Watch US Marine’s GoPro footage that challenges Pentagon’s account of attack at Kabul airport
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
- Video obtained by CNN significantly undermines two Pentagon investigations, the latest of which was released last week, into an ISIS-K suicide attack outside Kabul airport in August 2021. #CNN #News
wait CNN reporting an actual story? the fuck? am I dead?
The LA Clippers won the NBA Championship, Joe Biden is speaking in complete sentences, and Zelensky stopped begging for money and hit a late growth spurt pushing him over 5 foot 4.
CCTV - Always is open about Chinese military failures, Xi's corruption
RT - Always very open about Russias illegal invasion of Ukraine, the kidnapping of 20,000 children, etc
Al Jazeera - Always super unbiased when it comes to Israel, Europe and the US and Christians
CNN - LITERALLY SATAN
theyre proly covering up something bigger
@@joshlord7631setting up positions to blame Donald trump in a few months
They know they can’t even protect Biden anymore
Today I learned that there are people still trusting the Pentagon to investigate themselves.
Proof?
Hes more honest than democrats @mudderofgod7762
@@hector5749Google.
Hope this helps 😊👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Democrats saying Biden is too old to be prosecuted for crimes he committed but he's not too old to run for POTUS.
Meanwhile Trump doing this same crimes....
@mudderofgod7762 ^
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The right hand has investigated the left hand, and determined that he who controls both hands is not guilty. Good show gentlemen.
Very accurate, surely the savvy people in this comments section aren't dumb enough to trust CNN as well.
More Americans need to be drafted
@@doctorpanigrahi9975 not our war
@@doctorpanigrahi9975spotted a 👃
@@lasvegasbeetit is, the US is the world police🤣
Goes into an interview with beer bottle in hand and crying, a true marine that definitely doesn’t have PTSD
made up of sponge?
and the US government gaslighting them saying it didn't happen, just icing on the cake.
@@jahshjahsh2002 sh child, adults speaking
@@jasonbrownjournoThat's ironic
@@OrwellianDystopia1984 spare us lame irony, unironically tho
Where has this level of reporting been for the past decade?
Only because they are going to blame Trump
@@hector5749 Doha Accord is the surrender agreement inked by Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo. They surrendered like naive children to the TBan on May 1, 2021
Wiki leaks
Viki leckkcks
Yes. You should become a CNN fan now.
Imagine showing actual WAR FOOTAGE on UA-cam but censoring the "bad words" used by the soldiers 😂 I'll never get that.
It's like anything else that's made more child friendly. God forbid they say a curse word but nudity or dudes talking about their dick on commercials when watching children shows on streaming services is cool.
I’m sure there’s a lot of things you don’t understand.
"Sorry sir, this is a christian news outlet so please no swearing."
Blame the advertisers for that one.
That's the funny thing about americans
Showing nudity and violence
But censoring themselves and using child-like language like "the f word" or "the n word" 🤣
I can't believe no radio chat was had, no sergeants giving commands...truly a chaotic surprise.
lol. That’s our military now All branches. We are doomed
Thats the key part of small unit tactics on a defended objective. Those up top are not part of barking orders because the situation is chaotic and they can't control it at all. The guys right there call the shots and they debrief after.
@@GoldenAura32 this makes no sense There was no one in charge there. Chain of command broke down instantly. Have you ever served, much less served in combat? I doubt it
ADP 6-0 covers mission command. In short, it describes how (army at least) takes action when no seniors tell you what to do
It's because if you have to call up your officers it takes about 30 minutes to 50 minutes to get an all clear to fire. So instead you just protect yourself and deal with the situation at hand.
The second injured guy who shit back has PTSD dude n the government is not gonna give a shit about this man. This actually pisses me off
Imagine being the last in a long 20 year line of broken young men from the sandbox. You're right but it's worse, for all that society didn't give a shit about them as it happened, now they're in a world where exactly no one gives a shit and has long moved on.
That kid was probably born as the first ODA's got their boots onto the ground there.
@@ajc5930what you have to ask your self why keep joining wars if no one cares about you
My sis joined the Army as a veterinarian technician and spent 13 months in Iraq, stationed at Al Asad from Sep. 2006-Dec. 2007. She went straight from high school, went to a university and then dropped out, joined the Army in September 2005 and chose the expedited route to boot camp. Straight off to Ft. Leonard Wood and then to Ft. Bragg. My senior year, 2005-2006 I was just amazed and scared for her. She told me about having to put down stray animals on the base and treating the K9s for injuries out in the field. She ended up addicted to Ambien after she told the medics she couldn’t sleep and drinking smuggled in whiskey by the national guard guys that were there. Damn, she is tough as fuck. Now she’s a prison guard and has already broken up a few fights and saved a guy from jumping off a mezzanine in the prison to commit suicide. I don’t know how she does it.
@@bugwild1544 part of me wants to say “fuck you” but the other half is in agreement. There are people that are built differently than us civilians that have something inside them that gives them the strength to make this sacrifice, but I’m sure a lot of it is recruiters bullshitting potential enlisted men and women to think they’ll make a lot of money and protect their country. I wish my sister never joined and never had to go over to Iraq. I can tell she’s much different from the sister that I grew up with for 17 years.
Bugwild
People join wars cause they think it’s moral and ethical. Remember fdr moved the fleet to Hawaii cause he knew without an attack the U.S. woudknt join ww2. Remember ww1 the Uk let a merchant ship be sunk by Germany to let Americans die. The U.S. moved weapons to the UK so Germany had every right to sink the ship. But Germany killing a hundred plus Americans helped make Americans want to join ww1.
The Pentagon would never lie to the American people...would they?
@@Assassinsam353they didn't know? lmao, what flavor is the koolaid?
@@Assassinsam353they didn't know? With their unlimited sources, manpower and money they didn't know? What do you smoke, son?
Oh my sweet summer child...
Never.
@@Assassinsam353 its not didn't know they know it but wont show you
its wild how dumb some people are thinking that the video of 43 shots means that there were ever only 43 shots fired.
Yep. I did a poo.
If current events are just lies today. How much of recorded history is just bs?
The reporter in the video says "At least 43 shots were fired." Meaning that there were likely more shots fired than the 43 that were heard on video. So who says that there was only 43 shots fired?
if the go pro footage was on for the whole event and the fact you can hear gun fire from miles away 43 is a pretty good indicator on total shots fired.
sorry to be calling people dumb, it just kind of urked me when i saw some people talking like there was only 43 shots ever fired
I’m surprised CNN did some actual reporting. This also begs the question, why are they trying to cover this up? Why not just be honest about it? Who stands to lose if they were honest?
It's not very well known but they coordinate very closely.
CNN is basically state media.
The likely explanation is that U.S., British, and/or Taliban forces exchanged fire with each other, or with what they thought was the enemy but was not. Each individual soldier has the ability to kill. If you investigate and publish the truth from every incident collateral damage by frightened and shellshocked infantrymen, the nation’s ability to fight wars would suffer. People can’t accept that 19-year old scared-for-their-lives GI’s with ringing in their ears from a bomb going off and confusion all around them might hit a bunch of civvies with enfilading fire in the minutes after detonation.
This is why I hate war. But this isn’t like what Israel is doing in Gaza.
@@ahegazy9434I'd buy a conspiracy that this is the US government trying to repair the reputation of their now puppet media.
@@ahegazy9434 That's bullshit and you know it, they're corporate media not state media, although the corporations own every media station, and the only ones they dont own are batshit insane people who would rather misdirect you from the real enemy, the rich
they either made some big mistake that would make them look really bad and/or put some people in jail, or the investigation would reveal some covert/illegal operation they were/are doing.
This is one of the only unbiased reporting work done by CNN ever
I agree LoliPolice-bf7mw
Cmon now, there's plenty of such reportings about different topics on this channel with their own efforts of investigative journalism.
It's just that most people today, like yourself have their personal agendas and heavy biases.
So,you just only applaud when the report is in accordance, and scream when it isn't
@@udaykadam5455 this fr
The government lied to us?
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
I don’t want to appear ignorant, (Okay, I’m ignorant) but is this an English phrase? What does Jack have to do with this? Like Jack, I’m not surprised. I would like to meet Jack, I’m an American immigrant in Portugal.
Your just now questioning the government, at this day and age ?
@@1980syuppie I’ve been questioning the government for 35 years. And it’s “you’re.”
@@sandienochs6132 It’s a reference to the book/movie Fight Club. If you haven’t read it or seen the movie it’s absolutely worth the time.
@@sandienochs6132 don´t try to shoot anyione in Portugal or the rest of Europe please
This is real news. Eye witness accounts, straight facts. No dramatic music and most importantly no opinionated trash from Don Lemon.
More of this please.
Watch the shawn ryan show, he and an Afghan talk about what lead up to this and what really happened
@@Itsme-mx5tlread Kabul. You’ll be infinitely pissed off on every page
Well there is dramatic music but it sounds real good so understandable not noticing it but yes this is good
Ironically it was the Republican Party which chose to not televise the Afghan and Iraq wars because they were afraid of a counter-culture pushback like Vietnam. No one wanted veterans throwing their medals over the white house fence again.
I got dramatic music 30 seconds in lol 😅
Mad hugs to these Marines and other service members! I'm sorry y'all went through that and I hope you all are holding up as best you can.
😂😂
The kid at the barber just broke my heart... I really hope he is Ok..
Every vet including myself has known this for years now but the public would rather listen to bs and lies now everyone is seeing what we’ve been saying
I need to also say that after a blast goes off it is nearly impossible to tell if it’s a singular event or the start of hard contact. I’m sure marines saw Taliban with weapons amongst a crowd and in the fog of what happened just started letting off rounds at them thinking they were the instigators of the suicide attack
@@adamf6582Why would the Taliban be using M4s? Those shots all sound like they came from the same rifle model. Seems to me like they were just Marines shooting at each other in the confusion. And that's the type of thing the Pentagon usually hides, too.
@@dr.victorvs Taliban took over 2 thousand m4’s from the afghan security forces commando armory, we left behind so much equipment that was supposed to be for afghan military and they fuckin just gave up their arms to the taliban once we informed them we were pulling out of country. besides that yeah well I’m not discounting that it was our marines as they were green as hell with zero combat experience so I wouldn’t be surprised if after the blast they started opening up on a crowd thinking the Taliban instigated. Something an experienced unit would’ve assessed, and refrained.
@@adamf6582 Im confident the marines didn't shoot at un-armed women and children or just shooting randomly. Beyond that, I wont judge any marine that felt a need to shoot to protect himself.
@@adamf6582I mean, even if they weren't green, that's the sort of tragedy that occurs in war. No amount of training can keep all of them from happening. It's just a shitty situation all around and I get why the Pentagon wouldn't want to throw them under the bus, if it really was that.
I'd rather take the words from a service member who was there than a government official who came from the Pentagon.
A few of them have told their story on the Shawn Ryan Show
It's so crazy though, sounds so counter-intuitive, even though it's true.
1:47 That kid running with his mom broke my heart, I truly hope to God he's safe somewhere
Now imagine millions just like him in Palestine
@@sneakytacos773or on Oct 7th...nice shades of gray, man.
@@HonestBiden no bombs were used on Oct 7, so no.
@@sneakytacos773 oh so bombs are the only way children die?
@@sneakytacos773Hmmmmm, no. What I clearly remember was Palestine dancing, cheering and partying in the street after 2,977 people were killed. Those children cheered for terrorism. They are the adults now that festered in their ideologies.
I feel zero sympathy for terrorists and their sympathizers.
From 170 total killed, to 145 killed on their registry
then 50 killed from gun shot wounds to over half killed from gun shot wounds
Which is it?
yeah that part of the video kinda just contradicted itself, really confused on what even happened. I would assume in this situation (Lots of people, military around, and a fucking explosion) that people being shot on both sides would be pretty common and partly expected. it's chaos lol
I had to rewatch it a few times to kinda figure what what he was talking about, and I gathered that he personally had pulled at least 50 bullets out of patients; and out of the 170 people the pentagon said to have died from the bomb, the doctor actually estimates 145 people died from over-all gunfire.
Seems like he meant 145 at his hospital specifically, the 50 is probably just what they felt confident in stating over the doctors number which probably isn't easily verifiable especially so long after the fact. Could also be a case of a person who was probably very overwhelmed at the time misremembering some ultimately minor details.
@@adrianlebit9226 I agree, and you can’t even really blame them for that either when those kinds of conditions are literally dropped on them and then publicly told “nuh uh! didn’t happen” for two years
They have no fucking clue what they’re talking about Taliban were carrying m16s that shoot 5.56 as well and were seen by dozens of marines executing people trying to escape and murdering people right in front of marines that couldn’t do anything because they were told to stand down by Bidens administration. Multiple marines mentioned having bullets splashing on the bulletproof glass on their turrets and were told not to return fire
That young Marines account of hearing round snapping around him and muzzle flashes in his sector after the initial blast confirms that this camp was definitely attacked in a coordinated manner
Seems they’re trying to say all the fire was coming from our boys. But that marine they had on the Shawn Ryan Show confirmed he saw fire coming from outside buildings
Nobody says snap unless they know.
Bunch of 18yr old marines were sitting ducks at that airport, they didn’t know what to do. They were playing high school football the year earlier.
@@jimmystrickland1034 Those Marines were trained for such a moment that’s not true; infantry Marines are called infantry Marines for a reason; they are trained for combat, age regardless
@@jayt5346Can't train for bad leadership. The CIC chestered his own daughter.
now THIS is the kind of journalism we want from CNN.
edit: this is the most popular comment Ive ever had. who knew disagreement was so good for popularity lol
The Tides are turning, CNN seems to be moving away from the corruption.
Hey I wasn't no isis key it was a f****** massod del motto means exactly that by way of war we shall deceive IDF operators for all over Afghanistan sometimes the Taliban sometimes disguise as us
Don't forget now Donald Trump was blamed for this😊 Donald Trump wanted the troops out of there it don't matter you still going to get the blame for this too
@@joejose8433 He wasn't even in office when this happened.
@@joejose8433 yeah and blame biden for the fall of kabul
you will never understand what goes on in your head unless you have been in that.
My girlfriend’s best friend was raped by a soldier on a base here in Florida, and took him to court to get him charged. Because it happened on a base it was taken to military court. She had a video clearly showing the rape footage. And there was more than enough evidence. The judge said and I quote “ if this had been anywhere else he would be changed immediately but as far as we can see nothing wrong has been done here. And now she has ptsd and you can clearly see it when you hang out wit her. So now she’s wasting her time trying to appeal it when I personally believe she will get the same result. When it comes to politicians and military, you people beleive all the lies they tell us. Once you stop believing the lies, we can then have hope for a better future and even then it’s such a slim chance.
Hope you guys can get the man charged good luck
❤🙏😢
The most journalistic thing on CNN in years. Thank you!
They probably fact checked many people who had said different things earlier and even had them banned on some platforms for spreading misinformation for telling the truth.
Why? What does this video actually prove? Just says that the Pentagon said “this many bullets fired”, and this video says “actually, this many bullets fired”. It doesn’t make any definitive claims of anything different or significant.
I think it's funny that people dismiss CNN's previous journalism because they went against Trump's lies lol
@@0IIIIII Shows the validity of the Pentagons investigation, and how quick they are to cover things up. I don't think the CNN knows how these rifles work, but from what I'm seeing the Pentagons investigation was completely false.
@@charliekelly735 what does this video actually prove? Explain it to me. All it does is just dispute a narrative of events, not that anything is different or important.
man I hope Sanchez can come to peace. It's clear that dude is traumatized.
We all are.
@@DanBaker108 hilarious
should not have been there in first place.
@@AdolfMexicolaugh behind you're screen because in person I'd have you begging
Well he very likely shot innocent civilians while he was injured from the blast.
Shoutout to the marines who had to negotiate that absolute disaster of a situation
Here's to hoping they have family and friends to comfort them
Did the Pentagon review the same footage presented in this report? That’s a critical piece of information.
This is called "investigative journalism"...great job to the team that puts this up. Bless the souls that had to reopen those unnecessary wounds.
Yea 3 years later
Watch the shawn ryan show and Afghan talks about what led up to this and what really happened.
No. This is called “THEIR JOB”.
They actually do what they’re supposed to do…one time…and you turn into a fanboi?!?
“Great job team!”
“Bless those souls….you finally did your job!”
🙄
Virtue signaling is gross.
Grow up.
@sendthis9480 lmaooooo brother you were so heated, you had to edit your comment. 💀
@@Golgari213
Ummm…since when has spell-checking yourself meant you’re “so upset”???
Lame attempt kid.
Grow up.
(Uh oh! I edited my comment. I must be “so upset” 🙄.
Needy kids)
Now this is the kind of journalism we actually need
yes coming directly from a liberal non bias source right?
Election is coming... Ha ha...
@@0bserver146 you have mental illness if you think airing military footage that runs contrary to the government narrative is build up for the coming election. get real.
Julian Assange's situation reminds us all that journalism is no more . The criminals get protected , get book deals , get helped out by the powers that be while the brave journalist willing to put it all on the life / sacrifice for Truth gets locked away , lied about , blackmailed , has multiple assassination attempts on their life ...
Not saying anything new here -- sometimes I just have to remind myself that the border is wide open and the illegals , especially the criminal ones and cartels are rewarded while tax payers are left to fend for themselves or themselves attacked . Their tax dollars are sent to protect borders of even MORE corrupt nations halfway around the world almost as if to rub in the hypocrisy and demoralizations .
If they can get away with all of these countless decades worth of war crimes , funding terror in order to pretend to fight them , dealing narcotics to their own populations , etc .. What _else_ are they getting away with that we will never know about ? Heck would such evil crooked monsters let the people actually vote on _anything_ outside of their control ..?
The sounds of those gunshots at times reminded me of the Las Vegas shooting that still has no believable answers . Lead by the same federal investigator who is handling the fires in Hawaii . . How dark is all of this , exactly ..? It just seems like more than just greed and opportunism -- it seems like deliberate meticulously orchestrated methods to perfectly rob , demoralize and topple a so-called free nation that is supposed to have Representative Government . Do you feel represented lately ?
@@ajd_chewwomp womp you’re fun at parties
When was this made because I saw all these clips years ago.
Being A U.S. Naval veteran,this doesn't surprise me.There's a reason we have things like age limits on things like smoking and drinking that's because a young brain isn't mentally or emotionally able to cope with extremely stressful situations such as this.
My heart goes out to these young men,and I hope that they are able to come to terms with something that they are not to blame for.
Marine Vet here, I appreciate your outstanding reporting. This is the best journalism that I’ve ever seen from CNN! Regardless of what happened that day, we deserve accountability for all those lives lost, as well as the massive security fumble by our administration that allowed this to happen in the first place!
1. You do not have any video of Americans shooting civilians.
2. Some of the Taliban also carried American weapons. The point is, if you hear what sounds to be an American weapon, it is not 100% certain it was an American pulling the trigger.
3. Because many of the Taliban did not wear conventional uniforms -- most simply wearing civilian clothes -- when you take the weapon out of their hands, they look like civilians. The point is, some of them might have been in firefights where Americans legitimately defended themselves, but the person's weapon was left behind.
4. With all of that said, the U.S. military is held to a higher standard. They should analyze the video -- that they
-- like us -- are discovering for the first time.
5. Oh, by the way, CNN, I did not hear who set off the initial blast, which attributed to more than 130 indescriminate deaths. But that is boring. Who cares about that, right? It is more salacious and will garner more viewers if you can smear the "good cops," dirty-up the "good guys." I mean, the Taliban needs to get on with oppressing women and girls and r-ping boys. Those are facts. That's Afghan culture.
I seriously doubt the white house knew of a single suicide bombers intention. Disarray is what happens when you lose yet another war and are running away
@@matthewmcdermit8744 please move this up to the top of the feed a couple times.
Which administration? It was Trump’s administration who negotiated the withdrawal and imposed a ridiculous timeline. If they had done any serious planning in the months leading up to it, instead of, you know, plotting to overthrow the fucking election, maybe it would’ve gone smoother. By the time Biden’s butt was in the chair the Taliban were already in control of half the country and gaining ground by the day. The only responsible thing left to do was withdraw. Everyday we were in country was another day the war was being needlessly dragged out. It was OVER. 20 years of blood and treasure down the crapper. And everybody knew it. What happened in that airport was the nigh inevitable result of 20 years of hubris and wishful thinking, compounded by greed and jingoistic bloodlust, and even made worse by the chaos on the ground and the fact that you had newbies working the fence.
And while it is undeniable that some Marines that day acted with honor and professionalism under the worst circumstances, it is also clear, from the sound of gunfire in this video and the testimony of Afghan survivors, that some of your guys completely lost their shit and started firing at phantoms. The story of this war in a nutshell: young stupid kids signing up for war practically as old as they are, not understanding a damn thing about it or the part of the world they’re going to. Receiving ridiculous orders (and then carrying said ridiculous orders). They get into a situation that probably requires more finesse than their 10-mile runs and “shoot first” ethos have prepared them for, with the same old predictable results. They go home, apply for disability, and then blame every body in the chain above them, absolving themselves of the orders they followed in the uniforms they put on themselves.
I’m sorry, you may not be the villain in this story, but you also don’t get to play the victim. The only victims were the people outside that bloody wall…bombed, invaded, lied to, extorted, arrested, tortured, jerked around, given false hope, and then finally abandoned, though not before one final bloody nose doled out by this war’s main participants. The last thing they deserve is for their tragedy to become fodder for more of our petty political bullshit. No one outside the US cares; as far as the rest of the world is concerned, we’re ALL complicit.
Go watch the 2022 documentary "Escape from Kabul". It shows all this and more. It shows the Taliban and US were similarly armed. It also shows that pretty much everybody there were confused.
Not one pos was held accountable for those 13 Marines.
1 marine SERGEANT NICOLE GEE, 12 soldiers, I was there on that deployment. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE. ALL DEAD FOR WHAT??
What😂 its a war
@@ankkaproductions5822 shut up, you weren’t there nor will you ever come close to being in a situation like that.
@@buscottie good, never would want to go to war in a foreign country for no reason😂😂
@@ankkaproductions5822 most of us didn’t know what was really going on. We were all young. Now that we know, it’s on us to demand accountability for ALL in every conflict that we don’t even need to be in.
I’ve seen accounts of many marines who were there going into detail about how awful the evacuation truly was and the horribly incompetent leadership they dealt with throughout
08:13 i feel sorry for him. prayers he recovers
8:17 That's a young guy who carried lots of weight on his soul and mind.
Yeah there's some trauma there for sure. He's a barber, so he can function on a day to day basis. I have a hard time thinking he's an alcoholic though. Maybe he needed it in order to tell his narrative. Some Vets have an easier time describing trauma under the influence of alcohol/drugs sadly. I hope he can find solace in something healthy
Imagine how the people he was shooting towards feel. But yea, poor him.
@@TheDeadKingsRavenhe shot at someone that was shooting at HIM, you jackass.
I feel really sorry for him. I hope this doesn't negatively affect him a lot.
@@TheDeadKingsRavenI’m having a hard time understanding this, are you siding with the bloke who had a part in the attack that killed civilians and Americans and fired at that soldier?
the US army lied? oh my god!!! I'm shocked
The Pentagon.
electrocution is bad for your health
It’s so anti American CNN would even report this
@@publicuser2534 Literally the same thing
@@JustTheFacts45 The Pentagon is filled with civilian employees and every branch of the military is represented by their top brass and staff. So no, not the same thing. The U.S. Army is a branch of the military, not the entirety of it.
The accuracy of those marines is crazy he said “one or two holes exactly in the chest and head”
Me: Lots of moisture falling from the sky today.
Pentagon: There is no rain or precipitation today.
"We have investigated ourselves and found ourselves of no wrong doing. Case closed!" Like who believes that?
The Police seem to do it everyday!!! I guess they need badges to be believed!!!
@@patrowland3107"fuck this shit im above this"
Seems like a police investigation into one of there own😂😂
@@KolbaZa How???
@@patrowland3107 How does it feel to hold the gyatt of someone you love? Rizz.
Who even trusts the pentagon
Whatever. You’re saying that from hindsight.
@MixedRaceMan Bro no one trusts the Pentagon or CIA theyve done just as much harm to American Citizens as foreigners. Learning new ways to control us with rhe food we eat,items we purchase,putting drugs on the streets in poor neighborhoods,staging terrorist attacks to convince Americans to war with Cuba and likely the Middle East bro theyve always been evil sacks of you know what
@@18thCenturyMulatto He has a point i dont know anyone who's ever bought anything the pentagon ever spouted
@@MarvoloSalazar are you SURE you don’t know anyone? Or is that an exaggeration to prove a point?
Most people do believe them. It just depends on whether or not a presidential administration is Democrat or Republican.
Whichever it is, the opposing population will always disagree
@@MarvoloSalazar in other words, if Trump publicly disagrees with the pentagon, democrats will believe the pentagon, if Biden publicly disagrees, republicans will agree with the pentagon
the moment you let the criminals investigate themselves is the moment you know your society is falling apart
subtitles are all over the place, and I am not even native speaker....." You ok?2 - " ah, I´m fine" --> reads: " No, I´m not". wtf?
You know shits going down when TB are just as shocked as you are during this kinda situation.
They were shocked because they were exposed. And now they knew that they were gonna be fired upon. And anybody else that looked like them?
@@Pete-xo1hlwell that would imply it was a taliban bomb
That's funny you write that. Im not blaming at you at all but these kinds of statements is really what pushed the afghan war to continue. A lot of people mix TB with IS, even though they have different beliefs, ideologies, rules, government bodies, allies, structure and enemies and not to forget that they are totally against each other, but to most people (mostly americans although some are educated enough) think Muslim = belong to the same group
TB? Throttle body?
@@mediocreman2 Acronym for Taliban.
How sad that U.S soldiers were left like lambs to be slaughtered while the higher ups sits in their comfy chairs in the pentagon not even batting an eye and covering up to save their own skin...😢😢😢
Makes you wonder: who surrendered to the Taliban, and released an army-worth of POWs as part of that surrender?
Oh, plus a general to lead that army.
Yes the US President has so much blood on his hands. And not only for Kabul
Oh don’t you know? Soldiers are expendable, just numbers on a sheet of paper
How about the innocent civilians? It’s a human tragedy created by incompetent invaders unnecessarily. I hope every single Afghan will remember what has happened to their country and tell their story to coming generations 😢
While I agree with you that is how it has always been... Let's be honest we all know that only 10-25% of correct information reaches the general public... If you think this is bad do NOT look into the First World War!
Why is this a big deal?
I'm no expert on small arms and light weapons, but aren't experts and experienced soldiers able to identify which weapon they are hearing based on the sound? Also, didn't any of the injured and dead people have bullets in them that could be identified? If the sounds of the weapons, and the type of bullets, both indicate that they were of the type used by Marines and other American forces, wouldn't that be even more proof?
Bro that is too real you cant be so grounded and straightforward you have to have a smoke and mirors
The problem is that not only can you hear gunshots, but you can hear cracking. The cracking of rounds passing by (probably overhead or laterally by) the microphone. Those are incoming rounds. Not outgoing. You would not hear those cracks otherwise.
They were incoming, but snaps not cracks in my opinion. Cracks are close enough to get hit if you put your hand up and definitely enough to delete a microphone's function. Snap is throwing a firecracker in the air, crack is someone slamming two rocks together next to your ear underwater.
This is what im thinking. Its easy for people who dont know what that sounds like, to think that was all out going fire. But some of what we heard, was 100% incoming.
@@bakenbeans420Possibly Marines shooting in the direction of other Marines.
It was a bomb, coordinated attack with incoming small arms fire from the Taliban. Marines were being fired upon and returned fire.
@@WarFace-lj4kx Possibly? Why are we even throwing it out there, if we don't know if its true?!?! It's fuckin absurd, brother!
I still can’t believe there are people that have lived the past 4 years that still believe the government is here to serve/protect them.
Imagine fighting for the government
Try the past 30 years at least.
Some for the local PD, they don't serve and protect you, only themselves.
Agreed! People have the power.. don’t become fodder for the Gov or the agendas of billionaires.
It is here to serve/protect you. You just don't understand what is best for your protection.
To be fair, ball bearings wounds, will look an awful lot like bullet wounds.
Combat is chaotic. Who'd have thought?
Young men as young as 19 experiencing this.... It's unfathomable if you're not there yourself.
Well, they shouldn't have joined.
@@hector5749 What an incredibly boring comment to make. No shit they shouldn't have joined, they were duped into it by the system they live in.
@@LagSammiches Only brainwashed idiots are. You right.
@@LagSammiches It's not boring. We need a "don't join, don't become a fascist stormtrooper, don't throw your body and soul away to make rich people richer" for every "thank you for your service" comment.
@@aluisious yeah I agree but that's not what happened here
Anyone calling Marines kids, doesn't have a damned clue how disciplined Marines are. Hearing gunfire means nothing, in Iraq I used to hear gunfire and explosions all the time, but we weren't being attacked, there was just shit going on outside the gates and who knew who was shooting or dying. The gunfire in the video does not sound close by, and the Marines are not acting like they are being engaged.
They said clearly these kids were only with the unit 2-3 months before deployment..... thats bot discipline or time enough to teach someone how to be stable in a traumatic situation. If theres ever another draft their going to pull men who dont know anything at all and send them right out to die.
@@dc161 Again, no such thing as a marine that's a kid. Marines have already been through half a year of training before they are assigned to a unit and it doesn't take long in combat to settle down. Did you see any panic in these Marines? Anyone that even looked scared to the point of uselessness?
@@piperp9535 so why would they need to lie? Lol
@@dc161 Imagine if it was the TB shooting, it would look bad for the truce/withdrawal agreement if that was the case. The US government is just saving face so they could leave rather than stay and fight, in my opinion. Did I explain that well?
I get where you're coming from but many Marines in our history have been literal children at 15-17 years old, especially last century. But I think most people in the context of fighting in war see 18-21 year olds as kids still regardless of the amount of training in the Marines and regardless of them technically being adults.
There's a reason Ukraine isn't conscripting 24 year olds and younger, and up until recently weren't even conscripting 25-26 year olds. It's explicitly because they are trying to protect their countries youth for the good of the future of the nation. And with Ukrainians warriors we're not even talking about training they also have experience in actual full scale war with another developed military yet they still see the youth differently than what you're describing.
The pentagon lied wow you dont say . I would never have expected them to ever lie
Sanchez I hope you find peace of mind. You’re worthy of it. We need more people like you on this earth.
@@Breathe989marines. It literally says marines in the title of the video.
Ya
@@Breathe989You are not supposed to put your comment here. You can't even read and hear the difference between the words marine and army.
@@lightsalt8279 he was not supposed to be in marine as well.he is a scared child with no balls.
@@Breathe989 bro stfu. You have no idea what it’s like out there. You’re saying all this as you’re sitting comfortably at home
I am a Marine veteran and I was still in during this time. My unit, 2nd LAR Battalion, was there attached to the MEU that first got sent to Kabul. If any of you wants to know just a little more that’s happened that nobody has talked about, here it is. I remember hearing about that one of the scout snipers was observing an ISIS militant on a balcony of a residence with an RPG being mounted over his shoulder. He reported it over the radio and he was denied the green light to fire. Just like many more of our Marines there, they were ordered to not do a single thing. To just sit there and take it.
It is this kind of blatant idiotic stuff that people have to deal with. Bureaucracy and politics 100% of the time ruins everything and makes things so much harder and makes people’s jobs so much more difficult. Tragedy could be prevented if the government would stop tying the militaries hands behind its back and loosen the ROE. There is zero reason that our Marines should not be allowed to shoot any military aged male who is armed, all while they know exactly what group of people it is that’s coming for them.
Good to see CNN can still do actual journalism , Bravo !!
Watching that young marine holding back tears while recounting his story is just heartbreaking. What a cluisterfuck situation all around. Awful.
"TB was just as shook as we were when that explosion went off"
They say it was ISIS or something.
ISIS-K Afghan branch of ISIS that hates everybody including the taliban. They were also responsible for the recent massacre in Moscow.
@@sylvesteruchia5263ISIS-K, an offshoot of ISIS and rivals with the Taliban
@@sylvesteruchia5263 99% probable. The Taliban is violent but political and calculating (they're the guys in Rambo 3 he's working with and the U.S. did sans Rambo). It serves no gain. Likely present for stalling the transfer for the hauling off of men and/or women of note. Young invigorated, ignorant, and brainwashed dumbasses do this like underpants gnomes. ISIS would. Hams would. Doesn't make sense for the Taliban. U.S. intel probably agrees if you've seen Israel. Could have sent USMC right back the next month and delete as the Taliban centralized. Didn't because it wasn't them...
The Mossad did it, and the pentagon hide it they control the US government
The marine with the modelo is a real lad. Lot of respect for a man who can be that emotional about what he did. Hope he is well.
Many barber shops give beer as you wait. It would be more surprising not being emotional....
These marines are suffering from ptsd and need help, I can’t even imagine being in that, it takes strength to be in the military and 9 times out of 10 if theirs a war coming back mentally damaged. That situation in Afghanistan was just horrible all the way around.
Its good reporting because it was done by CNN London, not in the USA lol.
Wait a minute.. the government lied? Im shocked 🤯
Lied about what? Im confused
The "reliability" of a pentagon investigation is where ya lost me. 😂
And not a single word about the terror organisation- TaIiban, that started all this. Wow.
It's sad that people find this surprising
It's sad that you are sad.
When young men see the human carnage, smell and sounds of horror only 1% understand...
Christian Sanchez looks very traumatized.
Yeah, that poor kid was put in a bad situation. I couldn’t imagine dealing with that even if it was a mistake.
Young boy at that.
He thought the Marine Corps would guce him brotherhood and pride for life, but just look at hiw broken it made him
@@1anre it can do both of those things for you at the same time. they're not mutually exclusive.
@@1anre that's war. Some people just don't get through the initial barriers of trauma
Notice the drinking before a deep interview. 😢
It’s still crazy people not knowing what happened here
About damn time CNN reported something news worthy.
One of the Marines that survived the blast but was badly injured was interviewed on the Shawn Ryan show and said they had intel on the ISIS bombing suspect who detonated the IED and spotted him in the crowd from the tower they were using for over watch and had him targeted by their sniper in the tower, but were denied authorization to take him out. Smh
CIA or Mossad...
He also testified to one of the House Committees
What episode??
No doubt some bleeding heart idiot decided that. "No! We can't risk the sniper hitting an innocent person!" A sniper who can probably shoot the stinger off a bee.
Or, more likely, "But that would scare people!"
@@jasonalo6778 it was the Shawn Ryan show ep 68 with tyler vargas
Went to boot camp with Sanchez in 2017… can’t believe he and everyone there had to go through this, prayers to you all my brothers and sisters who were there and that didn’t make it home… A co. PLT 1003…
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Idiots for joining.
Less than 60 rounds, fireteam element, likely the closest to the area, im surprised they kept the round count that disciplined in spite of the TRE.
This is not a surprise. The Pentagon spent their time lying about the last drone strike in Afghanistan too. You'll find 20 more years of instances like this.
-No video of Americans firing on civilians only gunfire in the area. only 1 tiny mention of partner nations there?
-Not even one full mag heard, In three minutes you say there were 8 episodes yet after watching this that very easily can be defined as 2 episodes.
-Your sources saying 13 dead from gunfire, one saying 50 and another saying 72+. No one corroborates the other.
- 43 rounds fired total. A platoon of Marines after an IED just killed 13 friendly soldiers and 170 civilians... Honestly nothing but respect for the control they had there on the ground.
The attackers were probably hoping for an all out blood bath during the chaos, those bursts were them probably trying to instigate it. Yet everyone took cover and continued to analyze the situation. Also these new kids in the forces are different. Americans back in the day would have mistaken any afghan civi as an enemy purely out of fear and no knowledge. But with the hyper connectivity of the world now through the internet. Everyone sees each other as the same and are less willing to jump to conclusions anymore.
@@twentysjx "But with the hyper connectivity of the world now through the internet. Everyone sees each other as the same and are less willing to jump to conclusions anymore." Well written
@@twentysjx But to be caught in a lie is equally as damaging, this clip was available to them. I ama not blaming the marines, the rank and file are my favourite American if such a thing exists. Legally there are consequences and without a formal resolution it will be tried in the court of public opinion.
Reminds me of the reporting on what supposely happened in Beijing, China, 1989.
Yeah, the sources are also extremely inconsistent in terms of casualties, not to mention there was only 43 gunshots and one guy says 50 shot, another source says 72+. This seems like taking anything they can find and running with it to make a story people will click on. These people have never been in combat so I don't think they get to call into question what the marines were shooting at when 13 of them just got killed by a bomb, especially because of the chaos of the situation due to terrible job done by the pentagon and government. Terrible journalism
That 2nd soldier needs some help….not a good look with that beer and PTSD..
Not sure what you are talking about as beer is cheaper than therapy.
@@chia_pet7121No it isn’t. Alcoholism is expensive af and doesn’t solve any of your problems. It just makes you numb to your trauma.
@@chia_pet7121 Cheaper is the correct word.. but when God steps in you don’t need beer anymore, the cheap version of pushing back healing.
@@RayBetterThanEvilCanival Not my fault you have to buy the fancy stuff.
@@Hezekiah1 God perfered wine.
What does he have a Gopro ??
I don’t think soldiers are ever really allowed to wear gopros, im not sure how an American got war footage. American army combat footage is extremely hard to come by unless released by the department of defense or some spec ops guys
So the suspected shooting came from us or in retaliation for being shot at? Im confused.
I dgaf. I’m not gonna judge these soldiers in a situation like that. War is hell
I don't judge the soldiers. I judge the liars who work in DC
This video isn't criticizing soldiers it's pointing out that the Pentagon published false information in its report. War is hell isn't an excuse for lying and doing whatever you want.
No you should gaf because your government is lying to you. 1 out of thousands, and the support the vets get? Almost none.
@@user-zy8cy6hn6oeasy for you to say.
I'm a veteran and served just under three years in Afghanistan. In my opinion you should absolutely judge soldiers who open fire on a crowd of innocent people. One of the reasons that war is hell is that sometimes soldiers don't use their training or follow the laws of war and the rules of engagement.
“They saw the TB looking as shocked as they were”
Marines: 😮
TB: 😮
CIA: 🤞
Pentagon: 🤫
@@Ivantheterrible495 Civilians: 🤪🥳
So he says he can't be certain that they fired into the crowd but for some reason hes sure they didnt shoot into the air? Interesting.
Real journalism. Keep this content up.
I don’t get it. What happened? There was gunfire after the bomb and the pentagon says there wasn’t? What does that mean? Why would they lie?
Pentagon says there wasn’t because they don’t want to admit that civies got shot by their own forces which is understandable, it’s not a good look but it’s war and shit happens.
Because in the chaos of the surprise attack, the marines may have been responsible for many of the civilian casualties. Just my guess.
It's a pointless argument in the end. Why would troops not return fire? Sure, the US military is trying to avoid liability, but it doesn't take much thought to know they returned fire.
Bcz most of the casualties were from the us military....bcz when they returned fire they fired without any thought
@@bans5 The issue is that gunmen shot at civilians and the pentagon tried to hide it, going as far as saying that the troops were delusion, including the ones who were caught in combat. The doctor himself said that they recorded roughly 145 bodies that had been shot with bullets, out of the 170 who died. This was not a singular mistake, and hell, there could be tons more!
What confuses me about the analysis of the bodies is that he's saying more than seventy people were killed by gunfire while at the same time CNN is counting forty-three shots.
It's to say the Pentagon narrative is bs! The Go-Pro may not have picked up all the gunfire!
shhh
You gotta remember that 5.56 can go through multiple people without stopping. Its possible that most of the rounds hit more than 1 person, but still an interesting point.
A packed street and you think magically penetration isn’t a thing?
There was literally thousands of civilians packed into a very narrow alley at very short range. Marines were armed with 5.56 and 7.62mm nato full metal jacket ammo weapons
Thank you CNN for a real report!
I am one of the witnesses on the same day that my hand was seriously injured in the explosion, but no one did anything to me, even the American soldiers who were there after the explosion, until they shouted at me to go away.
And yet people still blindly believe the government.
Proof?
@@hector5749 You in example
Yeah and it's usually the ones claiming they don't like government. What they mean is they don't like the government providing for its tax payers but they love the government for "defense"-(unjustified wars that they support because they fall for gov propaganda more than anyone).
I dont know bro it is been this way from Day 1 of government creation … it is nothing new
@@djdapper3721 I'm talking modern day when there is so much information out there that really only takes a couple hours to see what they tell us isn't true. May not find the actual truth in that time but it's definitely enough time to see if they're lying.
Back before the Internet, for sure state media and government was basically all you got.
This was a very good piece. I found myself surprisingly satisfied with the reporting especially when I heard CNN at the end. There were no assertions of opinion and it was on the ground reporting, asking the right people. What a terrible situation, but great coverage.
2:47 so far all I’ve heard is 5.56 gunfire and it’s all select fire meaning not fully automatic. I have not heard any fully automatic bursts.
Pray for Sanchez man 🙏. Hope he gets better.
This footage still does Not show 100% of everything that happened that day. There are breaks and pauses in the video. And it was a very large area which one camera would not have captured the whole thing.
Way to point out the obvious.
Not the first time, will not be the last time.
Happens in all theatres of war, by all sides.
As in all war, civilians usually ended up suffering the most.
@@chipmarley💯Exactly
@@KelzBernard thank you.
You do not have to be involved to be hurt.
Ummmm….yeah. And?
Did you think this was a movie?!?
Did you think you should have 5k hi-def footage of every single second of every single soldier deployed overseas?!?
This isn’t a video game, kiddo.
Woah. News? Welcome back guys! It’s been like 10 years holy smokes
The Truth and Exposure of wrong doing must be told , to save this world we live in .
It's called the fog of war. That footage doesn't establish anything aside from gun shots. For all we know, someone was shooting into the air to disperse or stop a crowd trying to rush through a security check point, despite the claim that no one wouldn't. After a blast in a tense situation, who knows what happened. Someone, suffering from shell shock, could have misidentified individuals as combatants. Or there were actually armed combatants moving through the crowd. Or it could have been friendly fire. It was the fog of war. During wartime. Why relive this trauma? What's the point?
Well the point is that usa soldiers may have shot civilians and the usa goverment is refusing to take responsability for it
Looks like the purpose is to sow discord and guilt upon those who were there..and to get clicks. Let’s help the survivors CNN..instead of of speculating
Wow. You must work for the Pentagon.
one must try super hard to be this brainwashed
@@americanrestoration4545The survivors are the ones shouting from the rooftops that this must be investigated.
43 shots fired and the doc say MORE than half died to gunshots? sounds super credible to me.
I thought the same thing. Shame on CNN for even trying to say they just "opened fire" for what, fun? Trash news from a dying news organization.
You think an assault rifle/machine gun round would be stopped by a single unarmored fella?
@@EinfachFredhaftGaming do you think that on average you get one killed per shot fired?
@@EinfachFredhaftGaming I have seen police combat footages, i know for a fact that bullets are no that powerful. you have trouble killing 43 people with 43 bullets
@@calebbearup4282 they could be more Shots that were not filmed the Video Shows us only that there were more shots than reported
Man, why can't people just be honest.
What US NATO literally achieve from 20 year of war in Afghanistan ....?? 🧐😕
Call it what it is or don’t call.
A strategic failure so avoidable that it can only really be considered deliberate sabotage by our traitor president? Yes, yes it is.
In the instant chaos of the situation, I don't blame any Marine or soldier for firing on whomever they deemed a threat. There is little-to-no time to process exactly what is happening. The bigger picture is how messed-up the withdrawal was, and how it resulted in this situation. Military on the ground were just trying their best to secure the area and defend fellow personnel and innocent civilians. In gurella warfare, it's often difficult to determine who is the actual enemy.
Yeah man, this withdrawal was literal hell. And seeing footage on the ground makes it even worse looking now. Like damn, if it was me there I would be so anxious and paranoid that I wouldn’t even be able to operate, since I would be constantly looking for Taliban in the crowd.
Issue is more that even in the initial volleys, they kept shooting, I doubt anyone saw any of these guys with a gun and they just assumed.
@@Drownedinblooddid you see our guys actually shoot anybody? No you didn’t. A lot of those gunshot came from an AK you know I’m surprised. All the military veterans in the comments never picked up on that. Hmph 🤣. Likely some 17 in his mom’s basement anyways.
Our troops know the rules of engagement. Are they perfect every time? Absolutely not? Is there any evidence at all our guys fired on anybody who was unarmed in this scenario? Nope.
@@zacharycaron4834If it was just the talibans firing, why lie about the fact that there was shots fired in the first place? And risk getting caught with later evidence?
@zacharycaron4834 where are the taliban/isis bodies then? They just run out of ammo and leave or are you saying our guys can't shoot?
I hope Christian is/will be ok... I couldn't help but to notice all the beer bottles (Modelo?) n you could tell that was his liquid courage to tell his story, even though he was still having a hard time doing it.
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