Here's a lowkey one: When blurbs on the front or back are for a completely different book by the author. Or completely replace any summary on the back.
"from the author of the hit series, about the boy chasing a girl through a forest of magical land, and defied all odds"... Okaaay but what is THIS series about??
@Esmeralda in Paris that is kinda sad considering the authour probably doesn't have any say in that either :( I hate any kind of blurb in the front cover too, I want the title and name of the author there, not a quote and name of another random maybe more famous author
I found this with the WoT series, all the mass market paperbacks have the little blurb about the Wheel turning, but nothing about the specific book, which is annoying considering there are so many, and most of their titles (excluding the first two) don’t have much to do with the plot of each book
When the back has a review instead of a blurb. Ebooks do this a lot, too. Tell me what the book is about, not why a journalist thinks you're a talented writer.
@@grace4683 if/when my books get published, I hope they never have back covers with reviews rather than blurbs. I also hope that's something authors get a say over.
The sticker thing drives me INSANE! We've vowed to never do that to our books, authors, and readers! Also, the special edition thing is tricky! I see it from both sides. It's hard to solve that one 😬
another title trend i hate is "the profession's relation", e.g. the alchemist's daughter, The Captain's Daughter, The Poacher's Son, the bookbinder's daughter and so on and on, there's SO MANY of them
hm funny how it’s mostly female relations that are labelled that way. i wonder if a book is titled “the alchemist” or “the pirate” or “the captain” and people would visualise a female character instead of a male character?
About those short covers- is this some sort of attempt at being seductive? Like if a person were to slowly slip a bit of clothing off? The book is like, “ooOoOh! Look at my beautiful, sexy pages! You know you want to read me!” It’s weird. I hate it.
Actually I love pocket books! Pocket editions are very common in the UK, for instance, and living in a European city I go about in public transportation a lot and don't even own a car. Pocket books are perfect to carry with me in a small bag whereas those bigger editions are just to heavy and don't fit anywhere... And I love reading on the subway!
I bought the Mistoborn trilogy as a pocket edition boxed set. Honestly, I did it because it was cheaper. That's usually the way I choose my books. I can't always afford hard covers and regular paperbacks are almost as expensive. Whenever there's a pocket edition available, I'll buy it, because it saves me money and at the end of the day I'm reading the exact same book, just not as "big" and "pretty". Maybe it's because I'm not a purist, but as long as I'm reading a physical copy (cause I'm not a fan of e-books) I'm happy!
I'm the exact same way! Whatever is the cheapest version is the version I buy just cause that's what my budget can afford. I can totally understand why the mix and match look on a shelf would bother some people though. Fortunately it doesn't bug me. Gives me "overcrowded used book store" vibes and I love it.
Yep, I completely get that. That's why a lot of my series are mix/matched. I have hardcovers for half the series, then paperback with the others because I just go for cheaper options. Bargain sites, thrift stores, I'm not picky at all. It's nice to have a matching series but honestly, I just wanna read the books, I don't care about how they look unless it's a serious I ADORE then I sometimes let myself get it if I have the money to
I usually buy the pocket but sometimes I'm so willing to get the last one of a thrilogy or similar then I may buy the big one because I don't want to wait until the pocket version of it. 😅
I also like the pocket versions more because I can travel with them. And it's not the same with an ebook for me. And because the space at my appartment. I'd love to have a bookshelf like yours but then we couldn't be in that room at the same time.🥲
Oh and one more thing! I read a lot of translated books. We need a law that makes sure publishers translate the whole Trilogy ect and don't stop publishing at Vol. 2. 😢😖
I hate the stickers!!! All the stickers! First of all the ones printed on the cover, i will not buy the book, like not a chance in hell. The actual stickers sometimes are a pleasure to remove, but some of them are the paper stickers....and they never come off properly, you need a blow dryer or glue removal. I just hate stickers! I agree with you on everything, maybe not on pocketbooks, because at the end of the day you can use the same argument against any special edition, they are all a cash grab and meant to attract more people into buying them. Unlike special editions, pocketbooks are actually useful as they are so small you can carry them in a pocket.
Yes! If I’m going to buy the book I’m also spending the money on having a beautiful cover design that I want to look at. If they’re going to ruin it with a permanent sticker than I will not offer them my money.
Pocket books are a huge market in France and a plus for people who doesn't have space and have a little buget too. And they are really easy to grab on a trip or when you are outside and you don't want to bring the big seize. I love to take (sometimes) the pocket version when I have a little purse and I want to read in the public transportation or at the beach.
I LOVE pocket books, it’s definitely a space issue and I wish there was a way to be able to order a mini book version of any book, not just some Uber popular ones we already have a billion versions of. Great video!
Now I really want a book actually titled "A blank of blank and blank" 😂 Oh, and we need less covers with the "girl in big dress walking away from the camera" But we need more sprayed edges ❤️
The not big enough covers on paperbacks are usually called stepbacks and they were and I think still somewhat are a fairly popular thing in romance novels, especially the trade paperback kind. I am not as well versed as to why they came into popularity but for the most part, the stepback used to showcase the full cover artwork on the inside, without the text and titles. Personally I really enjoy those artwork stepbacks but now the more common kind is just having testimonials of the book being displayed and I absolutely hate that!! Like, publishers should not make stepbacks just because. At least have something interesting on the inside, I don't care what the New York Times has said about the book. They're not the reason I am going to pick the book up!
Yesss and when you can’t quite tell if a book is a sequel or not bc it says “from the author of XYZ” but it’s not obvious that you have to read XYZ first 😂
@@baticeer_ Oh god yes. Or that awkward moment in the bookstore where you need to look things up on your phone and you're just standing there looking at your phone for ages and people wonder why you're even there. Oof.
Pocket sized books: I'm for them because I can stick them in my pocket comfortably. The snobbery regarding the Self pub vs trad pub is not just about readers, but also writers. A good number of writers will not pick up a book if they find out it's been self published. I would say it's a small number of people, but my interactions tell me otherwise, and there are great books out there that were self published.
In Japan, books are pretty much all ‘mini’ sized paperbacks, and thats, of course, because of lack of space and a care for environment, and also probably because miniature/mono stuff is kind of their aesthetic/whats they’re used to. I remember seeing this girl in a train in Japan reading a book while standing. She was holding it with one hand - smol paperback with removed cover jacket - and she flipped the page with her thumb, of the same hand she held the book with, no sweat. Anyway, I think if not only ‘popular’ books would be part of the ‘mini’ trend, but all books would get this treatment, it would be nice. Thats not the case in most countries tho.
My favorite thing about the "Noun of Noun and Noun" or "Noun of Noun" title is the gameshow Um, Actually. It's all about nerdy stuff, and they sometimes do a game where they mix up all the nouns of 6 different books titles and the players have to try to create the correct book titles. It is one of my obsessions currently and is one of the best things on UA-cam. I suggest all nerds check it out, no matter what you are nerdy about 😊
I totally do the same with waiting for the subsequent books in special editions to be announced before buying the first one. I really want them to match 🤣🧡
I'm noticing a lot of book titles along the trend of "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo", so for example you might have "The Nine Chalices of Wizard Tod" or whatever, and it makes it incredibly difficult to remember any one individual title. Like, I know for sure there's another "The Seven ____ of_____" something book that came out in the last few years, but can't for the life of me remember it right now.
Exactly. And Usually only the first book of a series will be published in collector's editions. Idk why, if I'm a collector, I'll get the whole series in collector's edition.
The idea I see it for special editions is that it's nice to have a good looking edition of a single book, but it's not to own the complete collection. I, the ever zealous completist, find this very difficult to say. However, you likely already own a collection, the special edition is more like a memento of that story than the story itself. If they release the rest in the series, that's just a bonus.
3 other peeves: when ebook covers switch (at least give me a choice!) and hardbacks that don’t have a dust jacket. Most hardbacks have them, but some don’t and I really with they would. 3 - when there’s different covers for UK editions that are so much cooler than the US cover. I can think of so many versions I would buy if they were available in the US.
I'm raging each time when the same publisher doesn't keep the same size of books in the book series... I have trilogies where one book sticks out or a series of 6 books where second to last sticks out. WHY????!!! I would understand if it was a different publisher but this? The recent that got me in a twist was the size of The Hunger of the Gods by J.Gwynne. Orbit has always been keeping series the same size but for whatever reason HoG BARELY fits in a shelf and is humongous compared to Shadow of the Gods. Another one of mine is the stiff paperback issue...it's so incredibly difficult to read when you don't want to break the spine! More often than not I get cramps in my wrists as I'm trying to read these. The third annoyance that I have is when I see bookstores full of people around Xmas time and during the rest of the year, they're empty. It makes me so angry. As if books were only convenient when you don't know what to give to people. Books should not be treated as a last resort. It's upsetting.
Oh my goodness the rage that builds up if I think out those step back covers on paperbacks. If I am on the fence about buying a book and then I take it out and it has THAT for a cover I will put the book back so fast
The Lunar Chronicles new paperbacks have a stepback aka an illustration inside and they are beautiful! Stepbacks are very common in romance mass market editions, that little cut is to indicate it. I wish more editions of tall paperbacks had it :)
I’m the same with special editions, I will wait until all of them are out! I don’t like mixing and matching them if they only do the first one. There are some series where I see how it would make sense to just do the first book because it is vastly more popular, but it still irks me. I’m a big Anne of Green Gables fan and so many publishers put out beautiful editions of the first one but then none of the others. Ugh! I also struggle when I discover a beautiful edition too late and the box set is already sold out, and not all of the books are still available! I currently have that problem with a super pretty Anne edition of Tundra Books that I recently discovered, but the only books I managed to find so far are 1,2,3, - 5&8! So weird, especially since books 4,6,7 are hard to find/sold out in other editions as well. I am rambling now so I’ll stop haha, but this really is a pet peeve of mine.
I too am an AOGG collector - there's that beautiful hardcover set where it all makes one textual image and yet its only the first 5 books, terribly annoying
As a comics mostly reader, variable transparency on whether a new run or a new book is meant to be an ongoing or if it’s designed as a miniseries. Yes, they do kind of need to see how a book does but at the same time if a book is intended to be only 4-6 issues or 12 issues regardless of sales or popularity can they just be upfront about it. Also, it’s totally fine if a trade paperback or hardcover is the first way a comic gets published as floppies get inconvenient over time.
As a book lover/collector I completely agree with you on special edition series! As someone who works in publishing, I also understand that it is incredibly difficult to find a solution because sales do play a huge part otherwise you run the risk of being wasteful in both cost and stock.
As a not-natural-bookworm but one who actively tries really hard to get through books..I find the titles with "blank of blank and blank" to be a horrible turn off. It makes me assume that its going to be garbage. I have caved and read a few of those titles but most of the time my intuition is right.
Yes, all of these. Especially the sticker thing that you can't remove gets in my crawl and I won't buy a book based on it. And the misaligned spine..... ughhhhh. I also wait on all of the special editions before buying. I feel so seen LOL. Thanks for this video.
I have the hobbit and LOTR in the hardback pocket edition set. I ordered them not realizing that they were pocket-size, but the price was good for the whole set. They are well-made books and the dust jackets have Tolkien's art design. The size does have its pros and cons. The print is a bit small, but they are easy to carry in a jacket pocket or purse.
One book trend I hate above all others is a character-cried-wolf scenario when they actually saw what happened yet none believe. Thrilled as I was to see the "Fear Street Relaunch" series hit the shelves, I was irritated to no end by "Don't Stay Up Late" and ranted about it on my BookTube channel.
I’ll be honest, I don’t pick up books with A Thing of Blank and Blank titles anymore. Most of the time I don’t even look at the synopsis because the titles annoy me so much. I know how petty that must sound
omg i agree with the special edition one like the fist book in dune has so many special editions but not the other ones.. like i get it, its 6 books but theres SO MANY first editions one of them couldve done the rest too
I have several. The dust jacket being one of them. I understand that it's meant to protect the book, but when it slides around all over the place when I'm trying to read the book, I can't stand that. I usually end up removing the dust jacket when I go to read the book. Then there's my bookshelf itself. Ask before you touch, return the book to the shelf you found it on, and if you put it back upside down, on it's side, or backwards with the pages sticking out, you can leave my house and never come back.
You know, I’ve always assumed that it’s standard to only keep the dust jackets on while the books aren’t in use. I figured that was the point, so they’re protected when set aside. Is that not the case?
I specifically decided to get the pocket editions of LOTR + the Hobbit that you pictured in the vid cause of their small form factor. Got the 4 books for around $25, and small enough to fit in my jacket pocket. I wish pocket books were as popular as in Japan so that I can buy more series and leave my ebook at home.
I like the mini copies of books for travel. If I want to read a book on a plane or at a beach I can bring more mini books than I would be able to with a full size paperback.
The dust jacket thing happened to me with Amari and the Night Brothers and I have considered sneakily swapping it for a different one in Barnes and Noble very many times lol.
Are pocket books just the same as the mass paperback books? If so, they aren't my favorite things, but some older (and not so old, but not popular) books are so hard to find in hardcover and/or in paperback. So sometimes I just have to settle. Plus my local used book store resales them for $1, so I can't really complain when I'm running on a low budget sometimes.
I can relate with the book covers pet peeve. For example, I bought the netflix six of crows edition of the book because I loved it and really wanted to read, but I want the covers to match if I buy the rest. The first shadow and bone cover does, but will they make matching covers for the rest of the series? Also, if there are sets for different books that go together, I wish you can buy each book individually if you do not want to buy the whole set especially since they are so expensive. But that is a me thing, mostly. Stickers never bothered me because I am so used to them, but as I got older, i have a small hate for the permanent stickers because they cover the author’s name or are slab dab in the middle of the cover at times. I do not want to focus on the sticker. Bar codes on top of the summary on the back of the book annoy me so much because they interfere with how you get interested in the book or film.
Honestly, pocket books are cheaper in my experience, if you buy the whole serie at once. They look a bit weird on my shelf, but it's sometimes worth it to me.
i actually really like the "a ___ of ___ & ____" title trend. every time someone tells me "ughhh these titles again, so dumb right!?" i just have to smile and nod because everyone seems to feel so strongly about them and i feel like a silly tumblr girl or something for liking them so much hahaha i can see how they'd be repetitive though
Chuckle, I found myself agreeing with all your points. I do think self-publishing is turning a corner and we are seeing more authors turning to it as a way forward.. Not interested in pocket books or trade paperbacks.
I've been watching a lot of these Bookish pet peeves and almost everyone mentions the Special Editing thing. A friend who has a bookshelf full of first editions that were never expanded, she says that if everybody stops none might be finish but hopes that they will all eventually be expanded.
I do adore pocket books because they are perfect for traveling. With paperbacks I really dislike breaking the spine but I don't want to travel with my hardback. I once ordered on by accident by John Scalzi and was moping after I found out only the first book in the trilogy got published as a pocket book. Pet peeve of mine is when I do order a paperback I always seem to get the wrong dimensions. Why isn't there a standard size? Becky Chambers, a long way to an angry planet series, have all different dimensions and it drives me bonkers...
I bought the leatherbound version of LOTR when the movie came out. To spend any less would have meant to be stuck with modern actors' faces on the cover of a timeless book. If they had done that for Narnia during the 8's BBC movies they would have made it dated and silly once the newer movies were made. Given most books are superior than movies (especially in the eyes of readers) than the movies adaptations don't offend readers hoping to suck in moviegoers. The numbers are against you. Also, I got the Eye Of The World SE and loved it with it's attached bookmark. It's sad that the rest couldn't be purchased that way given none of the Wheel of Time books are under 600 pages.
By pocket books do you mean mass market paperback as well? Some books I've purchased are only available in this style, and it's a little irritating as I prefer trade paperback over any style.
I completely agree about the first book getting a special edition! I’m not buying the new illustrated edition of the last wish because if they don’t do it for sword of destiny, I don’t really want it 🤣
I like 'pocket' books. They're cute! Also, take less space on the shelves. 'The Rithmatist' and 'The Hobbit' have really good designs. It might be though, I have somewhat of a fetish for really small books or really big/chunky ones 😅
I imagine the pocket books must be great if you travel a lot and only have limited space, my editions of LOTR are small so really good for saving space and aren’t too heavy either but then you have the really mini editions and I always worry about how small the text is going to be so overall I’m pretty neutral over pocket editions 🤔
Stepbacks started with romance, I do believe -- having an "appropriate" cover but then that lil sneaky cover that was more "scandalous." But yeah IDK WHY TF IT IS NOW IN OTHER GENRES. Drives me nuts! Now it's just for marketing blurbs and I'm like... why???? Just put them on the first couple pages!
Completely agree with the special edition point!!! Or (as an addition to your point) when a book box or something gives out special editions of the first book, but then doesn't give those subscribers first dibs on the second/third if they released. I have been stung so many times because I've got the first book in a Fairyloot, but then the second books just go on general sale and I miss out!
I agree with you about stickers on books. They should be removable. I just unintentionally got a small edition of one of my favorite classics - not sure if that is what you mean by minis. It is about the size of my hand. It is really cute. As long as I can read the print, I am okay with the size.
2:56 I'm with you on "as seen on TikTok"... but I guarantee you this is advertising that works. The publishers know there is a segment of folks that WILL pick up a book they never heard of before. Or maybe they had heard of but hadn't yet considered buying, and that label will push a certain number of folks to actually spend the money.
Can you make a video of you reading to Luna bear? What kind of books does she like? … she looks like a grimdark fan to me lol anyways thanks for sharing! I agree with all of these
I own both the TOG minis and the Rithmatist mini.....the TOG ones are kind of waste of space, but the Rithmatist I got on accident because I like the new cover and didn't realize it was mini online. I will say that it was VERY handy to put in my jacket pocket to take to the gym, but otherwise...it just doesn't look good on a shelf with normal sized books.
are pocketbooks different than mass market paperbacks? because they kinda just look like mass markets with a more sellable name, in which case I am all for it. I think mass markets get a lot of unnecessary slack in the book community
Ugh! Misaligned spines are so frustrating 😤 It takes so much effort to get them right again - where they inevitably end up with creases, but if I don't correct them, it's going to bother me for hours after every single time I look at it🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ I really envy the people who aren't frustrated by all these little things😅😅🙈
You are not alone with the special editions. I want the special edition of Leviathan Wakes so bad but if I have it set up next to my paperback collection … it will effectively be an eyesore … even if it only offends my OCD. A whole set like that would be amazing but I’m not going to spend the money on hoping they release them either.
the not big enough cover is called a step back, very popular with older romances. there is usually art work in there, although sometimes it is just text which is annoying.
It's crazy that authors can't pick the title of their book! Like you said I understand that they help and guide you because they have more knowledge about what can work and what won't, but just deciding for you is not okay in my opinion...
Oh my god, where do i start? :)) 1. Whoever invennted the permanent stickers...i hate you from the bottom of my heart 2. The special Editions...totally understand...specially when there are even sequels or complementary books with special editions, but not books 2,3 etc in the main series (Ex; I have the Shadow and Bone collect's edition, as well as the six of crows duology, but there are none for Siege and Storm, Ruin and Rising... 3. Covers that are smaller than the pages are such a shame...I love the art on the House on the Cerulean sea, but it's half a cm smaller and it drives me insane haha 4. The only pocket editions i have are the LOTR ones, and i love how they look on the shelves, but probably because i haven't found the time to read them yet and i don't own the big ones either (i got these as a birthday gift)
I pre-ordered a Signed Special Edition (1st run 1st edition) and it came with 3... that THREE effing "stickers" haphazardly slapped on the jacket of the book, but it was the "Barnes and Noble Exclusive" sticker that guaranteed it would be the last time I purchase an exclusive offer from them. Stickers need to be easily removable vinyl instead of a blight on the original jacket that devalues the collectors item.
The tiktok thing is so funny! I also like the tables and stuff. Yesterday at my library, there was a display of witchy books with this huge photo of the quote “HER SISTER WAS A WITCH, RIGHT?” And I immediately laughed. However, I don’t want any fake stickers on my books no matter what they say. 😖😖
Pocket books… I have feelings. I carry pocket sized books when my anxiety is really high. Re-reading a comfort book or poem can help (me personally) talk myself down from going into a full (take me to the hospital) panic attack. I don’t know why they make them… but that is why I like them. Randomly found them when I was like sixteen - before I even knew what anxiety was lol those tiny Austen books barns and noble came out with… huge help. Life changing.
Okay, so the opposite side of the pocket books is am I the only one who thinks hardbacks have become uncomfortably large? I love it when I get a book club edition because they tend to be smaller. I am a very small person in general but I prefer the looks of hardbacks and I feel like they are too tall which makes them less comfortable to read. I don't think that extra inch is needed because I will then open said large book and the margins are huge. I like small books because I like to carry them around and I I have a small purse and honestly mass market books just don't look as nice on my bookcase so I care for a completely shallow reason but it is what it is. Agree with everything you said minus the dust jacket issue because I hate dust jackets. I think they are so ugly and just cheapen the look of the book so the first thing I do is rip them right off and toss them. I have trained myself to throw away the dust jacket after I have read the book and decided to keep it though because I donate books I didn't enjoy and I want people to be able to read the summary of what the book is. Wish they would just print that in the back of the book. Also wish more publishers would do what they did for the Night Vale series and print the cover art on the hardback itself. If I am a really big fan of cover art, I will just buy the paperback but I have to be really over the moon with the art to do that and then you run into the issue of the paperback art not matching the hardback art.
I really like the updated uk covers of the Witcher series! But they do have the permanent Netflix promo sticker on the covers sooooo maybe not perfect haha
Authors don't even control how their name appears in the book. My father never used his middle initial in his byline, but one publisher inserted it, without even telling him first.
I used to not be a fan of the stepbacked cover, but I find I can forgive it if it's got some neat art or something hidden underneath. I also like books with a sort of cutout in the cover and peeks through to the art below.
Also my biggest pet peeve now for audio books is when they change a voice actor for whatever reason mid series. Which is fine if there were conflicts or something legitimate issues. But the problem for me is when the voice actor preforming the book is just garbage. And the actor is great in other books but this one is like no difference in inflection for separate characters. Or the whole story has very little culture in it. For those of you who listen to audio books know what I mean!
Omg I can’t agree more about the short front covers on paperbacks! If it’s done with some sense of design then at least I understand it, but most of the time the second page is just promo blurbs. Sheesh.
Pocket books are usually for travel so you don't have to carry around a full-sized book that could make your bag heavier, especially if you're going away for a while and wanna bring a whole 5-book series with you to read. Also, printing those minibooks doesn't take money away from other authors, that'd be like saying special edition prints take money away from other authors.
Im glad someone else shares my hatred of stickers that you cant peel off. I will straight up refuse to buy books like that its why Ive yet to read Green Bone Saga.
Here's a lowkey one: When blurbs on the front or back are for a completely different book by the author. Or completely replace any summary on the back.
"from the author of the hit series, about the boy chasing a girl through a forest of magical land, and defied all odds"... Okaaay but what is THIS series about??
@Esmeralda in Paris that is kinda sad considering the authour probably doesn't have any say in that either :(
I hate any kind of blurb in the front cover too, I want the title and name of the author there, not a quote and name of another random maybe more famous author
I found this with the WoT series, all the mass market paperbacks have the little blurb about the Wheel turning, but nothing about the specific book, which is annoying considering there are so many, and most of their titles (excluding the first two) don’t have much to do with the plot of each book
When the back has a review instead of a blurb. Ebooks do this a lot, too. Tell me what the book is about, not why a journalist thinks you're a talented writer.
Or "why your fellow author friends thinks I need to read it".
@@mischarowe exactly! That info doesn't help me if I don't know what the book is actually about.
this is really interesting. I've noticed that a lot with English books but in Germany books always have blurbs on the backs and never reviews.
@@grace4683 if/when my books get published, I hope they never have back covers with reviews rather than blurbs. I also hope that's something authors get a say over.
The sticker thing drives me INSANE! We've vowed to never do that to our books, authors, and readers! Also, the special edition thing is tricky! I see it from both sides. It's hard to solve that one 😬
Unless the sticker says that this book won a Pulitzer Prize, then I don't care.
another title trend i hate is "the profession's relation", e.g. the alchemist's daughter, The Captain's Daughter, The Poacher's Son, the bookbinder's daughter and so on and on, there's SO MANY of them
Daughter of the Pirate King, Daughter of the Siren Queen...not professions, but I feel you lol 😂
Haha this is so true!!
I really enjoyed The Madman's Daughter
*The Time Traveller's Wife* ...time travel, (a condn) not a profession though🙃.
hm funny how it’s mostly female relations that are labelled that way. i wonder if a book is titled “the alchemist” or “the pirate” or “the captain” and people would visualise a female character instead of a male character?
About those short covers- is this some sort of attempt at being seductive? Like if a person were to slowly slip a bit of clothing off? The book is like, “ooOoOh! Look at my beautiful, sexy pages! You know you want to read me!”
It’s weird. I hate it.
Actually I love pocket books! Pocket editions are very common in the UK, for instance, and living in a European city I go about in public transportation a lot and don't even own a car. Pocket books are perfect to carry with me in a small bag whereas those bigger editions are just to heavy and don't fit anywhere... And I love reading on the subway!
I bought the Mistoborn trilogy as a pocket edition boxed set. Honestly, I did it because it was cheaper. That's usually the way I choose my books. I can't always afford hard covers and regular paperbacks are almost as expensive. Whenever there's a pocket edition available, I'll buy it, because it saves me money and at the end of the day I'm reading the exact same book, just not as "big" and "pretty". Maybe it's because I'm not a purist, but as long as I'm reading a physical copy (cause I'm not a fan of e-books) I'm happy!
I'm the exact same way!
Whatever is the cheapest version is the version I buy just cause that's what my budget can afford. I can totally understand why the mix and match look on a shelf would bother some people though. Fortunately it doesn't bug me. Gives me "overcrowded used book store" vibes and I love it.
@@kristindeacey3700 Yeah! My bookshelves are definitely mismatched and I don't care all that much. All that matters is I get to read them.
Yep, I completely get that. That's why a lot of my series are mix/matched. I have hardcovers for half the series, then paperback with the others because I just go for cheaper options. Bargain sites, thrift stores, I'm not picky at all. It's nice to have a matching series but honestly, I just wanna read the books, I don't care about how they look unless it's a serious I ADORE then I sometimes let myself get it if I have the money to
I usually buy the pocket but sometimes I'm so willing to get the last one of a thrilogy or similar then I may buy the big one because I don't want to wait until the pocket version of it. 😅
I also like the pocket versions more because I can travel with them. And it's not the same with an ebook for me. And because the space at my appartment. I'd love to have a bookshelf like yours but then we couldn't be in that room at the same time.🥲
Oh and one more thing! I read a lot of translated books. We need a law that makes sure publishers translate the whole Trilogy ect and don't stop publishing at Vol. 2. 😢😖
One of the most heartbreaking things I experience quite frequently: destroyed books in deliveries. Always though.
I hate the stickers!!! All the stickers! First of all the ones printed on the cover, i will not buy the book, like not a chance in hell. The actual stickers sometimes are a pleasure to remove, but some of them are the paper stickers....and they never come off properly, you need a blow dryer or glue removal. I just hate stickers!
I agree with you on everything, maybe not on pocketbooks, because at the end of the day you can use the same argument against any special edition, they are all a cash grab and meant to attract more people into buying them. Unlike special editions, pocketbooks are actually useful as they are so small you can carry them in a pocket.
Yes! If I’m going to buy the book I’m also spending the money on having a beautiful cover design that I want to look at. If they’re going to ruin it with a permanent sticker than I will not offer them my money.
Lemon essential oil.. Removes all stickers.. Only need a little to go a long way.. (dnt use on plastic.. It melts plastic)
Pocket books are a huge market in France and a plus for people who doesn't have space and have a little buget too. And they are really easy to grab on a trip or when you are outside and you don't want to bring the big seize. I love to take (sometimes) the pocket version when I have a little purse and I want to read in the public transportation or at the beach.
I’m gonna call my book “she of shadows and ruin”. I think it’s really unique...
How about "She Who Ruined Bones"?
I LOVE pocket books, it’s definitely a space issue and I wish there was a way to be able to order a mini book version of any book, not just some Uber popular ones we already have a billion versions of. Great video!
Now I really want a book actually titled "A blank of blank and blank" 😂
Oh, and we need less covers with the "girl in big dress walking away from the camera"
But we need more sprayed edges ❤️
The not big enough covers on paperbacks are usually called stepbacks and they were and I think still somewhat are a fairly popular thing in romance novels, especially the trade paperback kind. I am not as well versed as to why they came into popularity but for the most part, the stepback used to showcase the full cover artwork on the inside, without the text and titles.
Personally I really enjoy those artwork stepbacks but now the more common kind is just having testimonials of the book being displayed and I absolutely hate that!!
Like, publishers should not make stepbacks just because. At least have something interesting on the inside, I don't care what the New York Times has said about the book. They're not the reason I am going to pick the book up!
Books in a series that don't put the book number on the cover (Book x of The Legend of Booktube). Confusing.
This is a good one, totally agree!
Absolutely this.
Yesss and when you can’t quite tell if a book is a sequel or not bc it says “from the author of XYZ” but it’s not obvious that you have to read XYZ first 😂
@@baticeer_ Oh god yes. Or that awkward moment in the bookstore where you need to look things up on your phone and you're just standing there looking at your phone for ages and people wonder why you're even there. Oof.
Can not tell you how many times I had to look up a book for the description so I know which is next.
Pocket sized books: I'm for them because I can stick them in my pocket comfortably.
The snobbery regarding the Self pub vs trad pub is not just about readers, but also writers. A good number of writers will not pick up a book if they find out it's been self published. I would say it's a small number of people, but my interactions tell me otherwise, and there are great books out there that were self published.
We need a blank of blank and blank for book jeopardy 😂 We need A Court of Joe and Brian!
@Esmeralda in Paris A Court of Sex and Hobbits was better than the actual answer 😂
The unaligned sleeves is literally every single brandon sanderson book I have and it drives me INSANE!
In Japan, books are pretty much all ‘mini’ sized paperbacks, and thats, of course, because of lack of space and a care for environment, and also probably because miniature/mono stuff is kind of their aesthetic/whats they’re used to. I remember seeing this girl in a train in Japan reading a book while standing. She was holding it with one hand - smol paperback with removed cover jacket - and she flipped the page with her thumb, of the same hand she held the book with, no sweat.
Anyway, I think if not only ‘popular’ books would be part of the ‘mini’ trend, but all books would get this treatment, it would be nice. Thats not the case in most countries tho.
My favorite thing about the "Noun of Noun and Noun" or "Noun of Noun" title is the gameshow Um, Actually.
It's all about nerdy stuff, and they sometimes do a game where they mix up all the nouns of 6 different books titles and the players have to try to create the correct book titles.
It is one of my obsessions currently and is one of the best things on UA-cam. I suggest all nerds check it out, no matter what you are nerdy about 😊
I love Um, Actually!
The tiktok stickers actually make me hesitant to buy a book. If I saw that on a book, I'd be like, 'huh, this must be a totally mediocre book.'
lol same "oh, this is trash.... anyway..."
They have to know we hate stickers, WHY WONT THEY STOP 😭😭😭😭
I totally do the same with waiting for the subsequent books in special editions to be announced before buying the first one. I really want them to match 🤣🧡
Specially if I already have one edition and I'm looking to a luxury one
I'm noticing a lot of book titles along the trend of "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo", so for example you might have "The Nine Chalices of Wizard Tod" or whatever, and it makes it incredibly difficult to remember any one individual title. Like, I know for sure there's another "The Seven ____ of_____" something book that came out in the last few years, but can't for the life of me remember it right now.
The seven deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle by Stuart Turton!
The Seven Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle. I haven't read any of those, but I mix them up all the time.
@@BellatrixVanDettaZwarts That's it! I see I'm not the only one lol.
@@HesterViool Thank you!
Exactly.
And Usually only the first book of a series will be published in collector's editions. Idk why, if I'm a collector, I'll get the whole series in collector's edition.
The idea I see it for special editions is that it's nice to have a good looking edition of a single book, but it's not to own the complete collection. I, the ever zealous completist, find this very difficult to say. However, you likely already own a collection, the special edition is more like a memento of that story than the story itself.
If they release the rest in the series, that's just a bonus.
3 other peeves: when ebook covers switch (at least give me a choice!) and hardbacks that don’t have a dust jacket. Most hardbacks have them, but some don’t and I really with they would. 3 - when there’s different covers for UK editions that are so much cooler than the US cover. I can think of so many versions I would buy if they were available in the US.
I'm raging each time when the same publisher doesn't keep the same size of books in the book series... I have trilogies where one book sticks out or a series of 6 books where second to last sticks out. WHY????!!! I would understand if it was a different publisher but this? The recent that got me in a twist was the size of The Hunger of the Gods by J.Gwynne. Orbit has always been keeping series the same size but for whatever reason HoG BARELY fits in a shelf and is humongous compared to Shadow of the Gods.
Another one of mine is the stiff paperback issue...it's so incredibly difficult to read when you don't want to break the spine! More often than not I get cramps in my wrists as I'm trying to read these.
The third annoyance that I have is when I see bookstores full of people around Xmas time and during the rest of the year, they're empty. It makes me so angry. As if books were only convenient when you don't know what to give to people. Books should not be treated as a last resort. It's upsetting.
Oh my goodness the rage that builds up if I think out those step back covers on paperbacks. If I am on the fence about buying a book and then I take it out and it has THAT for a cover I will put the book back so fast
The Lunar Chronicles new paperbacks have a stepback aka an illustration inside and they are beautiful! Stepbacks are very common in romance mass market editions, that little cut is to indicate it. I wish more editions of tall paperbacks had it :)
I’m the same with special editions, I will wait until all of them are out! I don’t like mixing and matching them if they only do the first one. There are some series where I see how it would make sense to just do the first book because it is vastly more popular, but it still irks me. I’m a big Anne of Green Gables fan and so many publishers put out beautiful editions of the first one but then none of the others. Ugh! I also struggle when I discover a beautiful edition too late and the box set is already sold out, and not all of the books are still available! I currently have that problem with a super pretty Anne edition of Tundra Books that I recently discovered, but the only books I managed to find so far are 1,2,3, - 5&8! So weird, especially since books 4,6,7 are hard to find/sold out in other editions as well. I am rambling now so I’ll stop haha, but this really is a pet peeve of mine.
I too am an AOGG collector - there's that beautiful hardcover set where it all makes one textual image and yet its only the first 5 books, terribly annoying
As a comics mostly reader, variable transparency on whether a new run or a new book is meant to be an ongoing or if it’s designed as a miniseries. Yes, they do kind of need to see how a book does but at the same time if a book is intended to be only 4-6 issues or 12 issues regardless of sales or popularity can they just be upfront about it. Also, it’s totally fine if a trade paperback or hardcover is the first way a comic gets published as floppies get inconvenient over time.
OH I TOTALLY FEEL YOU ON THE WEIRD PAPERBACK COVERS!
YES! The short paperback covers! I did some googling and it seems like it is just a style choice?!
As a book lover/collector I completely agree with you on special edition series! As someone who works in publishing, I also understand that it is incredibly difficult to find a solution because sales do play a huge part otherwise you run the risk of being wasteful in both cost and stock.
As a not-natural-bookworm but one who actively tries really hard to get through books..I find the titles with "blank of blank and blank" to be a horrible turn off. It makes me assume that its going to be garbage. I have caved and read a few of those titles but most of the time my intuition is right.
I really enjoy your bookshelves. It's high on the list of reasons I keep coming back to your channel.
Yes, all of these. Especially the sticker thing that you can't remove gets in my crawl and I won't buy a book based on it. And the misaligned spine..... ughhhhh. I also wait on all of the special editions before buying. I feel so seen LOL. Thanks for this video.
I have the hobbit and LOTR in the hardback pocket edition set. I ordered them not realizing that they were pocket-size, but the price was good for the whole set. They are well-made books and the dust jackets have Tolkien's art design. The size does have its pros and cons. The print is a bit small, but they are easy to carry in a jacket pocket or purse.
The tiktok thing will also date the book so mich in like 3 years. Also you never saw the as seen on UA-cam stickers!
One book trend I hate above all others is a character-cried-wolf scenario when they actually saw what happened yet none believe. Thrilled as I was to see the "Fear Street Relaunch" series hit the shelves, I was irritated to no end by "Don't Stay Up Late" and ranted about it on my BookTube channel.
I’ll be honest, I don’t pick up books with A Thing of Blank and Blank titles anymore. Most of the time I don’t even look at the synopsis because the titles annoy me so much. I know how petty that must sound
omg i agree with the special edition one like the fist book in dune has so many special editions but not the other ones.. like i get it, its 6 books but theres SO MANY first editions one of them couldve done the rest too
I have several. The dust jacket being one of them. I understand that it's meant to protect the book, but when it slides around all over the place when I'm trying to read the book, I can't stand that. I usually end up removing the dust jacket when I go to read the book. Then there's my bookshelf itself. Ask before you touch, return the book to the shelf you found it on, and if you put it back upside down, on it's side, or backwards with the pages sticking out, you can leave my house and never come back.
You know, I’ve always assumed that it’s standard to only keep the dust jackets on while the books aren’t in use. I figured that was the point, so they’re protected when set aside. Is that not the case?
@@thomasmannia It usually is. I used to completely remove the dust jacket and leave it off. I was a kid. I didn't know any better.
I’m so with you about the short cover on paperbacks… why do they do that??? I seek out hardcovers anytime I know a paperback it like that
I specifically decided to get the pocket editions of LOTR + the Hobbit that you pictured in the vid cause of their small form factor. Got the 4 books for around $25, and small enough to fit in my jacket pocket. I wish pocket books were as popular as in Japan so that I can buy more series and leave my ebook at home.
I like the mini copies of books for travel. If I want to read a book on a plane or at a beach I can bring more mini books than I would be able to with a full size paperback.
The dust jacket thing happened to me with Amari and the Night Brothers and I have considered sneakily swapping it for a different one in Barnes and Noble very many times lol.
😂😂😂
Are pocket books just the same as the mass paperback books? If so, they aren't my favorite things, but some older (and not so old, but not popular) books are so hard to find in hardcover and/or in paperback. So sometimes I just have to settle. Plus my local used book store resales them for $1, so I can't really complain when I'm running on a low budget sometimes.
Stickers and uneven book covers are the kryptonite of my shelf!!
I can relate with the book covers pet peeve. For example, I bought the netflix six of crows edition of the book because I loved it and really wanted to read, but I want the covers to match if I buy the rest. The first shadow and bone cover does, but will they make matching covers for the rest of the series?
Also, if there are sets for different books that go together, I wish you can buy each book individually if you do not want to buy the whole set especially since they are so expensive. But that is a me thing, mostly.
Stickers never bothered me because I am so used to them, but as I got older, i have a small hate for the permanent stickers because they cover the author’s name or are slab dab in the middle of the cover at times. I do not want to focus on the sticker. Bar codes on top of the summary on the back of the book annoy me so much because they interfere with how you get interested in the book or film.
Oh God I didn’t know about the tiktok sticker thing 🤮. Just when I thought the permanent sticker thing couldn’t get worse 😭
This was fun. I liked that you tried to see the publishers perspective as well, and your knowledge really shines :)
Honestly, pocket books are cheaper in my experience, if you buy the whole serie at once. They look a bit weird on my shelf, but it's sometimes worth it to me.
i actually really like the "a ___ of ___ & ____" title trend. every time someone tells me "ughhh these titles again, so dumb right!?" i just have to smile and nod because everyone seems to feel so strongly about them and i feel like a silly tumblr girl or something for liking them so much hahaha i can see how they'd be repetitive though
Chuckle, I found myself agreeing with all your points.
I do think self-publishing is turning a corner and we are seeing more authors turning to it as a way forward..
Not interested in pocket books or trade paperbacks.
I completely agree about the misaligned dust jacket. I bought the special edition of The Name of the Wind and the covers off. Bothers me to no end!
I've been watching a lot of these Bookish pet peeves and almost everyone mentions the Special Editing thing. A friend who has a bookshelf full of first editions that were never expanded, she says that if everybody stops none might be finish but hopes that they will all eventually be expanded.
Those damn stickers will make me less likely to buy the book. 🙄
I do adore pocket books because they are perfect for traveling. With paperbacks I really dislike breaking the spine but I don't want to travel with my hardback. I once ordered on by accident by John Scalzi and was moping after I found out only the first book in the trilogy got published as a pocket book.
Pet peeve of mine is when I do order a paperback I always seem to get the wrong dimensions. Why isn't there a standard size? Becky Chambers, a long way to an angry planet series, have all different dimensions and it drives me bonkers...
I bought the leatherbound version of LOTR when the movie came out. To spend any less would have meant to be stuck with modern actors' faces on the cover of a timeless book. If they had done that for Narnia during the 8's BBC movies they would have made it dated and silly once the newer movies were made. Given most books are superior than movies (especially in the eyes of readers) than the movies adaptations don't offend readers hoping to suck in moviegoers. The numbers are against you.
Also, I got the Eye Of The World SE and loved it with it's attached bookmark. It's sad that the rest couldn't be purchased that way given none of the Wheel of Time books are under 600 pages.
By pocket books do you mean mass market paperback as well? Some books I've purchased are only available in this style, and it's a little irritating as I prefer trade paperback over any style.
I completely agree about the first book getting a special edition! I’m not buying the new illustrated edition of the last wish because if they don’t do it for sword of destiny, I don’t really want it 🤣
I like 'pocket' books. They're cute! Also, take less space on the shelves. 'The Rithmatist' and 'The Hobbit' have really good designs.
It might be though, I have somewhat of a fetish for really small books or really big/chunky ones 😅
I imagine the pocket books must be great if you travel a lot and only have limited space, my editions of LOTR are small so really good for saving space and aren’t too heavy either but then you have the really mini editions and I always worry about how small the text is going to be so overall I’m pretty neutral over pocket editions 🤔
Stepbacks started with romance, I do believe -- having an "appropriate" cover but then that lil sneaky cover that was more "scandalous." But yeah IDK WHY TF IT IS NOW IN OTHER GENRES. Drives me nuts! Now it's just for marketing blurbs and I'm like... why???? Just put them on the first couple pages!
Completely agree with the special edition point!!! Or (as an addition to your point) when a book box or something gives out special editions of the first book, but then doesn't give those subscribers first dibs on the second/third if they released. I have been stung so many times because I've got the first book in a Fairyloot, but then the second books just go on general sale and I miss out!
I agree with you about stickers on books. They should be removable. I just unintentionally got a small edition of one of my favorite classics - not sure if that is what you mean by minis. It is about the size of my hand. It is really cute. As long as I can read the print, I am okay with the size.
How do you do this hairstyle? Are those little pins or rubber bands in ur hair?
2:56 I'm with you on "as seen on TikTok"... but I guarantee you this is advertising that works. The publishers know there is a segment of folks that WILL pick up a book they never heard of before. Or maybe they had heard of but hadn't yet considered buying, and that label will push a certain number of folks to actually spend the money.
Can you make a video of you reading to Luna bear? What kind of books does she like? … she looks like a grimdark fan to me lol anyways thanks for sharing! I agree with all of these
I own both the TOG minis and the Rithmatist mini.....the TOG ones are kind of waste of space, but the Rithmatist I got on accident because I like the new cover and didn't realize it was mini online. I will say that it was VERY handy to put in my jacket pocket to take to the gym, but otherwise...it just doesn't look good on a shelf with normal sized books.
are pocketbooks different than mass market paperbacks? because they kinda just look like mass markets with a more sellable name, in which case I am all for it. I think mass markets get a lot of unnecessary slack in the book community
They’re quite a bit smaller
Ugh! Misaligned spines are so frustrating 😤 It takes so much effort to get them right again - where they inevitably end up with creases, but if I don't correct them, it's going to bother me for hours after every single time I look at it🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ I really envy the people who aren't frustrated by all these little things😅😅🙈
You are not alone with the special editions. I want the special edition of Leviathan Wakes so bad but if I have it set up next to my paperback collection … it will effectively be an eyesore … even if it only offends my OCD. A whole set like that would be amazing but I’m not going to spend the money on hoping they release them either.
the not big enough cover is called a step back, very popular with older romances. there is usually art work in there, although sometimes it is just text which is annoying.
It's crazy that authors can't pick the title of their book! Like you said I understand that they help and guide you because they have more knowledge about what can work and what won't, but just deciding for you is not okay in my opinion...
Oh my god, where do i start? :))
1. Whoever invennted the permanent stickers...i hate you from the bottom of my heart
2. The special Editions...totally understand...specially when there are even sequels or complementary books with special editions, but not books 2,3 etc in the main series (Ex; I have the Shadow and Bone collect's edition, as well as the six of crows duology, but there are none for Siege and Storm, Ruin and Rising...
3. Covers that are smaller than the pages are such a shame...I love the art on the House on the Cerulean sea, but it's half a cm smaller and it drives me insane haha
4. The only pocket editions i have are the LOTR ones, and i love how they look on the shelves, but probably because i haven't found the time to read them yet and i don't own the big ones either (i got these as a birthday gift)
I pre-ordered a Signed Special Edition (1st run 1st edition) and it came with 3... that THREE effing "stickers" haphazardly slapped on the jacket of the book, but it was the "Barnes and Noble Exclusive" sticker that guaranteed it would be the last time I purchase an exclusive offer from them. Stickers need to be easily removable vinyl instead of a blight on the original jacket that devalues the collectors item.
It struck me like a freight train when you said A Blank of This and That, that it follows iambic pentameter
The tiktok thing is so funny! I also like the tables and stuff. Yesterday at my library, there was a display of witchy books with this huge photo of the quote “HER SISTER WAS A WITCH, RIGHT?” And I immediately laughed. However, I don’t want any fake stickers on my books no matter what they say. 😖😖
The cover thing, totally agree! It bothers me so much (where cover page with and book width defer)
Pocket books were for a time when we didn’t have ebooks. The whole point was for the size and ease of access.
I love the pocket book of the Rhythmatist! Nicer cover, hardcover/sturdier, and most importantly for me, it tales up less space!!!
yes this how i feel about the expanse series. love the speical edition but will not be getting thre others in its older covers
Saaaaame
Same here. Won’t buy it until there is more commitment from the publisher
I'm currently living in horror that the final book might come out not matching the previous books.....
Pocket books… I have feelings. I carry pocket sized books when my anxiety is really high. Re-reading a comfort book or poem can help (me personally) talk myself down from going into a full (take me to the hospital) panic attack.
I don’t know why they make them… but that is why I like them. Randomly found them when I was like sixteen - before I even knew what anxiety was lol those tiny Austen books barns and noble came out with… huge help. Life changing.
Okay, so the opposite side of the pocket books is am I the only one who thinks hardbacks have become uncomfortably large? I love it when I get a book club edition because they tend to be smaller. I am a very small person in general but I prefer the looks of hardbacks and I feel like they are too tall which makes them less comfortable to read. I don't think that extra inch is needed because I will then open said large book and the margins are huge. I like small books because I like to carry them around and I I have a small purse and honestly mass market books just don't look as nice on my bookcase so I care for a completely shallow reason but it is what it is. Agree with everything you said minus the dust jacket issue because I hate dust jackets. I think they are so ugly and just cheapen the look of the book so the first thing I do is rip them right off and toss them. I have trained myself to throw away the dust jacket after I have read the book and decided to keep it though because I donate books I didn't enjoy and I want people to be able to read the summary of what the book is. Wish they would just print that in the back of the book. Also wish more publishers would do what they did for the Night Vale series and print the cover art on the hardback itself. If I am a really big fan of cover art, I will just buy the paperback but I have to be really over the moon with the art to do that and then you run into the issue of the paperback art not matching the hardback art.
I really like the updated uk covers of the Witcher series! But they do have the permanent Netflix promo sticker on the covers sooooo maybe not perfect haha
Authors don't even control how their name appears in the book. My father never used his middle initial in his byline, but one publisher inserted it, without even telling him first.
I'm so glad you mentioned the titles that are A ___ of ___ and ___ . That's getting really old and they all seem like they're part of the same series.
oh my goodness yesss!! I recently read the Shadow and Bone series and absolutely fell in looooove
Oh the stickers is real pain. In my country, they started to print the barcodes with price directly on the cover 😫
getting really close to 100k!
I used to not be a fan of the stepbacked cover, but I find I can forgive it if it's got some neat art or something hidden underneath. I also like books with a sort of cutout in the cover and peeks through to the art below.
Lmao tiktok stickers need to go. Did not know that was a thing.
Same, i've never seen any in my local libraries. Guess I'm blessed xD
Also my biggest pet peeve now for audio books is when they change a voice actor for whatever reason mid series. Which is fine if there were conflicts or something legitimate issues. But the problem for me is when the voice actor preforming the book is just garbage. And the actor is great in other books but this one is like no difference in inflection for separate characters. Or the whole story has very little culture in it. For those of you who listen to audio books know what I mean!
Omg I can’t agree more about the short front covers on paperbacks! If it’s done with some sense of design then at least I understand it, but most of the time the second page is just promo blurbs. Sheesh.
Pocket books are usually for travel so you don't have to carry around a full-sized book that could make your bag heavier, especially if you're going away for a while and wanna bring a whole 5-book series with you to read.
Also, printing those minibooks doesn't take money away from other authors, that'd be like saying special edition prints take money away from other authors.
Im glad someone else shares my hatred of stickers that you cant peel off. I will straight up refuse to buy books like that its why Ive yet to read Green Bone Saga.