I Finally Understand Why Everyone Likes Haytham Kenway.

#gaming #assassinscreed

[@nathanbarnes3969]

That moment when he placed the ring on Charles Lee’s hand and declared him a Templar was literally the most wtf moment in all of Assassin’s Creed

[@burge117]

Yeah it certainly threw me for 6 😂

[@yezki8]

I said "what" the same moment as them lmao

[@JagoShogun]

and this game a had a lot of "Wtf" moments, even Desmond says "wtf?" to some.
AC1: Finding the apple of eden.
AC2: Finding an ISU vault.
Brotherhood: Cesere fucked his sister

[@TheArcher101]

If only the subtitles didn't spoil it before the line was uttered

[@arcanefury3666]

In hindsight, it being a ring made it worse. In 1 you lose your ring finger, in 2 you burn it, so having a ring to show your commitment to the creed does seem like a natural progression.

[@AnnoyedRocket-ep6dn]

Haytham Kenway is liked because he is charismatic, intelligent, ruthless and elegant and makes Templar cause and ideology mean something and his reasons are logical. In Assassin's Rogue he was under utilized, the game could have been more if it was extended lil long and made Haytham a payable character like AC3.

[@olchum7605]

My only question towards rogue was the writing. In any assassin's creed game the Templars are unquestionably evil performing literally war crimes and assassin's are underdogs fighting against them.
one of the first interactions with assassin's in rogue is you destroying a poison refining facility that thrratenes general populace???????????
It's extremely black and white and in every game the enemy faction is painted so unquestionably evil it's hard to have a moral dilemma

[@missbelled6700]

@@olchum7605 I missed Rogue on release and recently replayed it, immediately after Black Flag, seemed to me that the overall quality of the writing/pacing took a dive. Everything felt... rushed? Forced? Felt like lots of handwaving and shoehorning and moments that had me going "Huh?", just to hit the plot beats.

[@JagoShogun]

they aren't "unquestionably" evil.
Are you even paying attention? Even in AC1 it's dubious who's on the right path.
@@olchum7605

[@olchum7605]

@@JagoShogun AC 2 begins with our entire family, even our small brother just hanging for basically existing. Easily Unquestionably evil to me

[@JagoShogun]

That's the borgia, who are evil, but happen to be templars.
there are assassin's who have been just as evil. Their whole thing is a cult. And they do questionable things as well.
@@olchum7605

[@Syphur_X]

Haytham is actually one of my favourite characters in the Assassin's Creed franchise

[@burge117]

For sure. Up there with Shay for me. Then probably Edward for my top 3 though no idea on the order 😂

[@boomstick7506]

The templar twist is the best part because it shows how we can become enraptured by spectacle, because he literally has a templar cross on the top of his cloak I only saw after playing the remaster.

[@andytheshark]

Is it odd I saw this twist coming a mile away when it came out?

[@GenesisBoi]

I never realized thencross!

[@powmod1]

​@@andythesharkno, I saw it too
In fact, I was confused that no one acknowledge him as a Templar at the beginning of the game because it was so obvious to me

[@andytheshark]

@@powmod1 It wasn't really his cloak that gave it away to me but his mannerisms and the way he went about things as well as the 'company' he kept.

[@pharaonbastet]

Où est sa croix de templier s’il te plaît ? Je ne la vois pas 😅

[@personnerandom1382]

Haytham is such a good character it was almost a mistake to made us players, play that much with him... because Connor is therefore overshadowed immediatly

[@soundrogue4472]

I mean... you're not wrong.

[@terrypennington2519]

Yeah honestly I would've been perfectly content with just playing Haytham and exploring more of his backstory than playing Connor. He at least should've had his own spinoff game imo

[@Ed_man_talking9]

it would have been cool to play as him going through a corrupt assassin order, seeing what was his final straw that pushed him to side with the templars.

[@nansalem2142]

They did all that so Connor wouldn’t be overshadowed by Ezio before him… gets overshadowed by Haytham instead ffs 😂

[@XenophonOfBuffalo8949]

@@Ed_man_talking9 if i remember correctly, there was a book that explained his backstory. he never had a falling out with the assassins. the templars staged an attack on his home, killed his father, sold his sister into slavery, and kidnapped him. after that, they raised him to believe that it was the assassins that did it, and brought him into the templar order.

[@skollandhati9961]

Haytham seriously needed his own game.

[@patrickmartin6449]

His actions throughout his life do certainly merit one. He trained as an assassin before becoming a Templar, eventually going on to kill his Templar mentor, Sir Reginald Birch, when he found out that he was the one who was responsible for his father's murder, chose to remain a Templar in spite of the fact, and he had his own misadventures.

[@ZorroCeleste1]

I like Shay, but Rogue should have been about Haytham.

[@legateelizabeth]

And it should've been called 'Assassin's Creed 3'. The guy who writes the AC novels agrees, AC3's story doesn't cover Conner's life at all, ONLY HAYTHAM'S.

[@ZorroCeleste1]

@@legateelizabeth - It covers it at the end.

[@ZorroCeleste1]

also add one more to my tally of "no one remembers Connor's name right"

[@JLG629]

Haytham, for being a villain, was super damn likeable and cool in his own way.

[@wanderingbufoon]

He wasnt really. Its just that the tides of who is right or wrong did get blurred and it tipped to the Templar's side by this point. We only ever get to see Haytham's way on Connor's POV. While his goals ruined a ton, it was bringing stability to the world, unlike the Creed where they just go on a power grab to take a piss on the Order. Kinda neat and also pays homage to the beginning of the series where the lines were really blurred to begin with.

[@nathan1507]

It's wild to think that Ubisoft used to make good games at some point.

[@Error-ke1tf]

which is funny because AC3 was kind of hated for various reasons.

[@TheSlammurai]

I'm sure all of the people who worked on the earlier AC games are LONG gone from Ubisoft at this point.

[@davidsantiago7808]

Assassina creed games have always been dogshit what saved ubisoft was the people in charge of the story. The dialogue and story has always been the main attraction to assassins creed.

[@deadturret4049]

​@Error-ke1tf the original ps3 and 360 releases had serious performance issues iirc. Playing it on pc or any of the console re-releases really allows it to shine now.

[@ardynamberglow3124]

Haythem making is dad proud with those fighting skills. I can just see him and edward sharing a drink below deck while he criticizes his left hook.

[@alexanderamayahernandez3912]

That's if they didn't try to kill each other first

[@arshiaaghaei]

@@alexanderamayahernandez3912If Edward wasn't killed Haytham would stay an Assassin very likely.

[@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287]

​@@alexanderamayahernandez3912 I don't think Edward was ever really that far into the whole Assassin deal to ever consider killing his own son. Haythem would not kill his own father.

[@alexanderamayahernandez3912]

@@arshiaaghaei yeah your right

[@alexanderamayahernandez3912]

@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287 it did definitely seem that way in black flag cuz the only result he was hunting the templars was because they crossed him in the first place and the assassin's willing to pay him for contracts didn't really help the templars out any.

[@PeaceInOurTime]

I love this game. Haytham is a great character and I would love a solo game for Haytham Kenway when he trained to become a templar. I'm sorry for Parroting and not saying how I actually felt. This game is legendary. Connor can seem boring to at some points but he does have his moments. Today I'm not finished with the story because I had to focus on school and I played other games.
Let's not hate on this game even if its sometimes understandable.

[@SellingSouls]

I was one of them to be honest. I disliked this game for so many reasons. But now I really enjoy it. Very underrated to say the least. The gameplay, the parkour, all very enjoyable.

[@Stealthful_]

I've always loved AC3, and I started with AC2. How can people not like this? I do not understand.

[@PeaceInOurTime]

@@Stealthful_ you dont have to understand. Quit thinking on why people dislike it and if you enjoy it ENJOY IT. Dont listen to what others say.

[@Stealthful_]

@@PeaceInOurTime right on.

[@jt2074]

eeyy Ive just finished this game for the first time, and gotta say, with the protagonist I felt it couldn't make me feel interested on the story or even his motivations. I actually felt so bored once you begin to use Connor, because at least for me, haytham felt way more ruthless and determined with his cause so much that when I got connor he just felt plain and boring. Don't get me wrong it is a solid game although I didn't loved it

[@ozfifer7392]

The fact that any ship could stay afloat with Kenway's tungsten sack aboard is a miracle.

[@Funinightmare]

This is how you write Villain. The way they utilise his aggression whether passive or fully blown it never comes off as out of nowhere like it has with most of AC villains or even your average movie villain for that matter. You know why Haytham would harm, threaten or kill a man and we don't have a whole back story to explain it unless you read the novel if anything his entire character in this game is well explained in his performance through the acting and a good written script.
The actor who played Judge Claude Frollo in Hunchback of Notre Dame said it best. 'A good Villain is where his actions are understandable but not excusable'

[@LocardIII]

Tony Jay was a legend! Lended his voice to the Legacy of Kain series (among some other greats) I wonder if we’ll ever get another chance at that story.

[@ChantillyVenus]

The Kenway sass never skips a generation

[@user-xs7hp5qk7f]

The fact he has the same animations as Connor who's super brutal while being infinitely calmer is so funny

[@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337]

Kinda wished AC Rogue was his game. I like Shay but Haytham was cooler. I'm also eager to play another "AC" game as a Templar.

[@arshiaaghaei]

Hell even the rogue theme could fit Haytham since he was the son of an assassin but became a Templar mostly by choice.

[@CoachSeamus]

Assassin's Creed lll is one of the most underrated games ever made. It gets so much hate.
The Haytham is a templar twist at the beginning is insanely good
The Colonies/frontier setting is fantastic and fits extremely well with AC
Even though Connor is a bit of a bland character, I still enjoyed his story and killing Lee at the end was extremely satisfying. When they just sit down together at a table in a pub and he finishes him off.
Overall the game is top notch.

[@Przemo9050]

My favorite AC.

[@chrisseger2346]

It was a dumpster fire of glitches. AC isn't exactly known for its polish, but AC3 was so unacceptably janky that calling it "top notch" is borderline criminal.
Beyond that, Connor was a dogshit protagonist.
No, it's not underrated. You just like a shitty game. And that's ok.

[@Przemo9050]

@@chrisseger2346Bs.

[@arshiaaghaei]

@@chrisseger2346AC3 was nowhere near a shitty game, Connor was stoic because his whole village burned and his mother died in front of his eyes.
Sure the modern day ending was cliche, but even the intended ending they had in mind was also a chosen one trope. Modern Day part needed a much better ending that was neither what we got nor what was intended.

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

It's easily my favorite Assassin's Creed. I'm tired of pretending this game sucks.

[@alinkinthechain]

Haytham and Connor were such good characters, I wish that each had their own game as opposed to both being crammed into one

[@silverblade357]

I wish they spent more time developing Connor having some belief in the Assassin's Creed. Haytham clearly believes in the Templar cause, for better or worse, and believes in the greater good.
Connor being solely motivated by his misguided and misinformed vengeance against Charles Lee hurts his character, especially when he learns the truth, but refuses to even consider joining his father.
I just never got the vibe he was truly indoctrinated into the Assassin's way of thinking and he carried on his grudge out of stubbornness.

[@CnC-Kaiwaninimod]

This is why Haytham was best character.

[@pitbullnamedcupcake8485]

Haytham and his dad are the best characters in the franchise(Ezio is up there too but he got 3 games worth of development so he had an unfair advantage)

[@Nushnark]

Haytham was both a blessing and a curse for AC 3, at least for me. I liked the character, since he was well written, but all the time the game took to build up Haytham was time the game didn't have to build up Connor, and for me, that meant that Connor was underdeveloped and not as interesting as Haytham.

[@algernon7272]

Haytham was a step in the right direction for the AC franchise, he was the start of the Templars going from mustache twirling villains to something more grey. I like that for a while, the Templars and Assassins genuinely had good points for why they were doing what they were doing. Not shitting on the old mustache twirling Templars of yore. Rodrigo Borgia and the rest of his allies are genuinely great, I love them as villains, but allowing the player to connect and see Haytham for who he is, and what he stands for, allowed the Templars and Assassins to be less black and white. Hopefully Ubisoft can have the Templars return to their former glory in the future (note: I haven't played much of the RPG games, I've only played through a part of Origins and Odyssey, and haven't even touched their DLC, Valhalla, or Mirage, no spoilers if they come back please🙏)

[@thosemerc3113]

They were only mustache twirling villains in the Ezio saga, AC1 had pretty complex antagonists, even if their roles were brief.

[@algernon7272]

@@thosemerc3113 I sadly haven’t played AC1 in a long time, but I’m sure your right. I really need to replay it.

[@slasher19necroslayer42]

@@algernon7272I played it. And I can confirm his statement. Majority of templars (except for Majd Addin, who is a pure evil like Borgias in Ezio saga) in AC1 are really have good points about the society and trying to change it in better way. Especially their memory corridors dialogues, when they die and showing their true motives.

[@Skyblade12]

Unfortunately they went from the interesting Haytham to the most boring and whiny character in the series. I quit after being stuck in a multi hour tutorial with Connor and haven’t been back to the series since.

[@chaptermasterdomitheus5867]

@@Skyblade12Ironic how you complain about Connor being whiny while you are whining over how much you hate him and making multiple comments on it.

[@O.LEO.N]

His takedown animations. They're flashy, stylish and feel a little fencing oriented.

[@RG-xl7ql]

2:25 I love how every Kenway can bounce between friendly and violent so quickly 😂

[@Mistardmuster]

damn i've been obsessed w haytham for like 2 years i'm so glad this random video with 120k views in a month popped up and is also making other people obsessed with him

[@SellingSouls]

Made me obsessed with him as well. 😭

[@Devastish]

Haytham is charismatic, likeable and well performed. A lot like Ezio in the AC2 trilogy.
In comparison, Connor is flat. He has his moments, but he doesn't compare well at all.
I think that comparison has something to do with why he's remembered fondly. A "what could have been" situation.

[@Dgoc813]

I liked the single sword fighting style that shit was so cool

[@rileyowen7245]

Shay and hytham 🗿 need to come back

[@H.K.5]

I didn’t like Shay that much tbh. He wasn’t a bad character but he’s probably the least interesting protagonist.

[@zambekiller]

​@@H.K.5 shay was the equivalent of a raging teenager where as hytham is the equivalent of a calm sea before the storm pleasant until it's not then it's all hell broken lose

[@arshiaaghaei]

@@H.K.5I didn't like AC Rogue that much in general, because it just swapped the Assassins and the Templars and called it a day. We used to have corrupt assassins like AC1/Revelations but those were written a lot better.

[@im2arrogant118]

Haytham and Shay are my favourite characters in the series. They humanized the templats and made me root for them, especially in AC3. Kenway saga is goated.

[@amefuyuu4983]

Agreed!

[@extartion19]

"British sport"
oh yah the stabbin fight, very British

[@dustinbragg1921]

Much more dignified than our American Bullet Boxing.

[@Redhander]

They squabble with sharp metal in the dirt​. We have more dignified weapons for a more sophisticated age. @@dustinbragg1921

[@gabrielsouzasilva703]

Haythan is my favorite character thanks to the book, makes his templar ideology most understandable than his son

[@devilpupbear09]

May the Father of Understanding guide us

[@lizkoe4246]

People wasn't matured enough to experience this story correctly when it came out

[@The_Gallowglass]

Soon as I heard Smythe talk, I wanted someone to say, "You know captain, there's only one of you and a whole lot of us. One day we might be at sea and you might just slip and fall out of the ship. Be a shame."

[@jarrakul]

Haytham was so good, he made more sense than Connor did. Which was kind of the problem with this whole game.

[@zexohunto]

When I play AC 3 I also thought Haytham is an assassin because he does look like. But he wears more disguise outfit. But later it feels weird because his friend all seen as red highlight meaning they're enemies. And till the last cutscene show up like wtf this guy is a Templar

[@Arthur-zb9eh]

Back when these games actually had mo-capped cutscenes

[@dudlEEk]

This was when Ubisoft still had some ambitions. So much content in this game, its mindboggling. Besides the already massive main story, theres the navy campaign, the homestead missions, the brotherhood recruiting, the complex hunting system and missions, the mysteries and I dunno what else. Insane when you compare it to Valhalla or Origins with their copy pasted shit.

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

Ubisoft still has it, though not well known...
I have Assassin's Creed Nexus, the VR title, and it is quite frankly phenomenal. Probably the best they've had since Syndicate, and most definitely the best Parkour of all the games period.
You have to actually use your hands and there is no better thrill than actually doing the parkour with your own hands and getting to personally run and jump and sneak everywhere.

[@Haytham_Kenway48]

Ah, yes. I am indeed quite lovable.

[@albertgongora6944]

Ironically he didn't threaten him he was just telling him the truth

[@xanderhuskie5172]

Honestly, this game was peak Assasin’s Creed. I loved every second of it!

[@stefanotvp9782]

He's the best antagonist of the whole franchise!

[@eldenlion5850]

Haytham literally got me thinking about the two ideolgies more deeply than just Assassin=good templar= bad
A villain who actually has a point is a well written villain in my book

[@Gunshywally1369]

When did Smythe threaten him? When did he insult him? Like damn son.

[@Bam_Bizzler]

His drip insane. Way better then the mc

[@Bluesonofman]

Conor should have proposed that he and his father join up to create something new that rejected both the Templars and Assassins as organizations. Then created a new organization that blended the best of the two ideologies.

[@sanmesalz1867]

Haytham always was the best playable character of the franchise.
Oh... Those good times...

[@therider2050]

After he placed that ring on lee's hand then the trophy "how do ya like dem apples"poped up i understood the the true meaning of the world

[@jrplumber0503]

Ok hear me out Rogue should have just been a Haytham Kenway game. I know he’s in the game but it would have been cool to play as him during the rest of his time in the Americas.

[@skyhunter2816]

I love all these people pretending they saw the Templar twist "coming a mile away". No you didn't. Quit lying.

[@mariolis]

I had already watched that in a video before I played AC3 for the first time , it was before I had even started playing the AC gmaes , so I always knew
I now wonder how it would have felt like to have experienced the twist without knowing it

[@skyhunter2816]

@@mariolis It was awesome. I think most people here claiming they saw it coming had a similar experience to you and are just acting like they "figured it out" all on their own.

[@Surfword]

I enjoyed playing haytham more than konnor until i got close to the end of konnors game haytham is so cool

[@ericchung3177]

I forgot how everyone looks like a wax mannequin in the remastered version lmaoooo

[@slayerBO2EPC]

The man is just casually dropping DDT's and Dropkicks😂😂😂

[@FilthyFrankenjoyer]

I love how his son is the complete opposite of him but still as ruthless as the father.

[@Jackdiddly1]

He had drip

[@michaelredford5389]

"Excellent, Good day"
(proceeds to poor wine all over his desk and the floor because he's not paying any attention to it) 😅

[@iveyyewitt1621]

The best Templar-Assassin dustup: Haytham v. Connor.
Both characters were interesting and Connor was a blast to play.

[@joesomebody3365]

If I got to play the entire game as Kenway I think I would have liked AC 3 a lot more.

[@darthwagner5897]

What he did to Connor’s mother is unforgivable

[@Lmarquesgamer]

When ac rogue first traler lauch it though it was a haythan game because of his hair and the edward templar robes ...
Shay is amazing and actually one of the best protagonist losing only to edward and ezio but i would love a haythan game (but a assasins game not a rpg gods that the series turn out to be)

[@Redhander]

Assassin's creed has fully jumped the shark, they will never return to the story and gameplay that captured me when I first played it. Everything is made simpler so it's easier to play and it deprives it of all nuance.

[@mohsinali4783]

Haytham > Connor.

[@RaymundEJaspe-fw5gi]

Connor>haytham

[@arturikartur9955]

Nope, they both are my favorites

[@GuiEliasEDF]

Connor is better, Haytham is a shame for many reasons

[@LifeCupNoodles]

Connor = Haytham

[@thephoenix4093]

Understandable if you prefer charisma over character arc, but I find haytham to be a better antsgonist than protagonist.

[@KingOfYamimakai]

The thing about Haytham is that what he's doing isn't helping the Templar at all. The thing is that if Charles Lee inform Haytham of Washington's attack on his wife's village he would have use his authority to send a contingent of soldiers to prevent the attack from happening as during the War for Independence the natives are allies with the English so them seeing Red Coats coming to help them is basically the English strengthening their relationship with the natives. If that were to happen then Connor would have no doubt follow in his father's footstep. An alternative scenario would be the natives of Connor's village receive warning from the hunters that the Blue Coats are coming which would give everyone time to flee. Connor would then be summoned by the elder to be shown an apple of Eden then the rest would play out the same except Achilles would lie to Connor that it was the English disguise as the Colonial soldiers that attack the village to make them look bad resulting in Connor just killing the Red Coats helping the soon to be American until he would meet his father who told him the truth which in term makes Connor lose his trust with Achilles, but his action has consequences. Currently the English well lose the war, America well be born, and the natives well be driven up North into Canada meaning Connor well lose his family due to his action until Haytham suggest that he work with him to insure the natives remain.

[@ZorroForr0501]

That dropkick ☠

[@Universal_exports87]

He's by far my favorite Templar.

[@RaiVer928]

Haytham backstory makes me sad for him

[@martinoliva8605]

why is the remaster just oversaturated deep fried version of the original

[@1mrsheep]

Theres a reason why Haytham has a book written about him and not connor. Haytham is simply a better character and they should have had AC3 from the templars perspective

[@-amin6700]

They went from this to the god awful fist fights in Valhalla

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

And then Assassin's Creed Nexus just let you do whatever in VR. I got to stab people with arrows and parry with my hidden blades WITH MY OWN HANDS

[@lasonris8934]

Took me and my brother 30 minutes to see the turtorial saying what to do, the man had a giant red blood stain on his chest from giving him delicate pats to the chest

[@overheatedeskim054]

Because he is their favourite Assassin's dad

[@rjwallace7477]

I liked him after rouge because I hated every assassin in that game lol

[@ManBehindThePencil]

The Kenway saga is one of my favorite next to the ezio trilogy and this video is one of those “obvious”reasons

[@yasininn76]

"but-"
"I SAID GOOD DAY, SIR."

[@MaterialObserver3956]

Gives off phantom pain vibes

[@different_stuff]

I liked haytham because all previous main characters were either reckless and careless or rightful warriors of light at different points of their games. Typical protagonists. But Haytham instantly showed himself as the "boss" of any situation he's in, he showed ruthlessness.

[@Yannis1a]

I still think AC Rogue should have been he as protagonist, as someone who read his book, their are many aspects of his story that would have been cool to play, they miss a great opportunity

[@mgamobilegamingamature8684]

I never played rouge yet but when I played ac3 and I heard some soldiers during one mission talk about George Washington I kinda had a feeling we were on the enemy side and was proven right when it was revealed he was a Templar I wasn’t so surprised when I found that out

[@jotarokujo5543]

William knifeman, AHH

[@vizakofpurgatory3106]

Best character of all AC in my opinion

[@johnolsen8772]

Biggest pimp in the series, and he isn't even an assassin.

[@Meyphisto]

One of the best character

[@luckylucas7957]

I literally just beat this game a couple hours ago

[@rabronin]

There were a few clues to his true allegiance. One being the part at the end of the video. At the time, I thought for an "Assassin", his attitude is a little off lol

[@rafael_6924]

he was the best

[@TheSpartan451]

Because he has a personality

[@Jelly1525]

Why does the entire animation/voicing feels better than Valhalla?

[@SellingSouls]

Because 90% of the time the voice acting is in fact better than Valhalla. 🤭

[@AlphaKnight-hg2jq]

Its the hat

[@yellowlightsyndrome9959]

2:05 Why does he twist his wrist like that when he pours the drink?

[@Taxevader-gk9ms]

it's not that he was a bad character it's that we couldn't skip his part and play as Connor

[@megaharben]

The nod at 2:38

[@AndrewTaylorNintyuk]

How much does a Kenway? Slightly more than a Barbie

[@Nax95245]

i'm liking a lot of III, but rogue should been his own game, instead putting his whole chapter here.

[@jonathandiaz3338]

kenway was right, the templars were right also.. kenway could had killed connor but his dad instinct kicked in and let it happened,

[@jalenikezeue4114]

Were did Kenway learn how too fight like That

[@jacobaust7381]

I still don't understand why people like him

[@richardavelino7383]

All the Kenways are bastards. Even at their best 😂

[@bigpauly2703]

to bad the grandmasters of the templarorder always had to deal with idiots that ruin everything
robert de sable definetly an agreeable and very interesting character to bad some of his subordinants werent as wise and chose to be dumb assholes
rodrigo de borgia definetly an amazing and interesting leader to bad the rest of his family were deranged idiots
another interesting one i definetly would have wanted to see more about to bad his brother killed him
haytham well dont really need to say much haytham was the smart one once again and lee was the moron
i could continue but this coment is already long enough
( sorry if i might wrote some names wrong)

[@Akahara777]

everyone like him and he hate em!

[@ravensailiata]

Why is the remaster's visuals so terrible wtf. I 100% the original not too long ago and the remaster no matter what I look at has the worst lightening and face models I've ever seen. Everything looks like Mr Clean came through to give the game a whitewash

[@amiramri3032]

Why is it so bright?

[@SellingSouls]

That's how the remaster is.

[@DivineKnight_115]

Another character showing once again that the templars could have right choices and assassins could make wrong ones. Neither are the protagonist, just whoever you play as. Some are brutal but so are the assassins. I mean in syndicate they help save Karl Marx… bruh that dude rivals Hitler in ideology.

[@jmcantila9104]

Not really lil bro. Go actually read about the things Marxist ideology has inspired. Otherwise, it would've been more controversial to have a Karl Marx mission
Anyways, your point is still true. AC Rogue has this as its premise. Assassins ruthlessly chased artifacts without care for consequences on civilians

[@Myrid-in3si]

Only because his followers seem to take his philosophy in a bad way and took the evolution into devolution

[@simpsondr12]

​@@Myrid-in3si Ah, the good ole "No true Communist".

[@Myrid-in3si]

@@simpsondr12 don’t you mean no true Scotsman,
And dude how is Karl Marx a rival to Hitler?
Stalin and Lenin’s were the ones that respectively enabled and did the evil shit that rivals Hitler

[@BlazerPandaI]

@@simpsondr12what comes to mind for me is from Animal Farm, where “all are equal, some are just more equal than others”

[@Lee82420]

This is just me but i think Henry Cavill should play haythem kenway & Adam beach should play Connor in a AC3 movie

[@anshumannbele4373]

Adam beach is great but I think how about a guy who matches the body of Connor, and keep his face covered throughout because he's an assassin.
As for Haytham, someone like Colin Firth would be awesome