up being a generic slasher movie.
Not for me, it wasn't! Why Winnie the Pooh? He's a good boy who wouldn't hurt a fly! Plus, he's the size of a stuffy. How the hell did he become a bulky slasher?!?! Besides, the premise makes no sense. Disney already had a movie where Christopher Robin left the wood for a long time. The Pooh crew didn't become monsters. They just got depressed! ROT IN TARTURUS, MOVIE!!!!
I'm hopeful that, if the plans for a sequel are more than a pipe dream, they learn their lesson from how this was received, and possibly go further with it, as opposed to "quickly throwing together trash to capitalize on a fleeting trend."
They had lightning in a bottle, and they never figured out how to uncork it. Damn shame.
@@smartboy201 they also didnt have enough money to uncork the lightning a lot of the complaints were poor lightning and bad acting easily fixed with more munzey
I don't really see any potential in Winnie the Pooh horror movie. It's like those new grounds videos where the maker takes, IDK, Mario and just adds excessive amounts of blood, gore, swearing and sex for no reason.
No it wasn't, it looked like shit. Stop giving credit to bad material
Kudos for standing with the strike! There's an amazing Aussie movie that could work, the dressmaker, not horror horror but has a high body count, various deaths and a murder mystery thrown in
Mary 6:31
Tina 8:24
Lara 10:21
Zoe 11:30
Charlene 13:41
Piglet Appears In Part 2 So He Isn’t Dead. Alice(Golden Chainsaw)14:01
Colt 15:00
Tucker 15:10
Logan 15:23
John(Dull Machete)15:27
Jessica 15:52
Maria 17:17
Flossing Pooh 9:25
Piglets not a girl
I literally can’t stop watching dead meat, the whole team is incredible thank you James and Chelsea and everyone else for the amazing hard work you guys put in ❤
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17:00 I got a feeling the reasoning behind that is Disney might have a copyright on “Oh bother.” Even if it’s used in the original books too, there’s a chance Disney would argue “since we used it in our media, it’s still copyrighted until our Pooh enters Public domain.”
Theyre pooh will never enter public domain
spoiler alert: pooh did end up saying oh bother in the sequel before christopher robin put an axe through pooh's skull
@@Jamie-z1j1e I saw a clip of that online funny enough. Made me chuckle hard lol.
take about a splitting headache@@TheJthedog🤣
I actually think James covering alternative, foreign and Indie films sounds way better then what I expect his schedule originally was, which would encompass a bunch of big names and franchises. I think giving these lesser known movies exposure would be amazing, and there would absolutely be some diamonds he'd cover none of us even knew existed. Finally a perk to this strike.
Omg this is such a great way to think about it and I agree! I always watch lesser known movies from different platforms(or in general)😄
@@blackgirlwithasthma4595 Ah thank you. 😊 I honestly cant wait for James to cover these obscure movies, us viewers will definitely find something we wanna watch ourselves.
Is there a way to tell him to cover the feast movies
Indie slashers are some of the best things ever!
Yeah definitely. It sucks they have to cover so much awful Netflix/streaming horror just because idiots/children demand it. There are hundreds of great movies I'd love to see them Kill Count
You know James doesn’t like a movie when he doesn’t say his iconic “TITLE CARD!”
Because the movie is bad
When rights are not given, they have to be fought for. Very well said.
That sponsor segment has me smiling ear to ear. And despite James not liking the movie, this kill count is excellent as always.
Tell me about it. I was happy about this video not because of the movie of course, but I wanted to hear James' opinion on this actual ear infection.
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13:08 Hey, that's my donation on-screen! Glad to be immortalized in a Dead Meat video. Just wish it was one about a better movie.
Also, you forgot to mention the part of the stream where you watched the scene front-to-back to try and parse what she was saying to accurately count the kills, only for UA-cam to flag the stream since it thought you were basically streaming the movie.
4:26
what i imagine
“hello, who is this?”
“do a kill count for orphan:first kill”
*other person hangs up*
“that was weird”
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@ 9 people who liked my comment seemed to care
Love that deadmeat is supporting the strike. You guys are awesome.
Not me opening up UA-cam and seeing this.
My mind was blown.
Is it really that surprising? After seeing how thoughtfully James handles sensitive and/or complex topics in his videos, my mind would be blown if he wasn't supporting the strike.
@@pat2rome it's not that it's surprising it's just great to see amazing people supporting good causes in general
Love the Deadmeat channel and James but I hope the strikes fail, the companies go belly up and they all starved. Those writers been pumping out slop for about a decade now with the support of the Hollywood giants.
@@dean_l33 You say you love the channel but somehow haven't realized that crappy movies have existed for more than ten years?
Its been 10x worse the past 10 years.
I always like the kill count videos because they are all just excellent but I had to like this one right from start because of the intro. So great to see James and Chelsea supporting writers in their strike. ❤
why
@@martymatic3575People's careers in movie making are at serious risk of being lost to AI, so unions are going on strike.
It's really worrying to me if studios start using AIs instead of writers. The AIs don't make original works, they just copy what they're given. So if they replace writers, we can kiss any innovation in movies goodbye in exchange for an era of the same exact movies in different clothes.
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Fun Fact, Jim Cummings (the current voice of Pooh and Tigger) said the very existence of this movie was “disgusting” 🤣😂
Hah!
Didn't he threaten to sue these guys if they tried imitating his Pooh voice?
Only because the movie is so bad, I can't say I blame him. Be different if it were good but uh.... Yeah no
Okay. That's funny
@@ForrestFox626that very douchey. i wondered why pooh didnt talk at all in the movie and this mustve been why.
No, the most terrifying thing James has ever talked about is the fact that FAMILY has gotten calls from people wanting kill counts. That's just messed up.
LOVE that you guys are speaking out about the strike. My first reaction was something along the lines of "Oh, a bunch of rich people are mad they don't make more money." Then I did a bit of research and realized quite how bad the situation was, and how few of the people affected by the strike are wealthy actors. Thank you for addressing it. Your channel is hugely popular and your message getting across to so many is crucial.
Would you be supporting James if he was b!ack?? 🧐
I feel like this happens a lot in art related fields, most people assume all artists are rich when they barely make a livable wage,
The same thing happened with AI art,
The misinformation feels almost deliberate tbh,
@@haiz768 ?
@@haiz768 if you're going to troll a comment section, copy/pasting the same comment everywhere makes it too obvious. You have to make it relevant to the comment you're replying to.
@@haiz768what is your issue? Would you???
Its great to see a big figure in the movie scene supporting the writers in the SAG strike. Thanks James and Chelsea!
Solidarity, James and Chelsea! Thanks for supporting the strike and we support you in doing so! When rights aren't given, they have to be fought for, and its always great to see more folks being part of that fight!
Meanwhile the average American is struggling to survive and not a peep out of you or any of the people striking
Hii may I ask what is the Sag Strike?
@@partyprinceyt7528writers and actors are striking because they're afraid of being replaced by AI, and frankly, with most modern entertainment, the AI would do better.
@@partyprinceyt7528 SAG is short for SAG-AFTRA, the actor's union, who are striking alongside the WGA (the writer's union) over their increasing exploitation by CEOs - 80% of all actors can't afford health care and a lot of writers have to take a second job to pay rent. Despite this, most studios besides A24 are refusing to concede to basic demands like promising to pay on time. Its fucked up and they deserve everything they're asking for, and I'm happy James and Chelsea agree!
@@SomeDigitalGhost If you think that people deserve to starve, get sick, and be homeless over what you personally dislike - and if you think that anyone is capable of delivering good work if they're kept in the dark about whether they're going to have a job tomorrow, let alone get paid this month - then we're having entirely different conversations.
I actually stumbled across this being filmed in Ashdown forest in April 2022… all I can say is thank god for cam-rips.
Don't remember you
ashdown forest and the weird thing is, is that the town in winnie the pooh: blood and honey 2 is called ashtown
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It'd be great to see obscure foreign horror highlighted. There's some pretty intense virtually unknown stuff that deserves more love
James gives the best sponsor announcements I’ve ever seen, never ceases to deliver. I watch every one through cause they’re always interesting
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As a blue collar boy, i dont know much about the movie unions, but i respect anyone supporting a strike for the rights workers deserve
I wouldn't call them workers though you are blue collor you understand "work"
@@jakesascension4682movies take a ton of work. SAG-AFTRA isn’t just the big names, it represents a lot of background actors and small part actors too, and most of the strikes demands are about them.
@@MorriganReadsJames has said he won’t do the jeepers creepers movies because the director was a pedo… he’s ignoring all the work of all the other people on that one movie all because he “won’t support” the director 😂😂
@@jakesascension4682 how are writers not workers are you slow??
@jakesascension4682 I've worked blue (hand hauling 400lb equipment all day, construction) and I've worked white (accounting, managing a store). White collar definitely worked me more, something I would have laughed at before working the white collar jobs.
Edit: Just realized what I said could be misconstrued. This wasn't meant to say white collar is inherently harder, just that the cases I worked were.
Dead meat i love how you were able to carry us all with you towards all of your guys success and not let you get sloppy with it and how you have no hatebase cause youve been my favorite since 2018 and you have all been good people.
the intro gave me chills...it's so amazing seeing you guys stand in solidarity with the strike!
When this came out, I wanted to go check it out with my friends because it looked like a fun movie we could all watch together. We never ended up seeing it and after watching this video, I’m super glad that we didn’t waste money and go watch it 😂
Same
Yeah, I basically had the same experience. Scheduling conflicts stopped me from seeing it, and then the internet indirectly told me I had dodged a bullet lol
I rented this movie on here to watch with cousins and let me tell you, it was shit. I regret it, could’ve gotten John Wick instead 😂
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@@BonnieEatabrooks that’s funny
James refusing to say Title Card is one of the most unironically funniest things to me. Not even Jaws 4 could manage to do that
6:30 I really like that “AWWWW PIGGED” line as well as the “Business!” line too. It would be nice if there’s an “AWWW PIGGED” supercuts later
I want a sequel only so we can get more of James’ Pooh puns.
I’m going to watch it after I get revived
Well, Rhys Frake-Waterfield has some movies he's making and a sequel is one of them. The others are Bambi: The Reckoning, and Peter Pan's Neverland Nightmare. That last one probably wouldn't be too far off from the kind of stuff we see in the book.
in full support of the writers right now. the fact that they were already SEVERELY underpaid before this just sickens me. movies and tv shows can’t exist without writers, and it’s so gross that the guys up top have the mentality that they do. love y’all, dead meat crew!!
That's absolutely bull shit, me and my family are able to pay Internet, power, food and heat with just 500$ per month, writers make far more then that
@@AnthonyLank-ry3kd where the hell do u live
@@stargirl2094 Maine
@@AnthonyLank-ry3kd not every writer can just up and move to maine unfortunately, not to mention the cost alone of moving/travel/etc
@@stargirl2094 you do realize a writer will make $24,000 per movie right, thats plenty enough to support a family, a house do extra, maybe all these writers and actors shouldn't be waisting there money on shit they don't need,
I love how James always reminds us to be good people 😇😀
I agree with you @arunsk9487
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@@KatsukiBakugouFan13 It was amazing and I saw Pooh’s house Piglet’s house Owl’s house and Eeyore’s house and A.A. Milne and E.H. Shepherd’s grave
Except unlike Ellen DeGeneres he actually practices what he preaches.
@@TrainsCatsOtherStories I agree
14:58 "Oh bother...... does somebody need a pot of ass whoopin?"
6:27 As someone who was introduced to Dead Meat through the Saw kill counts, that brings back some serious nostalgia xD
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I love how creative you've been with presenting the sponsors of your Kill Counts lately. Makes the experience even more entertaining.
Yeah, they're all written by Brand Manager Ben Bellevue and he knocks em out of the park. Wait for The Meg's!
@@DeadMeat
can’t wait for that
@@DeadMeatDid you just say The Meg?!?!?
I have Ad block 👍
@@mr.fahrenheit7009 uh... ok?? This is talking about sponsorships, not ads
15:03 bro really said why die when you could traumatize children
13:00 Hearing his frustration brought a chuckle out of me.
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Mad respect to these guys for sticking to what they believe in, I live in Texas and hear so much shit everyday from people shitting on these writers/actors
Would you be supporting James if he was b!ack?? 🧐
@@haiz768what
@@haiz768 What
@@haiz768 What
That didnt go as well as your brain thought did it? 🤣🤣🤣
15:34 that “HOLY FACK” was the best acting in this movie
15:18
15:18
James and Chelsea thank you for supporting the strikes, This is why us dead meat fans love you both so much.
I at least hope in the sequel they have tigger. Imagine a death scene where tigger bounces on someone with his tale. That would be so cool
good news for you @greenboy466 they just announced today that tigger will be in the sequel they even have a picture and he looks bloody gruesome and i mean that in a good way
Seeing as he's a tiger, he'd have to be the best killer of the bunch.
Knowing how much this channel already supported writers and actors it was no surprise they fully support the strikes! Stay strong everyone
Quick Correction at 7:00 it’s showing Christopher’s wife burning and not him which makes sense as we see her skeleton later and I’m not blaming anybody for being confused by that
The kill count we didn’t know we wanted, but we all needed deep down.
Exactly.
Fr cause I was not about to watch this shit😭
Your channel is amazing. Your talk about scary movies is mathematically, outstanding, and I always love Winnie the Pooh as my childhood.
James recreating the rabbit hole story for the numbers is better than everything in this movie.
Aww James reading to the plushies was so cute. And thank you for showing your support!
James tearing into terrible horrible films is golden 😭😭 from the intro you could already Tell “ah Shit this won’t be fun”
14:00 "FOR PIGLET!!!!!!!!!!!"
spoiler alert: piglet gets his head blown off in the sequel
@@Jamie-z1j1ehow do u know?
And plus it's an early death
I ABSOLUTELY HATE how this childhood favorite Disney character got ruined but on the other hand I applaud the creators for working hard on it on a microbudget.
18:48 After what that hunter did to Bambi's mother and to the people who witnessed it i wouldn't be surprised that he would get revenge by becoming a murderous deer.
I wonder what bambi will look like it will probably just look like a normal meat eating deer with just a scarier face
I respect your guys' decision to support the SAG-AFTRA strikes and still deliver on your amazing content, thanks Dead Meat!
You guys are the definition of classy and great.
I bet you wouldn’t be saying that if they were b!ack?? 🤔🤔
@@haiz768 what? Of course I would?
@@haiz768 What a weird thing to say
Ignore hexmommymilkers. They're a bot
@@jayharv285 Stop spreading misinformation.
I honestly hope James or Zoran do a kill count for The Mean One. Since that horror movie is much better than Blood and Honey.
everyone should check out immortal masks if they get the chance! the pooh mask might not be used to great effect in this film, but they have some really cool designs if you’re into practical effects. actually, iirc, they didn’t even know their mask was in this film until the first images released.
Watching this entire kill count wearing a Pooh mask and holding a "union" poster over breakfast like Sally goddamn Field. Y'all rock.
The honey pots blocking her chest had me dying lol 😂😂😂
Lets take a moment to acknowledge how HARD the soundtrack hits in this movie at times, despite the movie itself being...You know
honestly the fact this movie made so much money makes me happy for the cast and crew, they seemed to have fun
James reading a sponsor book segment to a bunch of plushie is just the funniest thing to me.
Would have been better if Zoran was there acting like a little kid
"That's right, Ditto." Will never not warm my heart
You know its a bad movie when James doesn’t give us a “TITLE CARD!!”
Heck, even Thankskilling 3 got one no matter how unenthusiastic it is
8:50 okay James with the fire alliteration and wordplay🔥🔥🔥🔥
Imagine the bloopers of him saying that
12:18 Danny-Elfman-Danny-Elfman-it-just-sounds-like-Danny-Elfman
I really appreciate the opening explanation as to where you stand with the strike and how you're proceeding and the due diligence behind it. Even if you're doing the right thing behind the scenes, it really helps to have the reasoning - for example, I wouldn't have known where fulfilling your pre-existing commitments stands.
Massive respect for standing with the writers strike, as if Dead Meat needed any more of my respect after all theyve done.
13:55 so... bad news, but from the information spread about blood and honey 2, piglet survives.
yeah but then he gets his head blown off
I mean, he survived this film he survived, but I didn't say anything about the blood and honey 2. And even if he died in blood and honey 2, the credits reveal he'll be back somehow.
15:19 appropriate reaction to tuckers brutal death
Appreciate that you guys are supporting the strike❤
8:17 the pooh puns never stop lmaooo love it
DEATH SET LIST KILL COUNT: WINNIE THE POOH: BLOOD AND HONEY (2023)
06:31 #1.MARY
08:24 #2.TINA
10:21 #3.LARA
11:29 #4.ZOE
13:39 #5.CHARLENE
13:55 #6.PIGLET
14:01 #7.ALICE
15:00 #8.COLT/15:09 #9.TUCKER
15:23 #10.LOGAN/ 15:28 #11.JOHN
15:52 #12.JESSICA
17:17 #13.MARIA
17:44 IN THE END
THE NUMBERS RESULT
RED WOMEN: 8️⃣
BLUE MAN: 4️⃣
PINK PIGLET: 1️⃣
TOTAL: 1️⃣3️⃣
RANTIME: 8️⃣4️⃣ MINUTES = 1️⃣3️⃣ KILLS
ONE KILL EVERY: 6️⃣.4️⃣6️⃣ MINUTES
17:43 I GYAT something in my eye.
Also the kill at 16:00 is recreating the scene from Texas chainsaw massacre remake.
It’s not a remake
3:30 I love the little displacer beast plush during the sponsorship segment!!!
17:48 What are you doing stepbro
Honestly super excited to hear that more indies and foreign productions will be covered, even if it wasn't in the context of supporting the strike.
14:08 La la la-la la la la, a little bit Alexis
Hide your diamonds, hide your exes, I'm a little bit Alexis
I liked the support for the writer strike. You guys are very nice for supporting those people. Also I can’t believe Winnie the Pooh got on this channel- I would’ve never expected that to happen-
As crazy as this sounds, this movie was still more enjoyable than almost all of the live action Disney remakes. And there are so many homages in Pooh that it serves as both a low budget and parody love letter to the genre on the whole.
I think by the time Bambi and Peter Pan and Pooh 2 all come out, we will find there is an odd cult appreciation for these films.
God I hope not