It's easy to do that from a far, but if they were actually working in those roles and the pressure is on and they see how hard it is, they would wish they never did it. They will be criticized from the fans the same way Tony gets criticized, and they won't like and would get upset with the fans for not agreeing with their take. They will see what it is like for Tony Khan.
@@mefjumathchuck4053 Yes, and it should be the opposite. WWE has been around 50 years, and are supposed to the best and have the best writers. They should be heavily criticized. AEW is still trying to find their way, and have only been around 5 years. If you take away the wasted COVID years, really 3 years.
@@therev_sungyungmoon24ugh the "young company" excuse again... dude, the boss have almost infinite money to have the best writers, the best producers, the best agents and the best wrestlers. The main problem is Tony and how he wants to cater to a small group of people that prefers work rate instead of compelling storylines. The best thing that could happen is him stepping away from creative but he is like Vince, the company is his baby so the creative will still be the same.
They say "let him cook" well Tony Khan burnt the 🥩 put too much salt and is soaking it with regular ketchup. The mash potatoes is lumping, has no seasoning and for some reason sour cream is used as gravy.
THANK YOU BULLY! I've been screaming for over a year about how underused HoB is and their booking. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND why HoB is not in major storylines and action at AEW..
Bur apparently the only one asking Renee WTF with Moxley is Eddie Kingston, his hubby is almost murder!ng Danielson and Chuck Taylor and yet she's happily doing backstage interviews without anybody questioning her 😅
@gregthegroove I was gonna ask the same thing lol. Stop what Tom?. I posted kind of the same thing, before seeing this. People are supposed to just ignore she's married to Roddy?
bull is the man dude always had fresh ideas that are all very possible story line wise and would be so fresh to be on live television i’d love to have a 1 on 1 with bully and talk wrestling all day
No individual wrestler can save AEW. Not Mox, not Danielson, not CM Punk... Only one person can save AEW and that's Tony Khan. Until he understand that what makes us as fans to turn in every week into the program are characters well developed and intriguing, good storylines the company will not and cannot be saved.
As long as they keep in ring wrestling the priority then yes , please make all those things better , but i for one do not want another company to try and copy WWE , WWE is so successful because of their lineage and history , if AEW goes WWE style they will lose the few faithful they have left , and no new fans are gonna watch a lesser WWE
@@pinroshan020 it feels like he's trying too hard to be as bad as possible so people could boo him. His character is not hateful he's just annoying and he even got rid of his best singing performance JUDAS.
In an unexpected twist in AEW's storyline, Tony Khan, the higher power heel, finds his grip on the company slipping away. In a shocking turn of events, a loophole in a contract signing reveals that Shane McMahon is now the true owner of AEW. This revelation sends shockwaves through the wrestling world, flipping the script on everything fans thought they knew. As Shane McMahon steps into his new role, he aligns himself with Jon Moxley and the Blackpool Combat Club (BCC). Instead of being the traditional heel, Shane positions himself as a savior for the company, claiming to restore AEW to its former glory. Moxley, who was once seen as a rebel against authority, now takes orders from Shane, creating a complex dynamic that keeps fans guessing. The BCC's disdain for WWE and their previous frustrations with Khan's booking decisions come to the forefront. They argue that under Khan's management, AEW had been mismanaged, leading the promotion down a path that threatened its very existence. Moxley and the BCC proclaim that they are the true defenders of AEW, fighting against the perceived chaos and disarray caused by Khan’s booking. This storyline not only sets the stage for intense rivalries but also opens up fresh narrative possibilities. The audience is left on the edge of their seats as they watch the BCC rally against a familiar adversary in WWE while simultaneously battling the remnants of Khan's regime. The dynamic of Moxley and Shane as unexpected allies challenges traditional wrestling tropes, creating a layered narrative that fans can’t wait to see unfold. As tensions rise, it becomes clear that the battle for AEW's soul is just beginning, with fans eager to see how this power struggle will play out in the ring and beyond.
This is not WWE's story line and they never had angle where the owner of a company had someone sign a contract between the 2 parties but the other person was sly by adding a stipulation that was hard to notice in that contract, that is way different from WWE stories of the past and I made this up myself so I should know
No, I want Tony Khan character, and Shane McMahon, the character nowhere near his story just let Moxley cook. There is no higher power. There is no business and loop holes and contracts. There is simply a man that sees the fire in the company that he loves starting to die down because the people in that company are comfortable with where they are and they are content with not moving and if you’re not moving, you will die
23:50 If Mox turned out to be the babyface, Bryan would be the heel. Mox had insight that Bryan was actually along side of say Shane McMahon, or whomever or whatever, and so he got ahead of it.
MY FKN GOD IS BULLY GOOD!!! THIS IS NOW THE THIRD TIME I HAVE LISTENED TO HIM INTERJECT INTO AN AEW STORYLINE AND MADE IT 100x BETTER!!! IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FKN CRIME THAT TONY HASN’T REACHED OUT TO HIRE BULLY AS A HEAD BOOKER BECAUSE I HONEST TO GOD THINK THAT HE COULD DRASTICALLY CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER IN AEW. I MEAN JUST LISTEN TO THE GUYS IDEAS. THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. 🤷🏼 AND TO BE HONEST MOST THINGS ARE NOT GOOD THAT THEY DO. TONY HAS DROOPED THE BALL WITH SO MANY STARS ITS UNREAL.
Unfortunately the Mox/Renee aspect that Bully talked about would never work for that audience. They would immediately start saying Tony shouldn’t be promoting domestic violence and then the people who hate AEW would double that sentiment online.
I simply just think it is bad taste to fake domestic violence to make a character gain more hate when the man has already crushed the next of two beloved Babyface wrestlers. AEW does not need to entertain the idea of marks that are in tune with the real lives of these wrestlers/characters not everything needs to be a story
@@hollaatquad3511 My thoughts exactly. That angle wouldn’t give AEW more eyes to the product. It will just turn people off and the cancel culture will come out instead. Exactly why WWE doesn’t do angle like that at all.
all companies go up and down and wwe also had its day of being unpopular. I expect AEW to break outta their slump but it will be difficult. Kenny Omega is a guy who has a ton of feuds ready when he’s back and the fans love him. It is a team effort.
i like what bully and dave are cooking up. would be the best thing aew ever put on. but i just dont care about AEW anymore which is heartbreaking because they brought me back to wrestling after 20 years. ive seen nothing post Punk remotely interesting.
Why would he want to work for that dumpster fire when he has a Legend's contract w WWE and a good gig w Busted Open. He was great last night in NXT at Halloween Havoc
Yes, AEW need to keep building this Jon Moxley and the BCC invasion storyline long-term just like the Bloodline storyline in WWE to bring in the casual audience.
Starting 2019, I was as excited as any wrestling fan on earth about the formation of AEW. They’ve tried their best to make me give up on them over the years, esp the last 2 years. I’m still trying to like it… but if they try to push Orange Cassidy as the guy to lead AEW & topple Moxley’s group, I’ll finally lose my last sliver of hope for this company.
I agree with you on that especially since we seen OC vs BBC plenty of times already. I think they should turn OC heel after what happened or hope it leads that way instead.
Here's how I think Mox's team vs. AEW, with Eddie Kingston leading AEW into battle, could also go. It's a given that he has history with Mox's group, especially Claudio, and he also has heat with The Elite. How about The Elite and Mox's crew using Eddie as a common enemy and forming an unholy alliance? And how about FTR joining them after turning on The Outrunners and revealing that they never wanted Eddie on Team AEW, but only allowed it because that was what Danielson wanted? It could go any possible way, but the common denominator that could lead to this alliance is Eddie. Just my observation.
AEW fans remind me a lot of the people who held on to Bed, Bath, & Beyond stock. Despite reality, they still believed that everything was okay. They'd ask critics "why do you hate this company?" and "why don't you want people to have jobs?" They'd look for cope everywhere they could find it to reassure themselves that their loyalty wasn't foolish. They insulated themselves into their own community and created a toxic positivity feedback loop where everything was great all the time. They'd try to convince everyone online that the company was actually thriving despite record low sales. They'd lash out at critics and said that they had an agenda. They also had their own Meltzer's spinning news in their favor. When they do the autopsy on this company, whenever it folds, they really need to examine the fanbase.
I like Bully's idea. But Tommy's of Sting being involved could work too. Have Sting come out, BCC goes to attack him, lights go out, come back on, House of Black. They fight off BCC and use some type of twisted respect for Sting, to fight BCC
Bully needs to be signed as a co writer or creative director. He’d improve the product so much. Unfortunately I think his ideas would be so opposite of Tony khan and his preference for pushing smaller guys/international wrestlers
100% right Bully. AEW/Tony doesn’t know how to go all in 100% Take his broken neck angle. The best part of that was his dad coming out. What did they do for a follow up? Zero. They can’t get it over because they don’t even try man. Tony wants us to put 2 and 2 together. Like it’s imaginative. This Renee angle I’ve wanted this since the beginning. Real life stories. Real life drama. Toni Storm/Mariah was awesome. Swerve/Hangman was awesome. Why? It was real life. It’s like not even hard to do. Tony should just rip this off (of course telling him), he should totally do this. This can be saved and done. But they gotta start before it fizzles out. They need more main stream main eventers involved to keep it moving along. Shane McMahon should be the end all of this.
Problem with the baby face heel concept in aew is Tony doesn’t book that way. Tony books what we wants to see and you constantly see heels feuding with heels. Someone turns kind of baby face one month and the next they are heel again.
Tony doesn’t book in the typical wrestling construct of a heel and a baby face for example someone like swerve depending on his opponent will act different because that’s how life is.
I agree with Bully that House of Black been underrated and not showcase enough. However they are better as heels so the angle won’t work. Eddie Kingston is hurt so wish they spend more time naming guys who can be the babyface. Going against Jon Moxley in the next couple of weeks instead.
I'm going to answer Bully's question. The villain should be Tony Khan himself. He was too weak to stop the Young Bucks and they embarrassed him on tv. Team AEW failed to get control back. Sting retired. Darby wants to climb mountains. Bryan Danielson retired. Jericho claims to love Tony but steals tv time instead of helping out the boss. MJF keeps threatening to leave unless he gets more money and more opportunities. All of Tony's allies are too busy goofing off or wanting to do other things than fight for his company. So he turns to Mox and says " By any means necessary, I need this to stop. You have championed AEW since Day 1. You have been the world champion. You tried to stop this once, and I know you can do it if you have my support. Do whatever you have to do - stab your best friend in the back, make your loved ones question your character, and surround yourself with as many badasses as it takes to become an unstoppable force. Do this for me, and I will make sure you and your family is set for life. The ends will justify the means." Then when Mox cleans house (creating other stars in the process) and finally gives Tony his company back, Tony fires him. Backs out on his promise. Boom - Moxley becomes a babyface but needs a way back into AEW to get everything he was promised. Enter Shane McMahon.
Yeah when Mox came out on collision and the crowd cheered i wasn't a fan of that. They need to boo the fuck outta him but Mox is so beloved that he's not getting the heat he should be getting even tho he murdered the most beloved man in professional wrestling.
They will never make me hate Jon Moxley, he is simply doing what is best for AEW 🧐 The only one who could really face him and win would be Kenny Omega 🔥
I honestly prefer Mox as a Heel And the HOB for some reason is always face!! If they could find a way to get the HOB agitated enough to care then you have a battle...and the only reason I can see that is for the all the gold and control of the show!
Bully man you giving AEW lay ups all the time !!! They need to take notes ! Need to use these ideas you been putting out because it's fucking diamonds coming out your mouth every time !
Every wrestler in Aew has to work together especially the EVP and the CEO they should not be holding on to them Titles they should be giving other wrestler chance just like Cody did when he was in charge he gave other wrestler a chance
Moxley getting everybody ready cause here comes Shane M. and MVP is getting a group of former WWE people together like Mone, Ricochet and getting the House of Black would be awesome as well.
AEW is the underdog and the biggest underdog in AEW is Derby Allin. He should be the face of AEW but you need to produce him and keep him away from his terrible ideas. Stop giving the wrestlers the power to do what they want
Mox wants the wrestlers in AEW to be like caterpillars and come out of their cocoons as butterflies. Unfortunately, w/ Tony Khan in charge, the best they’ll emerge as is moths.
@@hollaatquad3511 I watched AEW for a couple of years, but it honestly got so boring I couldn’t watch full shows. So, I started watching UA-cam clips. Then, THOSE became tough to watch because for a lot of the wrestlers if you’ve seen one match, you’ve seen them all. So, I stopped watching the clips. Now, I pop in every once in a while to see if it’s changed or improved and… yah. Only a handful of wrestlers that are interesting. The rest are so cringe or just plain boring that it’s impossible to watch. But, I DO love how people say, “If you don’t like it, don’t watch it!” And… that’s what’s been happening. LOL!
Tony has 3-5 stories on the table that he could refine and market, but through ignorance or selfishness he declines time and time again to do right by these wrestlers and make them the stars they deserve to be. MJF got a damn tattoo of the company on him for Christ's sake.
Im 50/50 on mox in aew theres thungs i like then theres stuff i didn't i never understood why he had that theme song just think this version of mox i think would do better in wwe right now
I liken Bully’s stance on getting Moxley over as a heel is just like in the Sopranos, when they had to get Ralphie Cifaretto over as a heel so he had to kill that girl Tracee. They have to get real life involved.
He is the savior, Eddie Kingston is embarrassing, to watch as a topnguy and orange Cassidy is unbelievable as a top guy....., darby is way too small to believe cam take on these big guys,
I disagree, Both OC, and Darby have proven themselves to be believable future World Champions. I am disgusted when I see/hear comments from people like yall, saying "They're too small!", like we're going to pretend that, Hall of Famer, Ray Mysterio, or Underdogs like Brian Danielson don't exist. Orange was a fantastic, Internatinal Champ and Darby was an incredible TNT Champ. They can pull it off. The only ligit counter argument you can use against these two, is Kingston, because of the history between them. However, for the sake of long term storytelling, it has to be Darby Allin, he's earned it by now.
But a broken down skinny old dude that couldnt even walk to the ring and was injured more than not injured was? You guys dont care about wrestling and ability. You live in Vinces world of what is believable. A 275 lb dude with a 32 movset that does siuplexs and spears for 10 minutes, cant handle the mic, and is nothing but a commercial
Disagree about Mox. Darby or Kenny would work better. Darby especially considering he seems like someone who is highly ever unlikely to be hired by the WWE. Keep in mind that Darby was homeless before he was signed with AEW. Plus, if they did make Mox the ultimate babyface in this story, then everyone would complain that the company is pushing a former WWE talent. Not pushing enough home grown stars. Eddie Kingston would actually be an ideal leader to save AEW considering he's just as unlikely to get signed by WWE as Darby is. Maybe even moreso. And he has the mic skills to rally the troops in this storyline. This isn't meant to be a knock against either Eddie or Darby. Far from it! They are a perfect fit to represent the company.
The answer is nobody..... No individual male or female will save AEW. It's going to take a multitude of wrestlers combined w interesting TV storylines and compelling PPVs over an extended period of time. If you think some free agent WWE or otherwise is gonna move the needle just look at the last 4 years.
If anyone is going to be the face of AEW in the savior of AEW against Jon Moxley and the BCC it has to be Kenny Omega he’s an original. He’s a EVP, and he already has a past with Jon
We hear all the criticism of Tony Khan. Truth is he’s been criticized from day 1. I think he listened to the fans too much. Tried to change and hurt his own product. What made AEW popular wasn’t new wrestlers showing up, it was the idea you didn’t know what to expect from week to week. That’s where they miss Cody. He got squashed twice on live tv. Brodie Lee and Malachi Black. AEW has storylines but they’ve also become too predictable. Started with the Devil angle. Get back to being unpredictable and forget anyone who complains about gang wars, run ins and brawls. That’s how ECW got popular
I’ve heard enough! I’m starting a petition to get Bully and Tommy as heads of aew creative. Fix that shit.
Let's start the petition now!
It's easy to do that from a far, but if they were actually working in those roles and the pressure is on and they see how hard it is, they would wish they never did it. They will be criticized from the fans the same way Tony gets criticized, and they won't like and would get upset with the fans for not agreeing with their take. They will see what it is like for Tony Khan.
@@therev_sungyungmoon24 At some you are right and I think that people from AEW are more criticized than creatives from WWE
@@mefjumathchuck4053 Yes, and it should be the opposite. WWE has been around 50 years, and are supposed to the best and have the best writers. They should be heavily criticized. AEW is still trying to find their way, and have only been around 5 years. If you take away the wasted COVID years, really 3 years.
@@therev_sungyungmoon24ugh the "young company" excuse again... dude, the boss have almost infinite money to have the best writers, the best producers, the best agents and the best wrestlers. The main problem is Tony and how he wants to cater to a small group of people that prefers work rate instead of compelling storylines. The best thing that could happen is him stepping away from creative but he is like Vince, the company is his baby so the creative will still be the same.
Bully need to be head writer at aew I was digging his direction for the angle
Bully Ray has a Paul Heyman mind….
Bully just came up with something 10x better than what aew will actually do lol
Bubba delivers again 👍
Sad part is only people left dont care about good stories just high work rate.
Tony Kahn is the heel
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
WWF got more lawsuits the hhh lap rider sheep cry me a river 😂🎉
Tony Khan is the Jerry Jones of wrestling
💯
They say "let him cook" well Tony Khan burnt the 🥩 put too much salt and is soaking it with regular ketchup.
The mash potatoes is lumping, has no seasoning and for some reason sour cream is used as gravy.
THANK YOU BULLY! I've been screaming for over a year about how underused HoB is and their booking. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND why HoB is not in major storylines and action at AEW..
They were friends with Punk
Aj Styles did a similar thing back in TNA and was fighting for something that the fans or the TNA wrestlers didn't see.
I hope AEW writers are listening to this man!
Context - Marina is married to Roderick Strong. If you do the Rene/Mox angle, that other relationship has to be addressed too
Bur apparently the only one asking Renee WTF with Moxley is Eddie Kingston, his hubby is almost murder!ng Danielson and Chuck Taylor and yet she's happily doing backstage interviews without anybody questioning her 😅
Stop
He’ll yea, even better. Stop what Tom? This is a great idea.
@gregthegroove I was gonna ask the same thing lol. Stop what Tom?. I posted kind of the same thing, before seeing this. People are supposed to just ignore she's married to Roddy?
bull is the man dude always had fresh ideas that are all very possible story line wise and would be so fresh to be on live television i’d love to have a 1 on 1 with bully and talk wrestling all day
Why doesn't Bully Ray have a job with creative at AEW????
Because TK only wants yes men to nod and agree with him and Bully would only tell him the truth when something sucks and Tony doesn't want that.
Nothing but Ham&Eggers there!!!!!! I have tried to watch!!!❤️✌🏼
No individual wrestler can save AEW. Not Mox, not Danielson, not CM Punk... Only one person can save AEW and that's Tony Khan. Until he understand that what makes us as fans to turn in every week into the program are characters well developed and intriguing, good storylines the company will not and cannot be saved.
As long as they keep in ring wrestling the priority then yes , please make all those things better , but i for one do not want another company to try and copy WWE , WWE is so successful because of their lineage and history , if AEW goes WWE style they will lose the few faithful they have left , and no new fans are gonna watch a lesser WWE
Dont forget jericho saved aew once but now people are sick of him because of being in thr creative team.
They just got a $700M tv deal 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I think they’re doing alright
@@pinroshan020 it feels like he's trying too hard to be as bad as possible so people could boo him. His character is not hateful he's just annoying and he even got rid of his best singing performance JUDAS.
@@Onyyyxx Yeah I agree
Very good idea from this legend 😊 Hope that everybody takes notes 😀
In an unexpected twist in AEW's storyline, Tony Khan, the higher power heel, finds his grip on the company slipping away. In a shocking turn of events, a loophole in a contract signing reveals that Shane McMahon is now the true owner of AEW. This revelation sends shockwaves through the wrestling world, flipping the script on everything fans thought they knew.
As Shane McMahon steps into his new role, he aligns himself with Jon Moxley and the Blackpool Combat Club (BCC). Instead of being the traditional heel, Shane positions himself as a savior for the company, claiming to restore AEW to its former glory. Moxley, who was once seen as a rebel against authority, now takes orders from Shane, creating a complex dynamic that keeps fans guessing.
The BCC's disdain for WWE and their previous frustrations with Khan's booking decisions come to the forefront. They argue that under Khan's management, AEW had been mismanaged, leading the promotion down a path that threatened its very existence. Moxley and the BCC proclaim that they are the true defenders of AEW, fighting against the perceived chaos and disarray caused by Khan’s booking.
This storyline not only sets the stage for intense rivalries but also opens up fresh narrative possibilities. The audience is left on the edge of their seats as they watch the BCC rally against a familiar adversary in WWE while simultaneously battling the remnants of Khan's regime. The dynamic of Moxley and Shane as unexpected allies challenges traditional wrestling tropes, creating a layered narrative that fans can’t wait to see unfold.
As tensions rise, it becomes clear that the battle for AEW's soul is just beginning, with fans eager to see how this power struggle will play out in the ring and beyond.
That's WWE's storyline. Welcome to why AEW is sinking now
This is not WWE's story line and they never had angle where the owner of a company had someone sign a contract between the 2 parties but the other person was sly by adding a stipulation that was hard to notice in that contract, that is way different from WWE stories of the past and I made this up myself so I should know
The contract was supposed to be a partnership, but it went horribly wrong, and that is what is in the brief case Moxley is your new EVP under Shane
No, I want Tony Khan character, and Shane McMahon, the character nowhere near his story just let Moxley cook. There is no higher power. There is no business and loop holes and contracts. There is simply a man that sees the fire in the company that he loves starting to die down because the people in that company are comfortable with where they are and they are content with not moving and if you’re not moving, you will die
Um NO that would be awful. Shane McMahon would actually make Every single true AEW fan Not see this company as the alternative to WWE
How about Adam Copeland comes back and the House of Black joins him to fight the BCC. And if Marina interfers then bring out Beth Phoenix :)
Apparently that’s what the plan before he got injured
Sting also fought off The Dangerous Alliance in WCW.
Bully is the best story teller in wrestling
Bully should be involve in creative some how if I were a ceo I would hire him asap his ideas are always fresh
23:50 If Mox turned out to be the babyface, Bryan would be the heel. Mox had insight that Bryan was actually along side of say Shane McMahon, or whomever or whatever, and so he got ahead of it.
Y’all need to give up the Shane McMahon shit he’s not coming any. If he did come it would be a horrible idea.
Why isn't aew throwing money at Bully already?
Bully is a genius
MY FKN GOD IS BULLY GOOD!!! THIS IS NOW THE THIRD TIME I HAVE LISTENED TO HIM INTERJECT INTO AN AEW STORYLINE AND MADE IT 100x BETTER!!! IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FKN CRIME THAT TONY HASN’T REACHED OUT TO HIRE BULLY AS A HEAD BOOKER BECAUSE I HONEST TO GOD THINK THAT HE COULD DRASTICALLY CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER IN AEW. I MEAN JUST LISTEN TO THE GUYS IDEAS. THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. 🤷🏼 AND TO BE HONEST MOST THINGS ARE NOT GOOD THAT THEY DO. TONY HAS DROOPED THE BALL WITH SO MANY STARS ITS UNREAL.
Unfortunately the Mox/Renee aspect that Bully talked about would never work for that audience. They would immediately start saying Tony shouldn’t be promoting domestic violence and then the people who hate AEW would double that sentiment online.
That is what I was saying. No one is trying to watch no love quarrel going on. Lol 😆 😊
I simply just think it is bad taste to fake domestic violence to make a character gain more hate when the man has already crushed the next of two beloved Babyface wrestlers. AEW does not need to entertain the idea of marks that are in tune with the real lives of these wrestlers/characters not everything needs to be a story
@@hollaatquad3511 My thoughts exactly. That angle wouldn’t give AEW more eyes to the product. It will just turn people off and the cancel culture will come out instead.
Exactly why WWE doesn’t do angle like that at all.
Bully!! That story line is En Fuego!!!
Gotta love Bully's resting pissed off face!!😂
all companies go up and down and wwe also had its day of being unpopular. I expect AEW to break outta their slump but it will be difficult. Kenny Omega is a guy who has a ton of feuds ready when he’s back and the fans love him. It is a team effort.
Their winning story was camp Buck vs Camp Punk. But Tony had to flush that away
No Punk's inability to keep his mouth shut is what flushed that.
House of Black vs The Hurt Business
That would be awesome, but not right away. That needs to be built into a collision.
No no no no no.....................Sucked in Impact, sucked in WWE............
Ayo can someone please give Bully a fucking job as a booker. His ideas are fucking awesome.
i like what bully and dave are cooking up. would be the best thing aew ever put on. but i just dont care about AEW anymore which is heartbreaking because they brought me back to wrestling after 20 years. ive seen nothing post Punk remotely interesting.
Why would he want to work for that dumpster fire when he has a Legend's contract w WWE and a good gig w Busted Open. He was great last night in NXT at Halloween Havoc
HAHAHAHHAA at putting Orange Cassidy in the thumbnail 😂 LOL
Yes, AEW need to keep building this Jon Moxley and the BCC invasion storyline long-term just like the Bloodline storyline in WWE to bring in the casual audience.
That MJF x Adam Cole storyline that they’re trying to do is pre-2019 WWE level bad at this point
First of all, the storyline just started and this is classic MJF how is this WWE at all? Are you actually watching the show?
The "savior" of A.E.W.?,...That would be the channel selector on your remote!!.
Sounds like pro wrestling isn’t your thing. Try the fed
@@AngelTigerDriver no,...pro wrestling isn't aew or tony Kahn's thing...lol
Bully gives so much better storyline ideas that is everything.
Starting 2019, I was as excited as any wrestling fan on earth about the formation of AEW. They’ve tried their best to make me give up on them over the years, esp the last 2 years. I’m still trying to like it… but if they try to push Orange Cassidy as the guy to lead AEW & topple Moxley’s group, I’ll finally lose my last sliver of hope for this company.
I agree with you on that especially since we seen OC vs BBC plenty of times already.
I think they should turn OC heel after what happened or hope it leads that way instead.
Wow Billy Ray that story line awesome insane great story
Here's how I think Mox's team vs. AEW, with Eddie Kingston leading AEW into battle, could also go. It's a given that he has history with Mox's group, especially Claudio, and he also has heat with The Elite. How about The Elite and Mox's crew using Eddie as a common enemy and forming an unholy alliance? And how about FTR joining them after turning on The Outrunners and revealing that they never wanted Eddie on Team AEW, but only allowed it because that was what Danielson wanted? It could go any possible way, but the common denominator that could lead to this alliance is Eddie. Just my observation.
Thank you Bully Ray
AEW fans remind me a lot of the people who held on to Bed, Bath, & Beyond stock. Despite reality, they still believed that everything was okay. They'd ask critics "why do you hate this company?" and "why don't you want people to have jobs?" They'd look for cope everywhere they could find it to reassure themselves that their loyalty wasn't foolish. They insulated themselves into their own community and created a toxic positivity feedback loop where everything was great all the time. They'd try to convince everyone online that the company was actually thriving despite record low sales. They'd lash out at critics and said that they had an agenda. They also had their own Meltzer's spinning news in their favor. When they do the autopsy on this company, whenever it folds, they really need to examine the fanbase.
I like Bully's idea. But Tommy's of Sting being involved could work too. Have Sting come out, BCC goes to attack him, lights go out, come back on, House of Black. They fight off BCC and use some type of twisted respect for Sting, to fight BCC
I hope Kenny returns next week to help Private Party take the titles away from the Young Bucks
Bully needs to be signed as a co writer or creative director. He’d improve the product so much. Unfortunately I think his ideas would be so opposite of Tony khan and his preference for pushing smaller guys/international wrestlers
Bully says anything and daves response is always i agree lol
100% right Bully. AEW/Tony doesn’t know how to go all in 100% Take his broken neck angle. The best part of that was his dad coming out. What did they do for a follow up? Zero. They can’t get it over because they don’t even try man. Tony wants us to put 2 and 2 together. Like it’s imaginative. This Renee angle I’ve wanted this since the beginning. Real life stories. Real life drama. Toni Storm/Mariah was awesome. Swerve/Hangman was awesome. Why? It was real life. It’s like not even hard to do. Tony should just rip this off (of course telling him), he should totally do this. This can be saved and done. But they gotta start before it fizzles out. They need more main stream main eventers involved to keep it moving along. Shane McMahon should be the end all of this.
Problem with the baby face heel concept in aew is Tony doesn’t book that way. Tony books what we wants to see and you constantly see heels feuding with heels. Someone turns kind of baby face one month and the next they are heel again.
Tony doesn’t book in the typical wrestling construct of a heel and a baby face for example someone like swerve depending on his opponent will act different because that’s how life is.
Bully Ray for President 😎💯
NXT soundly thumped Dynamite in viewership
I agree with Bully that House of Black been underrated and not showcase enough. However they are better as heels so the angle won’t work.
Eddie Kingston is hurt so wish they spend more time naming guys who can be the babyface. Going against Jon Moxley in the next couple of weeks instead.
I'm going to answer Bully's question. The villain should be Tony Khan himself. He was too weak to stop the Young Bucks and they embarrassed him on tv. Team AEW failed to get control back. Sting retired. Darby wants to climb mountains. Bryan Danielson retired. Jericho claims to love Tony but steals tv time instead of helping out the boss. MJF keeps threatening to leave unless he gets more money and more opportunities. All of Tony's allies are too busy goofing off or wanting to do other things than fight for his company. So he turns to Mox and says " By any means necessary, I need this to stop. You have championed AEW since Day 1. You have been the world champion. You tried to stop this once, and I know you can do it if you have my support. Do whatever you have to do - stab your best friend in the back, make your loved ones question your character, and surround yourself with as many badasses as it takes to become an unstoppable force. Do this for me, and I will make sure you and your family is set for life. The ends will justify the means." Then when Mox cleans house (creating other stars in the process) and finally gives Tony his company back, Tony fires him. Backs out on his promise. Boom - Moxley becomes a babyface but needs a way back into AEW to get everything he was promised. Enter Shane McMahon.
BULLY RAY BE COOKING ON 450 with his ideas
Yeah when Mox came out on collision and the crowd cheered i wasn't a fan of that. They need to boo the fuck outta him but Mox is so beloved that he's not getting the heat he should be getting even tho he murdered the most beloved man in professional wrestling.
People cheered the NWO back in the day
One of my question is are they ever going to have Roddy Strong get involved and ask wtf his wife is doing with Mox and the white tshirt gang
They will never make me hate Jon Moxley, he is simply doing what is best for AEW 🧐
The only one who could really face him and win would be Kenny Omega 🔥
I honestly prefer Mox as a Heel
And the HOB for some reason is always face!!
If they could find a way to get the HOB agitated enough to care then you have a battle...and the only reason I can see that is for the all the gold and control of the show!
Bully man you giving AEW lay ups all the time !!! They need to take notes ! Need to use these ideas you been putting out because it's fucking diamonds coming out your mouth every time !
Every wrestler in Aew has to work together especially the EVP and the CEO they should not be holding on to them Titles they should be giving other wrestler chance just like Cody did when he was in charge he gave other wrestler a chance
I think Roddy Strong got swindled in Wife Swap. Lol
I don't know why Roddy Strong isn't joining in that conversation between Mox and Renee once Marina faces off with Renee
Moxley getting everybody ready cause here comes Shane M. and MVP is getting a group of former WWE people together like Mone, Ricochet and getting the House of Black would be awesome as well.
The Midcard world order ?
AEW is the underdog and the biggest underdog in AEW is Derby Allin. He should be the face of AEW but you need to produce him and keep him away from his terrible ideas. Stop giving the wrestlers the power to do what they want
How about Edge? I don’t know how his leg is doing but he seems fit to create a faction against BCC
Mox wants the wrestlers in AEW to be like caterpillars and come out of their cocoons as butterflies. Unfortunately, w/ Tony Khan in charge, the best they’ll emerge as is moths.
Did you just use the storyline to shit on Tony Kahn stop watching wrestling😂
@@hollaatquad3511 I watched AEW for a couple of years, but it honestly got so boring I couldn’t watch full shows. So, I started watching UA-cam clips. Then, THOSE became tough to watch because for a lot of the wrestlers if you’ve seen one match, you’ve seen them all. So, I stopped watching the clips. Now, I pop in every once in a while to see if it’s changed or improved and… yah. Only a handful of wrestlers that are interesting. The rest are so cringe or just plain boring that it’s impossible to watch.
But, I DO love how people say, “If you don’t like it, don’t watch it!” And… that’s what’s been happening. LOL!
If TK sees this make it happen cut no corners.
Bobby Lashley and the new version of the hurt business, calling it now.
But they say Bully is biased towards WWE and always bashes AEW 😂
Bully idea is good but I won't do a regular AEW sit-down. Do the her interview on her podcast bur the lines a little and add the rest what Bully said
I was gonna watch Dynamite but when I saw that Jericho had won the ROH championship. Jericho books himself!
Tony has 3-5 stories on the table that he could refine and market, but through ignorance or selfishness he declines time and time again to do right by these wrestlers and make them the stars they deserve to be. MJF got a damn tattoo of the company on him for Christ's sake.
Im 50/50 on mox in aew theres thungs i like then theres stuff i didn't i never understood why he had that theme song just think this version of mox i think would do better in wwe right now
I liken Bully’s stance on getting Moxley over as a heel is just like in the Sopranos, when they had to get Ralphie Cifaretto over as a heel so he had to kill that girl Tracee. They have to get real life involved.
Bruh I wanna watch bully's AEW booking
You could have them get involved with the Kingdom also. Shafir is married to Roddy
Bobby lashley and the hurt business could be the heels
Shane McMahon
He is the savior, Eddie Kingston is embarrassing, to watch as a topnguy and orange Cassidy is unbelievable as a top guy....., darby is way too small to believe cam take on these big guys,
Correct
I disagree, Both OC, and Darby have proven themselves to be believable future World Champions.
I am disgusted when I see/hear comments from people like yall, saying "They're too small!", like we're going to pretend that, Hall of Famer, Ray Mysterio, or Underdogs like Brian Danielson don't exist.
Orange was a fantastic, Internatinal Champ and Darby was an incredible TNT Champ. They can pull it off. The only ligit counter argument you can use against these two, is Kingston, because of the history between them. However, for the sake of long term storytelling, it has to be Darby Allin, he's earned it by now.
But a broken down skinny old dude that couldnt even walk to the ring and was injured more than not injured was? You guys dont care about wrestling and ability. You live in Vinces world of what is believable. A 275 lb dude with a 32 movset that does siuplexs and spears for 10 minutes, cant handle the mic, and is nothing but a commercial
Bro, just watch WWE😂
You act like some guys in Wwe aren’t that small
How about Moxley getting everybody ready for an MVP Hurt Business invasion. MVP is getting quite a few people together.....
Thats my thinking
The House Of Black lost in a PPV against The Acclaimed with Billy Gunn, so much for the "who can beat this three wrestlers?" 😅
The Savior can only be The Final Boss
Sheldon Cooper!
Only The Rock thinks that is the case. He's as much needed anymore for 30 minute promos, as Jungle Cruise 2 is needed, period
@@mikelachey824 you clearly didn’t read my entire comment 😂
Im glad that moxley would be a savior. Storyline wise, I'd make em as a pillar of the company
he doesn't move the needle. He's a fringe star
He hasn't been able to save aew in 5 years that's not going to change now
Unfortunately, don't think House of Black will be pushed. I think Black and Murphy would prefer to go back to WWE. So Tony probably won't push them
Mox is preparing for Bobby Lashley. Lol
Disagree about Mox.
Darby or Kenny would work better. Darby especially considering he seems like someone who is highly ever unlikely to be hired by the WWE. Keep in mind that Darby was homeless before he was signed with AEW. Plus, if they did make Mox the ultimate babyface in this story, then everyone would complain that the company is pushing a former WWE talent. Not pushing enough home grown stars. Eddie Kingston would actually be an ideal leader to save AEW considering he's just as unlikely to get signed by WWE as Darby is. Maybe even moreso. And he has the mic skills to rally the troops in this storyline.
This isn't meant to be a knock against either Eddie or Darby. Far from it! They are a perfect fit to represent the company.
3 waves , fighting bully's aces and eights
The answer is nobody.....
No individual male or female will save AEW. It's going to take a multitude of wrestlers combined w interesting TV storylines and compelling PPVs over an extended period of time. If you think some free agent WWE or otherwise is gonna move the needle just look at the last 4 years.
If you want Moxley to be hated, fill the area with Jim Cornett's!
Maybe its just faction war. There doesnt need to be one hero. Hurt locker, bcc, team aew, elite in 4 way cage match
I hope that they let them have more freedom and sense then the Adam Cole and MJF storyline
I could see Kenny making his return at World's End...making him the Savior
The guys whose segments drew the lowest ratings during the show? People changed the channel any time Omega and the Old Bucks came onscreen
If anyone is going to be the face of AEW in the savior of AEW against Jon Moxley and the BCC it has to be Kenny Omega he’s an original. He’s a EVP, and he already has a past with Jon
its bobby lasher and here is because he did ink a deal with aew recently
Where is the Dracula guy!!!!!
This is busted open not the observer lol
Not saviours, but where tf are Scorpio Sky and Ricky Starks?
We hear all the criticism of Tony Khan. Truth is he’s been criticized from day 1. I think he listened to the fans too much. Tried to change and hurt his own product. What made AEW popular wasn’t new wrestlers showing up, it was the idea you didn’t know what to expect from week to week. That’s where they miss Cody. He got squashed twice on live tv. Brodie Lee and Malachi Black. AEW has storylines but they’ve also become too predictable. Started with the Devil angle. Get back to being unpredictable and forget anyone who complains about gang wars, run ins and brawls. That’s how ECW got popular
Bubba came up with a cool idea.
Orrrrrrr....... Renee is the mastermind 😱😱😱😱
First ever husband/ wife barbed wire death match and mox comes out in a stained wife beater.
When will Tommy fix his wallpaper?
OC is the Sting in this story