This guy explains that our military is incompetent. This is nuts. This is Russian Roulette and they finally pulled the trigger with a bullet in the chamber. Unacceptable. So, the ATC was not accurate enough. It still never should have happened.
If the public only knew they would become enraged. And wonder where the eff their money was actually going because not near enough going to aircraft maintenance training hours.
The ATC was very accurate. The jet was exactly where it was supposed to be. The helicopter was VFR. Obligated to see and avoid. ATC informed the helicopter of the position of the jet.
It's dumb af that they were training in a commercial airspace. I just don't buy it. And if it is the truth it's absurdly stupid and shouldn't be a thing.
Every flight is a training flight of some sort. Gaining experience, newer people getting qualified, performing check rides, it never stops. When my UH-60 unit crossed the border, flying into Iraq, we were training people. We are careful to mix properly experienced and newbie crews properly, so we didn't have an aircraft full of newbies together. Keep in mind the US military starts people flying from square one, so we were never full of ultra highly experienced people. But we constantly trained to improve skills.
This 🤡 doens’t know what he is talking about. The female lesbian that was piloting the Blackhawk was a mile wide and 400ft too high… she only had 450 hours, no one should be flying in DC airspace without at least a 1000 or more… INSANE!
@@PaulP567 It's an "approved procedure" that's been happening for a long, long time. Civilians didn't know about it or did know about it and didn't care until a "perfect storm" occurred and we have what we have now...just like with pretty much everything else that happens in the world.
What nonsense. No evidence she’s LGBT (doesn’t matter if so), she graduated in the top 20% of her class, all pilots start with 0 hours, the flight was under command of the male instructor, they (not just she) may have been 60’ high but not 400. This was an accident waiting to happen and they just happen to be the ones who unfortunately perished
Well the video is proof enough The collision was much higher than 200 feet so it’s pretty obvious the helicopter was higher than it should have been. Had it stayed under 200 it wouldn’t have happened.
@@notbeefyproductions7109yes runway 33. Initially the CRJ was to land on runway 1. ATC asked CRJ if they would switch runways in the final moments and the CRJ said they would switch runways.
Training with civilian aircraft which won't be there if there was a real attack. Training in a city wide blackout that will actually be dark in a real attack. Training in a green helicopter with crew of 3 that will actually be a gold top helicopter in a real attack. Seems more like training service personnel to follow orders no matter how stupid they are, than anything else.
From the ATC traffic reports it sounds like exactly what he's saying.... I believe when ATC said "Hey do u have PSA flight 5525 or whatever the marking was, the Helo pilot misidentifyed the aircraft in front of them for the aircraft coming in unfortunately..... Rip all souls on board.....
@RollMeOne_Kenobi Good Question man.... If he thought the bird ahead of him was actually the bird above them. He may have asended up.... If ATC asked the Helo."do you see flight ???? At your 5 o'clock it may have prevented but not sure
If three sets of eyes didn't help these pilots how would four sets make a difference. I call BS on that answer. Bottom line is 64 people on that airplane lost their lives and that policy of flying into heavily trafficked areas for training purposes needs to stop. No civillian should have to give their life for training. There's plenty of other places they can train.
It has been said that one of the pilots was assigned to a non-flying role in the White House. How many flights did that person have after the White House assignment?
Too busy escorting Ralph Lauren and Alex Soros at social functions to master flight altitude, perhaps. The coincidence here is really quite incredible.
The real question is, why is there VFR traffic in Class B airspace? The answer: because it gives us a lot of freedom. These helo routes just need to be fixed.
There is a difference between AGL (Above Ground Level) and ASL (Above Sea Level). That could account for the problem, with the ATC being given the wrong height and the pilot not understanding the issue with being over the Potamac river.
@PATTHECATMCD gotcha. I still can't believe there are overlapping flight paths where by an airport on final approach. I question the handful of times I flew in to that airport now. Yikes.
This guy is full of 💩. No, LEDs and incandescent lights don't look much different under nvg. No matter what the light source is, you're going to see it! It could be a phone screen, someone smoking a cigarette, or someone using a 10 lumen red light, you're going to see it, and you'd sure as hell see the lights on an airplane!
Your ignorance is showing. Different light sources emit at different frequencies. NVG responds to differently to different frequencies. The view through NVGs are very different than the naked eye .
Stop it! Just stop it, already! The pilot of the helicopter deliberately crashed into the commercial jet liner..., PERIOD! Let us hear the black box recording of the helicopter, and the blanks will more than likely be filled in..., at least some of them.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky If it is proven that she was the pilot of the helicopter, and that she did deliberately fly that helicopter into the commercial jet liner which proof or exoneration the powers that be already have in the form of the helicopter's black box recording, but if it was in fact a deliberate act, it wasn't about her wanting to die, so much as it being about her wanting to hurt President Trump, and those people who agree with and who support President Trump. This psychological disorder is best known in laymen's terms as TDS, or Trump derangement syndrome. The key is that helicopter's black box recording that has probably been listened to hundreds and hundreds of times already, but how do "they" release such a recording to the public? I mean..., people can only tolerate just so much TDS and then...
NTSB said the plane and helicopter were on different radio types. They could both communicate with the ATC but they couldn't hear each other. Like the US Secret Service who were on the different radio frequencies, (or who refused radios altogether) than the police at Butler Pennsylvania. As a bylaw enforcement officer in Vancouver I can tell you you live or die on the basis of your radio communications.
To put it plainly an airport Basically serves two functions to receive planes landing and planes departing. It is no place for other aircraft to be training In this airspace. It's like taking your kid out with their bicycle with training wheels to them how to ride on the freeway.
Why is the Warrent Officer/crewchief not held to be a fault here? He had no night vision and he was responsible for the training....chopper too high, he should have known and told pilot, radio comms are weird, he should be figuring out what was off....huge lights from airliner are seen for miles, no excuse to miss those from the crewchief. I wonder if he was looking at his cellphone.
Thank you... I knew right away this was the only valid explanation... the military and its hubris is using commercial airspace and civilians flights as guinea pigs to train their pilots. If I had known this, I would have never flown once!
One of many, many incredible amouts of stupidity. Unfortunalty many young people paid with there lives and families are experiencing unbelievable grief. My thoughts and prayers are with those families. IMHO, this was part of the D E ! push. Even at the FAA level. I am not blaming the controller. They were put in a difficult/overwhelming spot.
Why they wait 4 days before disclosing the chopper pilot’s name? Answer: so her family could totally delete all her social media. Why would they want that done before disclosing her name?😮
2nd generation variety dim bright light enhancement, in order not to dazzle the wearer. Wearing them an intensifier in urban environment is just stupid, they can blank out bright warning lights.
Thinking putting a 28 year old lesbian with a dismal 500 hours flying time in 5 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE may have been a mistake .......she should have only been flying a kite in that area .......
airliners receive at least 1 mile of separation at altitude and 1000feet vertically. this apparently is disregarded once the aircraft is about to land in the terminal area of an airport.
@@joebagodonuts8119 It depends on the size of the aircraft, a small prop plane should keep 5 miles away from the wake of a 747 to avoid turbulence that can send it spinning.
these machines need be reoutfitted with heads up displays, modern navi screens, etc. our cars have collision warning systems but our military helicopters don't?
Yeah let’s completely overlook the fact that the helicopter was restricted airspace and this could happen happened if they stayed at 200’ or lower. There have been other violations of protected airspace at airports. Can we at least admit it, and put supervision on these pilots. Imagine if a drone took down a plane because it was violating airport landing space. Would everyone blame it on not seeing lights?
The only common sense answer that makes sense is to just stay in your lane. Which includes altitude and flight paths. The passenger jet was cleared for landing. Its eyes were fixed on lining up with the runway. They were almost home free. Everyone knows that no matter what you're doing, everything looks different at night. It's a common perception. Some people chose not to drive at night because of that reality. But when you put night vision devices in the mix it complicates things. It seems there should have been more radio traffic from the tower than just asking the helo pilot if he sees the aircraft. The video showed a fast and steady incline from the helo that went straight to 300 feet. If they've done that many times, and they're so experienced why didn't they level off at 200 or 250 feet? But even if they did that their air speed closed the gap between the aircrafts. Every pilot and air traffic controller should know that when a plane is on approach it slows down. The helo showed no sign of slowing down. If they were practicing quick extracts why cross a heavy traffic flight path to do it.
When ATC gave the details at first and helicopter confirmed visual, do you think anyone on the helicopter crew actually saw that plane? They were about 5 nm apart then. Even an Eagle may have to take a second look. The helicopter crews could be in the habit of confirming visual to get the green for "the mission".
Nothing I'm hearing this guy says gives me ANY confidence about WHY the military is training at an airport with commercial flights going in and out!! If anything, his words make me think this is NOT to place to do ANY "training". Mindlessly stupid!!
IT IS INCREDIBLY DUMB PERIOD TO HAVE MILITARY TRAINING EXERCISES ANYWHERE NEAR A AIRPORT END OF STORY. IN ADDITION DONT BOTH THE AMERICAN JET AND HELICOPTER BOTH HAVE RADAR THAT LETS THEM KNOW ANOTHER AIRCRAFT IS VERY NEAR THEIR PATH SO A COLLISION CAN BE AVOIDED?
Now matter what this bearded stone age guy is saying, I would not enter any plane going into the US and I think there are lots of pilots thinking the same and choosing to fly other routes. You deal with your problems first.
How much of taxpayer money is spent for the military in the USA? And this is the result. The Pentagon overspends and there are no audits. No other country spends such a high percentage of their GDP for the military, and the result is that the American public infrastructure is severely lacking. Less military spending would result in less enemies. Less tragedies like this. Every few weeks there are news of military aircrafts crashing etc.
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE . OXYMORON ! HERE'S SMART TAKE THIS HELICOPTER FLY THE WRONG WAY ON A ONE WAY TO A RUNWAY FOR COMMERCIAL AIRLINES . SOMETHING EVEN A DODO DOESN'T DO . AND THEIR FUNCTIONING ON A BIRDBRAIN !
The wrong aircraft? So the helicopter crew turned in front of the aircraft they thought was the landing CRJ instead of passing behind it as instructed by ATC. This, then, was pilot deviation.
because the decades of flight operations didn't work and should be questioned? did you notice notice there was a crash because the lesbian pilot had next to zero flight time and was flying at high speed in a commercial flight path?
I think, right now, no one knows anything, we have to wait a few weeks, when the black boxes analyzed and all the info is in about the crash. Until, it's just speculations!
What would the explanation be if it wasn't a helicopter - but an unidentified Drone that collided with the plane? What if that had happened? What possible explanation/excuse could be given?
Because your elected officials require it!!!!! They want constant protection. And they want to land as close to their offices as possible so, heaven forbid, they have to ride an hour from Dulles airport to their offices. This congestion is their fault.
I wonder the same thing 🤔 I don't think it's a good idea to ask a pilot to switch runways in the final moments! Ridiculous and is only going to make the situation less safe.
@@barbarajohnson8968 Runway 33 does not have a full ILS system, for good reason. If it did the jets would be going right over the heliport. This procedure has been used hundreds of times. Should the helicopter pilots be prohibited from from crossing the approach path? Should the helicopter pilots be required to fly east until the reach 1000 feet? Should the helicopters be required to fly IFR?
@AlbertHess-xy7ky watch WSJ minutes by minute . The jet pilot had to turn off the autopilot. That's wrong the pilot should just say HELL NO, am sticking w my path. No plane should ever be allowed to change so close to the landing. That asked for trouble!!
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky initially the CRJ was scheduled for runway 1 and during final approach was switched to 33. This may have been unnoticeable to the helo.
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Any Driver out there should be Looking forward so a Pilot should definitely be Focused Forward when they are Fixing to Cross in front of a runway since a plane could be landing……The pilot had multiple warnings, and they Right into the plane.
Why would they use nigh vision goggles, knowing it has a narrow view and city lights can interfere with proper seeing, meanwhile knowing they're crossing a bussie commercial air traffic, where planes are landing or taking off? It's like if I would use my cruise control in my car, driving in heavy traffic! Nuts! Risky flying should be practiced on simulators and not in real life! Problem with many woman, what can go wrong, will go wrong! My wife keep telling me the kitchen knives are all dull, why don't I sharpen them? I told her, - Honey, if I sharpen them, most likely you cut your fingers off. LOL!
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@ hell no. Not anywhere near the very crowded airways. Did you NOT see the crash that just happened? How many more collisions do you want? For what? It’s stupid. Wasteful military spending on ‘defense’, which we all know is really OFFENSE.
It seems bloody stupid to me, & so many others, that the military would be doing maneuvers over a international airport at night, when they have their own training grounds,?? It's a crash waiting to happen,?? I suggest if the military have to put airliners in danger, DO IT IN DAYLIGHT hours,??
Another crew chief? That seems like such a simple suggestion. So much money putting into military and this seems like such an easy fix. Why wasnt there another crew chief in the back seat of the black hawk helicopter? This guy who was commenting seems to put a little bit if blame on the American Airline pilots but they seemed to be doing everything right....I do ahree though this was a Perfect Storm for catastrophe......
This guy explains that our military is incompetent. This is nuts. This is Russian Roulette and they finally pulled the trigger with a bullet in the chamber. Unacceptable.
So, the ATC was not accurate enough. It still never should have happened.
If the public only knew they would become enraged. And wonder where the eff their money was actually going because not near enough going to aircraft maintenance training hours.
You realise the whole world laugh at you lot top to bottom right?
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They are laughing at your grammar, spelling and punctuation, too.
@@joebagodonuts8119 Where I come from we don't need that to win wars on or own...... care to name one that your country has? 🤣🤣
Sit this out!
The ATC was very accurate. The jet was exactly where it was supposed to be. The helicopter was VFR. Obligated to see and avoid. ATC informed the helicopter of the position of the jet.
This is the question of day. To have two aircrafts doing roughly 150mph within 200-300 feet of each other: there is zero room for error.
they don't normally cross under traffic no matter the height...they're supposed to wait
@@brucesmith1544the pilot and the accompanying crew were all so cowboy about this whole exercise. So this training exercise… you have failed soldier!
It's dumb af that they were training in a commercial airspace. I just don't buy it. And if it is the truth it's absurdly stupid and shouldn't be a thing.
Every flight is a training flight of some sort. Gaining experience, newer people getting qualified, performing check rides, it never stops. When my UH-60 unit crossed the border, flying into Iraq, we were training people. We are careful to mix properly experienced and newbie crews properly, so we didn't have an aircraft full of newbies together. Keep in mind the US military starts people flying from square one, so we were never full of ultra highly experienced people. But we constantly trained to improve skills.
This 🤡 doens’t know what he is talking about. The female lesbian that was piloting the Blackhawk was a mile wide and 400ft too high… she only had 450 hours, no one should be flying in DC airspace without at least a 1000 or more… INSANE!
All airspace is commerical and military.
@@MrJackal43 Your take is the clownish one. There was an instructor pilot next to her who had 1000+, what was he doing/looking at? Get over yourself
Readiness would be affected if they cannot train in the real deal
That is ridiculous. Why are helicopters flying around civilian airports? No one is askimg this question? I would hold the gov accountable.
I find it astonishing that everyone in authority finds this normal, It is an "approved procedure". What it is in reality is madness.
@@PaulP567 It's an "approved procedure" that's been happening for a long, long time. Civilians didn't know about it or did know about it and didn't care until a "perfect storm" occurred and we have what we have now...just like with pretty much everything else that happens in the world.
The military is responsible to defend all airspace.
@@PaulP567 It has been in place for decades. There are far worse. Where are they? We will find out.
Where are helicopters supposed to fly out of? it's a airport.
With a DEI piloting chopper when she belonged in copilot chair
The former Biden aid female pilot with 450 hours had no business flying there.
Big lawsuits against the government 😅
You can't win against the government
You will be paying more taxes.
Qualified immunity
@@angelabobanna7774you think people like police can operate within qualified immunity? it’s ridiculous.
DEI… the female LBGTQ pilot with 450 hours was a mile wide and 400ft to high! Ridiculous!
What nonsense. No evidence she’s LGBT (doesn’t matter if so), she graduated in the top 20% of her class, all pilots start with 0 hours, the flight was under command of the male instructor, they (not just she) may have been 60’ high but not 400. This was an accident waiting to happen and they just happen to be the ones who unfortunately perished
@@hapt122she was 150 ft high, and according to other military pilots, in order to meet DEI, standards were lowered.
She is now labeled as Copilot
Where was instructor? Why wait til helo was in jets flight path, they must have known where they were ffs
You have no idea what you're talking about
What about altitude.
The 200 foot ceiling was in place for a reason
The chopper was too high period.
They don't know. Looking for it's blackbox etc
Well the video is proof enough
The collision was much higher than 200 feet so it’s pretty obvious the helicopter was higher than it should have been.
Had it stayed under 200 it wouldn’t have happened.
@@stevelarkin5987atc told it to go behind so it flew up
Why did it cross into front of the runway? That’s crazy.
Is it true that it was runway 33?
@@notbeefyproductions7109 Yes
@@notbeefyproductions7109yes runway 33. Initially the CRJ was to land on runway 1. ATC asked CRJ if they would switch runways in the final moments and the CRJ said they would switch runways.
@@notbeefyproductions7109 Yes
@@barbarajohnson8968 It is standards procedure. Runway 33 does not have a full ILS.
Training with civilian aircraft which won't be there if there was a real attack. Training in a city wide blackout that will actually be dark in a real attack. Training in a green helicopter with crew of 3 that will actually be a gold top helicopter in a real attack. Seems more like training service personnel to follow orders no matter how stupid they are, than anything else.
you that naïve to think it's just about a war narrative?
Those planes might be there in 1st part of an attack. They have to get out of air somehow
From the ATC traffic reports it sounds like exactly what he's saying.... I believe when ATC said "Hey do u have PSA flight 5525 or whatever the marking was, the Helo pilot misidentifyed the aircraft in front of them for the aircraft coming in unfortunately..... Rip all souls on board.....
That's what I thought too, but if that's the case then why did he still pass in front of it? ATC specifically told them to PASS BEHIND the CRJ
@RollMeOne_Kenobi Good Question man.... If he thought the bird ahead of him was actually the bird above them. He may have asended up.... If ATC asked the Helo."do you see flight ???? At your 5 o'clock it may have prevented but not sure
If three sets of eyes didn't help these pilots how would four sets make a difference. I call BS on that answer. Bottom line is 64 people on that airplane lost their lives and that policy of flying into heavily trafficked areas for training purposes needs to stop. No civillian should have to give their life for training. There's plenty of other places they can train.
Military pilots are constantly training. The majority of their flight time is training not combat
So you feel 4 sets of eyes is worse than 3 sets ?
weaponized incompetence
By the Trump's military
@@AlbertHess-xy7kyThe pilot was a Biden aide. 😂
It has been said that one of the pilots was assigned to a non-flying role in the White House. How many flights did that person have after the White House assignment?
approx. 500 hours
Too busy escorting Ralph Lauren and Alex Soros at social functions to master flight altitude, perhaps. The coincidence here is really quite incredible.
Did they doing any flying during the White House assignment.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky Of course, you cannot stay current otherwise
White House assignment was part time and does not replace normal duty
The real question is, why is there VFR traffic in Class B airspace? The answer: because it gives us a lot of freedom. These helo routes just need to be fixed.
What? Military helicopters don’t train around every airport. Who is this guy?
Random hobo they found
@@ceoherohub2584😂😂😂😂
Why is the army involving civilians in their training missions? This is not okay.
With an unqualified Captain aboard
It’s insane that the flight paths are on a collision course. It was inevitable.
It's NOT like this around the US ( From a 35 Yr FAA controller)
The US is not Washington.
WHAT ABOUT ALTITUDE...I HEAR THE BH...was supposed to be below 200 ft, and it was almost double?????.
There is a difference between AGL (Above Ground Level) and ASL (Above Sea Level). That could account for the problem, with the ATC being given the wrong height and the pilot not understanding the issue with being over the Potamac river.
The NTSB is talking about the elevation during their updates. Be sure to tune in!
@PATTHECATMCD gotcha.
I still can't believe there are overlapping flight paths where by an airport on final approach.
I question the handful of times I flew in to that airport now. Yikes.
@@PATTHECATMCDYour ignorance is showing. At point of impact the Ground Level was equal to Sea Level. The max AGL at DCA is 27 feet.
@@barbarajohnson8968 The max elevation at DCA is 27 feet.
So this training mission was a failure.
😂
This guy is full of 💩. No, LEDs and incandescent lights don't look much different under nvg. No matter what the light source is, you're going to see it! It could be a phone screen, someone smoking a cigarette, or someone using a 10 lumen red light, you're going to see it, and you'd sure as hell see the lights on an airplane!
Your ignorance is showing. Different light sources emit at different frequencies. NVG responds to differently to different frequencies. The view through NVGs are very different than the naked eye .
That plane would have looked significantly brighter under NVG actually. There is NO Excuse. This guy isn’t even a pilot. He was a crew chief.
This pilot was very accomplished at 500 hrs total time ! And she even gave tours of White House ! LOL SAD DEI makes people DIE !
Se was not a qualified pilot?
Stop it! Just stop it, already! The pilot of the helicopter deliberately crashed into the commercial jet liner..., PERIOD! Let us hear the black box recording of the helicopter, and the blanks will more than likely be filled in..., at least some of them.
Why did the helicopter pilot want to die?
Yeah. She was having a menstrual cycle moment and just lost it.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky If it is proven that she was the pilot of the helicopter, and that she did deliberately fly that helicopter into the commercial jet liner which proof or exoneration the powers that be already have in the form of the helicopter's black box recording, but if it was in fact a deliberate act, it wasn't about her wanting to die, so much as it being about her wanting to hurt President Trump, and those people who agree with and who support President Trump. This psychological disorder is best known in laymen's terms as TDS, or Trump derangement syndrome. The key is that helicopter's black box recording that has probably been listened to hundreds and hundreds of times already, but how do "they" release such a recording to the public? I mean..., people can only tolerate just so much TDS and then...
@@rolex3560 In my humble opinion, that is extremely inappropriate, at this time, under these circumstances.
Remember when they said that military aircraft dont have black boxes? So whatever we are told will be the story we are supposed to swallow.
The helicopter was too high point blank period!
Helicopters should Not be flying over that River blocking planes from Landing on that Runway.
There is a published helo route over the river. Has been for decades
Since 911 they train routinely there
NTSB said the plane and helicopter were on different radio types. They could both communicate with the ATC but they couldn't hear each other. Like the US Secret Service who were on the different radio frequencies, (or who refused radios altogether) than the police at Butler Pennsylvania. As a bylaw enforcement officer in Vancouver I can tell you you live or die on the basis of your radio communications.
The pilot couldn't read the Blackhawk's altimeter gauge.... she likely had little to no flight hours in this aircraft. This is disgusting.
She only had 500 hours, that’s it. Should never have been allowed to train in that airspace.
@@FightFightFight4547 What do you mean ONLY? That is a lot of chopper time. Fixed wing it's not as impressive but fixed wing flies in IMC by 500 hours
@ not enough time. Period.
@ Nonsense. Army typically promotes to PIC on choppers between 300-500 hrs
@ lower standards. NOT QUALIFIED.
Stills sounds like a bad idea to me. Keep the military training away from civilians
To put it plainly an airport Basically serves two functions to receive planes landing and planes departing. It is no place for other aircraft to be training In this airspace. It's like taking your kid out with their bicycle with training wheels to them how to ride on the freeway.
This VFR training mission required two crew chiefs and maximum 200' ceiling.
You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
Why is the Warrent Officer/crewchief not held to be a fault here? He had no night vision and he was responsible for the training....chopper too high, he should have known and told pilot, radio comms are weird, he should be figuring out what was off....huge lights from airliner are seen for miles, no excuse to miss those from the crewchief. I wonder if he was looking at his cellphone.
Thank you... I knew right away this was the only valid explanation... the military and its hubris is using commercial airspace and civilians flights as guinea pigs to train their pilots. If I had known this, I would have never flown once!
4:27 the second ATC call was a courtesy call. ATC could have ignored the alarm bc the helo already had visual
Well, because if you want to hit a jet with a helicopter, you have to occupy the same space as the glide path.
Precisely.
so the ceiling height is 200 so why was the Blackhawk at 325!!!! So it's ok to put civilians in harms way!!!!!!
Thanks for the tip!!!! I will think real hard before getting on a commercial flight.
One of many, many incredible amouts of stupidity. Unfortunalty many young people paid with there lives and families are experiencing unbelievable grief.
My thoughts and prayers are with those families.
IMHO, this was part of the D E ! push. Even at the FAA level. I am not blaming the controller. They were put in a difficult/overwhelming spot.
Who was the DEI in this accident? The Controller? Their boss?
Why they wait 4 days before disclosing the chopper pilot’s name? Answer: so her family could totally delete all her social media. Why would they want that done before disclosing her name?😮
Because of hateful comments like this.
@ keep watching the View
Skeletons in the Closet?!😮
Skeletons in the ground?!😢
Great question from the NN reporter!
Meanwhile..."drones" are STILL up there..AND not crashing...
Hi ZZ Topp !
When u have NVGs light is enhanced, making the plane light even brighter
2nd generation variety dim bright light enhancement, in order not to dazzle the wearer. Wearing them an intensifier in urban environment is just stupid, they can blank out bright warning lights.
Exactly. I think they found a random dude off the street for this segment
There is a base there. Where the heck else must they train? It is normal. Sad about lives lost.
Why was a Black Hawk training exercise in path of commercial jets? because it was doomsday evacuation training and thats the route they would use
Is that the dude from Iron and Wine?
Thinking putting a 28 year old lesbian with a dismal 500 hours flying time in 5 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE may have been a mistake .......she should have only been flying a kite in that area .......
Not easy to fly a kite in the dark
Not a training exercise, a training flight. We have to train.
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airliners receive at least 1 mile of separation at altitude and 1000feet vertically. this apparently is disregarded once the aircraft is about to land in the terminal area of an airport.
That’s crazy.
@@joebagodonuts8119 It depends on the size of the aircraft, a small prop plane should keep 5 miles away from the wake of a 747 to avoid turbulence that can send it spinning.
Duh
Even the wake turbulence was too close to this airliner. Controller is at fault.
Now we know why reckless US military failed in Afghanistan.
And why was it carrying a missle?
And why is no one talking about that fact?
these machines need be reoutfitted with heads up displays, modern navi screens, etc. our cars have collision warning systems but our military helicopters don't?
Do heads up displays, modern navi screens, etc. in our cars stop car accident deaths?
More reason to ban LED lights. They cause so many problems.
Ban LEDs? For navigation lights? Runway lights? Car headlights? Pssst.... your foolishness is showing.
Yeah let’s completely overlook the fact that the helicopter was restricted airspace and this could happen happened if they stayed at 200’ or lower. There have been other violations of protected airspace at airports. Can we at least admit it, and put supervision on these pilots. Imagine if a drone took down a plane because it was violating airport landing space. Would everyone blame it on not seeing lights?
You’re not the expert
Many lost their lives over an IDE program. That's why.
They need to stop flying them near airports period.
There is 11k flights per year along that corridor with helicopters.
The only common sense answer that makes sense is to just stay in your lane. Which includes altitude and flight paths. The passenger jet was cleared for landing. Its eyes were fixed on lining up with the runway. They were almost home free. Everyone knows that no matter what you're doing, everything looks different at night. It's a common perception. Some people chose not to drive at night because of that reality. But when you put night vision devices in the mix it complicates things. It seems there should have been more radio traffic from the tower than just asking the helo pilot if he sees the aircraft. The video showed a fast and steady incline from the helo that went straight to 300 feet. If they've done that many times, and they're so experienced why didn't they level off at 200 or 250 feet? But even if they did that their air speed closed the gap between the aircrafts. Every pilot and air traffic controller should know that when a plane is on approach it slows down. The helo showed no sign of slowing down. If they were practicing quick extracts why cross a heavy traffic flight path to do it.
Friendly fire? No radar?Threat warnings?
Traffic. Traffic Traffic.
Not a Blackhawk training flight. STOP with the inflammatory thumbs
When ATC gave the details at first and helicopter confirmed visual, do you think anyone on the helicopter crew actually saw that plane? They were about 5 nm apart then. Even an Eagle may have to take a second look. The helicopter crews could be in the habit of confirming visual to get the green for "the mission".
How can that be their training ground? They have their own airfields, no? I call bullshit.
I think these sort of close encounters happen almost on a daily and weekly basis in this airport. This accident was bound to happen.
Nothing I'm hearing this guy says gives me ANY confidence about WHY the military is training at an airport with commercial flights going in and out!! If anything, his words make me think this is NOT to place to do ANY "training". Mindlessly stupid!!
IT IS INCREDIBLY DUMB PERIOD TO HAVE MILITARY TRAINING EXERCISES ANYWHERE NEAR A AIRPORT END OF STORY. IN ADDITION DONT BOTH THE AMERICAN JET AND HELICOPTER BOTH HAVE RADAR THAT LETS THEM KNOW ANOTHER AIRCRAFT IS VERY NEAR THEIR PATH SO A COLLISION CAN BE AVOIDED?
They were on a route on a training flight. They weren't conducting random maneuvers right there. Just transiting during a training flight.
They were VFR.
Now matter what this bearded stone age guy is saying, I would not enter any plane going into the US and I think there are lots of pilots thinking the same and choosing to fly other routes. You deal with your problems first.
How much of taxpayer money is spent for the military in the USA? And this is the result. The Pentagon overspends and there are no audits.
No other country spends such a high percentage of their GDP for the military, and the result is that the American public infrastructure is severely lacking.
Less military spending would result in less enemies. Less tragedies like this. Every few weeks there are news of military aircrafts crashing etc.
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE . OXYMORON ! HERE'S SMART TAKE THIS HELICOPTER FLY THE WRONG WAY ON A ONE WAY TO A RUNWAY FOR COMMERCIAL AIRLINES . SOMETHING EVEN A DODO DOESN'T DO . AND THEIR FUNCTIONING ON A BIRDBRAIN !
If our drones require ADSB, maybe military aircraft should as well when in USA 🇺🇸
The wrong aircraft? So the helicopter crew turned in front of the aircraft they thought was the landing CRJ instead of passing behind it as instructed by ATC. This, then, was pilot deviation.
The tower will asking the helicopter to call the tower.
Yoou Militatry rule: if you cant meet the criteria, then change the criteria.
More important question is WHO THE F**K ARE YOU TO QUESTION DECADES OF FLIGHT OPERATIONS ?😂😂
because the decades of flight operations didn't work and should be questioned? did you notice notice there was a crash because the lesbian pilot had next to zero flight time and was flying at high speed in a commercial flight path?
@drakezen who are you to question them ?
@drakezen you know her personally ? SHE'S A QUALIFIED PILOT, WTF ARE YOU ?
@@davidgiles9651 She's not. Do you know her? No. Have I spoken to ACTUAL military pilots? Yes. Care to retort now big mouth?
@@davidgiles9651 a military expert. And you are...?
No reason for the helicopter to be at glide slope altitude while crossing the runways heading.
I think, right now, no one knows anything, we have to wait a few weeks, when the black boxes analyzed and all the info is in about the crash.
Until, it's just speculations!
What would the explanation be if it wasn't a helicopter - but an unidentified Drone that collided with the plane? What if that had happened? What possible explanation/excuse could be given?
Because your elected officials require it!!!!! They want constant protection. And they want to land as close to their offices as possible so, heaven forbid, they have to ride an hour from Dulles airport to their offices. This congestion is their fault.
The was unstructed toncgange the path on the last minute. All 67 would have been alive if the pilot insisted to stick with the plan / safety protocol
I wonder the same thing 🤔 I don't think it's a good idea to ask a pilot to switch runways in the final moments! Ridiculous and is only going to make the situation less safe.
Which plan? The CRJ was following the path to runway 33 that has been used hundreds of times.
@@barbarajohnson8968 Runway 33 does not have a full ILS system, for good reason. If it did the jets would be going right over the heliport. This procedure has been used hundreds of times. Should the helicopter pilots be prohibited from from crossing the approach path? Should the helicopter pilots be required to fly east until the reach 1000 feet?
Should the helicopters be required to fly IFR?
@AlbertHess-xy7ky watch WSJ minutes by minute . The jet pilot had to turn off the autopilot. That's wrong the pilot should just say HELL NO, am sticking w my path. No plane should ever be allowed to change so close to the landing. That asked for trouble!!
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky initially the CRJ was scheduled for runway 1 and during final approach was switched to 33. This may have been unnoticeable to the helo.
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Be normal, be sane, have common sense and don't lie to yourself might be a start.
It was an accident waiting to happen. It was just a matter of time. People have been saying it for years.
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I’m pretty sure Crew Chief McEathron is Ai generated!
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Great questions!
Any Driver out there should be Looking forward so a Pilot should definitely be Focused Forward when they are Fixing to Cross in front of a runway since a plane could be landing……The pilot had multiple warnings, and they Right into the plane.
Funny right after cuts are made disasters happen. Thos is almost like sabotage!
Cuts do not take place that quickly.
Really? You just said the military is incompetent. Which they are.
Just like the rest f us.
I absolutely agree. Bad bad idea.Double trouble!
Military unalived American civilians. Collateral damage.
Why would they use nigh vision goggles, knowing it has a narrow view and city lights can interfere with proper seeing, meanwhile knowing they're crossing a bussie commercial air traffic, where planes are landing or taking off?
It's like if I would use my cruise control in my car, driving in heavy traffic!
Nuts!
Risky flying should be practiced on simulators and not in real life!
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NO, “we” do NOT want training happening in “every airspace”. Stupid. 👎
Don't train anywhere near Washington?
@ hell no. Not anywhere near the very crowded airways. Did you NOT see the crash that just happened? How many more collisions do you want? For what? It’s stupid. Wasteful military spending on ‘defense’, which we all know is really OFFENSE.
It seems bloody stupid to me, & so many others, that the military would be doing maneuvers over a international airport at night, when they have their own training grounds,?? It's a crash waiting to happen,?? I suggest if the military have to put airliners in danger, DO IT IN DAYLIGHT hours,??
Another crew chief? That seems like such a simple suggestion. So much money putting into military and this seems like such an easy fix. Why wasnt there another crew chief in the back seat of the black hawk helicopter? This guy who was commenting seems to put a little bit if blame on the American Airline pilots but they seemed to be doing everything right....I do ahree though this was a Perfect Storm for catastrophe......
I already told you why