Cyclists v motorists: Jeremy Clarkson and Jeremy Vine lock horns
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2014
- When Jeremy Clarkson tweeted about his encounter with a road-hogging cyclist, the broadcaster Jeremy Vine called him a muppet. Here the two Jeremys go to war over cycling.
Read their accounts here: www.driving.co.uk/news/jeremy-...
Video originally published in January 2014. - Авто та транспорт
Vine is the end of a bell.
Vine! The reason I stopped paying the TV license!
You're certainly hated Vine, more than you can possibly imagine......
as long as he annoys you that's ok by me!
@@DuncYo fool
@@DuncYo yarn......
So Jeremy Vine couldn't behave, and he's upset that he was called out.
" He's not gonna beat me there's a red light up ahead and he'll have to stop " According to the Highway Code Mr Vine so are you.
No cyclist even knows the Highway Code exists!
@Richard Haughney: But isn't this Jeremy Viles whole point, I will beat you, you won't beat me, in his shallow, vacuous little existence, he believes he is in a race, not a journey to work or home!
YOU SHALL NOT PASS!
Yes but his point is that the car will overtake, stop at the lights, and then he will catch up and go to the front anyway so the car gets nowhere.
It's not advocating for cyclists to go through red lights (though many clearly do).
@@lazycalm41 the hilarious part is they've recently discovered it through the news, when the highway code changed. But have only taken in the parts that favour cycling.. Now they can go around with an even bigger sense of false confidence and take even less responsibility for their own safety
Vine has such a big ego ....he never listens .."he’s so desperate for attention
' No ' your not liked !!
Well a vine creeps up walls and along the ground.and the plant does the same.
so true
When is Mr Vine going to repay the £1000 he stole from the bbc licence payers x
Tell me more about this?!
@@mrshadenoughofallthis911 Him and his cohorts allegedly got the sum of £1,000 to fund a drinks do as a memorial to a personal friend. £1,000 coming from public money from BBC Licence Fee Payers. A guy on 700k per annum plus other income apparently felt the need to memorialise a friend using other peoples money, public💰💰💰 money. Unchivalrous Freeloading Rat in my opinion.
@@manuelhung7571 Oh how interesting, thank you. I think he is a snake. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that he is a money grabbing snake.
@@mrshadenoughofallthis911 read Alex Bellfield
@@chrissimpson5387 thanks. Will do!
Where is the £1,000 pound you took from tax payers licencing fund & will you hand over your £700,000 tax payers wages to the NHS Vine?
Or a bike
Will he fuck
Of course not. Slimy as they come.
Vine is a slimey creep
We love Alex and theres nothing vile vine can do about it lol
@3:42... You were correct in your first statement 'you are not liked' to that vomit inducing Vine person. You do not need to try adding anything else to that.😂
He's right he's not liked
Vine, the man who has his 10 year old listed as a director of his company.
Must have saved a packet.
You're talking crap
@@bikeman123 Look it up bozo. His company Jelly Vine Productions has his 10 year old daughter called Martha as the Director. Helps him reduce tax.
@heronblue3577 wow is this true?
Jeremy Vine: “I’m gonna beat him because he’s gonna stop at the lights”
So should you, Jeremy.
Only cyclists deserve the shit they long for on the road. Knob heads!!😀😀👍
I hate cyclists
There's good and bad people everywhere, most good. Everyone has the capacity to be a arsehole.
Exactly, cyclists never stop at traffic lights - when motorists do. A few years ago, in London, a cyclist nearly collided with me at a pelican crossing when cars, taxis and lorries had stopped. I am young and fit, that could have been a pensioner he hit and injured. I looked, cars stopped and he appeared out of nowhere. He started giving me verbal abuse.
I called him a c*nt and shouted, 'PEDESTRIAN RIGHT OF WAY!
THEY STOP! (the motorists) YOU STOP!'
This was near Malet Street and this jerk was a student.
Incidents like this have happened to me more than once.
When I called him a C-U-Next-Tuesday, he stopped and looked at me and said, "WHAT?"
As if I had no right, and was a "Div"- his word - for being in his way.
People are people. Some good some not so good. Doesn't matter what their preferred mode of transportation is. Some jump lights some speed. Saying all cyclists are the same is just being thick. Or poorly educated.
I grew up in inner London and as a child it was never considered possible for you to cycle in the city. It was accepted as not safe because of the combination of buses, lorries and cars. A limited number of adults did cycle but it was not advised in general. I know now with cycle lanes and other systems the roads have been adapted but it is still an environment where you have to look out for your own safety. You may believe you have rights as a cyclist and that this obligates others to consider your needs at all times, but you cannot rely on it. Pedestrians also have rights but that does not mean you would step out to cross a road without looking and using your judgement at all times.
@Stella: I was born and brought up at the Elephant & Castle, not exactly a sleepy hollow! At 11 I rode to Kew Gardens 11.5 miles, Chislehurst Caves 12 miles, Regents Park 4.5 miles straight through the West End!
When I was 14-15, we, a motel crew of reprobates, rode to Watford 22 miles, South East London to North West (Middx), dressed in Levi jacket & Jeans, either DM's or Converse boots, none of your Jeremy Vine, luvvy Spankex!
Where abouts were you situated that cycling was so verboten?
Per mile travelled, cycling and walking have similar accident statistics. Roguhly 1 fatal accident per 30 million miles. This is about 15 times higher than as a car passenger, but is still a very low risk. Much lower than for a motorbike rider. Clearly, a pedestrian, cyclist or driver that takes risks is more likely to be involved in an accident. Most cyclists willride defensively and assume that drivers are likely to make mistakes and make allowances for this. Nevertheless a cyclist will get annoyed when a driver doesn't give them the space they are entitled too.
Sorry but it’s really not comparable. There are pavements in most places. So pedestrians already have their own space on the road, and cars do not come there. Neither are pedestrians sometimes required to take of their shoes, while the “cyclists dismount” sign is pretty well known.
Never heard such tripe.
The pedestrians I come across just cross the road without looking both ways and glued to their mobile phone.
Can’t wait until Alex gets Vine into court..........
He has ,and Vine started crying like a little girl😂😂😂
Vine is going to pay HUGE HUGE HUGE to Alex . I'd like him imprisoned
There is only one great Jeremy and that's Jeremy Clarkson
@captain pugwashb
Hey CP Not everyone can have great taste but those who have adore Jeremy Clarkson 😉
@captain pugwash I still think you Captain pugwash you are really Jeremy Vine or his clone I won't be speaking with you again bye bye now
@captain pugwash Why?
@captain pugwash There are a lot of sheep around.
"they are going to stop at the next lights, so he can't beat me" by that admission I assume the highway code only applies to motor vehicles at red lights and not cyclists. Oh yeah I forgot, that's what the pavements for, so cyclists can miss out red lights and cycle through pedestrians. Not against cyclists just the hypocrisy of it all..... And I think Jeremy vile is a horrible person.
There are three options here. The car beats him, he beats the car, or they're tied. Since they'd both be stopped at a light, they'd be at exactly the same point. Now, of course the motorist will overtake him right away when the light turns green, but when cyclists talk about being overtaken right before a light, the point they are making is the driver isn't saving any time by not waiting until after the light turns green to pass them.
Russ! I think your lack of functional literacy is being displayed. Which also might be why you don't understand the Highway Code.
When someone says that you can't beat them because of traffic lights, it means no matter how fast you drive between the lights, you will have to stop and wait. I know it is impossible for you to not be stupid, that was how you were born. We understand. Whenever you try to read something in future, ask a grown up, like your mummy or care worker, to explain what any complcated sentences mean.
@@karikling8812 A cyclist can also filter through a long queue at a traffic light and so may catch up drivers stuck in the queue for several minutes. On many busy urban roads, a driver is only actually moving for perhaps half the time and spends the other half waiting in a queue. The cyclist will travel at about half the speed between queues, but will usually filter through to the head of the queue and hence is never delayed by more than the time taken for one cycle of the lights. I find that travel times over 4-5 miles of most urban roads is the same whether I'm driving or cycling
Cyclists are absolute bellends. Only takes a few of these headcam videos to see the majority of cyclists would happily break the law ( running red lights, not stopping at pedestrian crossings etc) just to chase cars that make a mistake and send the clip into the police for a tiny bit of gratification in their pathetic existences.
Anyone and everyone who uses any type of vehicle on the road should have to have insurance. Why do I have to have insurance for a motorcycle but not a push bike? If a cyclist collides with me or my car and causes damage how do I get the injury or expense and inconvenience recompensed? The majority of cyclists (the Lycra clad brigade especially) seem to have a holier than thou, elitist attitude to road use, ignore the Highway Code and are generally a right pain in the rear. Pay up or pedal somewhere else. As for Jeremy Vile.... best left unsaid.
@@picaso023 why is wanting anyone who uses the road to have insurance spiteful? Should a kid on a 50cc moped that is restricted to 28mph be exempt from having insurance? You think that building a network of cycle lanes is the solution and would it then be ok to tax them (no mention of insurance whereas I never mentioned taxing them)? But you seem fine with cyclists using the road totally uninsured. How about making them take a test? The biggest danger to cyclists in my experience of them is their own stupidity and disregard for the rules of the road. But no worries let everyone else look out for their idiotic antics.
@@picaso023 and yet kids on 50cc scooters often costing less than a push bike are still required to have it. Thanks for the 'education' though.
@@picaso023 what ever medication you are on you need to reduce the dose. I need to do my home work do I? I never mentioned electric bikes anywhere. I never mentioned motorcycles anywhere or 40mph anywhere. So I'll explain it carefully to you one more time.
A kid (16yrs old) on a scooter/moped (50cc restricted to 28mph) has to have insurance to use the road. Yet the lycra clad 'entitled' cyclists do not have to have insurance (I'm guessing you are one yourself) so - now pay attention - why shouldn't a push bike also have insurance if a puny moped has to have insurance to use the road? If one of your play mates collides with a vehicle and then cycles off the unfortunate person who's vehicle is damaged has to foot the bill for repairs themselves. The selective use of the Highway code by cyclists is appalling.
So I don't need to do my homework as I'm a motorcycle instructor teaching people how to avoid such idiots everyday, they ones like you wanting cycle lanes but then don't use them, want us to pass slow and wide but are quite happy to nearly take my mirrors off when coming towards me two abreast. So perhaps you should do some homework, or just read comments properly or - even better read the Highway Code and abide by it instead of expecting everyone else to look out for you while you are out playing and not looking out yourself...and get some insurance, just in case.
I was shocked to find out vines salary
A well known nasty piece of work within the BBC
£285k is on par with his colleagues and not that much considering he does both radio and TV programmes.
It is not an argument against cyclists. It is an argument against vigilantes on two wheels.
I first met the parasite in the 70's/80's at a amateur athletics meeting in Huntington (I think) and he said "when are they going to get me something away from these peasants" to his cameraman/producer. A complete narcissist.!
Vine is a lightweight in every aspect .
Jeremy Vine where is the £1000
I wouldn't use "great eminent" to describe Jeremy Vine. "Lightweight" yes.
I could think of a better word.
"I'm going to beat him anyway, because he's going to stop at the next lights." Does that mean that you do not stop at traffic lights, Vinester? By the way I am a law-abiding cyclist. Lol!
What a dumb comment. If you were actually a regular cyclist you would know that cyclists can easily pass queues of waiting cars.
Vine 2.55 “I’m at a loss I need help”
Yep he got that right😉😉
Best way to sort this out is to have a fight.
Come on Clarkson.
I got £20 on Clarkson battering the pompous prick.
Norton Commando I’m a cyclist but I can’t stand vine
I would pay to see Vine get a battering.
Vine is actually a black belt in ji jitsu so think again
@@monsiursnowman66 vines a bitch though clarkson will actually fight on about think again lmao
Interesting to note how 'Jeremy's' in particular seem to rub people up the wrong way when they are in the media.
Jeremy Vine, ....Jeremy Clarkson, ....Jeremy Kyle (now there IS a nasty piece of work), ...even Jeremy Beadle was irritating.
So it's nice to see that they can turn on each other, and save us the job.
Jeremy Vine IS an overpaid prat though.
Don't forget the communist jeremy Hardy.
Jeremy Paxman (sorry, missed him)
Jeremy Bradbury, as well.
Awful Chap..
Never read or listen to government advice.
Can't stand either of them but would definitely love to see Clarkson slap him
The reporter was right he his disliked by everyone. What about the £1000 pounds Jeremy have you given it back yet.
Why does everyone always have the same sound bite lol this comment is about 100 times on here
@@beachboss7320 cuz vile vine stole our money and if Alex belfield did it vile vine would be like a scratched record for the rest of his failing career 🤣
@@desmondfryer6799 its true, all vine does is moral posturing
Everyone should ask vine where the £1000 off licence payers money where and how can he do that
Yes, I agree Jeremy, vine is as woke as they come and a bicycle fanatic.
Being a cyclist, it's not car drivers v cyclists. That wouldn't be a fair thing for me to say because over half of the country's motorists are 100per cent considerate around cyclists so I don't feel it's right for them to be labelled sociapaths along with the motorists that are.
“Following Government Advice” - well there’s your problem right there. Applies to more than cycling regulations as well.
There is only one Jeremy..... and his last name is NOT Vine. A pushbike cannot take off faster than a car, so why should it be in front of the car at a traffic light or whatever
Jeremy does get to the point it’s in a comedy way he’s naturally funny
He’s not going to beat me as he will have to stop at the next lights. Because I’ll just run the red light😂
With a bit of luck he will get knocked off or nicked .
Police don't care anymore as long as your doing it safely. Why wait when theres nothing coming. Well done you brave soul. The next 10 years I think will be big changes...
@@jonyfany8763 it's against the law ,if not vehicles will be doing it.
ben casson
I ok I’ll try running a red light n just say Ben Casson told me its ok
Take risks at your own peril. Good luck.
One day somebody will get Vine , just hope it's caught on video so we can celebrate .
Jeremy Vine is nothing but a yes-man for the BBC
Id will have more respect for cyclists when they pay tax and insurance like all other road users !
Pete Butt, I don’t cycle, but bikes are zero emissions like electric cars, so don’t pay road tax as you call it. Road Tax and car insurance is totally unfair way of taxing road users as I only drive an average of 5,000 miles a year, but pay the same for the privilege of using the road as someone who may drive 50,000 miles a year.
@@alanhindmarch657 car tax is apparently for the up keep of the highways etc. So everyone who uses it should contribute.
Cyclists are free. Lol!
Roger Parker road tax, which is actually Road Fund License is supposed to be for the upkeep and funding of new roads, as was its original intention. But as most people know it is a nother way of taxing motorists. It is a totally unfair system, why should there be different levels of road fund license and no matter how much you use the roads we all pay the same. It should be added to the cost of the fuel, then even the tax dodgers would be paying.
@@alanhindmarch657 I agree. When u ask what tax is for that's the reason. So how come electric cars and smaller engine cars are cheaper. They cause same damage to the road etc. Its a way of taxing fuel car drivers. Plain and simple
Jeremy Vine thinks it's Ok for a cyclist to stop halfway on a pedestrian crossing, but if a car driver had done the same he would film it on his go-pro and post it on every media outlet possible, he also seems to think only motorists need to stop for red lights.
Vine if you get run over, we won’t miss you, you may have been the target of a journalist who wants a very short story.
When I get on my bike not in any way am I considering the planet .
It’s down to costs and fitness .
No way would I be selfish enough to go in the middle of the road unless I’m turning right with a signal .
Jeremy is right .
"I'm gonna beat the driver cos he's gonna stop at the next lights" says it all, I've yet to see a cyclist obey traffic law.
Hahaha greatest photo of Jezza 0:34
Oh Lord.... Will Jeremy Vine start crying again?
He's not hated because he's a cyclist, but because he's a disgusting human being.
Where's the misunderstanding. cyclists certainly do not pay to be on the road but motorists do.
Just announced, Boris is giving any one with an old cycle £50 to get it road fit, and encourage more people onto their bikes, can't wait for Clarksons comment on this.
Rod that must have been fun to put together.
Following government advice! That’s Jeremy 🤦♂️
Where is the £1000 vine?
The trouble is todays roads are not fit or safe for cyclists all should have cycle lanes theres too much traffic
@RushiesBoots The NHS probably kill three times that a year through incompetence. Mind you, the ambulance does get them there in order to eventually be killed.
Anyone else notice the journalist was standing in the cycle lane?
Bike riders should have a number plate so they can be held to account .They share the road with car drivers so they should be identifiable and accountable for their actions.
""Alex- I'm from Ireland-@- did see Jeremy Swine on "STRICTLY-CRIME -DANCING""- thought he was the next best thing since stale bread - Big Egoist MUPPET"". Thanks Alex your Channel is GREAT- God Bless You"".
"He's going to stop at the next set of lights " Does that mean Jeremy Vine doesn't stop at lights!
Vine rides a penny farthing round London if that's not asking to be killed I don't no what is.
Hope springs eternal.... they say.
Would LOVE to see a photograph of the Penny Farthing!
Untaxed….Untested…..Uninsured ……. Belligerent
"You're not liked....I don't mean you personally..."
Why not?
jeremy vine who has been photographed on a few occasions cycling through red lights :)
4:11 - “ road tax”? No such thing anymore.
We know what is meant. Silly response really
@@chrissimpson5387 a bit like your one than.
In London cyclists are so much faster than cars
Vine is as welcome as a fart in a space suit
Vine, where is the £1000 you stole?
I have always thought that Vine aspires to be Paxman, but even that target eludes him.
VINEDICK
Let's put it this way, there are not too many cycling ambassadors showing how it should be done, or at least I have never seen one and I mean one.
I’ve heard that he rides side saddle just a thought ❤
The cyclists call it taking the lane. The rest of us call it taking the piss.
I would love to cycle like when I was a kid but with all the idiots driving their cars I will never cycle on main roads. And as a driver myself we all f****** up from time to time so for health and safety reasons cycling on main roads should be forbidden. But I still would love to cut Jeremy Vine up and where's the £1,000 Mr Vine
Top gear fav show
Why does the presenter Rod Riddle, look like Jeremy Vine and Jeremy Clarkson put together!
I ride a bike every day and under no circumstances would I ride a 'car door with' - plus car width away from the side of the road. I ride 4' from the kerb and closer if necessary. It's called riding defensively.
So Jeremy admits to going through traffic lights??
He’s saying he catches up with him at the lights…and then jump them so you have to overtake them.
Hopefully Alex Belfield is going to stick it to Mr. Vine.
"nothing raises the hackles like cycling" - my lord, RL`s not paying attention !
Interesting to hear the language which Jeremy Vine uses (when referring to a car which overtook him) 'I'm going to beat him anyway. He's not going to beat me'. I think that's quite a telling insight in to his mindset. And one which many bad drivers have too.
It really is because they don't like Jeremy Vine's show!
Excuse me who is this Vine man that you are all talking about, and what does he do? Has he been on TV
I HAVE never ever heard of him from today. If he's on TV which channel and what's it about? Whoever he is I really must tune in.
For someone who gets into so many cycling predicaments, maybe Vine should take a cycling proficiency test.
when I started work in 1957, 90% of workers went to work ON A BIKE! Wheres the problem?
Ummm!!!!….someone invented cars !!!
This is such an interesting article. Mr. Clarkson is indeed a very courteous and patient man. I met him at a show, to autograph my magazine, and he is a gent. I am a fan of his work. However, he like the rest of the petrol head community, have to accept that cycling, particularly in cities, is the most efficient and effective form of human powered transport. It is ridiculous to oppose it. It is even more insane (I am not talking about JC) for drivers of powered vehicles to believe that their ownership of a car puts them in a class above cyclists. I own several cars, and cycles. I have to pay the VED on my cars, to use them on the road. This is not a payment for the road. It is a tax on the vehicle. I pay for the roads in my general taxes and council tax. So, whether I use my excise duty free bike, or my duty paid car, I have the same, not more nor less, right to use the roads. A cyclist is a human being. The law states that human beings are not allowed to harm or endanger other human beings. These are heinous acts, and many laws prevent such acts.
If you were to threaten or injure a random person in the street, on a bus or tube, with a baseball bat etc. This would likely result in a prison sentence. You would be shunned by society, and possibly be labled a terrorist. Yet the same people that would condemn that attacker, will get into a car, weaponise it, and then threaten to and possibly, harm human beings with it. Their self justification for this violence and terrorism, is that the humans that they tried to kill, were sitting on bicycles.
As a society we choose to protect our vulnerable. As the number of cyclists increases the risk of death and injury inflicted by the minority of terrorist drivers, increases. This will result in more laws favouring cyclists, more laws penalising the mostly innocent and courteous brothers and sisters in cars. All because a few twats in cars think that they are more important than the rest of us.
An excellent comment, very well put. I would add though that I feel it's quite clear that Vine, and the loathsome Cycling Mikey, go looking for drivers to publicly shame (or grass in CM's case). And this aspect is really important to them. They have a need to lecture people, to give them orders and shame them. A quick glance at CM's comments section is utterly depressing. Thousands of people shaming and humiliating a complete stranger who has, admittedly, made a mistake. It's not healthy. It's a watered down lynch mob mentality and it's sinister. CM actually hides behind a hedge so that he can jump out and catch people. He then goes on TV and lies through his teeth saying 'I don't go looking for people.' He is now in it for the money, the fame, to feed his ego and because he gets off on ordering people about. In so many of his videos he clearly tries to rile people for a reaction for his clickbait.
With Vine, in the videos I've seen of him, I feel he could easily have avoided the situation with more careful cycling, even with the drivers making mistakes, and avoided risk to himself. But he has a need to show up the driver and tell them that they are wrong. If you are at risk from a two ton piece of metal you too have a responsibility for your own safety. Drivers will always make mistakes, always. So it is pointless JV and CM actively looking for trouble, which both do imo.
On balance ... Drive over Vine.
I cycle because I’m broke - I don’t have a car. I don’t have the luxury of taking a principled stance of “saving the planet” I just need to get from A to B as cheaply as possible. Jeremy Vine is a mammoth muppet, IMO!
I’m a level-headed cyclists and don’t get as many issues
Cars pulling out and “left hooks” are serious issue for me
If cars have to be a Metre plus away from the cyclist surely that should be the same for Cyclist passing a pedestrian . Now I do pass cyclist by this distance because you never know what they will do but they do go threw lights cross pedestrian crossing when people are crossing and pull out of side roads on to main roads without stopping causing cars to swerve .
As I have mentioned on other bits of film featuring Jeremy Vine. He is quite an unusual character in that he manages to be both a prick AND an arsehole at the same time.
The point is not trying to save the planet or the polar bear. The point is that cyclists want to ride a bike. It’s easy, it’s cheap, it’s healthy and you never need to look for parking space. If they are taking up more space, that’s purely out of necessity because otherwise they would be much more vulnerable. And they already are vulnerable because they don’t have, oh I don’t know, a 1000kg metal body around them? Jeremy Clarkson is even comparing it to swimming in a pool with sharks. How does he not put 2 and 2 together? The fact is the UK traffic culture favors the more protected road users, i.e. cars. Whereas it should favor the most vulnerable ones, pedestrians and cyclists. Infrastructure should be designed with this in mind as well. Then it won’t be like swimming amongst sharks, and in The Netherlands we have proven that.
Great media people? That’s an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
I wonder if Vine actually knows how much he is disliked? Mind you on 700k a year I don't suppose he gives a fuck
Yes Morgan is ,as you say
Totally agree with Clarkson..cycling like it or not is too dangerous now a days..we have cars , vans, trucks etc..it's not 1902
But, considering they’ve been consulting the Dutch government and implementing Dutch cycling strategy, people need to get used to cars being the bottom of the priority as that’s what’s gonna happen
You can hate me for £700,000 a year.
I don’t think Jeremy Vine is ‘suddenly’ hated for riding a bicycle…there’s nothing sudden about it.
I just enjoy riding my bike?
What I found funny was vine saying .
He won't beat me anyway..he,s got to stop at the lights ..🤔.
Don't cyclists also have to stop at the lights lol...
Vine you are so soft to clag. By the way a camera on your helmet I bet jimmy saville wished he thought of that
Is the interviewer Boris Johnson on his day off?
Every so often you will be overtaken by a car. The news is that there are impatient people who will insist on overtaking anything in front of them and that includes other cars. SURPRISE!