YUP remove res and remove corsair grab res passive which does nothing anyways and give it something useful I BEG haven't res a grab in 2yrs such a trash mechanic to bake into a classes kit even before grab pen passives
Happy you said this because i wasnt too sure how corsairs felt about it, I dont remember corsair grab res being noticeable since the resist cap changes but i didnt know if that was just my pov
yeah even before grab pen passives, i and most corsairs i know would rather have the option to cancel our whale skills early rather then rely on an RNG resist chance to outplay ur opponent after grab pen passives/res cap its just dumb cuz u cant cancel ur whales and ur grab res only works 5-15% of the time even with 150% res
Nuke I respect what your doing, and your a gamer on Corsair but ngl getting chased down by a unkillable mermaid in rbf, has made me contemplate hanging up the gloves on bdo PvP numerous times XD
As @goldsteinburg said I can dodge the grabs on my own, succ corsair has an button that I can use to bait grabs, remove the res, give us like an heal or accuracy debuff instead (also make our Ebuff useful, fuck do I need 50% resist on my E buff for)
I don’t know if you remember, gold, but I asked what I should do against block jump on another video. 12:00-12:30 is a mental breakthrough I had whilst learning awk warrior that has made the class feel so much more rewarding.
zerk is only annoying in group fights when you're mid combo and just get peeled by a grab from a zerk who just insta pops up on your screen. does counter grab until that mf is grabbing with 150+ ping now you in the air for 7 seconds. However, he is so punishable in 1v1s so i agree on him being mid, the class just excels in large scale
As a response to the question at the end of the video, personally i like the longer vod type of videos so i dont mind adding random fights like the one with the guardian in this case, more content is always good :)
i remember one night i spent a solid 2 hours trying to teach kythar a simple movement combo on sorc in BA and he never got it down.... buddy is doomed to just always be bad at the game
@17:13 yeah, shout outs to @mercernary and other Awaken Guardian Mains pumping out content (posting my progress as well). It's a super fun class and has tons of bait potential or so i'm learning especially in AOS. It's been such a pleasant class to learn and grow along with (if you can stomach the boring grinding) 👍
I was under the same opinion - because of playing a grabless class, I thought resists were needed in order to balance grabs. However, what I didn't realize is that against the classes I struggle the most - Zerker and Striker, grab resists literally doesn't do anything. So I'm only benefiting from grab resists against classes, I already do well against and on top of that, my CCs, most often when I have to recc constantly get resisted. So yeah... f resists. They are pointless against classes they should keep in check and actively nerf everyone else.
5s cd and 7s cd he said, gran has 15s cd, that mean you can use one to dodge the grab and you still have 4 more in rotation before your grab is back off cd
i'm more than halfway through this vid and i feel like i haven't really seen anyone mention that wizard gets grab resistance (along with every other kind) as a buff. they can also just fuckin PA after baiting a grab but that's another thing entirely. it takes a legitimate monkey to claim he "doesn't use it" when it's an active part of his kit whether he slots res crystals or not, especially when you consider that hooms + that buff and a nouver hits the pvp res cap. in saying that i understand his sentiment to a degree, that getting caught shouldn't result in resistances to follow, but... it's essentially one that entirely rolls over for the current state of pvp and the perma sa meta. of course his logic is that if you get cc'd from anything but a grab that you shouldn't res anything.... it takes about 3 brain cells to rotate sa on a caster. if you're failing at that and get caught........... lmao
Grabs are a read, he really saying you should get punished for making a read. Arguement for resist being in the game are all fucking jokes. No other way to say it. At the very least, all grabs that get resisted should immediately be SA. Removing pvp resist tho is 10x a better way to go about it. For example Ninja grab does a whole ass animation on resist where he does a backflip. Consequently, you aren't only getting potentially punished for missing/resist the grab but they have a longer window BECAUSE of the resist. The animation is fully unprotected and cant even properly out of it.
Hello @Goldsteinburg big fan! sorry to say it but at min 7:06 when you fight that guardian and complain about immune to kd you should look at his buff bar and see why that happened since ur a big pvp player.
Complete facts Gold if any of these players played a single competitive game in their life this shit would be second nature. I feel pvp is actually too easy in bdo alot of people suck.
thats the truth... which is how it is in most games, but in bdo the playerbase is so small that the low elo players have to fight higher elo, there isnt enough ROOM to create a gap, and they arent aware of the reality that the gap between bad and good players is INSANELY huge in games.
@@Goldsteinburg But aside from low elo players yapping I recently picked up warrior and it's super fun! I really love how smooth the class feels. In your opinion how do you feel warrior stacks up in 1v1s? I play my witch for group and large-scale.
Guardian being better than zerk is an actual no brainer. I think awak needs a revamp or something, I might be shit but I’m a dk, fighting that class with no grab is impossible. Class if fully protected with insane damage, long range grab and phat I frames
LOL he got called out on his nonsense so he tried to dodge and deflect by coming up with more nonsense. NGL, couldn't help but get a dejavu vibe coz of this hahaha How is it someone's narrative when that's just how resists work and therefore implemented for all players ? 🤣 It was a while back, when hash was new and didn't even have awk yet. We were in NW and so we formed up near an enemy fort on the Balenos mountains. I was assisting our frontline with the few ranged skills succ hash has since some of it has CC and debuff, and goes a good distance, which helps our fronters hold the line. The enemy also formed up and started trying to repel us. 2 of our frontliners who both happen to be Guardians got pushed back and both ended up somewhere in front of me, since I wasn't that far from them. I was in block/guard stance in between skills to avoid burning through my kit and not be able to throw down in case they enemy got close. They both tried to reposition by dashing but got bursted when the enemy pushed so they both died. One of them was ours while the other was the GM of an allied guild. For the rest of the war via voice, as well as after, the GM dude was mostly just 'educating' me and even included a lengthy essay (much like this comment, sorry bout that Gold hehe), specifically about the hash Q-block having an "invisible wall" bug that is quite wide and he specifically claimed that it blocks no-collision skills, all of which he confidently declared on discord, for the entire alliance to hear/see. I didn't think much of it at the time and even thanked him for letting me know, since that's pretty important info, specially if PA forgets to fix it, as well as if I'm gonna main the class. I then started to do some research on whether some of the NA/EU streamers who've also gotten into hash has mentioned this, and also made sure to try to look for any Korean streamers like Bloo and such, since the class was relatively new, so they'd prolly know more than the rest of us. Guess what... I couldn't find anything on it 😂 I instead asked my guildies to help me out in order to find out for ourselves and gauge how wide that "wall" was, with my 3-5 guildmates literally swapping through almost all of their characters, not just their guardians, to test out all the no-collision skills they could find, while I just stood in block stance, while in a party, while not in a party, during a duel, in town arena, in BA, etc. After a couple of days or so, I ended up just asking that allied GM for more info coz I couldn't find any about it and I also let him know that we were unable to replicate that wall bug, despite how much he explained it. I told him I needed to know coz I was kinda into hash that time, so I really wanted to know how wide that "wall" is, to help me estimate/adjust my positioning in team fights, moving forward. Lo and behold, he then tells me it wasn't really about the block bug, but instead was about positioning, more than anything else. 🤣 That's when it clicked in my brain, and I realized that his ego was just that brittle. I didn't try to roast him on the alliance discord and just told my guildies for us to just laugh it off and keep it between ourselves since we got along with his members. It was for naught tho, coz the alliance ultimately broke down the following month or so, coz he tried to pull similar crap on the other guilds in the alliance.
What a great story. In accordance with expectations of bdo players built from experience… i believe it without a doubtl lmao.. reading that was a great way to start my day thank u 🙏 i love peoples pettyness/egos
@@Goldsteinburg Eyy tyvm for taking the time to read it, as well as sorry for putting you through that Gold hehe, just that this vid jolted my memory. Been a few years now and I've yet to figure out why his ego even got triggered to begin with, since it's not like that was his /2nd/3rd/4th/5th death that nodewar, so I've yet to figure out what led to his ego activating in the first place 🤣
I'm sorry Kythar but yeah this arguement was being made by a person who uses the most broken 200% (Succ Zerker) in the game a skill capable of killing 20-50 people and he gets 1 or 2 or completely wiffs it.
I agree, resistance should be removed 100% it's make the game not "competitive" by being dependent to rng. and idk why the man really need the grab res that much when grab dependent class has grab penetration passive lol. but I feel like is not the counter to grab, I think is the way to avoid grab, not counter it. since also has animation time. so when we done our animation, the grab fail animation will also most likely ended and the grabber has the chance to go protection again.
yea, i agree about the thing, i guess as a warrior main since our grab has a long miss animation WE can get punished but most other classes such as ranger/tamer have unpunishable miss animations that allow them to freely throw grabs. PA should balance all grabs similarly
I enjoyed the whole video its good shit, this is Senpai_Myth btw always in ur stream love the content and agreed all res should be out of the game shit is bs and takes any type of skill out of it
I have x2 ignore grab and x2 ignore kd cause the game is a continuous RNG in pvp. I try to reduce that by crystals but.. sadly is not 0. Btw grab is only broken vs new people or people that doesnt know how to bait that grabs.
The game is just rng to the point it will bail people out. I have so many clips of me grabbing someone then mid slam animation I'm getting cc'd by the same guy. 😂😂
I don't think grab resists should be removed. But, I don't use them cause I don't pvp unless people push my spot.... btw... I divert all my pvp warrior recommendatiosn to you and am just here to troll...
the first time i say it that was the range, when i repeated it i didnt relize i stepped further away, ill upload the vid soon its 2x ranger grab range - i didnt realize warrior was as far as his is either until i tested them all, wariror was grabbing almost as far as woke hash lmao
"As brought up in this video, I will die on my hill saying Awakened Berserker is a mid class" Man finally someone fucking said it. For a community who love to abuse FoTM, and ALWAYS complain about Awk Zerk being broken, I sure don't see many people on him. Don't get me wrong there are way worse classes, but he isn't nearly as good as people cry about. Not many understand it's a very difficult class with very minimal protections, not much protected dmg (Most are FGs which will get you killed you in any large fight) and lots of openings when using our big burst skills. Can't wait to watch this when it goes live homie~
Awake zerk is in the same boat as succ ninja. It's fast and high APM so if the person is very comfortable and skilled with the class, the opponent has a hard time being reactive. The visual information they have on the opponent ninja/zerk isn't in sync with where the person actually is. The other side of that is that both classes are SUPER gappy and get caught in the middle of movement all the time.
People dont use awaken zerker that much because the class is way too fkin hard and not as rewarding as something like drak, but its dumb to say that the class is weak or mid, the class is definitely strong in the right hands but I wouldn't say game breaking broken like drak.
Most grab classes have bad catches compared to the grab unprotected cc fighting full sa classes. If you don't grab, you are trolling. It being a 2.0 is a horrible take they will literally just stand up immune to cc smh.
YUP remove res and remove corsair grab res passive which does nothing anyways and give it something useful I BEG
haven't res a grab in 2yrs such a trash mechanic to bake into a classes kit even before grab pen passives
Happy you said this because i wasnt too sure how corsairs felt about it, I dont remember corsair grab res being noticeable since the resist cap changes but i didnt know if that was just my pov
yeah even before grab pen passives, i and most corsairs i know would rather have the option to cancel our whale skills early rather then rely on an RNG resist chance to outplay ur opponent
after grab pen passives/res cap its just dumb cuz u cant cancel ur whales and ur grab res only works 5-15% of the time even with 150% res
Nuke I respect what your doing, and your a gamer on Corsair but ngl getting chased down by a unkillable mermaid in rbf, has made me contemplate hanging up the gloves on bdo PvP numerous times XD
LOL im sorry gamer
As @goldsteinburg said I can dodge the grabs on my own, succ corsair has an button that I can use to bait grabs, remove the res, give us like an heal or accuracy debuff instead (also make our Ebuff useful, fuck do I need 50% resist on my E buff for)
I don’t know if you remember, gold, but I asked what I should do against block jump on another video. 12:00-12:30 is a mental breakthrough I had whilst learning awk warrior that has made the class feel so much more rewarding.
zerk is only annoying in group fights when you're mid combo and just get peeled by a grab from a zerk who just insta pops up on your screen. does counter grab until that mf is grabbing with 150+ ping now you in the air for 7 seconds. However, he is so punishable in 1v1s so i agree on him being mid, the class just excels in large scale
Like most classes better when you can't hard focus them
only if ppl are on equal ping, but not much PA can do about that.
As a response to the question at the end of the video, personally i like the longer vod type of videos so i dont mind adding random fights like the one with the guardian in this case, more content is always good :)
i remember one night i spent a solid 2 hours trying to teach kythar a simple movement combo on sorc in BA and he never got it down.... buddy is doomed to just always be bad at the game
Sounds like half the idiots running around on console ngl..
@@DramaLlam4😂hey
@@DramaLlam4You're one of them.
saddest part is wiz has a grab... just play awake ....he doesn't even know his own class
I enjoy the longer videos like this bro. Makes a really good video to watch while grinding 🤣
@17:13 yeah, shout outs to @mercernary and other Awaken Guardian Mains pumping out content (posting my progress as well). It's a super fun class and has tons of bait potential or so i'm learning especially in AOS. It's been such a pleasant class to learn and grow along with (if you can stomach the boring grinding) 👍
I was under the same opinion - because of playing a grabless class, I thought resists were needed in order to balance grabs. However, what I didn't realize is that against the classes I struggle the most - Zerker and Striker, grab resists literally doesn't do anything. So I'm only benefiting from grab resists against classes, I already do well against and on top of that, my CCs, most often when I have to recc constantly get resisted. So yeah... f resists. They are pointless against classes they should keep in check and actively nerf everyone else.
5s cd and 7s cd he said, gran has 15s cd, that mean you can use one to dodge the grab and you still have 4 more in rotation before your grab is back off cd
i'm more than halfway through this vid and i feel like i haven't really seen anyone mention that wizard gets grab resistance (along with every other kind) as a buff. they can also just fuckin PA after baiting a grab but that's another thing entirely. it takes a legitimate monkey to claim he "doesn't use it" when it's an active part of his kit whether he slots res crystals or not, especially when you consider that hooms + that buff and a nouver hits the pvp res cap. in saying that i understand his sentiment to a degree, that getting caught shouldn't result in resistances to follow, but... it's essentially one that entirely rolls over for the current state of pvp and the perma sa meta. of course his logic is that if you get cc'd from anything but a grab that you shouldn't res anything.... it takes about 3 brain cells to rotate sa on a caster. if you're failing at that and get caught........... lmao
Grabs are a read, he really saying you should get punished for making a read. Arguement for resist being in the game are all fucking jokes. No other way to say it. At the very least, all grabs that get resisted should immediately be SA. Removing pvp resist tho is 10x a better way to go about it.
For example Ninja grab does a whole ass animation on resist where he does a backflip. Consequently, you aren't only getting potentially punished for missing/resist the grab but they have a longer window BECAUSE of the resist. The animation is fully unprotected and cant even properly out of it.
Hello @Goldsteinburg big fan! sorry to say it but at min 7:06 when you fight that guardian and complain about immune to kd you should look at his buff bar and see why that happened since ur a big pvp player.
eh after fighting for an hour or more on stream you're gonna miss the buff bar when the resists are happening the entire time lol
Complete facts Gold if any of these players played a single competitive game in their life this shit would be second nature. I feel pvp is actually too easy in bdo alot of people suck.
thats the truth... which is how it is in most games, but in bdo the playerbase is so small that the low elo players have to fight higher elo, there isnt enough ROOM to create a gap, and they arent aware of the reality that the gap between bad and good players is INSANELY huge in games.
@@Goldsteinburg But aside from low elo players yapping I recently picked up warrior and it's super fun! I really love how smooth the class feels. In your opinion how do you feel warrior stacks up in 1v1s? I play my witch for group and large-scale.
Guardian being better than zerk is an actual no brainer. I think awak needs a revamp or something, I might be shit but I’m a dk, fighting that class with no grab is impossible. Class if fully protected with insane damage, long range grab and phat I frames
Damn bro he's not even EU/german and puts them to shame....
LOL he got called out on his nonsense so he tried to dodge and deflect by coming up with more nonsense. NGL, couldn't help but get a dejavu vibe coz of this hahaha How is it someone's narrative when that's just how resists work and therefore implemented for all players ? 🤣
It was a while back, when hash was new and didn't even have awk yet. We were in NW and so we formed up near an enemy fort on the Balenos mountains. I was assisting our frontline with the few ranged skills succ hash has since some of it has CC and debuff, and goes a good distance, which helps our fronters hold the line. The enemy also formed up and started trying to repel us. 2 of our frontliners who both happen to be Guardians got pushed back and both ended up somewhere in front of me, since I wasn't that far from them. I was in block/guard stance in between skills to avoid burning through my kit and not be able to throw down in case they enemy got close. They both tried to reposition by dashing but got bursted when the enemy pushed so they both died. One of them was ours while the other was the GM of an allied guild. For the rest of the war via voice, as well as after, the GM dude was mostly just 'educating' me and even included a lengthy essay (much like this comment, sorry bout that Gold hehe), specifically about the hash Q-block having an "invisible wall" bug that is quite wide and he specifically claimed that it blocks no-collision skills, all of which he confidently declared on discord, for the entire alliance to hear/see. I didn't think much of it at the time and even thanked him for letting me know, since that's pretty important info, specially if PA forgets to fix it, as well as if I'm gonna main the class. I then started to do some research on whether some of the NA/EU streamers who've also gotten into hash has mentioned this, and also made sure to try to look for any Korean streamers like Bloo and such, since the class was relatively new, so they'd prolly know more than the rest of us. Guess what... I couldn't find anything on it 😂 I instead asked my guildies to help me out in order to find out for ourselves and gauge how wide that "wall" was, with my 3-5 guildmates literally swapping through almost all of their characters, not just their guardians, to test out all the no-collision skills they could find, while I just stood in block stance, while in a party, while not in a party, during a duel, in town arena, in BA, etc. After a couple of days or so, I ended up just asking that allied GM for more info coz I couldn't find any about it and I also let him know that we were unable to replicate that wall bug, despite how much he explained it. I told him I needed to know coz I was kinda into hash that time, so I really wanted to know how wide that "wall" is, to help me estimate/adjust my positioning in team fights, moving forward. Lo and behold, he then tells me it wasn't really about the block bug, but instead was about positioning, more than anything else. 🤣 That's when it clicked in my brain, and I realized that his ego was just that brittle. I didn't try to roast him on the alliance discord and just told my guildies for us to just laugh it off and keep it between ourselves since we got along with his members. It was for naught tho, coz the alliance ultimately broke down the following month or so, coz he tried to pull similar crap on the other guilds in the alliance.
What a great story. In accordance with expectations of bdo players built from experience… i believe it without a doubtl lmao.. reading that was a great way to start my day thank u 🙏 i love peoples pettyness/egos
@@Goldsteinburg Eyy tyvm for taking the time to read it, as well as sorry for putting you through that Gold hehe, just that this vid jolted my memory. Been a few years now and I've yet to figure out why his ego even got triggered to begin with, since it's not like that was his /2nd/3rd/4th/5th death that nodewar, so I've yet to figure out what led to his ego activating in the first place 🤣
I'm sorry Kythar but yeah this arguement was being made by a person who uses the most broken 200% (Succ Zerker) in the game a skill capable of killing 20-50 people and he gets 1 or 2 or completely wiffs it.
Yooo been noticing. Your in-game setting. Care to share? Like the effect and stuff.
I agree, resistance should be removed 100% it's make the game not "competitive" by being dependent to rng. and idk why the man really need the grab res that much when grab dependent class has grab penetration passive lol.
but I feel like is not the counter to grab, I think is the way to avoid grab, not counter it. since also has animation time. so when we done our animation, the grab fail animation will also most likely ended and the grabber has the chance to go protection again.
yea, i agree about the thing, i guess as a warrior main since our grab has a long miss animation WE can get punished but most other classes such as ranger/tamer have unpunishable miss animations that allow them to freely throw grabs. PA should balance all grabs similarly
Kythar's responses while watching this video really shows how dense he is
I enjoyed the whole video its good shit, this is Senpai_Myth btw always in ur stream love the content and agreed all res should be out of the game shit is bs and takes any type of skill out of it
I have x2 ignore grab and x2 ignore kd cause the game is a continuous RNG in pvp. I try to reduce that by crystals but.. sadly is not 0. Btw grab is only broken vs new people or people that doesnt know how to bait that grabs.
The game is just rng to the point it will bail people out. I have so many clips of me grabbing someone then mid slam animation I'm getting cc'd by the same guy. 😂😂
The Final Fantasy 10 music had me dead lmao
this is the content BDO needs
Kythar actually is a bot idk why anyone would let him join their guild let alone take a nw spot.. LMAO
he was kicked after this
he also doesn't use consumables like elixir rotation and sometimes not even giant, hes a giga griefer tbh
Kythar when people tell him he sucks
Don't ask Kythar about his opinion on women on beaches.
I don't think Kythar is actually THAT dumb but he does enjoy pissing people off for whatever reason.
well i think he got himself perma banned on twitch after watching this video on his stream and doubling down on the racism lmao
@@Goldsteinburg Apparently he only got banned until the 26th
True if we want change boycotting/up voting posts in mass is required.
Btw.... I-Rok-Ready Player One.... thats the outfit im tellin you.
Lol someone already told me on stream that my zerk is I-rok was that you haha
You think talking to kythar about what works in bdo and what doesn't is a good idea ? 😭😭💀💀
Combat mentioned!
I hate resistance especially in aos... they should allow food and tent buff to make ignore resist higher
Spacing and baiting CDs is so important! This is wild lol
Kythar and having bad pvp takes name a better duo
I don't think grab resists should be removed. But, I don't use them cause I don't pvp unless people push my spot....
btw... I divert all my pvp warrior recommendatiosn to you and am just here to troll...
tamer can't grab from that far. her grab range is similar to rangers. you were exaggerating it
the first time i say it that was the range, when i repeated it i didnt relize i stepped further away, ill upload the vid soon its 2x ranger grab range - i didnt realize warrior was as far as his is either until i tested them all, wariror was grabbing almost as far as woke hash lmao
yeah warrior has good grab range as well@@Goldsteinburg
White manos belt + kutum enjoyer
Bro was gaming on that zerk tho im ngl
I love it!
good stuff
Wtf I just check and it un fucking subscribed me -Vytraa p.s. LOOK MA I MADE IT INTO A GOLDSTEINBURG VIDEO
kythar a lil wild
I need more of these lol
oh yeah… here we go
Oh dear
wasnt even funny racism either just weird cringe
all racism is cringe
remove every resist but grab, when the game turned to 99% protected dmg/cc bs game nowdays
"As brought up in this video, I will die on my hill saying Awakened Berserker is a mid class" Man finally someone fucking said it. For a community who love to abuse FoTM, and ALWAYS complain about Awk Zerk being broken, I sure don't see many people on him. Don't get me wrong there are way worse classes, but he isn't nearly as good as people cry about. Not many understand it's a very difficult class with very minimal protections, not much protected dmg (Most are FGs which will get you killed you in any large fight) and lots of openings when using our big burst skills. Can't wait to watch this when it goes live homie~
Awake zerk is in the same boat as succ ninja. It's fast and high APM so if the person is very comfortable and skilled with the class, the opponent has a hard time being reactive. The visual information they have on the opponent ninja/zerk isn't in sync with where the person actually is. The other side of that is that both classes are SUPER gappy and get caught in the middle of movement all the time.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator Agreed!
People dont use awaken zerker that much because the class is way too fkin hard and not as rewarding as something like drak, but its dumb to say that the class is weak or mid, the class is definitely strong in the right hands but I wouldn't say game breaking broken like drak.
Grab shouldn't be all class does then wins like they should make grab 2.0 cc
Most grab classes have bad catches compared to the grab unprotected cc fighting full sa classes. If you don't grab, you are trolling. It being a 2.0 is a horrible take they will literally just stand up immune to cc smh.
grab classes need the grab to kill their opponent the majority of the time, the non grab classes can just kill you standing
You already know clipping him saying those things is putting words in his mouth
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Mental patient…
You already know he's going to say clipping him saying those things is putting words in his mouth*
@@seabass9043 lol thats exactly how i read it the first time figured that's what u meant, yeah he already started doing that lol
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na is wild i hope they delete the servers and gg for everyone ...
Loved it! perfect video to watch while working!
I love resist! 🕺