dont understand how can you compare 9k to 6k..doesn't matter how skilled Sumiya is,Miracle still has huge advantage,as he has the better understanding of the game.P.S Miracle has way stronger opponents
nah not true I think 6k up is already as they say pro level. I saw EE with just 6k lately and a player like RTZ was saying EE is his idol even when he was already 8k
You do know that mmr is just a number right ? Yeah Miracle has 9k mmr but if we remove that 9k mmr will he be noob ? no right ? so that technically means if you have 9k mmr but you're noob then you're still noob , doesn't matter how big or small your mmr is , it depends how good you are in both solo and team gameplays
The thing that I have observed is that both are pros at Invoker and both have a aggressive mindset when playing with Invoker. Sumiya relies more on the combos whereas Miracle is just miracle.
miracle plays invoker in a ver technical way, that will make you say to yourself that it must how it be done.. but sumiya plays invoker in a way that is almost like a killing machine
People don't understand that doing the same combo you see on low lvl plays all the time on higher mmr is hard to do because you are also playing against very experienced players. Also, I noticed that SumiYa's combos looks very smooth because he has quick cast enabled
чтобы убить все сомнения чей Инвокер лучше, им нужно сыграть 1 на 1 как полагается. Сумия хорош, нет слов уровень игры и опыт за Инвокера на высоте за 8000 тысяч игр. Несмотря на это Миракл показывает божественную игру как и за Инвокера так и за множество других героев. И не стоит забывать о том что он показывает свой уровень игры не только в простых катках на большом рейтинге, но и на про сцене
i can notice many different things from them such as 1:25 if that was sumiya she would already sunstrike (or it's on CD i don't know) but pro like miracle wouldn't have missed that
For anyone who says miracle is 9k but sumiya is 6k, the more you play the more experienced you will be. Miracle would beat sumiya easily with a different hero, but sumiya has more than 7k games just with invoker so he is way better with invoker.
Trust me. I have 5k mmr but as what I can see. Miracle has more exp in pro scene compare to Sumiya but in contrast on the exp on the hero itself. I would really give it to Sumiya. I'm always watching both players but I'm sorry to tell Sumiya's invoker is way too far from Miracle. You should see his Anti-carry combo for void, anti-mage and etc.
At least one of miracles games in the video an unranked party game where the players are ~4.5k average, idk how you can say miracles enemies are harder lmao.
its obviously Miracle is pro than Sumiya ,just seeing the skill used by different ,although invoker is a hero was needed to understand whole the condition ,and miracle done it better
damn gOod How to kill an antimage : Sumiya--> Tornado+PEM+Meteor+coldsnap+eul+sunstrike+Blast. ✔ -Miracle--> Tornado+Pem+meteor+Blast. ✖ ez blink for am. then Sumiya is the best. :)
Benjamin Orosco give it a break dude! not even close! sumiya is a rising star but miracle, come on man he is one of the best invoker i had ever seen, including grim and vurtune!
Сумия по-моему лучше, кто-то говорил про него что чувство пространства и ренджи у него лучше, так вот-ГОРАЗДО лучше чем у миракла хотя как по мне оба хороши, ход мыслей и идеи те же просто у сумии опыт больше а так расчитывать ренджу скиллов и чувствовать героя - это все приходит с опытом :)
Difference between the two... Miracle = can bait, can survive massive ganks, can conserve mana & cooldowns, higher IQ, good positioning, intermixable combos(not same combos over and over again)wide variety of heroes, fast farm, excellent map awareness, much more! Sumiya = cant bait, quick casts, bad mana & cooldowns conservation, accurate, low survivability, average IQ and map awareness, same combos over and over again, Only one hero, slow farm, uses too much mana and focuses only a single enemy most of the time, bad positioning, cant initiate alone usually, slower crowd wiping ability compared to Miracle. "Low dick chinese, inferior eyes, lel.."
MMR isn't the point here. It's about how they understand this hero. Yes there are differences between 9k n 6k games but the skill they both have are the same no matter in what level of the game. There are lots of 8k-9k players in the scene but I doubt most of them can use invoker as sumiya does. Sumiya understand this hero way better than most of the pro players because he play this hero most of the time. You can say he's not as good as a pro player because of his hero pool or understanding of the game but you can't say he's invoker is not as good because his MMR.
SUMIYA: BEST INVOKER
Miracle-: BEST PLAYER
Yeah your right beacause "Miracle" is a Miracle
miracle best player bets invoker !
"EPIC INVOKER BATTLE"
thought it was 1 on 1 invoker
what a clickbait
had to scroll down way too far for this...
w33 is still the best .
God of invoker
TAT zZz nope. sorry was god but he sucks now. pub doesnt count. look at tournament. miracle win and kick ass with invo not even a fan btw
I thought it was pretty obvious its not an 1v1 :p Well the very first time I saw the title I thought that for like 1 second...
Everything is good as long as it isnt the 1v1. Thats always boring.
dont understand how can you compare 9k to 6k..doesn't matter how skilled Sumiya is,Miracle still has huge advantage,as he has the better understanding of the game.P.S Miracle has way stronger opponents
Madder Sky your right bro
Madder Sky stong opponent? I see lot miracle fight 4k dude.
madder sky you right, miracle move with best feeling, pro and pub you can't compare this!
nah not true I think 6k up is already as they say pro level. I saw EE with just 6k lately and a player like RTZ was saying EE is his idol even when he was already 8k
You do know that mmr is just a number right ? Yeah Miracle has 9k mmr but if we remove that 9k mmr will he be noob ? no right ? so that technically means if you have 9k mmr but you're noob then you're still noob , doesn't matter how big or small your mmr is , it depends how good you are in both solo and team gameplays
The thing that I have observed is that both are pros at Invoker and both have a aggressive mindset when playing with Invoker. Sumiya relies more on the combos whereas Miracle is just miracle.
The song ruined it. Singing the same sentence OVER AND OVER AND FUCKING OVER AGAIN
That Song . cancer . reported
WE ARE HEROS THO
I didn't point that out :D
It sounds like one of those songs a twitch streamer would have quietly playing in the background.
SUMIYA 👍
song ???
Janji ft. Johnning - Heroes Tonight (Lyrics)
he'll get copyrighted for not giving NCS link and name of the song, this video may die soon
+Minux maybe
Darude - Sandstorm
Some cancerous ugly song not worth mentioning.
Miracle ofc=)
Could you tell me what the name of the song is? please
miracle plays invoker in a ver technical way, that will make you say to yourself that it must how it be done.. but sumiya plays invoker in a way that is almost like a killing machine
What music on 3.54
ofcourse miracle
what is the song?
I stop playing dota 2 4 yrs already but still watching miraclee❤
People don't understand that doing the same combo you see on low lvl plays all the time on higher mmr is hard to do because you are also playing against very experienced players.
Also, I noticed that SumiYa's combos looks very smooth because he has quick cast enabled
Kawaii Potato well said! can't compare 9k to 6k beside using quick cast which is why he is fking smooth
Kawaii Potato well said! can't compare 9k to 6k beside using quick cast which is why he is fking smooth
Please tell me how the track is called, if you can then just all two!
what music name 20 sec?
пожалуйста люди подскажите как трек называется, если можно то сразу все два!!!
Both are good in playing invoker. But the best overall is miracle.
i'm okay with sumiya is god of invo, but miracle is angel, relate to dragon ball super hahaha
чтобы убить все сомнения чей Инвокер лучше, им нужно сыграть 1 на 1 как полагается. Сумия хорош, нет слов уровень игры и опыт за Инвокера на высоте за 8000 тысяч игр. Несмотря на это Миракл показывает божественную игру как и за Инвокера так и за множество других героев. И не стоит забывать о том что он показывает свой уровень игры не только в простых катках на большом рейтинге, но и на про сцене
tittle of the song background music plz
I feel like miracle is more team based invoker player and sumiya is like solo invoker with good supports ..
facts
11:57 best healing ward micro
No highlight from OG vs TNC?
song please
Definitly Sumiya, he just knows much more about the hero, his combos are also way more advanced
TheMehkey at the end of the day. pub dont matter. it tournament skill is legit
NICE NEGLISH
TheMehkey yes, i think everbody can see the difference in their combos, but sumiya is more pro, idiots miraclelover's
learn English before you talk son.
your English so bad idiot
Kevin Ramadhan same to you
What a song at the end??
We miss miracle😢❤
dat double sunstrike...
song name ?
both pro 😍👏💜😙
Vurtune the best!))
Евгений Жаренов now no :(
Евгений Жаренов wtf vurtune is 4k bruhh
7:57 Sunstrike work in BKB?? or just a bug?
LG 2ragso sunstrike has a pure damage
i can notice many different things from them such as 1:25 if that was sumiya she would already sunstrike (or it's on CD i don't know) but pro like miracle wouldn't have missed that
What is music?
comparing a top pro player to a pub is like comparing a lion to a kitten
Both are expert at voker
But maaan.. that 6:43
That double sun strike from Sumiya lol .. Best voker in dota 2 for sure yeah ..
you must be 400 mmr
что за музыка на 3.54
Miracle- is better
Dota 2 already declared miracle the real invoker
and the real Dark Moon
comment section filled with 1k MMRs who are new to invoker and think Sumiya > miracle xD Kappa
your mom is 1k too :D
i think u still brreastfeeds from your mum
Miracle arguably is the most versatile invoker player in the pro leagues
Miracle againts Pros.....
While sumiya againts RANDOM PUBS......
Put sumiya in Pro scene.....he will just be an average invoker gamer...
an jo that's right
For anyone who says miracle is 9k but sumiya is 6k, the more you play the more experienced you will be. Miracle would beat sumiya easily with a different hero, but sumiya has more than 7k games just with invoker so he is way better with invoker.
Trust me. I have 5k mmr but as what I can see. Miracle has more exp in pro scene compare to Sumiya but in contrast on the exp on the hero itself. I would really give it to Sumiya. I'm always watching both players but I'm sorry to tell Sumiya's invoker is way too far from Miracle. You should see his Anti-carry combo for void, anti-mage and etc.
bring him to the pro scene, he will struggle lel
Love Miracle, but you got to give it to Sumiya
маими
кл
good music man
gg wp
VS? OMG I'M TROLLED
=
music name?
Хуесосов На изичах heroes tonight
Respect Sumiya. He never tornado to KS for the kill but Miracle 100% does that
It's not KS if you are core lmao
Subscribed
как песня называется ?;)
both are pro but M-'s enemy is harder than Sumiya's enemy. M's enemy have skills better,
Tuấn Tăng yeah because miracle's is 9k!
I agree miracle- is way better but that combo is actually easier to execute than it seems.
Nah Miracle- plays party with 4k friend. And his party mmr is 6k
So do it! Actions speak louder than words
At least one of miracles games in the video an unranked party game where the players are ~4.5k average, idk how you can say miracles enemies are harder lmao.
that song is good, but repeat it a lot of times is just ugh
Best Miracle Invoker
miracle God
Very amazing!
what is music
----?'
💪 Awesome
Miracle is way better :)
I noticed that Sumiya uses QUICKCAST...Miracle uses classic cast.
Nice im also using quickcast
both are legend of invoke😊
both are pro but sumiya is next level
Did you see what Millacle was doing from 1:30??? Sumiya is still like 10 levels behind Millacle bud... definitively not next level :"D
Benjamin Orosco not even close dude...miracle is too pro for sumiya
its obviously Miracle is pro than Sumiya ,just seeing the skill used by different ,although invoker is a hero was needed to understand whole the condition ,and miracle done it better
damn gOod How to kill an antimage : Sumiya--> Tornado+PEM+Meteor+coldsnap+eul+sunstrike+Blast. ✔
-Miracle--> Tornado+Pem+meteor+Blast. ✖ ez blink for am. then Sumiya is the best. :)
Benjamin Orosco
give it a break dude! not even close! sumiya is a rising star but
miracle, come on man he is one of the best invoker i had ever seen,
including grim and vurtune!
I wonder where is Sumiya now, ive been watching his invoker when i was still playing 3 yrs ago
Сумия по-моему лучше, кто-то говорил про него что чувство пространства и ренджи у него лучше, так вот-ГОРАЗДО лучше чем у миракла хотя как по мне оба хороши, ход мыслей и идеи те же просто у сумии опыт больше а так расчитывать ренджу скиллов и чувствовать героя - это все приходит с опытом :)
Are they start with 25lvl or what?
😱😱 is so good gamer
miracle better than sumiya
No sumiya is.... Im a both fan but i can tell that sumiya is better..👍
Sumiya took invoker to another new level compare to miracle, the combination with tornado and sunstrike perfectly calculated
WTF so fast hand i like it :)
songsong(singsing) too is pretty good!!1
TIO ZATU MI PASTOR :D MEJOR MEPPO PERUANO
Have Miracle and Sumiya ever fought in a 1 vs 1 both using invoker before?
Miracle- best combo👌
Holyshit their hand so fucking fast.. Applause..
that double sunstrike by sumiya . pehpeh
1:10 hook
ya pasaron 5 años desde que subió este video
Sumiya
they both r just great!
2 months but no one mentions Epic Rap Battles of History similarity. BibleThump
Difference between the two...
Miracle = can bait, can survive massive ganks, can conserve mana & cooldowns, higher IQ, good positioning, intermixable
combos(not same combos over and over again)wide variety of heroes, fast farm, excellent map awareness, much
more!
Sumiya = cant bait, quick casts, bad mana & cooldowns conservation, accurate, low survivability, average IQ and map
awareness, same combos over and over again, Only one hero, slow farm, uses too much mana and focuses only
a single enemy most of the time, bad positioning, cant initiate alone usually, slower crowd wiping ability
compared to Miracle. "Low dick chinese, inferior eyes, lel.."
Yoly Asumen racist shit
1:08 WTF IS MIRACLE DOING
Just sumiya😍😍
Sumiya just play in pub, but miracle's also play in Tournament.
MMR isn't the point here. It's about how they understand this hero. Yes there are differences between 9k n 6k games but the skill they both have are the same no matter in what level of the game. There are lots of 8k-9k players in the scene but I doubt most of them can use invoker as sumiya does. Sumiya understand this hero way better than most of the pro players because he play this hero most of the time. You can say he's not as good as a pro player because of his hero pool or understanding of the game but you can't say he's invoker is not as good because his MMR.
nic song
kare.badra
ll
6:30 match ID?
Sumiya!!!🙋🙋 perfect at all way.
Miracle said before his invoker skills is learn from Sumiya.
Vice versa
well played
390 1k-5k noobs amateurs players who dosnr know how much u need to get this lvl w voker
Damn that was epic!!!
*WHAT?!***7:33** BLACK KING BAR... OMG*
Andrew Markin to avoid damage from blade mail...
Jesen Yeoko even if u activate bkb u cab still be affected by bm
but magic damage is not reflected when bkb is on just check and than say bro
Magic damage IS reflected bro.
no its does not check it than say
сейчас бы сравнить игрока который играет на пабах с 5700+ ммр, с Мираклом который играет на турнирах с 9000+ ммр
Глаза у инвокера с этими волосами как у Оротимару из Наруто
Cool game na ivoker
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