Hi Sandy, the 3 videos showing how to do this job have been brilliant. My sons fabia 1.2v 12v jumped the timing chain and bent the intake valves...with your video I've been able to fix it for him for about £200 in parts, ( timing chain kit, head gasket, valves, oil filter etc..). One thing I missed on your video was the hidden bolt below the engine mounting which attaches the timing cover to the block... Everything else pretty much exactly as shown in your video..started first turn of the key.... Many thanks. Paul
Great video Sandy, this really helped me out where the Haynes manual wasn't useful. I did my CGP Polo last weekend. A few top tips that I thought might help others, that I found out along the way. - You don't need to remove the sump if you are only working on the timing chain, tensioner, guides and sprockets. All sources say you do need to, but you don't. Simply slide the oil pump drive off the crank and set it to one side. People seem to take the sump off to work on the oil pump, which is fair game. - On that note, you can support the engine by the sump or gearbox, no hoist or support brace needed. - Accessing that crankshaft sensor to insert the locking tool is a pain as Sandy noted. I couldn't see any way to get to it, so I removed the intake manifold. This is about 11 bolts and a few cables to remove and made for a lot less swearing... It also meant I didn't dread taking the tool in and out, and therefore meant I was able to properly take my time, turning the engine over a few times and taking the tools in and out. No taking shortcuts because I dreaded trying to get to the locking tool. - Putting the alternator back on was a massive pain in the ass. You don't need to actually remove it all the way, you can just take the top bolt out and then rotate it out of the way to get the timing case off. Easy? Well, I couldn't rotate it back on to get the top bolt back in again. It turns out that there are some "self centralising bushes". Long story short, the alternator needs to be removed properly as Sandy says and these bushes need to be pressed or tapped back, and they then clamp back around the alternator bracket when you do the bolts up to put the alternator back on - you'll see what I mean if you have the same trouble. Those are the things I wish I knew before I did this, that would have saved me a couple of hours. Overall a pretty easy job for a competent home mechanic - thanks again Sandy for the video and I hope others find the above tips handy.
The crankshaft sensor is accessible, you need to reach over the back of the subframe facing towards the front of the car. If you're doing this on jackstands that might be really difficult
Thank you for this what a brilliant way to present a video with a voice over showing tools sizes ect.... thank you again for taking the time to bring us this video in a great format. Kind regards Jay🤗
Dont need to take the alternator off. Wind the belt tensioner back and putba small scredriver or allen key in the alignment hole, then remove the tensioner. Drop the top bolt on the alternator and just pull it forward out of the way.
Hi Sandy, Im a bit late to the show, I've got a polo same as that with 67k miles on the clock. Ive heard too many stories about these timing chains and the tensioner failing.. is there anyway I can inspect the tension of chain without removing the timing cover? Or can you usually tell when it is about to go.. Cheers.
I have had my 1.2 2010 polo for 6 years. I tend to service mine every two years with long life castrol oil. She does about 4.5k miles a year so not many miles. I do wonder if i should go back to every year servicing
Great video. Helping my so far. One question though. How did you physically get to the crank sensor. From the top / bottom / what side? I can’t reach it anywhere.
Tell you what, you need a pretty good airgun to rattle that bottom pulley bolt off! I have made up a special tool to lock the pulley. Also makes life easier when you need to retorque it ( new bolt is advised)
Sandy, excellent video, thank you for that. Crankshaft sensor - Can you remember how you managed to pull the sensor out? I have managed to get the T30 fixing off but the sensor does not want to move,
Hi Ian what I can remember I think that one came no problem, you'll probably find cause it's plastic coated it will have swollen ever so slightly so you'll have to wiggle it like mad! Cheers sandy
I’m currently doing the timing chain on my 1.2 polo, I’ve gone to put the timing locking kit on the cam as they don’t quite line up the bolt holes on the engine… how can I get this lined up?
Hi, I would like to know too. On average, how many kilometres does the timing chain need to be replaced? I (if the mechanic really replaced it) replaced it at 110000 km because when I started the engine I heard a worrying slipping noise.
Hi mate just discovered your videos. Top stuff. Quick question, do you have any videos showing how to replace rocker cover gasket for this car? 2010 vw polo 1.2 turbo? Thanks
Hi quick question when replacing the timing chain do you need to align the oil pump gear with the crank shaft gear or do you just put it in tdc lock the cams then put the chain on?
Hi I've actually not finished this job yet but it says on s database " ensure balancer shaft (oil pump) gear timing mark aligned with crankshaft gear timing mark" cheers sandy
@@sandyande 4400 euro from Ireland. Why you say that you buy this car only if has a very goood price. It is not a so good car no? Had problems? or Why you say that. Thanks for your answer
Hello @ sandy anderson , i get this feil code messege in my Vw polo 1,2 2007 , engine light comes up and i changed camskaft position sensor but still the engine light comes up again , do you think its time to change Timing Chain. Here is the fault codes , Thanks for your time 16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40): Implausible Signal P0341 - 008 - Implausible Signal 17549 - Load Calculation Cross Check: Implausible Value P1141 - 007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
Hi, Richard. Having the same question now as you had 9 months ago. Were your valves damaged by the pistons, or did you have luck? I have the same issue and hope the valves are fine
Nice. What software/App do you use to edit your footage Sandy? If you don't mind me asking...I've been tinkering a wee bit with UA-cam but clueless on the production side. Look forward to part deux!
dont like the look of that oil pump chain seems very slack sandy must have been rattling away a fair bit done a few of these the older polo has a balance shaft with two marks easy to get caught out because there is no woodruff key on the crankshaft if i remember correctly
hi sandy , did yours rattle on start ups , ive got a fabia with the same engine and have been told its normal for a 2 to 3 second rattle so the tentioner builds up pressure , mines done 68k with a full history , last change the oil was thick black for some reason. ua-cam.com/video/BOs_VrSWKhs/v-deo.html
Hi Sandy, the 3 videos showing how to do this job have been brilliant.
My sons fabia 1.2v 12v jumped the timing chain and bent the intake valves...with your video I've been able to fix it for him for about £200 in parts, ( timing chain kit, head gasket, valves, oil filter etc..).
One thing I missed on your video was the hidden bolt below the engine mounting which attaches the timing cover to the block...
Everything else pretty much exactly as shown in your video..started first turn of the key....
Many thanks. Paul
Glad to help Paul cheers sandy
Great video Sandy, this really helped me out where the Haynes manual wasn't useful. I did my CGP Polo last weekend. A few top tips that I thought might help others, that I found out along the way.
- You don't need to remove the sump if you are only working on the timing chain, tensioner, guides and sprockets. All sources say you do need to, but you don't. Simply slide the oil pump drive off the crank and set it to one side. People seem to take the sump off to work on the oil pump, which is fair game.
- On that note, you can support the engine by the sump or gearbox, no hoist or support brace needed.
- Accessing that crankshaft sensor to insert the locking tool is a pain as Sandy noted. I couldn't see any way to get to it, so I removed the intake manifold. This is about 11 bolts and a few cables to remove and made for a lot less swearing... It also meant I didn't dread taking the tool in and out, and therefore meant I was able to properly take my time, turning the engine over a few times and taking the tools in and out. No taking shortcuts because I dreaded trying to get to the locking tool.
- Putting the alternator back on was a massive pain in the ass. You don't need to actually remove it all the way, you can just take the top bolt out and then rotate it out of the way to get the timing case off. Easy? Well, I couldn't rotate it back on to get the top bolt back in again. It turns out that there are some "self centralising bushes". Long story short, the alternator needs to be removed properly as Sandy says and these bushes need to be pressed or tapped back, and they then clamp back around the alternator bracket when you do the bolts up to put the alternator back on - you'll see what I mean if you have the same trouble.
Those are the things I wish I knew before I did this, that would have saved me a couple of hours. Overall a pretty easy job for a competent home mechanic - thanks again Sandy for the video and I hope others find the above tips handy.
Cheers my friend and glad to help, thanks for the top tips! Sandy
The crankshaft sensor is accessible, you need to reach over the back of the subframe facing towards the front of the car. If you're doing this on jackstands that might be really difficult
Thank you for this what a brilliant way to present a video with a voice over showing tools sizes ect.... thank you again for taking the time to bring us this video in a great format.
Kind regards Jay🤗
Thanks for your kind comments Jay glad it helped cheers sandy
Just about to do one of these tomorrow, thanks very much for doing this great video 😊
Dont need to take the alternator off. Wind the belt tensioner back and putba small scredriver or allen key in the alignment hole, then remove the tensioner. Drop the top bolt on the alternator and just pull it forward out of the way.
Hi Sandy, Im a bit late to the show, I've got a polo same as that with 67k miles on the clock. Ive heard too many stories about these timing chains and the tensioner failing.. is there anyway I can inspect the tension of chain without removing the timing cover? Or can you usually tell when it is about to go.. Cheers.
I have had my 1.2 2010 polo for 6 years. I tend to service mine every two years with long life castrol oil. She does about 4.5k miles a year so not many miles. I do wonder if i should go back to every year servicing
Thanks for the video. I love working on cars especially this polos. Keep up the good work sir.
Great video. Helping my so far. One question though. How did you physically get to the crank sensor. From the top / bottom / what side? I can’t reach it anywhere.
like from Spain.👍 great video... good mechanic and good explains.👏👏
viva España 👍😎
Tell you what, you need a pretty good airgun to rattle that bottom pulley bolt off! I have made up a special tool to lock the pulley. Also makes life easier when you need to retorque it ( new bolt is advised)
Hi, how much do you charge for the job?
My polo 1.2 cam chain is noisy and sounding bad after 60k Miles, what a joke. Thanks for this video!
They are terrible chains! Cheers sandy
Sandy, excellent video, thank you for that. Crankshaft sensor - Can you remember how you managed to pull the sensor out? I have managed to get the T30 fixing off but the sensor does not want to move,
Hi Ian what I can remember I think that one came no problem, you'll probably find cause it's plastic coated it will have swollen ever so slightly so you'll have to wiggle it like mad! Cheers sandy
I am looking for someone to do mine , sounds like you live local to Falkirk ?
Do you know the torque spec for the crank bolt? Thanks.
Skem ksi na cka me ba tash?(po thot visari)
Thanks for your very informative video.please advise when you going to post part 2 cheers.
Hopefully soon, certainly before 2020!!!! Haha cheers sandy
hello How many kilometers should be changed thank you
Very good video, thanks mate.
I’m currently doing the timing chain on my 1.2 polo, I’ve gone to put the timing locking kit on the cam as they don’t quite line up the bolt holes on the engine… how can I get this lined up?
Turn the cam with a spanner until it lines up with the timing tool
Is this the same engine as what's in a fabia
Interesting little engine... we don't have these in North America.
Cheers Thomas, Sandy
I've just bought a 2010 1.2 VW Fox with 100k miles on clock and no history. Will this be same engine and procedure to change chain?
Yes
Thanks you for this great video sir😍
Great detailed video, what codes did you get for you to diagnose it was the chain. Would it be a crank/cam sensor message? Thanks
Cheers Jack here is the original diagnosis video ua-cam.com/video/W6yQ-O3mI1k/v-deo.html cheers sandy
Hi sandy ,how do you support engine to remove sump normally thanks.
Up to how many kilometers does the chain change the phase How many kilometers does it wear Thank you
Hi, I would like to know too. On average, how many kilometres does the timing chain need to be replaced? I (if the mechanic really replaced it) replaced it at 110000 km because when I started the engine I heard a worrying slipping noise.
What parts would I need I have been quoted £700 just in parts from the main dealer
Just buy timing chain kit from eBay
It’s £72
I would like the dimensions of that coil tool remover
If the engine is not in position for the camshaft locker what do I do?
Part 2 now would be good :)
ua-cam.com/video/agoG2pOsCr8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/kTPxh5arpuU/v-deo.html
Does anyone know where the crankshaft position sensor is?
Hi mate just discovered your videos. Top stuff. Quick question, do you have any videos showing how to replace rocker cover gasket for this car? 2010 vw polo 1.2 turbo? Thanks
ua-cam.com/video/1WSbG4d76ZQ/v-deo.html goto 11mins on this video, maybe the set-up is similar not to sure, BEWARE IT COULD HOLD DOWN CAMSHAFT
Exalant mechanic.
Hi quick question when replacing the timing chain do you need to align the oil pump gear with the crank shaft gear or do you just put it in tdc lock the cams then put the chain on?
Hi I've actually not finished this job yet but it says on s database " ensure balancer shaft (oil pump) gear timing mark aligned with crankshaft gear timing mark" cheers sandy
Do we have to replace the chain timing belts as part of service? I was told chain belts don't need replacing.
Hy. At what km you change the timing chain? You reccomend this engine CGP? THANKS
The timing chain, in theory, should not need changed! I would only buy this car/engine if you can negotiate a very good price! Cheers sandy
@@sandyande 4400 euro from Ireland. Why you say that you buy this car only if has a very goood price. It is not a so good car no? Had problems? or Why you say that. Thanks for your answer
what helps to prevent this problem with the timing chain, thas oil change helps
I think it is poor engine design, it will happen again! Cheers sandy
When should I replace the timing chain? mine has 90.000 kms on the clock.
200.000kms
I’ve got a seat ibiza 1.2 (2010) chain to do, I’ve got a engine code of CGPA would that be the same?
Yes exactly the same
Hello @ sandy anderson , i get this feil code messege in my Vw polo 1,2 2007 , engine light comes up and i changed camskaft position sensor but still the engine light comes up again , do you think its time to change Timing Chain. Here is the fault codes , Thanks for your time
16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40): Implausible Signal
P0341 - 008 - Implausible Signal
17549 - Load Calculation Cross Check: Implausible Value
P1141 - 007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
Check the timing with proper tools
Does this engine bend valves when the chain jumps and not start
Not always! Try a new chain and fingers crossed! Cheers sandy
@@sandyande thank you i will try and get a new chain kit on it this week. Any special tools needed to align it all back up?
ua-cam.com/video/agoG2pOsCr8/v-deo.html here is part 2
Part 3 ua-cam.com/video/kTPxh5arpuU/v-deo.html
Hi, Richard. Having the same question now as you had 9 months ago. Were your valves damaged by the pistons, or did you have luck? I have the same issue and hope the valves are fine
Nice. What software/App do you use to edit your footage Sandy? If you don't mind me asking...I've been tinkering a wee bit with UA-cam but clueless on the production side. Look forward to part deux!
Hi my friend I normally use iMovie on a Mac but my son has final cut so I've given that a try this project cheers sandy
Thanx Sandy. I'll look into those. Ian
What was the mileage? Thank you dear sir.
56000 miles cheers sandy
super detailed video
Thanks my friend glad to help, still to do part 2!!
Nice one Sandy.
Cheers Joe
Sandy you video is class m8 could have put it better my self-top class
Auxiliary belt last a lifetime, not a chance!
dont like the look of that oil pump chain seems very slack sandy must have been rattling away a fair bit
done a few of these the older polo has a balance shaft with two marks easy to get caught out because there is no woodruff key on the crankshaft if i remember correctly
Cheers Tony I'll check that out, Sandy
The oil pump chains are always slack, that’s normal for them, was even mentioned in our repair manuals as a note and not to replace it.
Cheers Christopher never knew that, sandy
Where is the part 2???
Coming soon hopefully next week
hi sandy , did yours rattle on start ups , ive got a fabia with the same engine and have been told its normal for a 2 to 3 second rattle so the tentioner builds up pressure , mines done 68k with a full history , last change the oil was thick black for some reason.
ua-cam.com/video/BOs_VrSWKhs/v-deo.html
The crank sensor is the cuntiest part of this job.
wow...what a poor design..ill stick with fiat fire engine..£35 and an hour of my time to change timing belt