+The Urban Gentry Please can you do a video on how to measure the accuracy of your watch. Describing how to measure whether it gains or loses. Thank you and another great video from you TGV.
I like to call the seller. Alot of times you can get a good feeling of who you're buying from that way. If the seller is well informed and knowledgeable specifically about the exact item you're buying that is obviously a positive. Calling is also a good way to find out how responsive a seller is, it's also faster (in theory) than email. Although I would note that to have your questions answered in writing can occasionally be very valuable. I feel these rules are very well laid out and comprehensive. Excellent video. Pure Class
Great points TGV! I also asked these very same questions with my first Omega purchase online. Positive feedback is very helpful. Make sure to read those feedback too, even though generic, it might tell you the shipping, the packaging and if the description of the auction is accurate. When I bought my Omega from a seller, I was pleased to have a response time of a few hours. This told me the seller was invested in making my purchase as pleasant as possible. Great video TGV, as always!
Your channel keeps pumping out fresh relevant topics and .......so often.. so quick.....do you Sleep TGV?? "GOOD GOD MAN,,, are you MAD?!?" have a nap!! :D Great stuff mate Cheers for keeping me entertained.
LOL, I will sleep when I am dead ;-) But seriously, means a lot to me to hear that. I have my patrons to think about, they invest in me to make content, and by god I will do that! Thank you for the kind words and support. Best regards, TGV
He meant money regarding product reviews, not donations....he asks that if you send him something or want a to give him a signifigant amount of money give it to a charity in his name. You hate TGV what are you doing on here anyway?
Good tips all. I've had good luck in all my purchases, but this is good info. Buying second hand/grey market luxury watches is the only way I feel I can justify the money spent which means I have to spend more time buying the seller. Having said that, I don't mind a polish done well as I tend to keep my watches rather than flip them. So I guess my only tip is this: never buy on first instinct, always let it go a while. If you still want it, ask all the questions and make up your mind if it's worth it. Some of my favourite pieces are polished (well). I don't mind at all.
All of these questions are perfectly reasonable. But speaking for myself (which is why I don't do vintage watches) it's one thing to ask the question, but entirely another to verify if the answer is truthful. The seller may not even know him/herself. One can ask if the parts are original or genuine, but if the answer is "yes", how do you verify without an in-depth knowledge of that particular watch or model? Not having this experience, I would have to go through a trusted dealer who had the knowledge and experience to vet these things out-- especially if I'm dropping real money on a vintage timepiece. I think your advice at around 7:15 is the best: Go with a trusted seller. That way if you don't have the experience, or don't want the hassle of going through a dealer/middleman, this is your best bet- especially if they offer guarantees or return policy.
Honestly, currently one of my favorite UA-camrs by far! I was already a watch guy, but this channel just made me realize how much more there is to appreciate about these great pieces. Channel is growing quick man, glad I was here early LOL Best Regards TGV
Excellent video! (again) I was about to pull the trigger on a 90's omega seamaster about 2 weeks ago. I asked those same questions and the guy didn't knew squat. As a buyer, the more informations/knowledge you have, the more power to you. Was able to drop 200$ off the price with those questions. He decided to keep the watch. Knowledge=Power. As for everything in life. Thank you again TGV, very informative!
"Knowledge=Power. As for everything in life." Absolutely, truer words have never been spoken! Excellent comment and very helpful for who ever may see this, thank you. Best regards, TGV
Excellent. I recently made 3 separate Rolex purchases from a dealer I found on Ebay, located in MO. Two had aftermarket (not Rolex) crystals that were not disclosed. Fortunately, the return policy allowed me to return them. I found Ebay accounts for two dealers, oddly sharing the same address. These two dealers are responsible for a high percentage of the Rolex listings on Ebay...a situation that essentially fosters price setting-artificially high prices, designed to give the impression that market prices is higher than reality. I also found that many of these Rolex sellers appear to have large inventories of used Rolex watches, but in reality, they are advertising watches they don't have in inventory, but can acquire from other sources. Don't accept crappy cell phone pics on a long distance deal. Ask for high res images, emailed so they can be viewed on a full size monitor. If they don't comply with this request, they may be hiding defects.
TGV, thank you so much for this wonderfully, insightful advice! I’ve been on the hunt for a particular watch, found it on Chrono24, reached out to the seller with your questions, and was met with an interesting answer. He responded with “It is impossible for me to answer all of those questions. Because of this, I will not sell you this watch.” Not sure if he wasn’t knowledgeable about the time piece or if he was just looking to turn a quick buck on someone? Anyways, I moved along as it didn’t feel right. Thank you again for all of your wonderful content!!
Great vid as I am just now entering the world of watch collecting I always welcome knowledge on buying watches and not getting burnt on a deal. Thank you.
Ciao Tristano! When someone is concentrated on the purchase, could happen that he is so excited that forgets all the important questions to ask (to me happen!! :-]) to avoid disappointments or scams. This is the reason why your video is the guideline to follow step by step, hence...thanks a lot for sharing it!! But for the moment, and for the above mentioned reasons, I'm prefering to buy brand new watches (less then 1 k/eur). This because I have the warranty, the origianl boxes and papers, the return is granted and because...I'm the first to wear it! PS: another suggestion I have for you all: If you have doubts, especially for those sellers not present on the most used markets (like ebay, chrono24 and so on) be sure to check online the status of the VAT code on the specific website of the Tax Authority of each country. You can see if the license is active or not (this means that is selling or not), you can see from when it is active and the name of the owner of the VAT code as well. In Italy this is possible through the website of AGENZIA DELLE ENTRATE. Once happened to me that I had doubts (the price was really to low!), and in this way I found that the VAT was not registered (or it has been retrat, I don't remember). I saved money!! Always be careful because......"fidarsi, è bene. Non fidarsi, è meglio!"
I like to ask if it comes from a "smoke free" or "cat free" home. There is nothing worse than buying something high end and you open the box and it stinks of cigarettes or cats. (this may seem strange, but once it happens to you, you'll never want it to happen again)
SmokeRingsPipeDreams I know this is old. I'm a smoker and I also ask the same thing, especially with cars. I may smoke but I don't smoke inside my home or in a vehicle.
Wow , did that really happen to you? As a watch guy myself and not a smoker that would be a nightmare to deal with honestly. Until the smell would go off i am imagining myself going nuts.
As a larger man, I would ask about additional links. I shop pawn shops a lot, and arbitrage the Ebay markets (buy pawnshop ritzy quartz, sell on Ebay, oddly, I started by purchasing pawnshop hard drives).
lol had a frankenwatch hamilton ...and guess what ...the adjustment shaft broke after winding it ...hahahaha.... the watchmaker gave me such a crazy look when i entered it for repairs
Regarding asking how the watch is performing, that is quite significant. And so true, it is incredible how many sellers don't say whether or not the watch is working (if they bother to include a description at all). Even though they say the watch is running, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's keeping good time. Having purchased many used pieces, I've been burned on quite a few.
Thank you for that Ken, you are not the only one to get burned, but the great thing is, it makes use wiser and smarter at finding a good deal right? Happy future hunting my friend. Best regards, TGV
I don't mind polishing as long as it is done well and not too often. However, I bought a used GMT Master II where the Rolex logo on the bracelet has almost disappeared. I would recommend that if you are buying an expensive watch do it in person and inspect it thoroughly, I wish I had.
I would also like to tell you TGV, that you have motivated me to start a collection of my own! Thank you so much for all advice that your videos have given me. Cheers!
When asking a seller when a watch was last serviced, is it customary/reasonable for the potential buyer to ask for proof of last service, i.e., provide copy of the invoice/receipt?
Always do your homework before you pull the trigger. I couldn't agree more about the better rated sellers, you may end up paying more but as you say they have a reputation to uphold, so they tend to offer a better quality service in general. They usually but not always offer the best examples as well.
TGV you've always been an icon to me when it comes to the watch world. You actually aspired me into collecting watches. That and ever since my father had given me watches as gifts that I've learned to appreciate a good time piece. A unique piece and my favorite out of my entire collection is the Hamilton Khaki Frogman in Titanium. It's one of the older models released a long time ago with the two canteen caps that screw down to keep the crowns safe from any water damage that may occur. I would like to see you do a review on that watch as I feel that it truly is a unique piece with a one of a kind design that many watch collectors may love.
I love watches how they are even if they are polished or franken watches because i love the mechanism more than the watch itself and also every watch i restore that had some scratches dirt oxidation i give a light touch with a gold polishing cloth even if its not gold
Great video TGV, I have to compliment you sir on the positive impact you have on Federico's channel. It's a great channel thus far. I really enjoy when you both do a video, the intro has a sopranos feel to it lol.👍🇮🇹
Can I just pay you a percentage to find me a solid omega seamaster deville cause you know what's good...and I don't...even after your videos. Call me chicken 😊
Hi...I think also when buying a watch, don't buy one that is just showing a stock photo, or only one photo of the watch...Also ask for the size of the watch, and length of the bracelet/strap, no good to you if it arrives, and it looks like a pin on your arm, (ask for the diameter!) or doesn't fit, due to it not being long enough, could end up costing you quite a bit for extra links, especially on a high end watch....If the watch bracelet has been altered/shortened, ask if it comes with the links that have been removed!
Great video as usual! I have to thank you TGV my Sarb033 just arrived and i put on a black Colareb strap and it looks stunningly beautiful. Without your channel I would have never found these two products.
Thank me later: 1. Are all parts original? 2. Are all parts of the watch 100% genuine? 3. When was the watch last serviced? 4. How long have you owned the watch? 5. Is there any noticeable wear or damage on the watch? 6. How is the watch performing? 7. What is the reputation/experience/ feedback rating of the seller? 8. What does the sale include? 9. Has the watch been refurbished or polished? 10. What is the return policy of the store?
Thank you Jonathan, along with my "10 questions" video and a ton of research your will do great. Lot of bargains out there to be have. Best regards, TGV
Another one of your great and amazing reviews. You raise some great points and possible issues arising if questions are not asked. I really enjoy your reviews thoroughly and you are really pumping out these lengthy and worthwhile vids TGV. Are you doing this full-time?
Hi. Thank you for this video. It is very timely as I've decided to educate myself and look to buy one or two vintage watches. I got a 1961 Hamilton M69-2 recently which I'm really in love with. It's got two things I was looking for: handwinding and a smaller size at 34mm.
So glad I could help, happy hunting! Oooooh I love a good vintage 60s Hammy!!!! Love the mid century 34mm sizes too, so much more classy, enjoy. Best regards, TGV
I think I would have split the question of warranty out of question 3 and put it into a question of it's own, because it's so important. Because you need to know, who is providing the warranty, the seller, the manufacturer (if you were buying nearly new) or a third party. How long is the warranty? How do you claim, who do you contact? Will any paperwork be provided for said warranty? If the piece is being sold with the balance of it's manufacturer's international warranty, does the watch come with a valid AD stamped and/or activated warranty card? Might be handy to know who the original AD was and when the watch was originally sold new, though this would crossover with question 8 about determining the item's ownership history. Be wary if the watch might have been originally been sold grey.
TGV! Why couldn't you have posted this one day earlier!!! Lol, I just bought a Steinhart OV1 online on a whim. However, I did buy it from one of The Urban Gentry Facebook members, so I'm sure it'll be fine.
One other thing to consider when buying vintage is SIZE, it really does matter. I purchased a great Hamilton a couple of weeks ago and it was WAY smaller than I expected.
Awsome video as always TGV! Very helpful advice, especially for beginners like myself. What I would add, is always check for customs when buying online let's say amazon or ebay. I got charged extra for my skx as it came from overseas (Japan) and I only found out when the mailman came at my door!
All great questions. The seller's reputation and the time keeping/performance of the watch are the 2 main ones I rely on. I'm a member of WatchUSeek and I ALWAYS look at their postings and activity on the forums as a guide to how they'll be to deal with. While not specifically a question I do value those that contribute to the forums and feel they're going to be better sellers/buyers than those that don't contribute at all. Of course, there's always exceptions to all of these points but they are good general rules to go by. I've yet to have problems buying and selling from fellow forumites and like minded enthusiasts. Ciao, John
Excellent advise there John, nice one! I must admit, as you know I don't venture on to the forums enough but you certainly have made me more interested. Thank you my friend, Best regards, TGV
A very popular seller of Russian vintage watches on Ebay says that he's "happy" to answer questions. As it turned out, he wasn't happy answering questions.
I would add to inquire if you are buying online, the method of payment the seller accepts. If you are buying out of country or out of state, many will be wire only, some will be PayPal. If wire only, sometimes you can get a better price, however, be sure as TGV says, that the seller has many positive references, and or preferably the seller is an established reputable grey market online dealer as you have zero protection with wire payments if the watch is not as represented in the add. PayPal, there is protection for the buyer however, you will have to file a complaint and undergo a process there.
Bought a "vintage luxury watch" on ebay one week ago. Hour/Minute hand had been replaced, dail was cleaned, case highly polished and the back was glued. You count tell from the pictures. I returnted it and hopefully I will get my money back...
I avoid eBay like the plague for watches for this very reason. Also, there are a large amount of scammers on eBay selling replica watches while stating they are authentic. The one good thing is that eBay does have buyer protection, so as long as you document everything carefully, you should get your money back!
Excellent points in this vid. I've had experience with having to ask if black dial Tudor Princes have had their dials 'touched up'. Try to find out if there has been a re-paint of the dial!
A great video. Caveat emptor! Always bear in mind local laws on consumer rights too. If in doubt, check google. It pays to know your options if something "goes South"!
great video with lots of great tips. I must confess that I hesitate buying second hand. Some of the pieces I like don't come with box or papers or even both.I can't understand how this is possible coming from trusted dealers (chrono 24) that sometimes are jewelers in their own countries. I guess that for brands like Omega or Rolex you can send the piece to Switzerland and get it serviced and obtain a warranty of the repair and a box. However you'll spend a lot of cash buying a "birth certificate to your piece".
Very true. Well, form ym own experience I have sold watches without the box or papers imply because I left them in other countries I had lived in and they simply were too costly or large to bring with me, that's is just me. Once your confidence and experience grows, so will your daring. However, box and papers always will be preferable Thank you, always enjoy your feedback. Best regards, TGV
Hi there, just got myself a squale 1521 in blue Matt. Totally agree and share your love for this watch. Just wondering on your thoughts on Bremont? I was given an MB 3 last year and I wasn't sure but it's totally grown on me. Love the show by the way. Keep up the great work.
Great video, as always! Good job. I would also add checking for valid AD stamps in the certificate, especially if it's a high end luxury watch. If you did mention this in your video and I somehow missed it, I do apologize.
Hi TGV, Thank you for this helpful video. It could really help when I'm in a rush again to make a seemingly bargain! ;) But sometimes you have to take a risk. I bought my vintage Atlantic Worldmaster marked as "defect". It was obvious the seller has absolutely no experience with watches. He even put on the strap the wrong way. But from his description and the photos he provides, I was sure I could take the risk. Best regards, Claus
Hey TGV this was an awesome video, Im an loyal watcher. I usually watch your videos at work during down time. Are there any ebay sellers that you recommend due to past experience?
Always, always learning new stuff! Thank you very much, TGV! P.S. Have you tried the Squale with your second version of the Urban Gentry NATO? I think the white will look fantastic with the azzurro 1521! Best regards, Michele.
Do you have any advice on the best places to buy watches? Especially good quality pre-owned watches? I know ebay can be fantastic but are there any sources more specific to horological pieces?
Great vid as always Tristano, good info to take on board, may I ask why we never see you wearing the Submariner, I have seen it in your SOTC vids but never on your wrist, is this kept for special occasions only ? Cheers mate.
Very good point, I will wear it tomorrow! I must admit, with its special sentimental status I tend to save it for special occasions like you say. Another SOTC is coming up soon. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Great points! I am new to all this. What about the seller having the original receipt as opposed to just box and papers. Is that part crucial or are box and papers enough?
From the sellers perspective: there is always a first watch you sell, most of us will not sell dozens of watches in their lives, so the reputation as you say will never be good. how can i still show i am trustworthy?
Excellent and very helpful video When buying from a private seller, Is it ok to ask for serial number, to do your own research? Asking for extra photos, or even taking yours in order to doublecheck i guess sounds fine. I am interested to buy a Longines watch, as far as I already checked, Longines gives for free an "Extract from Archives", an official Longines paper in English about any of their masterpieces. This is not an authenticity paper (you have to pay for it) but at least it's for free. You only need to provide them the serial number and high quality photographs. Could the excistence (or not) of this paper provide some kind of information about the seller. For what "innocent" reason someone who claims to own an original piece, doesn't provide a "zero cost" paper like that?
Useful Video TGV, quick question: You've not mentioned Jomashop for awhile? In the past you've used them, to acquire the Oris Aquis As we all know, but Would you still recommend them today? Last time I used them it was all fine, but this time I'm thinking of spending up to & including $700!! Hamiliton Pioneer & Oris Moonphase. Reviews are a mixed bag TBH, so I just wanted your opinion on the subject? Or is Chrono24 the go to place now? Cheers! All the best. BMJ ENGLAND! ✌🏻️
I recently bought a first edition Omega Speedmaster. There were huge amounts of polishing on it, you couldn't really see it the the pictures. So, I returned it, and the seller was nice enough to refund me my money.
thanks for the advice tvg as a new watch enthusiast it does help i was wondering would you be able to do a vid for us of the better more reputable places to buy i like ebay for price but i am always scared to buy a piece just in case it is as you said not 100 percent original i saw a few recently an omega seamaster 120 for 300 pounds for example it looked ok but it felt wrong any help would be appreciated thanks
You can substitute ‘watch’ with ‘car’, ‘boat’, whatever and your questions are still valid. Excellent video
Great advice - after watching for the past couple years I’m finally zeroing I’m on my first preowned Omega.
Literally just made a template of questions to send to all future E-bay sellers from the suggestions of this video. Thanks for the tips!
+The Urban Gentry Please can you do a video on how to measure the accuracy of your watch. Describing how to measure whether it gains or loses. Thank you and another great video from you TGV.
I like to call the seller. Alot of times you can get a good feeling of who you're buying from that way. If the seller is well informed and knowledgeable specifically about the exact item you're buying that is obviously a positive. Calling is also a good way to find out how responsive a seller is, it's also faster (in theory) than email. Although I would note that to have your questions answered in writing can occasionally be very valuable. I feel these rules are very well laid out and comprehensive. Excellent video. Pure Class
Great points TGV! I also asked these very same questions with my first Omega purchase online. Positive feedback is very helpful. Make sure to read those feedback too, even though generic, it might tell you the shipping, the packaging and if the description of the auction is accurate. When I bought my Omega from a seller, I was pleased to have a response time of a few hours. This told me the seller was invested in making my purchase as pleasant as possible. Great video TGV, as always!
Excellent comment, thank you Shawn for sharing that, really helps future viewers of this video.
Feedback is everything!
Best regards,
TGV
Your channel keeps pumping out fresh relevant topics and .......so often.. so quick.....do you Sleep TGV?? "GOOD GOD MAN,,, are you MAD?!?" have a nap!! :D Great stuff mate Cheers for keeping me entertained.
LOL, I will sleep when I am dead ;-)
But seriously, means a lot to me to hear that. I have my patrons to think about, they invest in me to make content, and by god I will do that! Thank you for the kind words and support.
Best regards,
TGV
The Urban Gentry Best $21 a month I've ever spent, you blow my Cable TV out of the water sir :D Much Thanks
I think he does this full time now. But yes, prolific nonetheless.
He meant money regarding product reviews, not donations....he asks that if you send him something or want a to give him a signifigant amount of money give it to a charity in his name. You hate TGV what are you doing on here anyway?
Bobby Digital .......your story has become tiresome....
Good tips all. I've had good luck in all my purchases, but this is good info. Buying second hand/grey market luxury watches is the only way I feel I can justify the money spent which means I have to spend more time buying the seller. Having said that, I don't mind a polish done well as I tend to keep my watches rather than flip them. So I guess my only tip is this: never buy on first instinct, always let it go a while. If you still want it, ask all the questions and make up your mind if it's worth it. Some of my favourite pieces are polished (well). I don't mind at all.
So glad to hear,
VERY good advise there, thank you for sharing that.
Best regards,
TGV
All of these questions are perfectly reasonable. But speaking for myself (which is why I don't do vintage watches) it's one thing to ask the question, but entirely another to verify if the answer is truthful. The seller may not even know him/herself. One can ask if the parts are original or genuine, but if the answer is "yes", how do you verify without an in-depth knowledge of that particular watch or model? Not having this experience, I would have to go through a trusted dealer who had the knowledge and experience to vet these things out-- especially if I'm dropping real money on a vintage timepiece.
I think your advice at around 7:15 is the best: Go with a trusted seller. That way if you don't have the experience, or don't want the hassle of going through a dealer/middleman, this is your best bet- especially if they offer guarantees or return policy.
Honestly, currently one of my favorite UA-camrs by far! I was already a watch guy, but this channel just made me realize how much more there is to appreciate about these great pieces. Channel is growing quick man, glad I was here early LOL
Best Regards TGV
Thank you Jay, very honoured and flattered, glad to have aboard!
Best regards,
TGV
Excellent video! (again) I was about to pull the trigger on a 90's omega seamaster about 2 weeks ago. I asked those same questions and the guy didn't knew squat. As a buyer, the more informations/knowledge you have, the more power to you. Was able to drop 200$ off the price with those questions. He decided to keep the watch. Knowledge=Power. As for everything in life. Thank you again TGV, very informative!
"Knowledge=Power. As for everything in life." Absolutely, truer words have never been spoken!
Excellent comment and very helpful for who ever may see this, thank you.
Best regards,
TGV
Excellent. I recently made 3 separate Rolex purchases from a dealer I found on Ebay, located in MO. Two had aftermarket (not Rolex) crystals that were not disclosed. Fortunately, the return policy allowed me to return them. I found Ebay accounts for two dealers, oddly sharing the same address. These two dealers are responsible for a high percentage of the Rolex listings on Ebay...a situation that essentially fosters price setting-artificially high prices, designed to give the impression that market prices is higher than reality. I also found that many of these Rolex sellers appear to have large inventories of used Rolex watches, but in reality, they are advertising watches they don't have in inventory, but can acquire from other sources. Don't accept crappy cell phone pics on a long distance deal. Ask for high res images, emailed so they can be viewed on a full size monitor. If they don't comply with this request, they may be hiding defects.
I most enjoy listening to you at 1.5X playback speed! Nicely done.
TGV, thank you so much for this wonderfully, insightful advice! I’ve been on the hunt for a particular watch, found it on Chrono24, reached out to the seller with your questions, and was met with an interesting answer. He responded with “It is impossible for me to answer all of those questions. Because of this, I will not sell you this watch.” Not sure if he wasn’t knowledgeable about the time piece or if he was just looking to turn a quick buck on someone? Anyways, I moved along as it didn’t feel right. Thank you again for all of your wonderful content!!
Great vid as I am just now entering the world of watch collecting I always welcome knowledge on buying watches and not getting burnt on a deal. Thank you.
So glad to hear and welcome to the best hobby a person can have!
Happy and safe hunting ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
Ciao Tristano! When someone is concentrated on the purchase, could happen that he is so excited that forgets all the important questions to ask (to me happen!! :-]) to avoid disappointments or scams. This is the reason why your video is the guideline to follow step by step, hence...thanks a lot for sharing it!! But for the moment, and for the above mentioned reasons, I'm prefering to buy brand new watches (less then 1 k/eur). This because I have the warranty, the origianl boxes and papers, the return is granted and because...I'm the first to wear it!
PS: another suggestion I have for you all:
If you have doubts, especially for those sellers not present on the most used markets (like ebay, chrono24 and so on) be sure to check online the status of the VAT code on the specific website of the Tax Authority of each country. You can see if the license is active or not (this means that is selling or not), you can see from when it is active and the name of the owner of the VAT code as well. In Italy this is possible through the website of AGENZIA DELLE ENTRATE. Once happened to me that I had doubts (the price was really to low!), and in this way I found that the VAT was not registered (or it has been retrat, I don't remember). I saved money!!
Always be careful because......"fidarsi, è bene. Non fidarsi, è meglio!"
Very good points Diego, as always.
I will make a note of your suggestions too.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
I like to ask if it comes from a "smoke free" or "cat free" home. There is nothing worse than buying something high end and you open the box and it stinks of cigarettes or cats. (this may seem strange, but once it happens to you, you'll never want it to happen again)
SmokeRingsPipeDreams I know this is old. I'm a smoker and I also ask the same thing, especially with cars. I may smoke but I don't smoke inside my home or in a vehicle.
Wow , did that really happen to you?
As a watch guy myself and not a smoker that would be a nightmare to deal with honestly. Until the smell would go off i am imagining myself going nuts.
As a larger man, I would ask about additional links. I shop pawn shops a lot, and arbitrage the Ebay markets (buy pawnshop ritzy quartz, sell on Ebay, oddly, I started by purchasing pawnshop hard drives).
lol had a frankenwatch hamilton ...and guess what ...the adjustment shaft broke after winding it ...hahahaha.... the watchmaker gave me such a crazy look when i entered it for repairs
Regarding asking how the watch is performing, that is quite significant. And so true, it is incredible how many sellers don't say whether or not the watch is working (if they bother to include a description at all). Even though they say the watch is running, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's keeping good time. Having purchased many used pieces, I've been burned on quite a few.
Thank you for that Ken, you are not the only one to get burned, but the great thing is, it makes use wiser and smarter at finding a good deal right? Happy future hunting my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
I don't mind polishing as long as it is done well and not too often. However, I bought a used GMT Master II where the Rolex logo on the bracelet has almost disappeared. I would recommend that if you are buying an expensive watch do it in person and inspect it thoroughly, I wish I had.
Excellent point, sorry to hear about the GMT. I guess asking to view the watch would be a great addition to the list?
Thank you sir.
Best regards,
TGV
+The Urban Gentry Rules Yep, but pretty much rules out buying online for me. But I would rather spend a bit more and not be disappointed.
I would also like to tell you TGV, that you have motivated me to start a collection of my own! Thank you so much for all advice that your videos have given me. Cheers!
You are very welcome my friend.
Thank you so much for the kind words, really makes it worth it for me.
Best regards,
TGV
When asking a seller when a watch was last serviced, is it customary/reasonable for the potential buyer to ask for proof of last service, i.e., provide copy of the invoice/receipt?
Spot on, very good point. Ask for receipts.
Thank you :D
Best regards,
TGV
Always do your homework before you pull the trigger. I couldn't agree more about the better rated sellers, you may end up paying more but as you say they have a reputation to uphold, so they tend to offer a better quality service in general. They usually but not always offer the best examples as well.
Indeed!!!!! Spot on Stephen, thank you.
Best regards,
TGV
TGV you've always been an icon to me when it comes to the watch world. You actually aspired me into collecting watches. That and ever since my father had given me watches as gifts that I've learned to appreciate a good time piece. A unique piece and my favorite out of my entire collection is the Hamilton Khaki Frogman in Titanium. It's one of the older models released a long time ago with the two canteen caps that screw down to keep the crowns safe from any water damage that may occur. I would like to see you do a review on that watch as I feel that it truly is a unique piece with a one of a kind design that many watch collectors may love.
Thank you Franko, very honoured and flattered.
Comments like this make it all worth it!
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TGV
I love watches how they are even if they are polished or franken watches because i love the mechanism more than the watch itself and also every watch i restore that had some scratches dirt oxidation i give a light touch with a gold polishing cloth even if its not gold
All questions seem obvious but it is very helpful to hear them lined up. Thank you for yet another great content, best wishes from Sweden, Erik
Thank you Cedar, very kind. I hope it wasn't to condescending, but I often forget so many of these I felt it had to be said.
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TGV
Oh, and ask how long the bracelet is! Worst thing in the world is getting a bracelet that is too short without any extra links!
This is a real problem for me. The strange thing is that my wrists do not even look large.
Can you possibly start naming the intro music in your description. I'm just interested to know
Ryan Jenkins Have you heard of Spotify or Google?
Great video TGV, I have to compliment you sir on the positive impact you have on Federico's channel. It's a great channel thus far. I really enjoy when you both do a video, the intro has a sopranos feel to it lol.👍🇮🇹
Thank you David, makes my day to hear that.
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Spot on TGV! Your 10 questions will greatly reduce the risks of buying on-line. Some perhaps even useful at an AD. Cheers!
Thank you John :D
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TGV
Can I just pay you a percentage to find me a solid omega seamaster deville cause you know what's good...and I don't...even after your videos. Call me chicken 😊
I can call you a whole turkey, but it`ll cost ya ;)
Hi...I think also when buying a watch, don't buy one that is just showing a stock photo, or only one photo of the watch...Also ask for the size of the watch, and length of the bracelet/strap, no good to you if it arrives, and it looks like a pin on your arm, (ask for the diameter!) or doesn't fit, due to it not being long enough, could end up costing you quite a bit for extra links, especially on a high end watch....If the watch bracelet has been altered/shortened, ask if it comes with the links that have been removed!
A service by a great watch brand will cost on average US $ 555.00 but it will run for another 10 years!
We like Your screen savers.
This came at a perfect time. I am looking for a Seiko SKX on eBay. You couldnt have timed this one better for me TGV! Thanks!
So glad to hear, happy hunting!
Thank you,
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TGV
Great video as usual!
I have to thank you TGV my Sarb033 just arrived and i put on a black Colareb strap and it looks stunningly beautiful.
Without your channel I would have never found these two products.
Thank you Damir so glad to hear, Horay! A SARB033, Pure class my friend, well as you know know!
Enjoy it!!!!
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TGV
Damir K. Hello may I ask you where did you buy that particular watch from?
Great video and very helpful tips. Useful advice which should help watch enthusiasts such as myself and others. Regards
Thank me later:
1. Are all parts original?
2. Are all parts of the watch 100% genuine?
3. When was the watch last serviced?
4. How long have you owned the watch?
5. Is there any noticeable wear or damage on the watch?
6. How is the watch performing?
7. What is the reputation/experience/ feedback rating of the seller?
8. What does the sale include?
9. Has the watch been refurbished or polished?
10. What is the return policy of the store?
Still lovin' that intro; you and Ernie made my holiday weekend. :-)
Thank you Chris :D
Have a great weekend,
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TGV
Thanks for the time, I know that most of this is common sense, but I have been guilty of forgetting to ask some of these questions myself.
Thanks TGV. I'm nervous about buying used, but if I ever decide to this will help. Great channel overall as well! Cheers from Canada.
Thank you Jonathan, along with my "10 questions" video and a ton of research your will do great. Lot of bargains out there to be have.
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TGV
I have seen many of your videos and I kind of like your enthusiasm. I´m affected so to speak.
Very glad to hear, thank you so much Magnus.
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TGV
Another one of your great and amazing reviews. You raise some great points and possible issues arising if questions are not asked. I really enjoy your reviews thoroughly and you are really pumping out these lengthy and worthwhile vids TGV. Are you doing this full-time?
Thank you, I am trying to make a go of it, yes.
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TGV
Hi. Thank you for this video. It is very timely as I've decided to educate myself and look to buy one or two vintage watches.
I got a 1961 Hamilton M69-2 recently which I'm really in love with. It's got two things I was looking for: handwinding and a smaller size at 34mm.
So glad I could help, happy hunting!
Oooooh I love a good vintage 60s Hammy!!!! Love the mid century 34mm sizes too, so much more classy, enjoy.
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TGV
I think I would have split the question of warranty out of question 3 and put it into a question of it's own, because it's so important. Because you need to know, who is providing the warranty, the seller, the manufacturer (if you were buying nearly new) or a third party. How long is the warranty? How do you claim, who do you contact? Will any paperwork be provided for said warranty?
If the piece is being sold with the balance of it's manufacturer's international warranty, does the watch come with a valid AD stamped and/or activated warranty card? Might be handy to know who the original AD was and when the watch was originally sold new, though this would crossover with question 8 about determining the item's ownership history. Be wary if the watch might have been originally been sold grey.
TGV! Why couldn't you have posted this one day earlier!!! Lol, I just bought a Steinhart OV1 online on a whim. However, I did buy it from one of The Urban Gentry Facebook members, so I'm sure it'll be fine.
Thank you William, I am sure you will be fine, great bunch in there.
Let me know how it goes, enjoy it!
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TGV
Another great video. I have been very luck so far but will consider all of your questions in the future. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Thomas, so glad to hear, happy hunting my friend!
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TGV
One other thing to consider when buying vintage is SIZE, it really does matter. I purchased a great Hamilton a couple of weeks ago and it was WAY smaller than I expected.
Excellent point, I guess requesting clear dimensions always helps. Nice one Thomas!
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TGV
Awsome video as always TGV! Very helpful advice, especially for beginners like myself. What I would add, is always check for customs when buying online let's say amazon or ebay. I got charged extra for my skx as it came from overseas (Japan) and I only found out when the mailman came at my door!
So glad to hear! Customs!!! Yes!!!! Very true, I might have to mention that in a part 2, nice one.
Thank you.
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TGV
Thanks TGV,-that was very sound advice and you raised points that I haven't thought of,-this is why you're the Governor.
Thank you so much, very flattered :D
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TGV
No offence but I always thought that was Archibald's moniker
I recently bought a vintage JLC and I asked the seller if I can meet him and show it to a watch service guy. I was able to see under the hood
Excellent video!!! Ive been waiting for it for so long lol! Thanks a lot! Keep the good work! Cheers!!!
Sorry for the delay my friend, got there in the end, glad you liked it.
Thank you as always,
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TGV
All great questions. The seller's reputation and the time keeping/performance of the watch are the 2 main ones I rely on. I'm a member of WatchUSeek and I ALWAYS look at their postings and activity on the forums as a guide to how they'll be to deal with. While not specifically a question I do value those that contribute to the forums and feel they're going to be better sellers/buyers than those that don't contribute at all. Of course, there's always exceptions to all of these points but they are good general rules to go by. I've yet to have problems buying and selling from fellow forumites and like minded enthusiasts. Ciao, John
Excellent advise there John, nice one! I must admit, as you know I don't venture on to the forums enough but you certainly have made me more interested.
Thank you my friend,
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TGV
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for this video!
Great video as always, and another great intro, love The Last Shadow Puppets.
Thank you Alberto :D
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TGV
Thanks for the tips, TGV. I’m considering buying my first pre-owed watch. 😬
A very popular seller of Russian vintage watches on Ebay says that he's "happy" to answer questions. As it turned out, he wasn't happy answering questions.
Thank you for sharing tips with us. I am also on your Facebook page and am enjoying being in the group!
Thank you Elizabeth, so please to hear, great to have you with us.
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Thank you. Look forward to learning more about watches, vintage in particular.
You and me must be about the only females here on TGV's page 😜😂😏
Vanessa, that's true. It is nice to get input from a man's perspective and maybe you and I can give our opinion from a woman's point of view!
I would add to inquire if you are buying online, the method of payment the seller accepts. If you are buying out of country or out of state, many will be wire only, some will be PayPal. If wire only, sometimes you can get a better price, however, be sure as TGV says, that the seller has many positive references, and or preferably the seller is an established reputable grey market online dealer as you have zero protection with wire payments if the watch is not as represented in the add. PayPal, there is protection for the buyer however, you will have to file a complaint and undergo a process there.
Excellent comment Andrew,
Thank you,
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TGV
Bought a "vintage luxury watch" on ebay one week ago. Hour/Minute hand had been replaced, dail was cleaned, case highly polished and the back was glued. You count tell from the pictures. I returnted it and hopefully I will get my money back...
I avoid eBay like the plague for watches for this very reason. Also, there are a large amount of scammers on eBay selling replica watches while stating they are authentic. The one good thing is that eBay does have buyer protection, so as long as you document everything carefully, you should get your money back!
Excellent points in this vid. I've had experience with having to ask if black dial Tudor Princes have had their dials 'touched up'. Try to find out if there has been a re-paint of the dial!
Thank you Neill,
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TGV
thanks for the tips TGV. Saved me a lot of headaches!
Thank you, that makes it all worth it.
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TGV
Great. Video, outlining a great set of questions, much appreciated.
Thank you Bob! :D
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TGV
Hey TGV, we miss the desk tours !!
Thanks for all the tips :)
Thank you Sid,
Long over due for another "desk tour" ;-)
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TGV
Great video TGV! I would love a review on the Seiko SARX033.
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Alex
Dying to review that piece! Great choice, as soon as I can get my hands on one I will try.
Stay tuned.
Thank you Alfonzo,
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TGV
A great video. Caveat emptor! Always bear in mind local laws on consumer rights too. If in doubt, check google. It pays to know your options if something "goes South"!
Very true,
Thank you Adam,
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TGV
great video with lots of great tips. I must confess that I hesitate buying second hand. Some of the pieces I like don't come with box or papers or even both.I can't understand how this is possible coming from trusted dealers (chrono 24) that sometimes are jewelers in their own countries. I guess that for brands like Omega or Rolex you can send the piece to Switzerland and get it serviced and obtain a warranty of the repair and a box. However you'll spend a lot of cash buying a "birth certificate to your piece".
Very true. Well, form ym own experience I have sold watches without the box or papers imply because I left them in other countries I had lived in and they simply were too costly or large to bring with me, that's is just me.
Once your confidence and experience grows, so will your daring. However, box and papers always will be preferable
Thank you, always enjoy your feedback.
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TGV
I would recommend buy from authorised retailer . I bought mine new with 4 year warranty 2 from tag and 2 from dealer.
Very could point!
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TGV
Hi there, just got myself a squale 1521 in blue Matt. Totally agree and share your love for this watch. Just wondering on your thoughts on Bremont? I was given an MB 3 last year and I wasn't sure but it's totally grown on me. Love the show by the way. Keep up the great work.
Great video, as always! Good job. I would also add checking for valid AD stamps in the certificate, especially if it's a high end luxury watch. If you did mention this in your video and I somehow missed it, I do apologize.
Hi TGV,
Thank you for this helpful video. It could really help when I'm in a rush again to make a seemingly bargain! ;) But sometimes you have to take a risk. I bought my vintage Atlantic Worldmaster marked as "defect". It was obvious the seller has absolutely no experience with watches. He even put on the strap the wrong way. But from his description and the photos he provides, I was sure I could take the risk.
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Claus
Thank you Claus, very good point as always, sometimes a risk can pay off.
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TGV
Great educational /instructional video. Much appreciated.
Thank you Mike :D
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Excellent video and super helpful as always!
Thank you John, so glad to hear :D
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TGV
this is very helpful especially for a newbie like me
this is the tag heuer 300m diver chronic with ceramic bezel all black pvd an a threaded strap.
Hey TGV this was an awesome video, Im an loyal watcher. I usually watch your videos at work during down time.
Are there any ebay sellers that you recommend due to past experience?
Always, always learning new stuff!
Thank you very much, TGV!
P.S. Have you tried the Squale with your second version of the Urban Gentry NATO? I think the white will look fantastic with the azzurro 1521!
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Michele.
Thank you Michele,
Great idea about the nato on the 1521, I must try that!!!! :D
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TGV
We got Carravagio on screen 😄👍
Brilliant advice TGV!
Thank you Dhaval,
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TGV
Great advice T, solid video.
Thank you Justin :D
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TGV
Hi tgv fantastic vid great advice what more could we ask , thank you sir, all the best my friend, onwards and upwards, Ryan.
Thank you Ryan, it would not be complete without your approval!
O&U!!! ;-)
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TGV
Do you have any advice on the best places to buy watches? Especially good quality pre-owned watches? I know ebay can be fantastic but are there any sources more specific to horological pieces?
Very useful video dear TGV.
Thanks for the very good Guid....I am always hesitated buying watches second hand etc.
Danke, Thanks, Hvala =)
Danke Ante! :D
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TGV
Great vid as always Tristano, good info to take on board, may I ask why we never see you wearing the Submariner, I have seen it in your SOTC vids but never on your wrist, is this kept for special occasions only ? Cheers mate.
Very good point, I will wear it tomorrow! I must admit, with its special sentimental status I tend to save it for special occasions like you say. Another SOTC is coming up soon.
Thank you,
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TGV
Hi TGV, I dont see you wear the Submariner much! Maybe next episode?
Very good point, the second comment on this subject today strangely enough. I will wear it in the next episode!
Thank you,
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TGV
Another good video.
Cheers Rich
Thank you Richard,
Very kind,
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TGV
I would recommend only paying with PayPal on eBay. This way it's easier to get your money back if there's anything wrong.
Very true, nice one!
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TGV
Great information and very informative.
Thank you John, always appreciated.
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TGV
Great points! I am new to all this. What about the seller having the original receipt as opposed to just box and papers. Is that part crucial or are box and papers enough?
Great video and topic! Keep it up!
Thank you Ash :D
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From the sellers perspective: there is always a first watch you sell, most of us will not sell dozens of watches in their lives, so the reputation as you say will never be good. how can i still show i am trustworthy?
Top work you are really professional!
Excellent and very helpful video
When buying from a private seller, Is it ok to ask for serial number, to do your own research? Asking for extra photos, or even taking yours in order to doublecheck i guess sounds fine.
I am interested to buy a Longines watch, as far as I already checked, Longines gives for free an "Extract from Archives", an official Longines paper in English about any of their masterpieces. This is not an authenticity paper (you have to pay for it) but at least it's for free. You only need to provide them the serial number and high quality photographs. Could the excistence (or not) of this paper provide some kind of information about the seller.
For what "innocent" reason someone who claims to own an original piece, doesn't provide a "zero cost" paper like that?
Perfect video :) Very much needed!!
Thank you Kibby! :D
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TGV
Useful Video TGV, quick question: You've not mentioned Jomashop for awhile? In the past you've used them, to acquire the Oris Aquis As we all know, but Would you still recommend them today? Last time I used them it was all fine, but this time I'm thinking of spending up to & including $700!! Hamiliton Pioneer & Oris Moonphase. Reviews are a mixed bag TBH, so I just wanted your opinion on the subject? Or is Chrono24 the go to place now? Cheers! All the best. BMJ ENGLAND! ✌🏻️
Good video TGV. What about some tips on where and how to sell a piece.
Very good idea, I have a video like that planned.
Thank you for reminding me.
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TGV
I recently bought a first edition Omega Speedmaster. There were huge amounts of polishing on it, you couldn't really see it the the pictures. So, I returned it, and the seller was nice enough to refund me my money.
Thank you, glad you got it sorted.
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TGV
This guy works a lot
thanks for the advice tvg as a new watch enthusiast it does help i was wondering would you be able to do a vid for us of the better more reputable places to buy i like ebay for price but i am always scared to buy a piece just in case it is as you said not 100 percent original i saw a few recently an omega seamaster 120 for 300 pounds for example it looked ok but it felt wrong any help would be appreciated thanks
Totally agreed! I'm a bit circumspect of Russian sellers.