Y-axis turning: one tool for all turning operations
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2023
- Get to know all-directional Y-axis turning. A 3-axis simultaneous turning method, where the tool rotates around its own centre. The insert is placed for machining in the Y-Z plane and the milling spindle axis interpolates during turning. As a result, a complex shape or a pocket can be machined with one single tool.
In this demo you see CoroTurn Prime and CoroPlex YT tools in action performing this exciting machining method. - Наука та технологія
This is a great combination of the lathe and milling operation
I like how they've eliminated overhang like this. That's brilliant.
when y-axis cutoff blades were introduced I figured it was only a matter of time before general turning went y-axis. Although I wasn't expecting the mill spindle to rotate!
It was already there… CERATIZIT FreeTurn.
Trials of new tools and fantastic quality innovation
The innovation was done by CERATIZIT (Called FreeTurn)
That is awesome!
So rad 👍
Woah, just a few weeks ago I was wondering if anyone made a Y-axis tool that could rotate about its axis to maintain the lead angle. Very cool to see this in action.
It was already there… CERATIZIT FreeTurn.
Ceratizit free turn was first.
Believe me or not, but my dad invented this.
He works for CERATIZIT? I mean… FreeTurn
Id buy ut for sure.
I run WW2era machinea all day cuz Arbeit Macht Frei.
But them old machines can be clattering and banging looking beat to shit and still holding 1 or 2 ten-thousandths as if theiy have been rebuilt every 3 months their entire lives.
What im circuitously saying is the people who designed the stuff to make the stuff before comphter codes and robotic semi autonomous and now fully autonomous machines seriously knew theri shizzle.
And calculated that accuracy with slide rules and whatnot.
I thought trichoidial milling was cool, ima have to search the metal filings and chips for the truth of this newfangled fancy machine wrangling of 3 dimensional spatial relations.
Not right this second though
The brain is quickly approaching "uh hurrrrr derp de durrrr" energy, so were sleeping now.
Well in a few seconds
Yall understand
Maybe
Jeez i cant he coherent sometimes
Would it not be a nightmare to add wear comp along different axis?
Sandvik it's number 1 in world.
What color of sparks does that alloy make?
Looks so natural, why wouldn't u do it like this? Thanks for your innovations..
I would imagine it's a pain in the **** to machine tight tolerances with this many direction changes and different tool angles.
If there are more than 3 axis in a toolpath involved, machines start to get inaccurate at a certain point.
Would this be usable on an Ntrx-300?
My last year ordered dmg clx 450 tc will came in few week and just got offer from ceratizit for freeturn.
Last week iv got a big box full of tool holders from sandvik 4x silenttool boring bar and alot of external turning tools also one multitoll for primeturning.
Now when i saw this video i will also order this toll for my newest toy. Cant wait to test it
How do you like the tc? I got s clx 450 v6
CLX 450 TC is a really nice machine. I will probably buy one soon. But I’m not sure you can do like this in that machine. The B-axis are only able do index in fixed positions.
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Cycle for freeturn is option and cost 3200€ for clx tc, but you do not need it if you have cam program.
Mine come next month, i take it with all option i just dont take automatic door, cominicaton for robot and part catcher.
@@samuellindkvist i Think they only use the spindle axis
@@nikolaiownz I should do a sphere (balljoint) and my salesguy told me CLX TC can’t do that because of the B-axis is only indexable, and pointed me against a CTX or NTX. But you are 100% correct. They only use the spindle axis of course. But the form tolerance might be questionable? Would be interesting to run the profile in a contracer and see results.
So what is the advantage to this over general turning other than to keep the cutting edge normal to the surface? Definitely easier to rotate about the spindle axis rather than a rotary axis to achieve that.
Advantages are many! First one is that you get stable machining and really good chip control. This as Y-axis means main cutting forces are directed into the machine spindle, which provides high process stability. By keeping a constant entering angle during machining, chips can be controlled in an optimal way. And a second thing is that all operations and complex shapes or pockets can be machined with one single tool, with the benefits of reduced tool change time and tool inventory (just to mention a few )
Please read more on our website if you want to know more ( www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-gb/tools/turning-tools/external-turning-tools/coroplex-yt )
Yea its all about where cutting forces are directed. The V axis rotation is just showing off.
Se parece mucho a la freeturn de Ceratizit
Hi, what is that for a machine and what for a model? :) Index,Chiron?
Hi! The machine is a Index G420. Hope you like the video!
Hi, What are these toolpaths programmed with? could Siemens NX CAM generate these toolpaths?
Hi! This demo is made with Siemens NX with some 'hands on' modifications. Hope this answers your question!
@@sandvikcoromant Could you clarify or can I find somewhere what kind of 'hands on' modifications were necessary?
What we mean with "hands on modifications" is that we use a custom post processor developed for this purpose. If you want more information, please contact your Siemens NX, GibbsCam or your other CAM supplier for support. Note that machine must also have option for interpolation of milling spindle when turning.
Quali vantaggi ci sono nel tornire in Y muovendo "l'asse motorizzato" invece che farlo in X con testa tiltante?
Ciao! Rotating the tool around its own center gives much better access in complex components compared to machining in X and 'B-axis-turning'. Hope this answers your question!
Interesting product with combination of some existing solutions. And of course very nice video of machining. But unfortunately programming rotate tools when do cutting is not easy. I hope that will be executed with integration in CAM programs as Mastercam or ToolPath.
Yes, programming can be a bit tricky. However there are CAM softwares that support this already today. GibbsCAM is one of them. We recommend to reach out to your local Sandvik Coromant representative if you have specific requests on programming.
Это как бы само собой , что генератор траектории должен про такие финты быть в курсах ;)
@@101picofarad Да там и станок не должен быть удивлен таким финтам... Это надо что бы этот multitask станок умел вращать фрезерную голову на рабочей подаче при точении. Я вот встречал дискретное перемещение с фиксацией для точения в градусов так 5, если не больше. А уж про плавный переход значения корректора инструмента из одного положения в другое... Ну это прям коррекция токарного резца как как при 5-ти осевой фрезерной обработке
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Where can I get the cutters?
Hi Ron! Please find more information about the cutting tools and assortment on our website;
www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-gb/tools/tooling-systems/multi-task-machines-tooling/coroplex-yt
A little late to the party. Ceratizit developed this almost a year ago
This method idea has been around for some time, our first patent in the area is actually 20 yrs old. (patents.google.com/patent/EP1415742B1/en?oq=EP1415742B1)
Finally, now time is mature to bring great ideas to life with CAM support and machine capability available.
@@sandvikcoromant Yall been crushing it with the replies in your video comments. Lots of great info. Keep up the good work.