while Sumiya appreciates Miracle’s skills, noobfans were fighting which one is better purely base on their love and hatred. Sumiya is successful bcos he has openmind, hes humble and most likely hes willing to learn. i had never liked Sumiya until this vid.
Really though, considering how fans used Miracle's professional status against Sumiya... That just shows how much they will idolise players to the point others are deemed irrelevant, despite the fact that they can learn much more from players who excel at one hero like Sumi's Invo and Attacker's Kunkka
It's like Connor Mcgregor and Floyd Mayweather. Connor does MMA which involves stand up (hands and feet) and ground game (bjj, wrestling etc.). Floyd Mayweather is a defensive boxer, so stand up with hands only. He is better at boxing because he that is all he does. If Connor and Floyd fought with UFC rules, Floyd would be gone in under 5 minutes. So Sumiya is like Mayweather specialising in Invoker. Whilst Miracle has to play to the meta and work as part of a professional team and travel and compete etc, managing stress/team mates. So whilst Sumiya is better at Invoker then Miracle, he is not a better player overall as he is a specialist like Floyd. Different worlds mate.
Learning new things by watching Master Sumiya learn from master Miracle- while sharing insight about master Topson. Today's a good day to be an invoker player
U fcking injoker pickers. Cant understand that to be able to play that hero you need high fcking skill. The skill cap is very high . Play it at 4k above but below all are shit
Your'e very humble and open minded you appreciate other players' skills and you proved that there is no such thing as the Strongest Player it just depends if your willing to work hard for it Much love for "Invoker GOD"
I like how sumiya knows the essence of rankings. :v The mentality needed and the physical mechanics that are in play he knows the difference in top tier players. That's what assures me that sumiya can aim for the top. Thanks man
@@annatar125 Since you are so concerned about the "is" that you end up cussing someone who did nothing wrong to you, better yet, make sure you know how to say it properly. Go back to school kiddo!
I think he's DPSing troll. Look how delayed he throwed the tornado. I think he just miscalculated the duration of trolls ult while casted the tornado (I think he's expecting the tornado will kill troll as miracle is expecting that troll's ult will be finish). Just my opinion though.
Like iceiceice once said on stream: Sumiya might have more knowledge but players like Miracle have vastly superior mechanics and that's why he's a pro player. In this example, Miracle handled his lane the best he could but that was also due to some mistakes by the Brood player by missing free kills onto Invoker.
@madone 05 well its true actually. bcs u know u are laning against such a great player. U kinda miss those free kills. And u are saying to yourself u cant kill him bcs he is a really good player.
I speak Chinese fluently but I didn’t catch your reference. Maybe there was some translation issue. I can translate for you if you can tell me what time it was.
nerubiandude alright friend he’s not saying any server is worse than the other. He said that CN server and EU server have a different rhythm to the game.
Sumiya looks like "YiP Man" kungfu master...Humbleness is for Gods! I think, without a doubt, that he could be honored by Valve, on a set with his name. Sumiya is undoubtedly a player who promotes this game in his own way. He is beyond the professional scene. It is not about the fact that he may only play with a single hero, but rather because he has raised this dedicated preference to a level unbelievably for few mortals. To me, he represents the uniqueness and passion for his favorite hero. And that is more than enough to be worthy of respect and honor
Stronge Mage yeah well I’m not sure about that, sumiya is just a very good “invoker” ( pub ) player, however miracle’s decisions is highly appreciated due to his professional experience and his intelligent mind which makes him one of the best dota players and an international winner .
Such love and kindness I love you Sumiya even though I am a fan of Miracle.... With you showing such love made me realize that what I think of you without knowing you and what when I knew you are and that both of you are skillful players and I love you both. Keep the game on for life, supports are ready.... 😊😊
For those think miracle invoker not good..no one in pro scene has pick first invoker than miracle..why he the best in the world?..he take risk and can win tje game with other hero too..thats what make u best dota player..not only with invo
Me learning invo from sumiya that still learning from miracle. i cant direct copy miracle playstyle cus its too hard to play 😂 so need to watch how sumiya play. maybe next time can try quas wex invo
Does this Brood not lane vs voker often? He missed 3 guaranteed kill timings at level 4. I say this from being the quas wex voker vs brood often there isnt anything you can do once brood is level 4 with 6+ spiderlings and dust he can dive and have spiders live the tornado and continue pursuit under tower each still able to take 2 hits from tower as wex is only level 2
lets not forget he is playing with miracle in pubs, and you are not. There must be a reason why he didnt dive. Maybe because he was scared of a tiny or tusk rotation?
Debopam Roy no becoz he is full trash who dint use dust allowing miracle to escape he is just a typical trash player. If brood was according to his rank he would rape miracles poor invoker.
@@debopamroy56 there is no fear of rotation you dont even have to send in the brood hero just the spiderlings. Trust me I've been slaughtered by it plenty haha. The only way to have a chance as voker vs brood mid is to go 2-1-1 and have tornado and ice wall at the ready at all times. Level 4 is where brood gets kill potential and level 4 is where you can have 2 quas to have longer tornado lift and more slow on ice wall. Level 2 spiderlings require 2 tower hits after tornado at level 1 and 2 wex so you're better off having the ice wall at ready rather than 2 wex
I like Sumiya because he giving me a new knowledge from every of his videos (specifically for Invoker). Most pro player won't do this, I mean they not giving a teach for specific hero but they do this is general while pro scene was busy with their tournament. I wish to friend with him in DOTA, so I can easily download his replay every single time before I'm playing DOTA.
800 games. Core hero used to raise to 9000 mmr. Still say its less? He got smurf acc, also tournament and practice games do not record to games played by server. At least 1600 games of kael
если кратко, то сумия очень восхищается мираклом, указывает на его очень неординарное мышление, скорость принятия решений и реакцию. На мышление и видимость игры в целом. Типа того))))))))))
i like how sumiya is constantly looking to improve himself by watching others pro players play ! keep it up we love your videos . greetings from Algeria
A true master never stops learning. I respect you even more now
Very humble sumiya. A very respectful player
while Sumiya appreciates Miracle’s skills, noobfans were fighting which one is better purely base on their love and hatred. Sumiya is successful bcos he has openmind, hes humble and most likely hes willing to learn. i had never liked Sumiya until this vid.
Well said ma friend! Me too i had never liked sumiya until i watch this video
Really though, considering how fans used Miracle's professional status against Sumiya... That just shows how much they will idolise players to the point others are deemed irrelevant, despite the fact that they can learn much more from players who excel at one hero like Sumi's Invo and Attacker's Kunkka
@madone 05 We mean, not a fan. You dont have to like someone to watch their videos. Your point is?
It's like Connor Mcgregor and Floyd Mayweather. Connor does MMA which involves stand up (hands and feet) and ground game (bjj, wrestling etc.). Floyd Mayweather is a defensive boxer, so stand up with hands only. He is better at boxing because he that is all he does. If Connor and Floyd fought with UFC rules, Floyd would be gone in under 5 minutes. So Sumiya is like Mayweather specialising in Invoker. Whilst Miracle has to play to the meta and work as part of a professional team and travel and compete etc, managing stress/team mates. So whilst Sumiya is better at Invoker then Miracle, he is not a better player overall as he is a specialist like Floyd. Different worlds mate.
Successful? In pubs you mean? H's not a pro.
Humble guy sumiya, i like this dude seriously giving miracle credit when himself is also a good invo player. Keep learnimg from others
He better give miracle fucking credit... miracle is 10000x the player sumiya is...
@@mertacar5668 Miracle fanshit makes me sick
@@mertacar5668 chill
@@mertacar5668 Why the fuck u even on this channel?
@@mertacar5668 on purely spell casting and execution of combos sumiya is definitely better
Learning new things by watching Master Sumiya learn from master Miracle- while sharing insight about master Topson.
Today's a good day to be an invoker player
swetypalms stfu
Filthy peasant injoker pickers
U fcking injoker pickers. Cant understand that to be able to play that hero you need high fcking skill. The skill cap is very high . Play it at 4k above but below all are shit
and its prove you are a good man, expert and humble. gg sumiya
He is indeed a really nice guy.
@Morgan Stark he is learning you piece of shit.
What a great analysis and such nice words from Sumiya. This proves that he is also a very humble, down to earth guy. GG to both of them.
This dude is good. He respects other and stay humble. And his explanation is also great
WTF i've been watching Sumiya replays for years. Didn't realize he was such a good guy. Huge respect.
I never thought Sumiya would be that Humble
"His plays really 666"
Sumiya and Miracle, best invoker players :)
Your'e very humble and open minded you appreciate other players' skills and you proved that there is no such thing as the Strongest Player it just depends if your willing to work hard for it Much love for "Invoker GOD"
A true meaning of being humble.
@Morgan Stark lmfao shut you're pignoy as up you even got korean picture and true american name yu fucking third world country poser.
This guy can do anything with Invoker and still appreciating even small things from the video ! MVP 💖
SUMIYA is a true humble player.....Lodi.!
Sumiya #1 fan here from philippines
Very humble and respectful dota player
I like how sumiya knows the essence of rankings. :v The mentality needed and the physical mechanics that are in play he knows the difference in top tier players. That's what assures me that sumiya can aim for the top. Thanks man
Sumiya talks about miracle invoker. Miracle talks about sumiya's all other heroes. *LOL* with love
Such a humble and friendly teacher !
Best Invoker Players is MIRACLE and SUMIYA < 3
i6 one you say “are” fucking Peruvian 😟
@@annatar125 You better be learning too. You can't even construct proper English with the right capitalization and punctuation.
@@christonregiediaz3585 well tell me how to say it properly
@@annatar125 Since you are so concerned about the "is" that you end up cussing someone who did nothing wrong to you, better yet, make sure you know how to say it properly. Go back to school kiddo!
@@christonregiediaz3585hahaha wtf are you saying man, you've never answered my question
Ilovesumiya keep talking about his learning. Watching sumiya for 4 months a now
we should learn and improve... very true
Sumiya+Miracle=love
9:43.. Miracle must've not known about Troll new change (where he can't die when he is ulting)
He knows. He just doesn't realize when sk died there is blue wards already there.
He knows. He just doesn't realize that when sk dies there's already a blue warda there
I think he's DPSing troll. Look how delayed he throwed the tornado. I think he just miscalculated the duration of trolls ult while casted the tornado (I think he's expecting the tornado will kill troll as miracle is expecting that troll's ult will be finish). Just my opinion though.
A pro learned from a pro too😍
Thats nice for you,. Keep saying "chao ni ma" i like it xD
Angga Dwi Kurniawan oh man....😂
that plays deserve an commend
5:05
Don't mind me, just passing by
i just realized that sumiya is a good analyst and humble person as well
Like iceiceice once said on stream: Sumiya might have more knowledge but players like Miracle have vastly superior mechanics and that's why he's a pro player. In this example, Miracle handled his lane the best he could but that was also due to some mistakes by the Brood player by missing free kills onto Invoker.
@madone 05 well its true actually. bcs u know u are laning against such a great player. U kinda miss those free kills. And u are saying to yourself u cant kill him bcs he is a really good player.
Miracle and Sumiya the best invokers!!!
Sumiya is so humble proud of you boi
i learn many things from sumiya. 👍
sumiya said "its better in their server than china server",
It's hard to judge since their translations are often off to the intended meaning
I speak Chinese fluently but I didn’t catch your reference. Maybe there was some translation issue. I can translate for you if you can tell me what time it was.
nerubiandude alright friend he’s not saying any server is worse than the other. He said that CN server and EU server have a different rhythm to the game.
he says its is hard to replicate this in china server, since the style and mentality of teammate and enemy team is different
in china server support rotation is not so good.player win lane with own effort.
A true men never surender like sumiya 😊
Even sumiya learn from miracle. Miracle CS is too good.
He watch miracle bcz he want to know how to play quas wex vs brood,
Calm down, fanboy.
i like how he's good as a player but still striving to get better, nice man that's nice!
when my 2 idola in 1video :)
Erpan
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Sumiya looks like "YiP Man" kungfu master...Humbleness is for Gods!
I think, without a doubt, that he could be honored by Valve, on a set with his name. Sumiya is undoubtedly a player who promotes this game in his own way. He is beyond the professional scene. It is not about the fact that he may only play with a single hero, but rather because he has raised this dedicated preference to a level unbelievably for few mortals. To me, he represents the uniqueness and passion for his favorite hero. And that is more than enough to be worthy of respect and honor
master or play one single hero? nope. He played other hero too and he is scary af.
Hey man, I'm a fan from brazil! keep it up!
Waow
Welcome to the family, bro
#This is Brazil
Brazil here too, nice video! Very Humble Sumiya, indded...
SUMIYA NUMBER ONE VOKER!!
We need a miracle vs sumiya match
Omar Aljamil there is one actually if you searched for it
Ahmed Bilal i watched it actually but would be nice if the did a rematch
Sumiya will win
Stronge Mage yeah well I’m not sure about that, sumiya is just a very good “invoker” ( pub ) player, however miracle’s decisions is highly appreciated due to his professional experience and his intelligent mind which makes him one of the best dota players and an international winner .
Ahmed Bilal +
Such love and kindness I love you Sumiya even though I am a fan of Miracle.... With you showing such love made me realize that what I think of you without knowing you and what when I knew you are and that both of you are skillful players and I love you both. Keep the game on for life, supports are ready.... 😊😊
Are you ready for a Miracle?
Are you ready for a MIracle~! (Song)
midormeepo
Hope after this video game people will stop hate sumiya or miracle. What a good guy sumyia is. Amazing respect
Sumiya es humilde y muy bueno jugando con su invoker, aprende eso arteezy :v
Gaaaa
Waiting for Sumiya to get in top 100 :)
For those think miracle invoker not good..no one in pro scene has pick first invoker than miracle..why he the best in the world?..he take risk and can win tje game with other hero too..thats what make u best dota player..not only with invo
I'm pretty sure abed and topson did that too
Another vod of invoker😍
Me learning invo from sumiya that still learning from miracle. i cant direct copy miracle playstyle cus its too hard to play 😂 so need to watch how sumiya play. maybe next time can try quas wex invo
Im late but I wished one day you and miracle in same team❤❤❤
Does this Brood not lane vs voker often? He missed 3 guaranteed kill timings at level 4. I say this from being the quas wex voker vs brood often there isnt anything you can do once brood is level 4 with 6+ spiderlings and dust he can dive and have spiders live the tornado and continue pursuit under tower each still able to take 2 hits from tower as wex is only level 2
lets not forget he is playing with miracle in pubs, and you are not. There must be a reason why he didnt dive. Maybe because he was scared of a tiny or tusk rotation?
Debopam Roy no becoz he is full trash who dint use dust allowing miracle to escape he is just a typical trash player. If brood was according to his rank he would rape miracles poor invoker.
@@debopamroy56 there is no fear of rotation you dont even have to send in the brood hero just the spiderlings. Trust me I've been slaughtered by it plenty haha. The only way to have a chance as voker vs brood mid is to go 2-1-1 and have tornado and ice wall at the ready at all times. Level 4 is where brood gets kill potential and level 4 is where you can have 2 quas to have longer tornado lift and more slow on ice wall. Level 2 spiderlings require 2 tower hits after tornado at level 1 and 2 wex so you're better off having the ice wall at ready rather than 2 wex
Im pretty sure hes just lucky got rotate from support and brood is trash shit.
there a different between you and miracle. Miracle in top pro scene and your not. Back to reality pls , i know it harsh
I like Sumiya because he giving me a new knowledge from every of his videos (specifically for Invoker). Most pro player won't do this, I mean they not giving a teach for specific hero but they do this is general while pro scene was busy with their tournament. I wish to friend with him in DOTA, so I can easily download his replay every single time before I'm playing DOTA.
800 games. Core hero used to raise to 9000 mmr. Still say its less? He got smurf acc, also tournament and practice games do not record to games played by server. At least 1600 games of kael
Sumiya played 10k games of invoker. From his point of view, 1.6k game is still less.
@@larrychoo4871 its not the amount of games. Its the rank difference
@@BB8enjoyer what u know about rank??
sumiya said his kael play is almost 8000++ games
www.dotabuff.com/players/160344678/matches?hero=invoker
Very Very Respectful Sumiya Were So proud of you
ктооо сделает перевод на русский?? Я НЕ ПОНИМАЮ
faking russian
Ahahaha
если кратко, то сумия очень восхищается мираклом, указывает на его очень неординарное мышление, скорость принятия решений и реакцию. На мышление и видимость игры в целом. Типа того))))))))))
This guy is very intelligent, not just as player, but look at this analysis, observation and comments. Such a smart guy.
Miracle is really amazing and you too sumiya!
Bro i honestly think your combo is much more fun to watch, i like also miracle because he's so chill with a swag.
Invoker is a complex hero that can be a game changer for the team, there is no end for learning invo
1 of the most underrated invo player... lets give it up to.... ser SUMIYA!!!!! Ti teams should recruit sir sumiya.... like if you want this to happen
I started Playing Invoker after watching Sumiya.Really
nice a humble guy like you should be on the international,my inspiration
SUMIYA THE MAN your the best.
how can anyone not respect this awesome player ,he is really good invoker yet he respect other styles
The best invoker in the world os so humble
A very humble player sumiya💖
I didn't know about that blocking creep method until I watched this video. Tnx men😉
i like how sumiya is constantly looking to improve himself by watching others pro players play ! keep it up we love your videos .
greetings from Algeria
Sumiya is my invoker role model.
You should do this often....
Feels really good to see u acknowledging another player and commenting on his Style.
Damn that invoker hehehe The best !
sumiya is a good man and humble
nice analysis,what a humble guy.
miss those old days n old dota😢
Как бы я был счастлив понимать что говорит суммия, или перевод! Единственный человек которого смотрю и не понимаю) Здоровья тебе суммия.
Sumiya u r the 1 of my favorite invoker player i learn from you thanks keep posting a video goodluck :)
a humble player is ❤️❤️ keep it up 👌
One invoker God is watching other M GOD INVOKER DAM NICE VIDEO
MIRACLE is like a sumarai without a master..... And soon sumiya wil be the next God of invoker..... Greetings from INDIA
Pro Gameplay + Pro Analysis in this video
Wish to see Miracle analyzes Sumiya Invo if possible
sumiya is the top 1 for sure :))
He is truly a humble guy.
Ty for the subtitles!
You are welcome
Sumiya one of the best' invoker player for me your so nice guy your my idol 😊😊
no matter how many i rewatch it,it always getting interesting,,,
Nc sumiya analyzing the invo of miracle to learn his techniques
You both are awesome...
very humble guy, hats off to you brother!
that's lesson learn for sumiya from miracle. keep it up sumiya :)
Wish sumiya meets miracle in pub when he comes to china xD
Watching From Phillipines !
While sumiya appreciates miracle’s laning phase, sumiya definitely beats miracle in fights.
I also love how humble he is.
sumiya you're an idol, i learn invoker from u
All of Sumiya stream i watched Because i learned how to use Because of Sumiya invo I can say that You are a amazing Invo
This is what we want detailed commentary of sumiya. We can learn alot from sumiya. Telling the techniques of pro players. G
The legends of invoker yeah miracle
Miracle is invo god for me👍
Imspirational as always.