Yeah, I've moved away from the deluxe editions in Kickstarter/crowdfunding. Actually, I've been backing fewer games in general because of my collection size. I need to be a little more picky in my purchases.
Yet another great video. Yes, I was saying that despite being a huge 2 players game, Rebellion - unlike the others - is all about hidden movement. (Very thematic and personally I recommend adding the expansion right with the first game). There is one game which I wonder what will be your experience with (although your table seems fully booked): Primal The Awakening Can't wait for your triple Lord of the Rings comparison!
Oh my gosh, yes! Literally every CMON game I've ever looked into... or most of IVStudios games. All thriller no filler. I feel that deluxe editions just have been less and less enticing as the years go on. CoH 2E might be the last All In I ever purchase. But Primal, Thunder Road Vendetta, so many other games I've purchased all ins for and they just end up being such a hassle or not worth the effort. But damn, I JUST bought a used copy of Merchants of the Dark Road.... still excited to try it but sad that you found it disappointing. At least I got it for cheap so if I don't like it I can maybe make some money on it! I was close to backing Luthier because I liked Distilled a lot but the price is just too ridiculous. There's honestly no reason to back any of these games. There are so many people making this mistake that end up selling their backed games for cheaper or close to what the pledge cost was. If you wait you can just buy them later. I'm pretty sad I missed the campaign for Imperial Borders but if it ends up being good hopefully I can snag a copy of it later down the road. Fantastic vid! Thanks for putting it together!
Look, that was just my experience with Merchants of the Dark Road. And for 50€ I don't even regret trying it. I hope you'll find it better than I did! These games like Luthier lose their value VERY quickly. It's very rare that a game now days hold its value.. I'll make sure to cover Imperial Borders in a way that will help you decide if it is for you or not.. I'll keep you updated brother ❤️
Many computer games do not transition well to board games. Computers are good at running a lot of stuff behind the scenes, and having lots of detail in memory. But in a boardgame, one of the players has to set up the decks of cards, place all of the chits & tokens, roll & count the dice, pull out the box and rules for the next scenario, etc. It is work that takes away from the fun of playing.
Completely agree with you! I did a while ago a video for my favorite board games that are based on video games. Since then, nothing really has changed 😅
I know Theurgy 😅 also sitting on my shelf of shame. I end up selling most of my kickstarters, but keep on pushing the deluxe pledge button 🙈. I recently started watching playthroughs and reading the rules before pledging and am backing way less.
I'm ready to bet that Star Wars Rebellion will stay in your collection 😁 For comparing WOTR with Dune: WFA I'm eager to see that video but for me both are like comparing apple and oranges... when I play both they feel worlds apart... I think it's the lenght of the game and the theme. Even if they have mechanics that resembles a little they feel unique. Thanks for the vid messieur de paris 😜
Mdr avec plaisir mon ami! I'm not saying that there's no place for both games in a collection of course.. but they are VERY similar. I'll make the comparison and we'll see ;)
Totally agree with you about the KS prices/deluxification. Deluxification normally means bump up the prices even for the base pledge... A standard price manipulation strategy War of the ring the card game is another complete different experience from the board game. Not as epic but still, in my opinion, very very good, very interesting mechanics with the card management and a very tight game The head to head fantasy game family is finally united again 😂 the expansion for sw rb is kinda a must have, the epic feeling is still presente without it but it fixes the combat and gives you more replayability. I'm still searching for my Dune 😢 You are tempering me with the Dark Ages! Please stop 😂 Have a good week!
I love when you comment on my videos ❤️ I really can't wait to play the card game and tomorrow I have a session of War of the Ring. Can't wait!! I hope you'll get Dune. It is a really good one and I appreciate it even more now. Dark Ages.... you'll be doing yourself a favor my friend ;)
@@ezbgames be prepared to the rolling frustration for tomorrow 🤣 It's always a pleasure comment your awesome content! Really like your videos/opinions! Keep strong my friend!
I played War of the ring the card game once (as the humans/elves) and i had the very strong feeling that the deck is quite "scripted": there is an ideal sequence how the cards should be played and how good you can do is strictly dependent by how close you draw cards to play that script. Of course you have to manage your hand and weight the combats but I did not find it personally really exciting.
@@ezbgames yes I do. It is a very small one with just a few items that I made mostly as board games aficionado/player rather than being a real business itself
Goddammit man, I told you I had sold off my Dark Ages...But hearing you talk about it in that video and this, I find myself looking at it again! At least if I find it at a deal or someone local wanna trade, I might have to give it a second go. Wouldnt be the first time ive bought-sold-bought a game. Most of these games leaving or entering ive never played but your reasons are sound. Have you looked at either "Triumph" by PHALANX, or "Tiny Epic Game of Thrones"? Ive backed both of them for different reasons, would love to hear what you think of them. I see that beautiful box in your shelf down at the bottom left though! Looking forward to hear your thoughts about it!
Hahaha I'm telling you.. Dark Ages in my opinion is THAT good!! I wouldn't recommend it or buying the other box otherwise.. I backed Triumph so waiting for it 😎 You're talking about Anunnaki? It will hit my table soon I hope after I finish with War of the Ring
@@ezbgames I was spotting Warrior Knight! Its one of my all-time favourites so im really excited about hearing your thoughts on it, good or bad i just love anything dealing with that game!
Unfortunately that's the case.. I really wanted to like it more, but it's not worth the shelf space.. I will say that the production value is off the charts: the minis and materials are incredible
I call It Heroes of might and nostalgia I played and I find it drags way too long for what it is. In the first combat between 2 players we destroyed each other, which is something it might doom your chances to win. The combat between 2 players might take a while, leaving the other players there waiting. Depending on the person, they might even get bored.
I agree with every word. I just don't think I would ever play it at 3 oh my God... it will last FOREVER!! Heroes of Might and Nostalgia is brilliant 🤣🤣🤣🤣
we were 3 players, hence one person was always excluded from the combats (no matter if it was against npcs or another player). Since the players (play decently) more or less they progress equally, leaving very little opportunity for a combat that won't weaken both too much. Even if you stop the combat earlier on, you have to give up one of your cubes, which is a great deal. There is almost no reason to fight against the game unless it is the very last combat to steal the last game objective (we were playing the scenario where we had to control mines). Perhaps with different scenarios it is different...
Hey man, I love your content. Do you know of a good "Oregon Trail" type of board game? Like a survival game where you and x players try to survive a trip somewhere? The Oregon trail board is nothing like the video game.
No way! You fired Heroes 3. I was about to back it next month with the new expansions and stuff mainly because of the video you made ): Dude im in a serious debate with myself about backing it or not. From the one side, as you mention, is about 80% nostalgia and a 20% "expectations to be fun". Could you get a bit more in deep about this game? The mechanics, combats, exploration, etc.. does not worth having some manuals and beeing familiar with them? Cheers mate!
Haha I had a feeling it will be controversial 😅 Here's the thing.. I could have agreed to keeping the game (and maybe even having the new expansions!) IF there was ONE big box to keep everything together with ONE rulebook the combines everything. But to my understanding this is not the case. And anywhere that I look when I find one good thing there's also one bad thing, which is not positive in my opinion. The exploration mechanic is very basic and doesn't change a lot of things.. maybe they could have added some surprise combats? Or some bonuses when exploring? Because at some point exploration is just another thing.. the combat mechanism with the dice of -1 / +1 / 0 is king of lacking and making it maybe TOO simple. Since I would never recommend using the Battlefield expansion for any combat besides the absolutely last combat between players, the normal combat board is small and very repetitive. The lack of interaction untill the very end is making this game a mainly solo experience which is not what I was looking for. They tried to streamline the game (which I appreciate the effort) by limiting the round numbers and the tiles you can lay and the heroes you can recruit. But that is taking a big chunk of the PC game experience. I would add the possibility of recruiting more heroes and having more tiles ao the map can be bigger and you'll be able to do more things. If you don't have diplomacy, you won't be able most of the time to have creatures from different factions. And I'm not even talking about the possibility of having this game at 3(!) players.. that is just down-time agony. In 3 players, when one player is attacking, one player will 'play' for the enemy but that leaves 1 player just doing nothing. So that player is just left there singing "wake me up when September ends". This game could have been MUCH better, but at the price of being much less streamlined and taking more time with more moving components. So unfortunately it is a double edge sword. If I were you, I would try to get a 2nd hand copy of the game and see how it is. Trust me, you'll be able to get everything in the 2nd hand market. This game will not stay a long time with the players, especially seeing how many backers there are 😊
Thats literally the answer i was looking for... but not the answer i wanted to read haha I really saw so many potential in this game, that is a pity it doesnt get to expected level. (im also bored about those board game influencers were every board game they receive for free are "perfect! enjoyable and fun game!") so i really respect your answer. For the moment maybe i will keep my small collection with "Starcraft+Brood war expasion" and "Eclipse Second dawn" and most probably you are right just trying to get it from the second hand market to try some testing.
That's the advantage in not giving a flying **** about what everybody else is saying. I give my opinion in the most direct way. What's the worst thing that can happen? Someone will unsubscribe? Lol my channel is super small in any case 🤣 This is why I promised myself (and my viewers) to NEVER review I received for free. Only how-to-play or playthrough videos. If I want to review a game, I buy it, I play it (a few times) and then I review it. It's better to keep a small but amazing collection of games that keep hitting your table, rather than many games that you're not sure of or just waiting to be played. Love your attitude regarding that ❤️
@ezbgames im sure you will keep SWR, for me by far the best of the three. Really dislike WOTR, i like the streamlined version in Dune but i can't quite find the same Epic feeling that i get in SWR (BUT dune is so much quicker to setup and play...). Waiting for the KS exclusive expansions to try them and see if i keep Dune !
I have to tell you that I absolutely LOVE War of the Ring. It is SUCH a good game in my opinion.. I just bought the 2 decades edition of the base game and two expansions. It's a masterpiece
Yeah, I've moved away from the deluxe editions in Kickstarter/crowdfunding. Actually, I've been backing fewer games in general because of my collection size. I need to be a little more picky in my purchases.
Absolutely..
We need to remember that everything can be found later in the 2nd hand market
Yet another great video.
Yes, I was saying that despite being a huge 2 players game, Rebellion - unlike the others - is all about hidden movement.
(Very thematic and personally I recommend adding the expansion right with the first game).
There is one game which I wonder what will be your experience with (although your table seems fully booked):
Primal The Awakening
Can't wait for your triple Lord of the Rings comparison!
Thank you for taking your time and watching the video my friend 😊 I really like what you're adding to the EZ community 🤩
Oh my gosh, yes! Literally every CMON game I've ever looked into... or most of IVStudios games. All thriller no filler. I feel that deluxe editions just have been less and less enticing as the years go on. CoH 2E might be the last All In I ever purchase. But Primal, Thunder Road Vendetta, so many other games I've purchased all ins for and they just end up being such a hassle or not worth the effort.
But damn, I JUST bought a used copy of Merchants of the Dark Road.... still excited to try it but sad that you found it disappointing. At least I got it for cheap so if I don't like it I can maybe make some money on it!
I was close to backing Luthier because I liked Distilled a lot but the price is just too ridiculous. There's honestly no reason to back any of these games. There are so many people making this mistake that end up selling their backed games for cheaper or close to what the pledge cost was. If you wait you can just buy them later.
I'm pretty sad I missed the campaign for Imperial Borders but if it ends up being good hopefully I can snag a copy of it later down the road.
Fantastic vid! Thanks for putting it together!
Look, that was just my experience with Merchants of the Dark Road. And for 50€ I don't even regret trying it.
I hope you'll find it better than I did!
These games like Luthier lose their value VERY quickly. It's very rare that a game now days hold its value..
I'll make sure to cover Imperial Borders in a way that will help you decide if it is for you or not..
I'll keep you updated brother ❤️
Woop woop!
🤣🤣
@@ezbgamesLooking forward to hear your thoughts on Crown of Ash.
Yeah I got to bring it to the table soon
Many computer games do not transition well to board games. Computers are good at running a lot of stuff behind the scenes, and having lots of detail in memory. But in a boardgame, one of the players has to set up the decks of cards, place all of the chits & tokens, roll & count the dice, pull out the box and rules for the next scenario, etc. It is work that takes away from the fun of playing.
Completely agree with you!
I did a while ago a video for my favorite board games that are based on video games.
Since then, nothing really has changed 😅
I know Theurgy 😅 also sitting on my shelf of shame. I end up selling most of my kickstarters, but keep on pushing the deluxe pledge button 🙈. I recently started watching playthroughs and reading the rules before pledging and am backing way less.
Yeah, this is totally a disease this KS deluxe thingies.. :/
But I agree the more times passes, the less games I back. 💯%
I'd really like to see March of the Ants Evolved Edition please :D
Of course 😊😊
The video will be released on August 20th
I'm ready to bet that Star Wars Rebellion will stay in your collection 😁 For comparing WOTR with Dune: WFA I'm eager to see that video but for me both are like comparing apple and oranges... when I play both they feel worlds apart... I think it's the lenght of the game and the theme. Even if they have mechanics that resembles a little they feel unique. Thanks for the vid messieur de paris 😜
Mdr avec plaisir mon ami!
I'm not saying that there's no place for both games in a collection of course.. but they are VERY similar.
I'll make the comparison and we'll see ;)
Totally agree with you about the KS prices/deluxification. Deluxification normally means bump up the prices even for the base pledge... A standard price manipulation strategy
War of the ring the card game is another complete different experience from the board game.
Not as epic but still, in my opinion, very very good, very interesting mechanics with the card management and a very tight game
The head to head fantasy game family is finally united again 😂 the expansion for sw rb is kinda a must have, the epic feeling is still presente without it but it fixes the combat and gives you more replayability.
I'm still searching for my Dune 😢
You are tempering me with the Dark Ages! Please stop 😂
Have a good week!
I love when you comment on my videos ❤️
I really can't wait to play the card game and tomorrow I have a session of War of the Ring. Can't wait!!
I hope you'll get Dune. It is a really good one and I appreciate it even more now.
Dark Ages.... you'll be doing yourself a favor my friend ;)
@@ezbgames be prepared to the rolling frustration for tomorrow 🤣
It's always a pleasure comment your awesome content!
Really like your videos/opinions!
Keep strong my friend!
I keep at it thanks to comments like yours. I appreciate a lot the time you're taking watching my content
I played War of the ring the card game once (as the humans/elves) and i had the very strong feeling that the deck is quite "scripted": there is an ideal sequence how the cards should be played and how good you can do is strictly dependent by how close you draw cards to play that script.
Of course you have to manage your hand and weight the combats but I did not find it personally really exciting.
Hmmm.. that's interesting! I'll have to check it out.
Thank you! 😊
Kind of a random question, but do you have a shop on Etsy??
@@ezbgames yes I do. It is a very small one with just a few items that I made mostly as board games aficionado/player rather than being a real business itself
And you sell there stuff to upgrade games, right?
Like for War of the Ring?
Goddammit man, I told you I had sold off my Dark Ages...But hearing you talk about it in that video and this, I find myself looking at it again!
At least if I find it at a deal or someone local wanna trade, I might have to give it a second go. Wouldnt be the first time ive bought-sold-bought a game.
Most of these games leaving or entering ive never played but your reasons are sound.
Have you looked at either "Triumph" by PHALANX, or "Tiny Epic Game of Thrones"? Ive backed both of them for different reasons, would love to hear what you think of them.
I see that beautiful box in your shelf down at the bottom left though! Looking forward to hear your thoughts about it!
Hahaha I'm telling you.. Dark Ages in my opinion is THAT good!! I wouldn't recommend it or buying the other box otherwise..
I backed Triumph so waiting for it 😎
You're talking about Anunnaki? It will hit my table soon I hope after I finish with War of the Ring
@@ezbgames I was spotting Warrior Knight! Its one of my all-time favourites so im really excited about hearing your thoughts on it, good or bad i just love anything dealing with that game!
Ahhhhh yessss!!!! So sorry...
I'm still on the hunt for it's expansion..
I agreed for Heroes 3
Played it with a friend
Its okay
But not worth it
Unfortunately that's the case.. I really wanted to like it more, but it's not worth the shelf space.. I will say that the production value is off the charts: the minis and materials are incredible
I call It
Heroes of might and nostalgia
I played and I find it drags way too long for what it is.
In the first combat between 2 players we destroyed each other, which is something it might doom your chances to win.
The combat between 2 players might take a while, leaving the other players there waiting. Depending on the person, they might even get bored.
I agree with every word.
I just don't think I would ever play it at 3 oh my God... it will last FOREVER!!
Heroes of Might and Nostalgia is brilliant 🤣🤣🤣🤣
we were 3 players, hence one person was always excluded from the combats (no matter if it was against npcs or another player).
Since the players (play decently) more or less they progress equally, leaving very little opportunity for a combat that won't weaken both too much. Even if you stop the combat earlier on, you have to give up one of your cubes, which is a great deal.
There is almost no reason to fight against the game unless it is the very last combat to steal the last game objective (we were playing the scenario where we had to control mines).
Perhaps with different scenarios it is different...
I guess we'll never know 😅
Hey man, I love your content. Do you know of a good "Oregon Trail" type of board game? Like a survival game where you and x players try to survive a trip somewhere? The Oregon trail board is nothing like the video game.
Thank you so much! 😍
I actually never heard of this game. I guess I have something to check out now :)
No way! You fired Heroes 3. I was about to back it next month with the new expansions and stuff mainly because of the video you made ):
Dude im in a serious debate with myself about backing it or not.
From the one side, as you mention, is about 80% nostalgia and a 20% "expectations to be fun".
Could you get a bit more in deep about this game? The mechanics, combats, exploration, etc.. does not worth having some manuals and beeing familiar with them?
Cheers mate!
Haha I had a feeling it will be controversial 😅
Here's the thing.. I could have agreed to keeping the game (and maybe even having the new expansions!) IF there was ONE big box to keep everything together with ONE rulebook the combines everything. But to my understanding this is not the case. And anywhere that I look when I find one good thing there's also one bad thing, which is not positive in my opinion.
The exploration mechanic is very basic and doesn't change a lot of things.. maybe they could have added some surprise combats? Or some bonuses when exploring?
Because at some point exploration is just another thing.. the combat mechanism with the dice of -1 / +1 / 0 is king of lacking and making it maybe TOO simple. Since I would never recommend using the Battlefield expansion for any combat besides the absolutely last combat between players, the normal combat board is small and very repetitive.
The lack of interaction untill the very end is making this game a mainly solo experience which is not what I was looking for. They tried to streamline the game (which I appreciate the effort) by limiting the round numbers and the tiles you can lay and the heroes you can recruit. But that is taking a big chunk of the PC game experience. I would add the possibility of recruiting more heroes and having more tiles ao the map can be bigger and you'll be able to do more things. If you don't have diplomacy, you won't be able most of the time to have creatures from different factions.
And I'm not even talking about the possibility of having this game at 3(!) players.. that is just down-time agony. In 3 players, when one player is attacking, one player will 'play' for the enemy but that leaves 1 player just doing nothing. So that player is just left there singing "wake me up when September ends".
This game could have been MUCH better, but at the price of being much less streamlined and taking more time with more moving components. So unfortunately it is a double edge sword.
If I were you, I would try to get a 2nd hand copy of the game and see how it is. Trust me, you'll be able to get everything in the 2nd hand market. This game will not stay a long time with the players, especially seeing how many backers there are 😊
Thats literally the answer i was looking for... but not the answer i wanted to read haha
I really saw so many potential in this game, that is a pity it doesnt get to expected level. (im also bored about those board game influencers were every board game they receive for free are "perfect! enjoyable and fun game!") so i really respect your answer.
For the moment maybe i will keep my small collection with "Starcraft+Brood war expasion" and "Eclipse Second dawn" and most probably you are right just trying to get it from the second hand market to try some testing.
That's the advantage in not giving a flying **** about what everybody else is saying. I give my opinion in the most direct way.
What's the worst thing that can happen? Someone will unsubscribe? Lol my channel is super small in any case 🤣
This is why I promised myself (and my viewers) to NEVER review I received for free. Only how-to-play or playthrough videos.
If I want to review a game, I buy it, I play it (a few times) and then I review it.
It's better to keep a small but amazing collection of games that keep hitting your table, rather than many games that you're not sure of or just waiting to be played.
Love your attitude regarding that ❤️
On mars for 80 euro... not on the 2nd hand market in my country
I'll throw a wild guess and say..... Canada?
חלק גדול מההנאה שלי מהסרטון היא לדמיין שאנחנו חברים טובים ואתה מזמין אותי לשחק איתך במשחקי קופסא
היי! אנחנו כבר חברים.. ייקח עוד קצת עד שנהפוך לחברים טובים :)
והדלת שלי תמיד פתוחה 😊😊
I was wondering : did you keep any of : Star Wars Rebellion / Dune / War of the Ring ?
All of them are still with me, although I haven't played yet SWR and not sure what will be with Dune (stay or not..)
@ezbgames im sure you will keep SWR, for me by far the best of the three. Really dislike WOTR, i like the streamlined version in Dune but i can't quite find the same Epic feeling that i get in SWR (BUT dune is so much quicker to setup and play...). Waiting for the KS exclusive expansions to try them and see if i keep Dune !
@@ezbgames i can teach you SWR if you are in Lyon 😂
J'aimerais bien passer à Lyon!! 😍😍😍
I have to tell you that I absolutely LOVE War of the Ring. It is SUCH a good game in my opinion..
I just bought the 2 decades edition of the base game and two expansions.
It's a masterpiece
is it possible to make xia legends of a drift system into a narrative driven story game with user generated content. Has anyone tried that.
Oh wow! That's a very interesting and out of the box idea!
I would be interested in trying